The Unbelievable Rule That's Destroying The RV Community

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@GratefulGlamper 22 дня назад

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@harpintn 21 день назад

This looks like classism, and elitism to me.

@Mach11976 20 дней назад

I understand why you can't call out the camp grounds. But I sure can, if you need help let me know. This is ridiculous and very angering.

@alaskanight940 17 дней назад

Perhaps you could interview the park owners and give a less biased report. There are reasons for these rules. Because of the laws in place in many blue areas there is no way to evict for non-pay situations. Some owners also wish to run a higher end park. I personally prefer 55+, no squatters, junk RV's, dogs and children because I prefer quiet and peace of mind on vacation. I look for parks that fit my desires. You have choices, not rights over business owners. I also like pools that are not full of screaming pissing kids, already raised mine.

@gopedmama 15 дней назад

The age restriction is why we bought a smaller, new RV. What kills me is when you arrive at a RV Park/resort and they have old, unkept (at least on the outside) RVs parked in their parks that obviously aren't moving anywhere. There are only a handful of parks like this. Then you have those parks that try to hide the over 10 years old RVs but while exploring the park you find them. At least here in California. I don't understand why there are restrictions for short term stays but then you see these old, falling apart RVs. Why are they there?!? We have been doing upgrades to our travel trailer only to ensure it's safe and is better than it was when we bought it. And trust me, those with RVs know all of the manufacturing problems that COVID brought on. These new RVs that were being mass produced are crap. Oh sure it looks beautiful when you go to buy it. Then you start discovering all the problems. I thank God everyday for my husband. He was a Journeyman ASE Certified mechanic. He has caught problems before the RV companies have.

@mikeschneider5077 10 дней назад

Sorry, ma'am, but it's scorched-earth war with snobbery disguised as "throw-away mentality". How these swine must chortle when they sell their 10yo RV for five-figures when they know the buyer will be restricted.

@pjaypender1009 17 дней назад

Here's the thing,. I don't want to be "in community" with the people who make these rules anyway. These are the people who think HOAs are a good idea too.

@elizabethy2912 13 дней назад

You nailed it!! Karen's are everywhere !! Ugh!

@amr8457 11 дней назад

I agree!!

@h82crash 10 дней назад

HOAs, LOL. Fascist micro nations.

@feefawfern8240 10 дней назад

That's a good and positive way to look at, but sometimes discrimination is a problem, too.

@scottstrang1583 10 дней назад

HOA's are good for keeping house trailers out of your neighborhood. We have an HOA and it's completely useless.

@rvingwithaaronandnaomi 17 дней назад

Not willing to name these campgrounds is actually not helping the community. I understand you’re trying to be the “nice guy” but why would you be nice to a company that disrespected you by questioning the quality of your RV? Would you name a Walmart if their security stopped you from going in because you weren’t dressed correctly? Name them.

@mdtomchick1563 13 дней назад

To not get sued I am guessing

@rickcockcroft7590 13 дней назад

I don’t think you can be sued for a factual statement.

@mdtomchick1563 13 дней назад

@rickcockcroft7590 until the last couple years I wouldn't have believe it either, but.... people throw "defamation" around these days like frozen water bottles at a NYC block party....

@Seansousa757 12 дней назад

@@mdtomchick1563They have no case if you're telling the truth!

@leehyde6610 12 дней назад

RV park south of Carson city NV has age restrictions

@Thrunabulax10 3 дня назад

we looked at buying an RV to tour the USA. when we found out a used RV would be denied access at a lot of RV parks, we quickly decided to NOT buy one. these parks are putting themselves out of business!

@doom4067 2 дня назад

If they start losing money they'll change their policies.

@CuteBirdAwarenessLeague День назад

That’s unfortunate. I had no idea it was that common. I’ve been looking at older RVs because I’m not a millionaire. It’s sad that even RV camping is now for the wealthy only. I guess they’re trying to keep the “riff raff” (Full time van dwellers, some of whom might be homeless otherwise) out, but it seems like if the RV is in running condition, it’s not a situation where someone is running a lab out of their broken down old camper that’s on blocks. Because it actually functions enough to drive them to the campground!

@spirit278 23 часа назад

@@CuteBirdAwarenessLeague Buy what you like regardless of age and go camping. There are thousands of places you can go to that have very few restrictions.

@feralflower8724 19 часов назад

That really is horrible! I hope they realize regardless if you give the name they will end up suffering financially! As they should! 🤨

@Lescqe3uj День назад

Our DP is now 12 years old and when we run into a campground that has an age restrictions, we just tell them “No Thank You” and put the name in our journal and pass it on when we find like minded people so they do not run into that situation.

@lavetapines3681 18 дней назад

We have no age restrictions for nightly and weekly stays at our park. In fact, if its older than 1970 we give a discount. Vintage RVs receive a discount off the cost of a two-night stay based on the age of their RV. For RVs older than 1970 you pay your year. A 1958 Shasta pays $58 for two nights, a 1961 Airstream pays $61, and so on. The older your rig the less you pay. The regular price for two nights starts at $93. We love having vintage rigs in the park and we want to see more.

@annpettay2613 15 дней назад

Thank you!!! Wish more campgrounds did this!!

@patticochran7606 15 дней назад

I love this idea! And as a newer RV owner, I would totally support the elevating of older well-maintained RVs. If I had a campground, I would love to do the same sort of discount to celebrate The people who have lovingly maintained a piece of history. I love old cars and I love old RVs, I hate to buy anything brand new because I think it’s a waste of money. Especially today when RVs are made so poorly that you could practically fall through the floorboards. I think older RVs need to be celebrated, especially when they have been so lovingly taken care of. I think they should go up and value like an old Mustang or Corvette

@tonyaroche7733 15 дней назад

Are you La Veta in Colorado? That’s definitely on my bucket list. Hoping to book a weekend soon.

@jackrobker 14 дней назад

I would to know where you are located at so I can come visit some time.

@RG-xd1gj 14 дней назад

Awesome and thank you, we have a 2004 Chinook 4x4 conversion with over $125000 invested in it. Thank you

@karenmeer2320 17 дней назад

Wow. The older ones were MADE SO MUCH BETTER.

@kadmow 11 дней назад

- and the oldies, are repairable (no proprietary fittings, no longer available 2 yeas after production model ceased), craftmanlike interiors. Modern rigs, all staples glue and plastic - fillers and lining materials.

