@@meteo1056 I game a lot, and my right arm is JACKED, I can see my veins more than on my left in some cases. It's probably not just the gaming, if ya know what I mean
damn, I've been using the G305 for a while with a lithium AAA battery with AA adapter after switching from the G102 and i absolutely love it. thanks for bringing to light this 3D printed file!
@@nsevaljevic Has the same shell as the G102 so you'd love the shape if you love the G102. Has Logitech's current best sensor (HERO). Uses a AA sized battery and comes with an Alkaline one which together makes it 97g - my advice is to use a AAA sized Lithium battery with a AAA-to-AA plastic adapter like shown in the video, that would bring the weight of the G305 down to 85g (the same weight as the G102). Has no RGB lighting (to reduce cost, weight, battery consumption), unlike the G102. All in all, a perfect upgrade if you love the G102 AND intend to switch to wireless. Otherwise, the G102 is good enough despite having different sensors.
I've been using the G305 with rechargeable NiMH AAA batteries, and it lasts over 2 weeks before the battery dies and needs a charged one put in. Rotating 2 batteries and switching it "every once in a while before an important game" works without any problems. I'm also using a crumpled up "cylinder" of aluminum foil for the adapter. Lightest and cheapest solution.
His CS mechanics tell me that he doesn't play that game very much or even at all. This is an obvious 'get views quick' video from the hype train that is PC gaming peripherals and light weight mice at the moment. Don't be fooled.
I've used my Corsair M65 Gen 2 ever since my Gen 1 gave up the ghost and never really thought about the weight of the mouse as it's what I've been comfortable with. I've since removed the weights from the bottom and it took a little getting used to but I DEFINITELY notice a positive difference. Thanks for the informative video!
As a person who has a G305 with a 3D printed honeycomb battery cover and a Lithium AAA with tinfoil and who was hoping to see some representation of the G305 modding world on a channel as big as LTT...yes, I'm here after the disappointing Linus Tech Tips video, though not because of that video, seeing as I did watch that yesterday, and I watched this video a day later. With that said, I can't believe they stretched out switching out a fucking battery to 8 minutes of video, especially when the G305, due to the structure of its PCB and everything, has opened up such an amazing world of modding. I already have some other 3D printed parts coming in for my G305 in a day or two (hopefully before the weekend), and it's been fascinating watching people experiment with the G305, both putting its PCB into almost any mouse out there and creating wireless mice with pretty much ANY mice, and all the various 3D printed modifications people have designed for it, including honeycomb designs for weight reduction, and all the various flat sided and "grip enhanced" bottom shells. I think this video could've touched a bit more on the various different 3D print designs out there, since he already brought up 3D printing, but overall, this was waaaay better than the LTT video.
I've been fine with heavier mice, but the caveat is that I have to use a hard pad with good glide. I sometimes replace/augment the feet to something with less friction as well. Soft pads have been becoming more popular lately and I think that is directly linked to lighter mice which would better on those than heavier mice as soft pads usually have more friction.
Single A3 battery lasted around 3.5-4 months on my G305 at 1000hz report rate. I am very-very impressed by the wireless quality / efficiency of this mouse, much better than charged mouses that need to be charged every 2 days, this is basically plug and forget.
Just got a pack of AAA-to-AA adapters from Amazon and a Panasonic Eneloop Pro(GREAT rechargeables, arguably the best on the market per various tests) AAA 4-pack to throw in my [PIG] G602 - EVERYONE needs to do this for their AA mice, the weight difference is actually rather surprising! I mean, there isn't a huge difference between the weight of AAs and AAAs+adapters, but it was much more noticeable than I was expecting. In fact, I would even argue that, the heavier the wireless mouse, the more significant this will be. Although it won't reduce as much weight as a lighter mouse by percentage, it's certainly more meaningful to reduce weight in a heavy mouse than in one that is already pretty light weight. 10/10 mod - will be doing this to ALL future wireless mice
Me 2 mate, was about to preorder it, but since I dont really care about weight and it im used to heavy mice, I ended up buying the ec1b off of ebay for the same or less money than it would've cost me to ship the model 0 to Greece
At the moment I am using the g403 wirless and I love the shape but it's too heavy. I was thinking of the G305 as a replacement. Thanks for saving me time and money! :D
The G305 is a great mouse but my only complaint is the weight distribution. The battery in the back of the mouse really shifts the center of gravity back compared to the G Pro Wireless
Can confirm - I used to use the g403 wireless and while I liked it, it was too heavy. I've been using the g305 with a AAA battery now for about a year and, unless I decide to splurge and get the Pro, I can't imagine ever using a different mouse.
