The Unabomber: A Megyn Kelly Show True Crime Special 

Love these long form interviews and this week’s crime week is so interesting. Megyn Kelly is a true star interviewer/journalist with a critical mind. She asked all the questions I wanted to hear and more obviously… in awe for so many reasons. Good job !

Wait! Why all the FBI props? Didn’t his brother turn him in? They would still be hunting without his family alerting them

They never solved the case. His brother turned him in. Such hubris.

The FBI did not figure out who he was. His brother and sister-in-law turned him in after recognizing his writing.

Terry: if the FBI loses the public's trust, they are in trouble. Me: The FBI is in trouble.

Wasn't it Ted's own Family that read his published manifesto and said "Hey FBI I think it's my brother Ted?"

Megyn Kelly - love you, you are the epitome of a strong woman! Love your show!!

Love these episodes Megyn. I hope you are keeping them coming.

Yeah, the investigators worked tirelessly, night and day, employing the most advanced criminal investigative and forensic techniques until the phone rang and Ted's brother told the FBI: "It's Ted"; my wife just recognized his writing style in the manifesto". The FBI then declared: Ok, Ok, Ok...we'll take it from here, pal. Then we'll write some books and give some interviews bragging about how we solved the case with good old police work and fancy profiling.

Awesome program , You are so enthisiastic it really shines through in this high quality interview.

Megyn, thank you for these...and all the work involved. Enjoy very much. God bless

What a great program 👍 This is the end of cable news 🥳 Great job Megan on this interview ✅

There's not many things more dangerous than a genius with criminal intent and a heart full of hate.

I was waiting all day for this! I love these true crime specials. I especially like when you discuss the trials. I would argue that you are one of the best interviewers in history. I'd love to have this be a recurring special... once a week would be amazing. And I think that the guests (other than guy from the Anthony case yesterday) are great! (And even he wasn't terrible, just unprepared and defensive) Thank You! Merry Christmas!!

Love your shows Megyn.

They never would've caught Ted without the help of his brother.

I'm loving these "True Crime Specials" -- thank you!

I really enjoyed this episode. I'm a new viewer and very happy to have found your program. You are so well prepared and you are skillful enough to let the guest talk, and not get in the way! I look forward to exploring past episodes too. Best to you and yours this New Year!

Riveting story tonight. Thanks. I really enjoyed your show. The amount of time you give each of your guests is amazing. I have always enjoyed your style, and this format you have acquired is perfect for the type of interviews you are conducting. 👏👏👏 Bravo!

Excellent interview.

Love your shows!! I'm hooked! From Australia!!

It still hasn't occured to anyone that Ted had a point about over-socialisation and leftism...🙄

Great show I watch from uk best reporter and presenter in usa your excellent in every thing you do

Simply the best!!!

what a great episode Thanks

This interview would’ve been so much better if approached as the complete story of the Unabomber case, rather than a false tale of how this agent and others on the task force “solved” it. They resolved it, not solved it.

Lovin your true crime specials

Another fully engaging show! Thank you!

This reminds me listening to Rush Limbaugh he was comparing to the manifesto of the Unabomber to Al Gore's book and you couldn't tell the difference that was funny we miss you Rushy we all love you God bless

Great show... fascinating

These are great shows. I would love it if Megyn did a 'famous disappearances' special: maybe exploring the cases of DB Cooper, missing UK aristocrat Lord Lucan, and missing Welsh rock star Richey Edwards. Could be a classic.

Why not interview his brother David?? Wrote a book about this. Seeing the fact he and his wife solved the case and turned Ted in. Ya think??

Great podcast! Loving this crime series

Great interview!

Great show I watched every minute.

utterly facinating Megyn! ty

This guys mind is sharp! He remembers all dates and name. Change from yesterday. ☺️

Love how at the end he glosses over experiments because Ted himself didn’t blame it. Doesn’t deny it, doesn’t mention the LSD..

The intro you gave to the guy credited for bringing him in is deceptive.. Ted kazinski's family turned him in. Otherwise you would not have been caught.

Such an important story about how society should avoid provoking rage in any unnecessary way

Admire the commitment and investigative techniques involved to apprehend Ted. I think we (as a society and LE) greatly underestimated the profound damage caused by the University experiments and should take time to examine how rejection, betrayal and humiliation, laid the groundwork for what he became. Not justifying behavior, but it's understandable when one has a horrific experience at a vulnerable age. Especially if you lack social skills and ability to let it out. Going to Uni. early, the experiment, and his intelligence (not able to connect with others or be understood) absolutely created his anger. He lacked the most important part of life... human connection with others.