@fredyow5395 11 дней назад

Ours is an aluminum frame, not wood.....

@chelseacraft4669 9 дней назад

As someone who lived in a 1965 holiday rambler 32’ trailer for two years back in the 1980s… I completely agree with you.

@shannonobrien9922 7 дней назад

Brought Airstream to my mind!

@JCcreates927 7 дней назад

Why I always buy older rv's.

@Jon-ze4vv 8 дней назад

If you were really interested in helping RVs with older RVs, what you would do is do a video on the campgrounds that refuse RVs over 10 years old!!

@uprailman День назад

Yes, have all RVers boycott those campgrounds as some time in the future ones new RV will be 15.

@grayrabbit2211 5 дней назад

I don't have a problem with campgrounds having rules like this -- it tells you that you probably don't want to be there. Name & Shame the offending sites.

@jacksunstone8771 21 день назад

I'm an truck driver. I travel the Country. I see old Bounders, Wonderlodges, and Bus Conversions all the time. And they're in better shape than the new junk rattling down the highway with crooked slideouts, flapping roofs, obvious bent frames, warped siding, and smokin brakes.

@spyder000069 20 дней назад

Not the ones on the side of the roads in los angeles. Thats is probably what they are trying to avoid.

@MaryWehmeier 20 дней назад

😘

@lifequest7453 20 дней назад

@@spyder000069 -- The ones on the side of the roads in Los Angelos is an entirely different problem. There are homeless people living in them and most of them won't run anymore. That is an entirely different story not related to this one.

@lightwarrior432 19 дней назад

@@lifequest7453 Straight FACTS 😉👍🏽

@Christophe81961 19 дней назад

I agree!

@jangranse5034 19 дней назад

In 2006 we had reservations at an RV Park in San Diego. We pulled up to check in and were told that we couldn't stay there because of restrictions. Our trailer was a T@b which was quite unique at that time. It was a vintage DESIGN but it was only 6 months old. The 10 year rule was tossed at us. I showed the clerk the title. Still denied and she refused to call the manager. There were no vacancies in any of the other campgrounds and we didn't know at the time how to boondock. Finally, I just refused to leave and told the clerk to either call the manage or the police because I was NOT leaving. A couple of hours later, the manager showed up and put us in a campsite. The sting of discrimination was a useful lesson to me in empathy for others to whom that rule actually did apply.

@jackstitt1395 18 дней назад

Which RV park was that?

@jangranse5034 18 дней назад

@@jackstitt1395 I don't remember the name of the RV Park. It was in San Diego and a member of Passport America at that time. It was very nice and had some waterfront sites.

@pjaypender1009 17 дней назад

Because this rule is not really about age, it's about maintaining a certain look of affluence. Don't wanna let the poors in.

@johnstoll4474 16 дней назад

Horrible. Sorry that happened.

@conservativechristian8508 13 дней назад

Good for you!

@Bruce.94538 10 дней назад

The age limit also discourages people from wanting to RV for the first time since they would probably by used, as I know it will for me. Some RV parks should promote that they take older RVs as a marketing ploy.

@jakestyles002 13 дней назад

I spoke to someone that owns and operates an RV Park, she said that the reason there is an "age restriction" on RV's is not because it is old or ugly, it is because that often people abandon their RV's and Campers at campgrounds if the amount of renewal is more expensive than the value of the camper. Though I was surprised that someone would abandon their campers, it made sense that it could be a problem. I have an '87 Gulfstream Sunsport that has been renovated, so mine is pretty nice and is very solid and I would never leave it. Too much "blood, sweat and tears" as well as resources in this Rig to leave it behind.

@noodgenoodgerson2660 12 дней назад

I apologize, no offense meant, but I find that hard to believe - that a person would make a reservation just in order to abandon the trailer. Seems like a lot of expense and trouble to go through, when that sort of unethical behavior would be achieved for even less by just driving out into the sticks and abandoning it there. (Which we have seen near our home, btw...)

@jakestyles002 12 дней назад

@@noodgenoodgerson2660 I hear you, me too... though I guess for some people, a camper or motor home is somewhat disposable.

@petewebber8671 11 дней назад

My parents had a campground where they ended up crushing 2 campers that were left behind. I would ask for pics and then decide. Private campgrounds are required to rent a site.

@kitefan1 10 дней назад

@@noodgenoodgerson2660 In the more populated parts of the Northeast there aren't many sticks left where someone wouldn't notice an abandoned vehicle. The land owner has to deal with getting rid of it. More complicated if it has a title. If you junk your old vehicle it usually costs.

@amatureprofessional 10 дней назад

This makes no sense…they could just contact a tow company to haul it away if that happened.

@AMullen-ij3io 15 дней назад

We the RVers must hold these campgrounds accountable. We can't do that without knowing the campgrounds names!

@davidandbilliejo4203 10 дней назад

Or you just don't stay at campgrounds with such policies. They are in it to make money. If they aren't making money, they will change their rules.

@kathytincler2446 8 дней назад

@@davidandbilliejo4203 Like she said you need names to hold these ppl accountable. Of course you won't stay at that campground. We need to make sure this doesn't become the norm.

@grannysweet 8 дней назад

Please someone start a age restriction list by State. Have a email we can send to names/location to.

@dallbariscak7818 6 дней назад

AGREE! We own a newer RV and I still wouldn't support this park or any that have age restrictions.

@doom4067 2 дня назад

It's not a question of accountability. People simply deserve to know the policies before they show up. If I know a business isn't going to sell a service to me, I'm not going to bother showing up. It's also not malicious to advertise their own policies for them, but that requires naming them.

@ronaldohagenow1467 15 дней назад

I tried semi retirement in 2015 w a trip to Florida for the winter, I made reservations for Ocala Fl, paid my first 2 months, upon arrival the very next morning, management showed up w a 12 page contract that I was expected to sign right then and there, without having my coffee, i explained I do no transactions without coffee, breakfast and coffee. The ‘ manager ‘ was indignant, came back 7 mins later and demanded I sign or leave immediately. Without a refund, I called my bank, cancelled the transaction. I went to another campground and was told they don’t accept toyhaulers, but they recommended a campground that did.Upon my 7 months in Florida over that winter I checked out numerous campgrounds as I have done the past. 45 years. About 7% at the time had age restrictions for RVs as well as the vehicle that towed them, Never went back to Florida, I’m a gypsy traveler instead. My home base is Vermont. I should mention I’m 70, I’ve camped for 50 years, I’ve owned 27 RVs to date.