@Battz Sure man, here: postimg.cc/gallery/23aojnjs4/ Didn't have time to mod it below 60g, but I will soon I used the following files for the 3d print: pinshape.com/items/51265-3d-printed-g305-ultralight-project-donation You could also print the batterycover, but with my fingertip grip I don't need it, so yeah
Excellent review! I own and use the G305, G Pro Wired, and MM710. I've got small hands so these mice are ideal. Everything you said is 100% accurate. If I may add, for people concerned about weight/lift-off for swiping and flick-shotting in FPS, definitely go with the lightest high quality mouse for your hand. Going from 97g to say 50ish grams does make a difference! GLHF
Don't buy unnecessary AAA to AA converter (or indeed the foil) in the G305! Save yourself some money by doing this: 1. Find an old clicky ballpoint pen. 2. Open it up and get the spring out. 3. Hook and twist the cut spring on to the annode spring inside the G305 (That's the battery spring nearest to the mousewheel). 4. Twist until secure, making sure the new spring is alligned with the battery shaft and doesn't diverge at an angle. 5a. Try to put in your AAA battery. If the new spring buckles, go to 5b, if it's fine go to 6. 5b. Snip it with wire snips or pliers (or scissors, but be prepared to damage them!) to a better length and repeat 5a. 6. pwn some scrubz. I've found that there has been no disconnections on slamming the mouse, as long as there is adeqate compression in the new spring. TL;DR use a pen spring for a AAA battery mod.
i had a g903 for around 2 years and it recently broke (switches double clicking etc), its now in the box waiting for the day i can be bothered to buy a switch and get it soldered in, as a result i purchased a g305 to get me by and to try something a little more basic and its been great, the weight is excellent and wireless performance is easily on par with the g903. logitech have made wireless mice great and lead the way, even if they use bubblegum switches lol. i even like the heavier clicks, there was more than one time i clicked the g903 accidently and shot a friend in the back and that cant happen with this mouse, for this reason its a bit nicer to use with a headset where i enjoy that feedback and feeling of pressing the button. no question the premium mice feel more premium, the lighter clicks are more refined but theres certainly an upside to more tactile buttons. my biggest gripe is the side buttons, im used to them now but they are not the nicest, oh and the mouse feet could have been a bit larger to glide easier, theres ever so slightly more resistance on my matt but im still wondering if this is down to how light it is and me putting more weight on top. that 3d print looks great, i was hoping you bought it so i could go buy one too but no you went full pro mode and made your own, nice job, earned a subscribe from me.
I bought the 305 some time ago and at first I admit I hated it....but after a few days on it I'd never go back to a mouse over 100g nor would I go back to a wired mouse....a solid choice
I got that g305, very comfortable mouse and clean/simple lookin. It's great for fingertip users like myself, it'd be a 10/10 for me if only the sides aren't fatten out and have rubber instead of plastic for better fingertip grips. But w.e., I love it tho.
i just pulled the coil inside and it now fits AAAs very tightly. no need for foil or that other battery case, also since its cheap im fixing to 3d print another mouse case or drill the hell out of this one with a dremel
i use the mouse on endurance mode while doing homework and browsing the web and switch to the 1000 polling rate only while gaming which usually 2-3 hours a day. great way to save on battery
I seriously won't go back to anything else after the G305. Changed the battery once after 9 months of using it. Is simple, is accurate and is reliable. The ultimate mouse for me.
Hey Optimum I noticed it looks like you're still using the Alienware AW2518HF. I went and picked one up after seeing your review. I've been really wanting to try out 240Hz for games like Apex to see if it was worth using over my PG279Q 165hz 1440p IPS panel. Annoyingly it is super worth it and helps my gameplay, though I'm really stuck trying to pull this monitor into shape to use as a daily driver for other content. In the past I've been pretty happy with the pixel density of 24" 1080p panels, on my 25" AW2518HF however things are pretty bleak, text and OS elements look really pretty poorly on this panel, jagged and poorly defined. I can't work out if it's the TN panel clipping highlights and creating this effect more than anything else. What are your thoughts, do you notice similar effects on your model ? Also, what colour profile do you run? Your panel seems really well dialled in.
Hey I have the ips 1440p acer variant of your monitor, and also bought the Alienware AW2518HF and the LG 27in 240hz as it was very cheap when I bought it, but anyway going back to the alien-ware I calibrated the screen from setting I got online and turn up the colour a bit its much better now, and also I use 100% sharpness and its good make sure you don't use the Dark stabiliser, as it adds some artefacts which you ll see in OS and some games but it also does make some games better but making the image sharper, but this is subjective try and see!