The Unabomber was right. Look at when the Tech Industry has done to the country. Imagine if more people had recognized the coming evil?

Loving this series! Would love this as a weekly segment

Megyn I really see a Happy Person doing these Crime specials

loving these !!!!!

Ted would be another Zodiac or DB Cooper if not for his brother turning him in. I mean he was as low profile as low profile can be. Out in the woods no electricity, no special apparatus, nothing. One man alone off the grid bent on destroying others. Definitely the most bizzare.

Good question! I never knew that's why he was called the unibomber

These are soo good

Admire Megyn how she didn’t interrupt that much. But he was so long winded. At least he gave credit to others but no mention of another who takes credit Jim Fitzgerald who has a net flix movie and book Unabomber. Self aggrandizement when the family solved the case.

This is a great interview!

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I like the True Crime content MK.

Funny how all these years later and it turns out Ted was 100% correct. If I we’re president I’d give him a pardon and his shack and let him go back in the woods

People should read Kaczynski's actual writings and create their own opinions.

The making of the Unabomber (from the Atlantic By Alston Chase) In 1959 a comfortable old house stood on the site. Known as the Annex, it served as a laboratory in which staff members of the Department of Social Relations conducted research on human subjects. There, from the fall of 1959 through the spring of 1962, Harvard psychologists, led by Henry A. Murray, conducted a disturbing and what would now be seen as ethically indefensible experiment on twenty-two undergraduates. To preserve the anonymity of these student guinea pigs, experimenters referred to individuals by code name only. One of these students, whom they dubbed “Lawful,” was Theodore John Kaczynski, who would one day be known as the Unabomber

While YOU did a great job, there's more questions to answer. I do not believe it was a case of simple revenge! I also don't believe the brothers had the same childhood. Siblings can experience very different things and also David lived in denial. Something horrible happened to TK in college and that at least deserves to be explored. Turchie is very biased in his conclusions and not curious. Typical FBI.

Wow. Fast forward to the FBI today.

Would love to see you do current crime stories too. These are great though.

Glad to watch something besides politics

Interestingly the FBI almost disregarded the evidence of the brother, who was smart enough to hire a lawyer as a messenger. The lab said, no it wasn't typed on the Unabomber's typewriter, but FBI detectives had actually read the evidence. And then they had to deal with their advisory committees who were against the search warrant, and directors had to go against them. DoJ became delusional and tried to turn back the arrest. I mean, this is what people are up against, it's maddening. Pandemic may be serial bioterrorism, my imaginary lawyer says he can't find the investigation team, is there any?

Without doubt Terry Turchie is an enthusiastic advocate for his and other Government agents roles in figuring out who the Unabomber was. So Often however he get stranded up in the trees and seems unlikely to ever land on the forest which viewers not totally up-to-speed on all the minutia want to get too. Meygan expertly keeps bringing the focus back down to earth but overall he leaves us sort of climbing the walls "Get to the Point Dude".

Really enjoyed the show. You know how things can play out in strange ways? Immediately before I listened to the Unabomber, I listened to the Zodiac killer. Dr. Mark Hewitt has written a book about Ted Kazinski being the Zodiac. That in his young years Ted killed pet dogs and made them suffer before death. I can't remember the name of the book, but it really is quite reviting. Mark makes a case that really makes you think. Could you please check it out?

MK fanning the feds when it was his sister-in-law that recognized the writing and went to brother that went to mother and they turned him in

I lived in Jordan, MT when Ted was arrested. The Montana Freeman situation was in full swing and to see the press trying to get out of town to race to Lincoln was crazy.

I never heard about the unabomber after he was caught. It's interesting to hear how he was caught and a little bit about his life. I love his advert for finding love. It really shows the male and female role in his own upbringing and his controlling nature, and lack of social intelligence. I think he might have Aspergers. He definitely ticked all the boxes, highly intelligent, great with maths, poor social skills, love being alone, poor communication skills and definitely have a very strange way of relating his dissatisfaction with the world and his environment.

Kudos, the last 3 interviews I watched, Peterson, Anthony, and Unabomber were reviting. The Unabomber looking for a squaw was hilarious.

"Our best law enforcement agents could not figure out..." You mean the FBI? Not really fair to call them the best. "The Feds finally got a break" when his brother told them who he was.

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

The reason the unabomber was not sentenced to death was out of deference to his mother who begged the court to spare his life. She told of the time during his infancy (pre-verbal) he had to stay in a hospital for a smallish number of weeks (less than a month, IIRC) and that the hospital totally forbade parental visits. She was very clear that when little Ted K. was returned to his parents, his demeanor had changed quite completely, he was no longer engaging, no longer babbling, no longer holding eye-contact, inexpressive, lacking all enthusiasm. She basically blamed the hospital stay for his mental disorder (if indeed it was such), and so (I am guessing) expert testimony regarding Attachment Disorder was enough to sway the court, or the prosecutor. Look up the work of British psychologist John Bowlby for more about Attachment Theory, it might even make you a better parent if you have very young children.