@gaystone5897 11 дней назад

In Texas, Port Aransas, to be exact, there is an RV resort, that not only restricts age, but also length. Your RV must be at least 24 feet, as well as less than 10 years old…

@curtbilyeu8701 8 дней назад

dam, you are a camping badass. if i owned a camping park you would get the royal treatment.

@will7its 6 дней назад

Yeah, sorry but you are not camping.....lol

@ronaldohagenow1467 6 дней назад

@@curtbilyeu8701 Thanks for that. My first ‘camper’ if you would call it that, was a Nimrod, a sorta pop up without cables, it was simplistic, ice box, 2 small beds. It was awesome. I lost my Weekend traveler, (a 32’ single slide) amongst other things, July 10, 2023,here in central Vermont due to the flood.

@TheOpinionatedGranny 3 дня назад

Oh my goodness…I would LOVE to talk to you about RVing in Vermont! My son just moved from TX to Burlington, VT to get his Ph.D. in neurological biology. If you see this, please PM me! I just retired and bought my RV last year. 😊

@btdarterschannel112 2 дня назад

I'm with you. Age-restricting is bad for the economy, the RV community and the environment. We should value older things that are well-built and well-maintained. 👍👍

@kimlittleton4943 11 дней назад

I really enjoyed this video. WE purchased a 2005 Sunline and completely renovated it. It is much better than the newer ....um....crap....we had looked at prior to our purchase. This is very sad. Many years ago, when I was traveling as a single mom and took my kids all kinds of places in a tent. We met some of the best folks, who were camping near us, in their big Class A's, and we were just in a tent. So the community thing is a major deal. It is what made me want to explore and travel even more. I loved meeting new folks from all walks of life. I agree, that is the glue and the foundation of us nomads.

@1LavenderLace 21 день назад

Don't post the name of the campground to shame them - post it so we don't bother attempting to book with them. I love my 2004 Itasca Suncruiser 38R! Won't be talked out of it!

@philhacker2405 20 дней назад

They are forcing themselves a Boycott of these parks.

@bb89scbb31 20 дней назад

If you look at the last video of this subject in the comment section I mentioned said campground. Many of the talking points I addressed when I put them on blast. Nobody should have to lie to spend premium dollars to stay in your resort. Ill put my 2004 American Eagle against anything in their campground.

@borandell9915 20 дней назад

Well said. My thoughts exactly.

@frankpeck1448 19 дней назад

Great Idea! Not only that, but the mere presence of Peer Pressure, could very well have a Positive Effect on the RV Industry! Let's DO IT!

@scottmichaels6854 19 дней назад

No, post the name so those of us who don't have older RVs can actually go to parks that DON'T look like downtown Los Angeles with all their junk RVs. Please boycott all these parks so it frees up space for those of us who are not whiny little babies and want to go to nice parks.

@kdooms 21 день назад

Should totally mention the names of the camp grounds. They are never going to change until the weight of the community begins crushing them. You guys have a very large following, and there are other RU-vidrs out there that would join in I am sure. Insurance is a cop out if they even try to use it as a reason. You can insure a manufactured home in tornado alley, they can afford to have insurance for your very well kept older RV. They build all of that stuff into the cost of a stay. What a world we live in these days.

@Royce12607 21 день назад

Major agreement here. Until we start naming names, the problem will only get worse.

@GratefulGlamper 21 день назад

Our goal with this video was not necessarily to trash these two campgrounds (they own two - one is a 55plus in The Villages and one is in Tampa) but rather to bring awareness to the absurd policies these campgrounds (and many others) are enforcing. Thanks for watching

@kdooms 21 день назад

@@GratefulGlamper I don't believe that stating who they are is trashing them. You are simply providing a service to the rest of the community by giving them knowledge. Ultimately it's up to you guys, but to me stating facts is no different than if you were to go there and stay, and then do an unbiased review, or for that matter to buy a product and offer a review (which you do regularly and many of us have benefited from) that may contain facts about the product that do not shine a bright light on it. Just my two cents. Love your content and nothing but respect for you guys here.

@msmichelej 21 день назад

This is like helping without helping! Falls under “thanks for nothing” category!!!! This is like that backhanded compliment That good intention that the road to heck is built out of Treating the symptom when a cure is available 🤷🏽‍♀️IJS!

@delstanley1349 21 день назад

Liz Armstrong would have named names.

@allowedtotalk8910 8 дней назад

I didn't know this was happening. My hubby and I agreed to sell our two-year-old camper because of the RV parks that won't allow "big" dogs. They turn down our female German Shepherd more than I care to think about. We give up. If you live near Millbrook Alabama our camper is for sale at Clarks RV Center for $13,995. Your camper and the other older year camper are immaculate. Our dog is no more harmful than a husky or chow but the parks say no German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Dobermans, Mastiffs, Great Danes and Pitt Bulls. People make dogs dangerous. Our girl is mild-mannered but we quit.

@catherineromero1862 8 дней назад

Yep. I worked for one of those corporate owned places. It’s ridiculous. I live in a nicer park that now advertises itself as an rv resort. We have all manner of sizes of dogs here, but I’m just waiting for the day they lay that one out or restricting cats too. My neighbor around the corner has a Great Dane. This breed are couch potatoes yet would be denied at some parks so that the owners of yappy little biting small dogs can feel safe 🙄

@TRPGpilot 5 дней назад

I avoid places that allow animals. If I wanted to mingle with animals I would go sleep at a farm . . .

@allowedtotalk8910 5 дней назад

@@TRPGpilot - Humans are sometimes the worst problem in an RV Park. The shower room looked like a farm animal was there. Dogs and cats are people's pets. Just be honest and say you don't like having a pet.

@TRPGpilot 4 дня назад

@@allowedtotalk8910 I had all manner of pets for most of my life. However my pets are at the end of the day . . . animals, not human beings. I dont want to share my space with your animals and that's OK. Most places cater to humans only and quite a few cater to humans and animals and you are free to patonise those establishments . . .

