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The Ultimate ZERO Discard Method for Maintaining Your Sourdough Starter Ep. 3 

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In this third beginner's episode, I'll show you how to transition your starter to the ultimate zero discard method.
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@coffeebot3000
@coffeebot3000 2 месяца назад
I've been doing this for a while now. I don't eat a lot of bread, so baking a loaf plus trying to think of something to do with the discard was a bit too much for me. We also save money on flour with this method. You illustrated it perfectly.
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
Hey bud, it's absolute perfect if you don't bake all of the time. Feeding a starter daily works but it can place unnecessary pressure on you to bake.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 2 месяца назад
I've done it that way for many years. Works well. I forgot about a jar in the fridge. It had been there unfed for well over a year and popped back to an active state in 2 days.
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
It's a great way to keep things simple. And yes, it can last an extremely long time.
@brelsfordfamilyhomestead
@brelsfordfamilyhomestead 2 месяца назад
I’m so glad I discovered the scrapings method (via Bake with Jake) very early in my sourdough journey. It makes it such a simple process and zero overwhelm.
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
Me too!!
@adamrickman2461
@adamrickman2461 2 месяца назад
I do zero discard and keep about 20g for the next feed. 100g levain so I feed it 50g/50g of flour and water to get me that 120g. Use 100g for the dough and 20 for the next time. After leaving it for a few weeks in the fridge, my starter didn't really rise like it had before. I discarded the levain to bring it back to 20g and gave it another feeding and it bounced right back the way it used to, it just took longer than I was expecting. So if anyone is in the same boat with lack of rise, just give it 24 hours, discard and give it a large ratio feeding. You might do the same 24 hour wait, or it might be ready to go.
@carolmelancon
@carolmelancon 2 месяца назад
I'm very glad to see you give Jack credit. I learned this method from his channel.
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
He's awesome :)
@ellengrace4609
@ellengrace4609 2 месяца назад
Thank you! I’ve been using this method since I saw it on your channel and it completely simplifies the process. ❤
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
Awesome! I'm pleased you found it useful, I love it!
@vanalaphachuasritrakul5593
@vanalaphachuasritrakul5593 Месяц назад
I have been experimenting after I watched your earlier video about just keeping a small amount of the starter in the fridge for later. It worked really well. 😊 What I did yesterday was I fed my starter small flour twice or a day beforehand. I then just used all the discard to bake. The loaf turned out quite well with very nice flavour. Thank you! I look forward to seeing your next video!
@1947wdx
@1947wdx 2 месяца назад
There are some key points that were brought up in the video for this to work. 1) Your starter MUST be strong before you put it in the fridge. No matter what method, scrapings or discard, you use. If it's weak going into the fridge, the cold will almost kill it.) 2) Your starter WILL become weak over time unless you are baking nearly every day. When this happens, you need to spend several days feeding and rejuvenating the starter. (Which reduces the "no discard" concept.) I've tried sourdough several times, but it's just too much hassle. Yes it tastes great, but spending three days every time I want to make bread to get my starter back to strength, then another another two days making one or two loaves of bread is just too much.
@JReuland
@JReuland 2 месяца назад
This is THE ONLY place where you will know the exact conditions under which this dough is made! Room temperatures, protein content of flours etc etc! When you are extending the dough on your working table, do you spray water on the table before? Thank you.
@chopsddy3
@chopsddy3 2 месяца назад
After running into you and Jack, I never have discard unless I want some for a flavor enhancer. Looking forward to the next vid.👍
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
It’s a game changer. I hope all’s been well with you buddy 👌
@chrisdeangelis4616
@chrisdeangelis4616 2 месяца назад
Nice! This is how I do mine based on your rec and works great! I'm moving overseas to Japan so started drying my starter to bring with!