I appreciate this man and the eventual arrest of Kaczinski. However, it was 20 years right?

Ted was a smart dude. What a waste. He entered Harvard at 15... got his Phd at 25. IQ 167. Youngest professor at age 25 at UC Berkeley. Then in 1969, he went rogue, off the face of the earth, and decided to live in a cabin.

Normally I share your RU-vid videos, but I am currently in fb jail for cracking a joke 😑😆. Keep up the good work Megyn!

I thought Ted Kacszynki’s sister-in-law recognized the handwriting of the manifesto??? But it was really typed?

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The FBI lost my trust due to their actions in Waco, and Ruby Ridge; although, their work done on the Unabomber case was first rate.

Knowing what I know I simply cannot listen to this, makes me ill. There's absolutely no excuse for what T.K. did, none.. but let's get real here. I haven't even read any of his writings either.

i thought it was as simple as the fact that his brother turned him in

His brother David turned him in.

❤megan❤

Ted was right about everything

Ted said he was going to stop mailing bombs if they published he’s manifesto yet they found a bomb under his bed in the cabin. He was so fearless,imagine going to sleep at night with that thing under the bed. What I find fascinating is that serial killers love writing. They love keeping diaries that go back to childhood. They even write down and keep shopping lists that date back about 20 years. They will even write down the time they get out of bed when they had their first cup of coffee to every particular place they are going to that day as if they have an agenda or daily planner. It seems everything has to be documented. The strange thing is they leave themselves open when they do this. I put notes in my phone but I memorise that information and delete that information at night before I go to bed. I used to write and write write years ago , I would put down all my inner thoughts and I stopped doing this recently because I thought someone could find my notes like my family and I thought my private thoughts are my own I don’t want anyone reading my inner feelings. Many serial killers would get away with it if they were more careful. Their notes and letters and journals are their downfall. Also I can’t believe how complacent they are with leaving things in open sight for the police to nab them. Teds big mistake was sending and demanding that his manifesto be published and the fact that his family knew exactly where his cabin was. I would have sold that cabin in Montana and bought a more remote incognito cabin up north near the boarder to be more private. It wasn’t David that put him in by the way it was David’s wife Linda and pressure from Linda to put Ted in. Even if David said I am not putting my brother in, Linda would have Pursued it anyway. Ted did need to be caught he was extremely sick and he was killing people and harming them. The last bomb that exploded that Ted sent blew the victim to Smithereens nothing was left of him except his feet that’s all that the family had to bury they couldn’t find the rest of his body it was so blown apart.

Kaczinski was MK Ultra'd at Stanford.

As a mathematician without a degree I enjoy F to C and C to F conversion of things like dates. For instance, 67 is a good one.

Got mk ultra?

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"Some CIA experiments on students" Yes sir you're correct. MK Ultra was the code name for this operation. Not just some experiments by the CIA. Downplaying a KNOWN exercise as to it's effect on him. "We didn't do this...." lol.

Lo and behold

Megyn reading a telepromter! lazt!

Please organize your RU-vid playlists better ~ I’d love to binge watch just your True Crime series. But the shows are all mixed in, not labeled with part 1, 2, etc. Help!

I grew up in Modesto and transferred to Sac State in 94. I was downtown when the last explosion happened. It was in an office but I remember streets being blocked off and people wondering about some kind of mass terrorist attack. I remember following this story much more closely after that. The Unabomber was one of those years long lingering unsolvable mysteries, like the East Area rapist.

Wasn’t Ted subjected to operation paper clip by our ‘intelligence’ agencies & Harvard?

I like Megan, not sure why she decided to turn on Trump??

Didn't I read that he participated in some kind of psychological research study at Harvard that repeatedly told him all of his theories were stupid which made him feel very stupid? Brain washed him to some degree.

I'm starting to think...did he have a point😮

Ted Kaczynski was a prophet and I knew it 20 years ago.

That's a lie, his own brother turned him in

If he didn't exist someone would've invented him. It so fits the current practice of before you launch a program you put out stories giving the impression that everyone opposed must be a dangerous maniac. So, Kazinsky came out right before there was a push to get everyone online. So, perfect timing, right before they there is a story that makes people who oppose look like the Unibomber.

Ted was trying to warn us about technology today..

These people didn't do anything his brother turned him in