@coffeechocolate7364 2 дня назад

Go to Four Paws Campground Resort in Rutherfordton, NC it was built for the dogs and their over 18 owners. Our favorite place

@CenturyHomeProject 11 дней назад

if I were a campground owner, I would encourage vintage RV and camper owners to come to my campground. Like you said some of these older models are literally works of art on wheels. The love and care that is embellished onto these classic models shows by the pride, the owners having them. The fact that they have been updated to still be used for their original function as a testament to their craftsman ship, and to the owners who maintain them. I would even go so far to set up different sections in the campground to where people that had 50s and 60s campers camp together. 70s and 80s campers the same. But only if they want to. Make each section fit to the time where you can park. I can’t help but wonder do they have a restrictions on vehicles at the campground? What if someone owns a 57 Chevy coupe? Are they not allowed to park it there?

@JoeHellerOfficial 15 дней назад

I'd wager the RV Manufacturing Association has a [secret] deal with select RV Resorts forcing as you said, the decrease in value (trade in) for older RVs forcing RV owners to buy newer RVs. This practice is not unheard of in other industries. The challenge is proving it.

@kidynamite58 10 дней назад

Believable, let's take it a step further, how many of these RV resorts in question are actually owned by one RV manufacture or another?

@JoeHellerOfficial 10 дней назад

@@kidynamite58 and/or have in addition to owning a % in the specific rv resort they may own a % in the holding company that owns multiple rv resorts to keep this requirement at the level of the parent company to keep the employees of the resort in the dark

@stephenscorzo 10 дней назад

It makes you wonder if we can contact a state legislator to create some kind of set of laws to prevent this practice, as it can be argued like the video says, cause wastefulness, and discriminate between RV owners arbitrarily. Being a full time RV owner, I'm recognizing that we don't have as many protections as someone who lives in a brick and mortar apartment.

@gardenhawk 8 дней назад

My thoughts exactly!!!

@paulmckenna5224 6 дней назад

@@stephenscorzo I'm sure the RV companies have lobbyists who keep state and federal congressmen and representatives in their pockets. Nobody represents the little guy anymore.

@craignickum6551 21 день назад

The only way to get change is to put pressure on them. Release the name.

@WireEd1966 21 день назад

Yes. Tell us where not to stay. I’ll vote with my wallet.

@Milesco 20 дней назад

@@WireEd1966 Agree! 👍

@lightwarrior432 19 дней назад

Yes please!

@atimko123 16 дней назад

Sounds like it's many more than 1 place w that rule

@Milesco 16 дней назад

@@atimko123 Yes, but the other places are reasonable and flexible and will allow an older RV if it's in good condition.

@nondisclosureable 2 дня назад

I lived in a full time community for awhile until I was forced out by a new RV age requirement. The Park changed hands, (same family older couple running it just retired and passed it to the kids) and in order for the park to get a new insurance policy in the 'new owners' names they were required to evict anyone with a rig older than 25 years. The kids running the place were very transparent that they hated this but because they legally had to have insurance to remain open at all, they had no choice. Unfortunatly that meant I was unable to find anywhere in the region I lived in that would permit a long stay with hookups and I lost my home and had to go back to renting.

@tfresh99 5 дней назад

I want to say the popularity of RV’ing is also impacting these rules. Any recreational activity in Florida now can be a nightmare, and finding a nice campground can be tough. Some businesses place a filtering process to not just let everyone and anyone.

@DonMcConaughy 21 день назад

One of the biggest things I don't like about those policies is, say you are comfortably retired, living the dream in a new unit that isn't affected bt that policy, but your kids or friends who have units that are affected. So, you won;t be able to camp with family and friends due to that discrimination!

@GratefulGlamper 21 день назад

Very true - thanks for the comment and for watching

@noodgenoodgerson2660 12 дней назад

Good - no Great - Point!

@mikemotorbike4283 10 дней назад

Yeah I thought the point of family camping was to pile out of the RV into lawn chairs around a campfire roasting hotdogs, playing guitar and telling stories while the kids ran around and went to bed late. I guess this is sheer horror to the 1% now, to which everyone is pandering. And that's the relevant issue: the stratification of wealth at the top. You either worked for your money or earned it passively through investments; making for unrelateable ghost stories. Wealth simply strums a different folk tune.

@DonMcConaughy 10 дней назад

@@mikemotorbike4283 100 %

@OccidentalonPurpose 21 день назад

RV age restrictions even more frustrating now considering new RVs are plagued with major quality issues. A well-maintained, 15-year-old coach is likely to be better than something built since about 2019. Pressuring people to unload rigs that are in great shape and paid for in order to use something with worse build quality they have to pay tons of money for seems counterproductive. And big time thumbs up on the environmental impact of pressuring people to buy huge, new RVs when they already have one that's perfectly fine.

@Craig2142 21 день назад

I 100% agree. We had a very well maintained 08 and traded up only to get a 22 with more problems than the 08. The kicker was we only traded because we were getting rejected from lower 48 parks for age restrictions. Otherwise I miss the 08 and liked it better.

@daisygirl5368 21 день назад

Our RV inspector also works in the service department at one of our local RV dealership. He told us don’t buy anything post Covid /2020. He said everything was mass produced to keep up with the demand. He said it’s all junk. He thinks this will put some of the manufacturers out of business. Nobody will be buying them once the public starts researching RV and TT. They will be buying used. Making for older models forcing the age discrimination obsolete. 🤞

@mikecagle984 20 дней назад

Which makes me wonder - are these rv park in cahoots with the rv manufacturers?? Just asking...

@marybourgeois5235 13 дней назад

@@mikecagle984Ooooooooo GREAT POINT!!!!!! TOUCHE

@mikemotorbike4283 10 дней назад

@@mikecagle984 it wouldn't be the first time RV makers took over their industry, predatorily. It happened in the 70s when one major bought the rest. It's possible they are subsidizing losses, if any, for instituting age restrictions. Perhaps it works also as advertising within a defined market segment- to see the new bling all around may encourage Jonesing or competitive upbuying.

@JimMillsCSLC 15 часов назад

The WORST aspect of RV life is having to audition to RV parks to see if you are “good enough” to stay there. F them. I would always seek out the simpler more affordable options without all the judginess.