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
Hey Chris. There’s a vid on the channel on dehydrating a starter. Becky, one of our Sourdough Unchained member flew out to Japan from Canada and took a tiny offshoot of her starter with her (fed before flying and kept in the checked luggage) and it was ready to go when she got there. Just something to consider. Maybe you could take both. Exciting times ahead! I hope the move goes well, keep me posted 👍
@chrisdeangelis4616
@chrisdeangelis4616 2 месяца назад
@@CulinaryExploration thanks! Found a place with an oven so I can continue my journey! Not really common in Japan. It's only 36x40x26cm but found a steel that will fit and it should clear my bowl I use 🙏🏻
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
@@chrisdeangelis4616 A couple of our members use the same ovens (in Japan) and use a little moka pot as a steam vessel. That way they avoid needing to use a cover for their dough. It might be worth considering. I've got a video covering this method - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qukV9kyYCu8.html
@kerrynseymour2383
@kerrynseymour2383 2 месяца назад
Going to turn this up a notch with my gluten free starter... Wish me luck 🍞
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
Very interesting! Will you keep me posted and let me know how it goes?
@EdoHannema-Watercolour-Art
@EdoHannema-Watercolour-Art 2 месяца назад
works great, I do this for years. Indeed due Jack's method.
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
I remember watching his vid and thinking wondering how well it could work. I’ve never looked back!
@EdoHannema-Watercolour-Art
@EdoHannema-Watercolour-Art 2 месяца назад
@@CulinaryExploration Well, there are a few channels about sourdough I like to watch. But not a lot. Your channel I always watch! And Jack's
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
@@EdoHannema-Watercolour-Art That's great to hear. Jacks channel is one of the only ones I watch, he's a great baker and super nice guy
@EdoHannema-Watercolour-Art
@EdoHannema-Watercolour-Art 2 месяца назад
@@CulinaryExploration His sourdough movie made me start. I said to my wife, I want to make that! And from loaf one it was a success. Apart from a few loafs I followed a few Danish recipes in the beginning. Or they use other Flour, or they just give wrong recipes. I made a Rye bread ones, I used the same tin he did, but I could not even fit the amount of dough he said, into it. Ah well, by mistakes you become better. It is like my watercolours. wWithout failures, no progress. Have a good Sunday!
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
@@EdoHannema-Watercolour-Art Nothing we attempt to improve is without its failures; a loaf is rarely inedible. Most of the time they taste great no matter how they look :)
@neilbelcher
@neilbelcher 2 месяца назад
Hi Phillip. Great baking. Great ideas and information. Would really like a light weight cloche. Can’t find one. Can you help? Keep up the good work.
@tasosziavras4836
@tasosziavras4836 2 месяца назад
Hey great video! you've really helped me up my sourdough game. I was wondering what kind of flour are you using, meaning the brand. Is Koula flour suitable for a recipe or do I need to find a higher quality flour?
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
Hey Taso, I have used Koula (white AP flour) with good results. It is a soft flour so you'll need to keep the hydration down to around 60-65%. But it does take bit of experience when using such soft flour. If you are just starting out I'd suggest using Robin Hood AP as it's got a 13.2% protein content and creates a super manageable dough. I know it's quite expensive but if you have the budget it works well. Failing that, you could try a Tsoureki flour. Keep me posted on which you decide to try.
@kuhinjica86
@kuhinjica86 2 месяца назад
❤Very good,very nice
@chiangui24
@chiangui24 2 месяца назад
Didn't you upload this last week? I was waiting for the second part.
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
Nope, the last video was baking the first loaf on day 14. This video is day 28 and showing how I switch to a maintenance free program for maintaining it 👍
@yassine1491
@yassine1491 2 месяца назад
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@turtlemark2
@turtlemark2 2 месяца назад
I would like to see more 100% FMF OPEN CRUMB loaf...
@codenamepyro2350
@codenamepyro2350 2 месяца назад
I've been feeding my starter (whole wheat flour) daily (1:4:4), and it does double in 24 hours but at 71F (21.6C). Is this good to bake with? If so, what recipe would you recommend; and if not, what should I do?