I've been using a colour profile that's worked quite well, for colour and contrast levels at least. It was just another users personal settings from a Reddit thread, what profile are you using ? What is the LG 240hz panel like, I'm imagining it's 1080p TN ? I'm going to look at both it and the ACER variant of the same specs.
I have a video on my channel comparing both 240hz check it out, I think your issue is the dark stabiliser turn it off as it adds some artefacts !! like black um smooth extra pixels effect making desktop look wrong, like around the edges of icons etc and other things ! (the profile cant remember where I downloaded it from if I remember I ll let you know)
logitech g305 is amazing for everyone that has a medium to small size hand, light, accurate with basicly no delay at all one of the best mouse for the price and the best wireless mouse for the price
The biggest selling point for me was that you can replace the battery. I have had many wireless mice with batteries becoming bloated and only able to keep a day's worth of charge. And I would either have to send it back for replacement or void the warranty if I want to fix it. And even then, I would have to make an effort just so I could make it work out of the box-like. I have the g305 and have been using it for more than two months now. The battery indicator on the software hasn't dropped a single bar.
I just switched to a g pro wireless from the 502 and main take away is that i have less fatigue and can snap across my screen easier, not necessarily more accurate. Also the power play mat is awesome if you can get around the price and less cable drag is appreciated.
I just removed it and had some tape put on but then i had to swap batteries quite often(because i have some very bad rechargeable batteries, gonna get some way better soon) so i decided i should just let it be open. Problem is particle accumulation though. Talking about G305.
Wow that 3d printed back cover looks nice. Thanks for the link. You can also add rubberized stick on side grips on the g305 if you prefer better grip. Also you can replace the mouse skates with teflon ones.
If you're very heavy on the arm aiming you can simply be more accurate for longer with light mice, especially when using on speed pads where you'll have to basically manually break a flick to stop it on time. Preferences vary, but it's hard to argue with the logic. Having said that, I really enjoy my 115gram MX518 legendary, despite also using lighter mice ;p
Fairly certain it's PLA. There's really no reason to use ABS. I'm still a bit confused why it took him 6 hours to print it. I printed mine in an hour and 30 minutes in the exact same orientation. So I guess he's just printing at really, REEEEALLY slow speeds? I really like how this cover looks though, and printed mine in white. Might sand it and give it a coat of plastidip though. I'm going to further gut the mice and reduce the weight and balance it (the 305 is very back heavy). Gonna be nice I hope, when done.
It could really be any plastic, to be fair, because I am like 99% sure he spray painted the cover after printing it (seeing as you can't see the layers or anything and it's really smooth).
I have g903 but if I would buy a mouse now I would had bought g703. Its cheaper, has same sensor and battery life as g903 and it feels better in hand. G703 is way to go! I think it even has the wireless charging feature too.
The 3D printed shell wasn't actually lighter at all. You weighed your mouse complete with the AAA battery with adapter and the 3D printed shell and it was 80g. My mouse (same model) with same battery (using aluminum foil) with the shell comes to the same weight. Except I use it without the shell normally which brings it down to 73g. Actually I guess if the adapter weighs maybe a couple grams, then maybe the shell mod did help some. I've considered 3D printing the whole case though with thin walls and holes or something, but I haven't done it yet. But I wonder if the weight reduction would be more than a gram or two...
Found your video by accident and really like it, im a g305 user aswell and im modding him overtime, i'll try to get my hands on a 3-d printer around here (Brazil's government does not like us getting cool things). And I would recomend getting a Hotline Game mouse skates. I swear you'll be surprised of how much of a diference does it makes, the original skates are literall trash
Guys I was at Walmart and I saw a wired mouse with six programmable buttons for 12 dollars and it up but my dad got me the g305 for 50 dollars i was great fun but mad at the same time
Wireless mouse with replaceable battery is I think a better solution than having a wireless mouse with built-in battery. See, Wireless mouse with built-in battery... sucks. It doesn't last long, probably 80 hours tops, and you need to monitor it constantly in order to know when to charge it (yes, some do give low battery indications, but those are so easy to miss), and when you are in game and it suddenly ask for a charge, then you're still dealing with cable in the end. Enter, the replaceable AA battery. No need for more cable hassle for charging. Put an AA battery there, and it'll power the damn thing for the next 100 hours. Out of battery? just yeet the battery out (or re-charge it on your phone charger if you have those usb rechargeable AA battery), and put a new battery in. Never worry about battery degradation, charge cycle and whatnot ever again. Out of battery mid-game? It'll take just 10 seconds to swap the battery out. Easy. And most importantly, it'll remove that one cable on your desk for good. Honestly, I wish more companies start to adopt replaceable batteries inside their wireless peripherals.