@kevintraill7213 10 дней назад

As long-time RV owners and having worked in the service side of the industry, I share in your frustration. I wish people would talk about what really started age restrictions. As many know, it can be difficult to get rid of an old junker RV. Some campgrounds found they had issues with someone booking a site, bringing in an old unit that may look good on the outside, but have issues (rusted out frame, mold and rotten floors) that make repair costs exceed the value of the coach. People would book a site and then just abandon their RV leaving the campground on the hook for the cost of disposal and the expensive task of trying to chase the person to recoup the disposal costs. Pictures of an RV can be deceiving so park owners started to put limits on the age . For park owners it became easier to protect themselves by putting age restrictions in place. I'm sure my comments will rustle some feathers. It's a rule that frustrated us owning a 20+ year old trailer that is in perfect shape visually and mechanically thanks to my years of working in RV service.

@stephenscorzo 9 дней назад

It's kind of like discriminating against people, you find a stereotype about a demographic of people and you just ban them outright to keep your neighbor problems solved.

@angelaklinger2951 19 дней назад

We have been full timing for 18 years. We retired our fifth wheel and it is on a lot in Casa Grande Arizona. We now travel in a big arctic fox truck camper. Our truck is a 5500 Dodge and we had a special utility bed built and then we purchased our truck camper. Total cost was $118,000. We were turned away from four different RV parks over the years because we had a “truck camper“. Yet there were permanent residents at the campground living in old RVs that did not look roadworthy. Another campground turned us down because we had a cat. They allowed dogs but didn’t allow cats. We even told him we don’t allow our cat outside that he would stay in the RV. They never gave us a reason.

@Starfish2145 15 дней назад

That’s absolutely ridiculous.

@gretaholmes783 6 дней назад

That is no more offensive been trying to sneak in a fish in a dish! How crazy are these people?

@nodak81 5 дней назад

Your own condescention towards "old RVs that did not look roadworthy" doesn't exactly inspire any sympathy for you...

@arsenioamador2370 2 дня назад

@@nodak81 Is TROLL your middle name?

@SheltiesRule49 18 дней назад

I am 74 years old and traveling solo. I bought a travel trailer within my budget means this past January. Was wanting to camp and bring my K9 companion with me. Well, my travel trailer is a vintage 1962 model, it is in very good condition with a decent enough paint job. Not the colors I would have chosen, but nor is it a psychedelic paint job either. In doing research while doing a few minor interior modifications, I did find out to inquire about the 10 year rule. In doing so - before I could ever even hit the road with my travel trailer - I was given two rejections due to the age of the travel trailer (not me lol). My dog is acceptable!! The campgrounds were in Houston and Dallas Texas. I had family & friends there. I wanted to stay for four - five days and visit. That’s it and the rates weren’t cheep either. One place wanted a picture, and I complied. The other just repeated that they had a 10year rule. This has deterred me from going camping a little, and I am very disappointed. I am now having to limit my stays to state parks, burea of land management land, etc. I was hoping for a clean & safe place to stay for a few days at a time, and travel a bit. I will do more research and inquiries as to where me, my k9, and 1962 Tepee travel trailer will be welcomed.

@karincorbin2355 13 дней назад

Stay in State Parks. They do not have age restrictions.

@MuskratOutdoors 13 дней назад

Personally, I don't like snobs and try to avoid them. I can't understand why anyone would want to be around other folks anyway. That's not camping, it's parking in a glorified parking lot surrounded by snooty "people". NO THANKS!

@gweger6425 12 дней назад

@@MuskratOutdoorsamen to that! Why the hell would anyone want to stay there anyway.

@Nurturing2 12 дней назад

Unacceptable. I am so sorry!!! Sadly, there are a great deal of unconscious souls out there!!! Sending love & light, dear friend!!! 🙏😇💫

@rinkrude1 12 дней назад

Just HOA's full of Karens...who wants to be around that

@NorthlandSLC 3 часа назад

Seeing the diversity of campers and people is the best part of RV’ing. As a kid in the 70’s my parents turned an old school bus into a home and we toured the southern US like Gypsies for two years. It was an adventure I never forgot. Now I love to see it when all kinds of people from tenters to wealthy coaches and interesting diy rigs like we had all interacting. Camping should never be hoa suburbia. People leave those to go camping. It would be interesting to build a list of these discriminating places and build a competing inclusive place in the same area with better marketing.

@passthetunaporfavor День назад

Driving yesterday I saw an oldtimer like me driving a 1950's station wagon that was immaculate. Other cars were taking pictures of his ride. Dude was living the dream.

@RollingOn-fk6ye 21 день назад

We should press the campground routing apps (RV Life, All Stays, Campendium, etc...) to make this a very visible category on each website listing. Including letting people know that there are no age restrictions, as opposed to just omitting the rating. I have a 2020 (not $1.5m) but would be happy bypassing any restrictive campgrounds. Plus that is important information for people with the older trailers to know. I never pay attention but cannot recall noting any campgrounds with age restrictions in RV Life.

@GratefulGlamper 21 день назад

That is a VERY good suggestion

@willieiso118 21 день назад

Unfortunately with how popular RVing has become, there are others who will game this system to their advantage and gladly stay in a park with all newer than 10 year coaches, yuppy campers.... It's a shame, but those people are out there....

@miketomas8564 21 день назад

Oh I LOVE this Idea!!

@davidpearson2581 21 день назад

Great idea! If we stay at a campground and notice they have age restrictions in their rules, we should leave a review mentioning these restrictions and give them an average rating.

@Milesco 20 дней назад

@@davidpearson2581 Or _below_ average.

@worthgreene334 19 дней назад

I think this is one of the best videos you have produced. You are dead on correct. Denying campers simply based on RV age should be illegal!

@andreeahoudini5908 14 дней назад

It’s the homeless people parked on the sides of the road with beat up rvs

@alicial6072 13 дней назад

@@andreeahoudini5908 are you saying homeless people are getting denied? because rv resorts are very expensive and most likely out of their price range, its out of mine as i'm cheap and refuse to pay for amenities that i'm not going to use, I like state parks.