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
How long have you been feeding it? it's good to remember that just because the starter doubles it doesn't mean that it's super strong. I suggest feeding a starter for 14 days after the first proper fermentation, and then trying the first bake. Why? Because it makes sure that the starter is strong enough to raise a loaf without ending in unnecessary early disappointment. Even at 14 days you should adjust your expectations a little. The culture is still super young. I'd suggest feeding your starter for 28 days before switching to the zero discard method. Here's a link to my previous video on how to bake your first loaf - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t0t0aD09pLY.html
@andytunnah7650
@andytunnah7650 2 месяца назад
Ello mate, still following along (my starter is on day 12, bubbles nicely and is back to being a liquid in the morning. Smells fine too, which is giving me some other thoughts I'll add at the end. I'm in no rush, should I just wait until day 21 before doing first loaf ? I don't care about discard for now, this is all new and that's a system I don't wanna add on top to complicate things. But as sourdough starter goes, because mine smells like my normal starters (poolish typically, sometimes biga) I'm wondering if it's ready to start The other thought I mentioned - I've been vocal on my loathing for sourdough - the combo of my very strong sense of smell (the bane of my life tbh) and the sourdough I tried being absolutely disgusting. But it was off the shelf warbartons attempt at it, only time I tried it. Maybe their sourdough was just a bit shite ? Sorry, the tl:dr is - if I made bread with the starter I have now, will that give me a bread I'm more used to - yeasted bread ? Or is it a case of, it'll just be bread with complex flavours. Should I make an early bread and try to "break myself in" to sourdough as a concept ? What I'm stuck on most is your bit where you mix your stuff and leave to lyse, then basically knead for 3mins and have a ball that you could shape and be happy with In my endevours at that point it's always something that, unless 60% water, won't hold shape, is sticky, and is a nightmare to work with. And kneading requiring 10mins or so. That's why I wanna try sourdough too, it seems the sourdough starter adds a ton of gluten infused stuff right at the beginning and this will help me with a bread I won't need to knead or mess with (broken back, standing up and messing around as little as possible is key, and kneading is something that is a genuine nightmare. Even slap and fold causes me great pain) Sorry for long post again, even my tl:dr is 3 paragraphs!
@grammacreepy9324
@grammacreepy9324 2 месяца назад
I also have back problems and arthritis in my hands. I use a method called stretch and fold, or sometimes I do coil folds. Both are done in the bowl with wet hands instead of on a counter with flour. I was amazed at how well the dough transforms. There are several RU-vid channels about sourdough with explanations of these methods, but @bakewithjack is where I learned them. He's funny too, so that's a bonus. Happy baking!
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
There's only one way to find out how you'll enjoy the taste! Just bake a loaf mate. If your dough is sticky over 60% hydration I'd suggest trying a different flour. I bake sourdough with a local Greek flour that's only got 10% protein but at 65% hydration, it produces a manageable dough and a pretty decent loaf. You should be able to find some decent off the shelf flour in Tesco or Sainsbury's. If you want to get a bit adventurous you should check out Shipton mill. They've got some great flour. The rest between mixing and light kneading, reduces the amount of hands on time drastically and this should be a bonus for your back. You can make great 'no-knead' sourdough and you barely need to handle the dough. That may be worth trying.
@andytunnah7650
@andytunnah7650 2 месяца назад
@@CulinaryExploration Oh I'm a flour snob mate. Proper fussy over it haha. I typically use Marriages strong (13%) or very strong (15%) but not used that in a while), however the other day I found some matthew cotswold in tesco, their premium white, and it's a bangin' flour. Made a delicious loaf. I typically don't drop below 13% but I'll get the strong Allinson's (12%) sometimes as the big bags are on offer. Shipton mill I think I had a look at, you have to order direct from em right ? I'll keep them in mind when I'm a bit more flush, as I'm poor as hell atm ha
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
@@andytunnah7650 Yep, you can order from Shipton Mill, I'm not sure if they are in stock at any SM's
@lisaairey6010
@lisaairey6010 Месяц назад
I'm lost. I have my starter. I want to make a loaf of bread. Instructions please
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 2 месяца назад
Isn’t this just a polish plus sourdough starter?
@CulinaryExploration
@CulinaryExploration 2 месяца назад
Hey there, nope, a poolish is fuelled with commercial yeast. A sourdough starter is fuelled with a natural fermentation of flour and water (no commercial yeast). The process is similar but not the same. And the flavour profiles are worlds apart. Hope this helps.
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