Lighter mice are always better IF you can control them. A lot of casual gamers like the feel of heavy mice simply because the weight smooths out the inconsistencies and shakiness in their aim. Instead of training their aim to get better or lowering their sensitivity, they resort to using heavier mice.
When i first got my g304 with lithium, my aim was worst. But after i got accustomed to its weight and adjusting the dpi to my preference (900dpi) and 1000 polling rate, wow my accuracy got a lot better. You really need to practice it. But its the right tool for fps shooter specially with low dpi setting. Its a game changer for me.
The problem is that it's hard to find very large mice that are light. Now, EC1 series and the Finalmouse are considered large however they're not wide enough for my hand to be comfortable, and if smaller people can like larger mice, then a large person wanting a larger mouse makes it even more difficult to find. I also don't really count Finalmouse though because they don't sell to consumers, they are some kind of "exclusive" company. They realized they couldn't meet production so they decided instead to become some kind of exclusive brand. Won't buy one even if I caught it early because they do not care about their customers.
And if you don't want to waste money, import a G304 from Asia. It's a G305 sold in lower tier markets for less money with a different model number so when you google it, it doesn't show you cheap prices. Got mine for 51 Aussie dollarydoos.
I am a bit sad you didn't just drill the heck out of the 305 you already put switches in. lol I am considering it. dremel and edge cleaner mark it and drill a few at a time to ensure strength, which might be the only issue.
imo, the heavier the mouse, the easier it is to drag it along the desk/mouse pad because you have more control. I still love the g102/g203 and the g502.
you have more control because it smooths out the small shakes in your hand. its like training wheels for a bicycle. you dont need it when you improve your aim.
As Redemez here said, more weight is not something that gives you control. Especial when doing fast movements, at that point your hand starts getting trained and it gets hard to consistently stop where you want it.
The click sound is not captured accurately in the video. It's a very distinct click. Makes my old Rival 300 sound like a whisper. It's a satisfying sound though.
Hey bro loved your video and thank you for such a great info as I need it but wanted to ask that will i able to rechargeable that lithium battery and if yes than how??
Can we all finally agree that there is absolutely NO need for high end WIRED mice at this point? Frankly I don't think that there's been a need for them over the past decade or so, this based on my own experience swapping back and forth between wired and wireless over the last decade(save for the last 2-3 years, where I finally decided to stop wasting my time and money on the wired ones since I hadn't noticed any sort of difference in use in all of that swapping), but, of course, if it doesn't say 'gaming', look like a transformer, and have a 15,000,000,000DPI sensor, then OBVIOUSLY it's going to hurt your mad gaming skillz... Anyway, thanks for the quick review, I think I'm going to pick up one of these for FPS use to go along with my G602 pig 'daily driver'. Its colossal weight typically isn't a problem since I haven't really played FPS games competitively in a long time(back in the 'Delta Force: Black Hawk Down' days - otherwise, it's just been to blow off some steam, or if some friends were into a specific shooter) until just recently, and it's multitude of buttons - and, more importantly, button layout - are invaluable in my daily use. With that said, I think I'm going to look at a bit of a weight reduction. I don't know how much weight can realistically be taken out, but those AAA adapters are certainly a good place to start; since this pig takes TWO AAs. Nice to see a different, dare I say niche even, perspective, I know you given me some ideas to run with...
@@chip1646 Weight is a non-issue - they're purpose built gaming mice, they're designed as light as realistically possible. You just watched a video about an 80g mouse, I don't know what to tell you. Linus just reviewed the Logitech G502 Lightspeed - it's lighter than the original wired G502. High mice are expensive no matter the battery configuration. For that matter, I'm not sure of any wireless mouse with a fixed built in battery - I mean, I know they exist of course, but the top high end wireless gaming mice that I'm aware of, and the ones that I've bought over all of these years for that matter, have ALL used standard removable batteries. Point being, there's hardly an issue with finding an appropriate wireless mouse that'll fit your needs that just uses standard replaceable batteries; I'm literally using one. It isn't 2012 any more, these just aren't issues. Which was my original point
i hate how the g305 back logo fades after a while u cant get grips from aliexpress for the mouse if u search like g pro or g203 grip, also u can use a AAA battery with a converter to reduce weight
I honestly don't understand lightweight mice at all... I made a point to get the G502 because it had weights, again, to make it as heavy as possible for precision... I still have to dial in my DPI to get as close as possible to where I like...