@andiharp9275 12 дней назад

@andreeahoudini5908 most "homeless" people aren't blessed enough to have so much as a tent to pitch, no pot to piss in, nor window to throw it out. So, those whom are fortunate to have an RV, regardless of condition, are a step ahead. On either front, they should not be discriminated, punished, or looked down upon as lesser humans - as your comment comes crossed. 😢 Not all "homeless" people are so of their own choosing. 🙄 😒 😑 Nor are many able, let alone willing, to go into hock till their great grandchildren are grown to live beyond their means in order to keep up with the Joneses. Before countering with maintenance, blah, blah, blah, that costs money, physical ability, n a generally clear head - which are impacted purely by virtue of being "homeless." Suffice it to say, mental health is the culprit to many a woes when homeless, especially when coupled with the stigmas of homelessness. It's sad to constantly hear such negative references regarding homeless people. It sounds like being homeless is criminal. Well, the only criminal component of homelessness I see is that it exists in a country that is so rich n has seemingly more vacant properties than homeless people to occupy them. I understand that some homeless people are so of their own choosing, or due to poor choices in life. They bare the brunt of paying the piper... That's not the case for the majority...😢 If they are "parked on the side of the road in beat up rvs," I guarantee you it's not their first choice. A beat up rv is better than a doorway, park bench, or bush. This video isn't about homeless or poor folks with substandard rvs, though. If folks of reasonable means n nice, well maintained rvs are restricted, due to the age, can you not imagine why there are those "beat up rvs" on the side of the road? "You don't know what it's like till you're there." "Empathy goes a long way." ✌️

@andiharp9275 12 дней назад

@@alicial6072sadly, many state parks are quite discriminatory towards homeless people - on so many levels. 😢 😔 Then, there's the issue that even when the homeless can manage to pay to stay, most do so at the expense of having enough to afford maintenance on their rvs, if they are lucky enough to have one. ✌️

@mcclungfarm7965 11 дней назад

So the owner of a private campground shouldn't be aloud to have a their own rules??? Come on. If you disagree with a rv resort rules then don't go there. However, saying it should be illegal is flat out crazy talk.

@Wehkingroya 12 дней назад

Couldn’t agree more. My husband and I live in a camper van we converted ourselves. It’s quite lovely, however certain RV parks, for instance, Clarksville Tennessee, where my husband was stationed, did not allow camper vans to live long-term, (5 months) only RV’s. We were lucky to find a campground on Fort Campbell base. ❤

@Kennethvitatoe-jc5pv 5 дней назад

I had a 20 yd old RV ,but one time I went through this turned out my RV looked better than a. Lot of RV,s camping around me at the time ,lol ,they could not believe how old my unit was !

@glennwatkins8496 21 день назад

Years ago we purchased a 1969 Kencraft travel trailer and spent 2 years redoing the entire plumbing, wiring, exterior, interior, etc. when we were done it was a thing of beauty. All original solid ash paneling, a four burner stove and full size oven, 10 gallon water heater with an expansion tank so the pump wouldn't cycle on and off. the list went on and on. I even gutted the bathroom due to water damage and completely rebuilt it using the original pink tube/shower and chrome finish trim. So sad that some parks are to "high class" to think that anything with age is worthless. Our Kencraft was built like a tank and rode so smooth. They don't build them like that anymore.

@gdt5430 21 день назад

Charity it's a little more complicated than just age, it also involves type of Rv as well. My family have been RV park owners for over 70 years in a town that is a favorite destination. With regard to age of RV, we do have a 15 year limit imposed in the last 4 years. While we have Manager's discretion clause on admissibility the real issue is we have RVs showing up that are on their last leg and the owners intend to park that RV and never leave. When they stop paying rent and electricity for weekly or longer tenants they game the system knowing that an eviction process is required in this state (squatting). Once the judgement is issued to get them out (4 months later) they walk away from what is a pile of RV junk and now it cost $4K to have the unit declared abandoned and re-titled so it can be removed legally. This happens way too much and has become very expensive, so the rule was put into place to reject any RV that didn't have a reasonable market value based on condition or was 15 years old or greater unless the condition exception applied. Every RV is inspected for full functionality before it's allowed into the park for more than a night or two. Units with obvious issues, in other words tenements on wheels are rejected regardless of age. Old units that are clearly restorations or in stellar in condition are admitted no problem. Now on another issue, this RV discriminatory practice didn't just start with RV age, it started with Class A only resorts which personally pisses me off. My personal Fifth-wheel rig is over $250K, young and in like new condition but I'm not allowed to be in the same park/resort as somebody with a $50K FR3 class A. Now let's examine that. I think you're great and provide excellent content objectively.

@dannyboy4372 21 день назад

Thanx for that explanation.Answers alot.😎👍

@marksilvestro450 21 день назад

Have the rigs towed as illegal parks...

@pinschrunner 21 день назад

Thanks for taking the time to explain from a business owners perspective.

@RoamingRoberts 21 день назад

I personally don't want to stay at any snooty Class A only parks. And by the way my FR3 Class A was $98K brand new in 2019. Can't imagine any for $50K.

@waynelion-cachet35 21 день назад

@@marksilvestro450 and who pays that cost? That was mentioned in the comment, because the absconding client isn't paying, and owes fees already. The parks can't afford to do this. Unfortunately, some (a minority) are ruining it for the majority, again. The discretion of management is great, if you can find good managers.

@mrz1949 2 дня назад

Completely agree many older RVs were made to last versus the newer ones that start falling apart as soon as you leave the dealership

@astererratum6546 8 дней назад

I live in an RV park (mobile home) and i LOVE seeing older RVs. Its always such a joy to find them. Id be so sad staying in a park with new only RVs.

@doccadaver 14 дней назад

I have a 5th wheel dutchman that was built in 84. We take it out for extended weekends. It's old, it looks old and it need a lot of restoring. but it travels down the road good and everything works well, albeit it needs a lot of updates and its getting that. Me and the wife take our kids out for extended weekends and have a wonder full time. What it doesn't have is tv's, wifi, or a working radio. And the stove has never been used. What it does have is a few board games, a deck of cards for rainy days, a bike rack, and the essential's to cook over the pit. (don't through your trash in the pit please)... and last but not least relaxing lawn chairs. The best thing it has is smiling faces and wonderful memory's! And even if I only paid 4k for it, the times we have in it are priceless. I'll probably never sell it and if I get turned down from a camp ground because it squeaked once or its 40 yrs old being pulled by a brand new F350 Then I wont be giving my well earned money to stay there. And I will go down the road to the state grounds!!!

@Candanciee 12 дней назад

The problem, most state campgrounds are booked full during the summer months unless you get a reservation well in advance, midweek you can sometimes get a spot but weekends are impossible.

@doccadaver 12 дней назад

@@Candanciee so true we run into this problem every time

@robertsmida9601 3 дня назад

@@Candanciee And who's fault is that that you didn't plan????

@Candanciee 3 дня назад

@robertsmida9601 you would have to plan months if not a year in advance to get into campgrounds around us on a weekend. The days of, hey let's go camping and fishing this weekend are gone.

@mikebrant192 21 день назад

100% agree. We have a 2021 model MH, and if this question is asked, we tell them, then tell them that we will take our business elsewhere. it's my money, and I don't intend to use MY money to be around snobs.

@Patricia_Stewart337 21 день назад

❤️🙏

@miketomas8564 21 день назад

Oh, I do more than that! I leave a review: "Added to my "RV - Age Discrimination List" . That's all you ever need to say..

@cliffclark6441 20 дней назад

This is common, has been sense the 80s and 90s, most time it is not the rv parks fault, it is county or city ordnance. Chatt tn and the county its in hamiltion has the 15 year rule, you got to park in another county if over 15 year old. 15 year old is kind of new rules in the 80s most places where 10year old. Around 2000 lots of places extended the 10 year old rule to 15 year old. Before buying a RV know the age rules, 10 year or older rv has little value, if to be used for camping. Its the law in plenty of places.

@scottmichaels6854 19 дней назад

Good. It frees up a spot for the rest of us. I hope you all boycott these parks because the overcrowding is ridiculous.

@mikebrant192 19 дней назад

Here's the thing: these str the CGs that are the most crowded , rule-ridden, and generally unfriendly anyway. People who go to these locations are often competitive and insular.

@timothyrector6112 12 дней назад

Hi, I really liked this video. You bring up a very valid point. We have a new 2022 Montana High Country 5th wheel we bought in 2023 when the season sales were going on during the end of winter. Even though we are both going to be 71 years old in 2024, we plan on using the 5th wheel as long as we both can comfortability travel. We are not Full time RV travelers. But, we have put in over 5000 miles already in the past two years since we purchased the 5th wheel. But, I agree that our ability to economically find non-exclusive places to stay in 10 years will be limited if this RV age limitation is more wide spread. We will be advocating for more RV parks to look at their exclusive rules to include documented proof that older well maintained RV's are not excluded. The way to change the pattern is to change the flow of money into these exclusive RV parks. Yes, the more affluent can afford to update to newer RV's but that segment of the RV users is diminishing. Eventually, the exclusive rules will limit the income of these RV parks. It costs less to maintain the RV than to purchase a newer model. The RV manufactures realize this also. The manufactures are posting DIY videos on how to maintain their products. They know that some DIY owners will buy OEM products to keep their RV's in working condition. That means a secondary market that the manufactures are using will benefit from those of us that want to maintain our RV's. Thank you and GOD bless you for post this information on your RU-vid channel. Tim Rector

@GratefulGlamper 12 дней назад

Thanks for watching and for the comment

@LewisNClarkAdventures 3 дня назад

We bought a well-loved, 20 year old toy hauler a year ago and mostly boondock in the desert or forest within a few hours of our home. I had no idea this was a thing. It seemed like this may not affect us but, every few nights, we like to spend a night with hook ups, dump, refill, take a good long shower and head back out. It never occurred to me there would be camper age restrictions. I’m glad I found your video so I can look out for that. Thank you!

@ThePewterPalace 21 день назад

The person who commented and who's family has owned an RV park for generations is spot on about the squatter issue. Perhaps what truly needs to happen is campground owners (and associations) in these particular states where the laws work against the Cg owners from getting rid of squatters need to lobby for changing the laws or creating one's excluding campgeounds. Campground sites are more akin to the renting of a hotel room than an apartment or house. A campgeound owner should be able to call a tow truck and tow out a squatter within a much shorter time if the camper fails to pay accordingly or has major system failure that could cause health and safety issues for all involved. This would get to the root of the real issue and fear of getting saddled with squatters or unsafe rigs. ANOTHER THOUGHT TOO...if asked the agent of your rig, turn around and ask the campground what year was their last electrical upgrade? Age of their bath houses and septic systems? Is their pool and hot tub operational and open? Hmmmmm??? Cheeky yes but fair that we expect modern up to date services for our site fees.

@1944rickc 21 день назад

ADA COMPLIANT

@DebbieReece-lg4iz 19 дней назад

Well said!

@sissinoklahoma2057 19 дней назад

Nice clap-back and I'm saving this in my head if it ever comes up! I can never think these things up on my own. Southern girl and my default is to Thank Someone even if they're rude to me. 🙄

@jh-mp8so 14 дней назад

You sound like a ten year old child.

@stephenscorzo 9 дней назад

I agree, I think that you should have access to their systems too. I can't imagine a nice 2025 model RV going into some RV Resort that has inadequate power that can overload their electrical, or powerful dirty water, all which I've encountered from some nice parks. I think things should work both ways. I ultimately think that pricing out RVers is a big mistake and will ultimately fail as a business plan because no one wants RVing to be like Gulfing. That and in modern times living in an RV is a viable survival option than homeownership for many young people or retirees (two common demographics).

@richshaffer985 21 день назад

Although one RV Park asked the age of our trailer, they never verified it during check-in. So our trailer will always be only 8 years old when making reservations. 😅

@JackWorkz 16 дней назад

Nice

@SandySez 15 дней назад

lol, that's exactly what crossed my mind while I was watching this. Even though it'll never apply to me, I have a 17' 1995 Roadtrek ... which I love. They can keep their snooty resorts and I'll keep my $$! Their loss. I'm a quiet, clean, respectful, low-maintenance camper lady.

@ksmith8793 15 дней назад

Why should you have to lie to get a place to stay?

@yeabuddy6070 13 дней назад

Yep. What that don't know can't hurt them.

@gunnysloan4103 12 дней назад

That's basically what I did with my Mini. When I made a reservation the motorhome was always nine years old.

@randymelissabutton2159 12 дней назад

Imagine if you bought a beautiful new RV, and you have finally paid it off after 15 years and you are told that it is too old to be used at a certain camp grounds.

@MaryBerryFancyFibers День назад

That’s going to be us 😢😢😢

@BuzzyBea 15 часов назад

Did you know that there are states that have counties where it is a county ordinance deciding the age of RV's allowed in RV Parks in that county. To keep their business license, they have to comply with the ordinance and not allow RV's over that age stated in the ordinance. I heard of this in the early 1990's. It's not a new thing. If county ordinances can do this, I have also wondered about the park insurance coverage. There may be terms in their insurance not allowing older RV's in the parks. Also, I know that some parks do not allow larger dogs because of insurance. If their insurance says no dogs over a certain weight, then the park has to comply. If their insurance says they can accept larger dogs, then there is usually breed restrictions on those larger dogs. These park owners can't go against their county laws, or against their insurance terms.

@Tsiri09 21 день назад

We RV'ers are all sick and tired of both sides of this issue. Some older RV's and some newer ones look like falling apart junk and should be in parks. Yes, I know that sometimes, (like mine), it's all we can afford, but I'm one of the many, many, many repairing and fixing mine up. I've heard "camp rules," "state law," "insurance," till my ears ache. No state I know has laws against 10 year old RV's staying in RV parks. SHARE the names of the RV parks. When we all start "going elsewhere" with our money, only then things will begin to change.

@jeffbyrd7976 21 день назад

Actually, California has begun implementation of Senate Bill 210. This law mostly effects commercial trucks, but it also applies to diesel pusher RVs like mine. And as you suggested, I have no intention of going into California again.

@christinef7739 21 день назад

@@jeffbyrd7976 The person you replied to didn't suggest not going to California, you brought that up. The ban is for semis and buses over 14,000 lbs and manufactured prior to 2010. It has to do with the amount of pollution in the air caused by these older, diesel vehicles, nothing to do with how they look. I don't understand why you're trying to conflate two separate issues.

@MakingMyAbodeOTR 21 день назад

Yes! Money talks

@judyross182 21 день назад

@@christinef7739 Either way, the policy is discriminatory.

@christinef7739 20 дней назад

@@judyross182 Either way what? I don't think you're following what jeffbyrd said. His comment doesn't have anything to do with the video.

@backwoodsarkansas9155 21 день назад

I think there needs to be a list posted on the internet so everyone can see. Those even with newer RVs might avoid too. This rule is totally discrimination.

@cashby1425 21 день назад

I agree and would add that if we all stuck together and avoided them because of their discrimination (and made it known that we were avoiding them), they might rethink their policy. I don’t think the policy is horrible but I think there should be photo exceptions like the examples you showed in your video. In an age of high debt families and being pressed from all sides, I don’t like that some rv parks are making this “”too old” policy

@GratefulGlamper 21 день назад

💯

@miketomas8564 21 день назад

YESSER! WE NEED A LIST.

@judyross182 21 день назад

@@penkac According to my calculations, 2003 is 21 years old.

@rosel368 20 дней назад

So what happens if a 16 yo rust bucket pulls up next to you and everything about them is bad news. Are you ok with that? I wouldn’t be. If the campground rejects one 16 yo camper but not another…. THAT’S discrimination! I’m being objective and considering the business owner’s position and the laws they are faced with. Thank you.

@1stTrickiwoo 12 дней назад

You're so totally correct. My hubby found a used class A that he wanted to purchase, but it was 9 years old. I told him we would only get to use it for one year before we'd be banned from most campgrounds, and I didn't see the sense in paying all that money for one year of use. It was a well maintained rig, but I didn't want the hassle of convincing campgrounds we were worthy to pay them money to camp!

@jasoncarpp7742 10 дней назад

I agree. It's hideous that there would be age restrictions for RVers to camp at campgrounds.

@pr0pman День назад

If you're not allowed into an RV park due to specific rules, find a park that welcomes your business without any issues. It's a free country, and parks can run their business as they see fit. Likewise, you can choose a place where you feel accepted and where your needs are met. Enjoy and keep on Rving

@NomadicLiving 21 день назад

I used to be an apartment manager for a very large national management company. We had to take classes on discrimination - and how to avoid it at all costs. Everyone must be treated the same. The only qualifiers were passing a credit and crimminal check. You could not be disqualified because you wore old clothes or had a classic car parked in the drive. My point is: One good discrimination lawsuit will take care of this nasty little problem; it's just a matter of time before some resort gets hit with a very expensive discrimination lawsuit.

@lhartwig2354 21 день назад

Do RV parks do credit and criminal background checks?

@greygoose4x46 21 день назад

Unfortunately I don’t believe that it would apply in this situation since the people are welcome but not their equipment … I don’t agree with these policy’s at all nor do I understand them New rv’s break and breakdown all the time so it’s not like they can make a valid claim of risking having one stuck on their site … maybe they are trying to avoid people abandoning old ones at parks ?!

@42raven42 21 день назад

What would be very entertaining, would be yearly visitors with the same rig who has been welcomed with open arms for several years suddenly being told that they are no longer acceptable. Needs to be someone with ties into the legal or justice system or the money and good friends of same. Kind of like the speed trap Village on the west side of Columbus Ohio, they finally pulled over the wife of a congress critter on the flimsiest of reasons. That community no longer exists, they were primarily making money off of traffic stops.

@judyross182 21 день назад

@@greygoose4x46 My guess is that at one time a junk RV broke down and the owners just abandoned it to the resources and cost of the park to remove it. There are some horrible-looking RVs parked in the trees that don't even look livable so I understand what the park owners are trying to avoid. If Charity and Ben don't do some research into this then we'll never know (from them) the reason. I asked them to interview the park owners and to find out what prompted this "rule."

@Milesco 21 день назад

Not all discrimination is illegal. It's not illegal to discriminate on the basis of an RV's age. So a lawsuit would not be successful. (Not saying I agree with this lousy practice -- I don't. Just saying that a lawsuit wouldn't go anywhere.)

@teressarenslow5992 21 день назад

First of all, I love the shirt you're wearing!! Our RV is less than 5 years old and if some campground asks us for the age of our camper we go elsewhere. Somebody needs to build a campground for nostalgic RVs or something.... You can't get in if your camper is newer than 5 years old? I absolutely love well kept nostalgic RVs! .... Those who own them should be able to show them off!

@EcoMouseChannel 21 день назад

That place already exists... it's called Quartzite Arizona 🤣

@WSallai 7 часов назад

I first encountered this 7-years ago in Pennsylvania. I was able to stay the winter, but was asked to leave in the spring. I was told no long-term spots were available for RVs older than 10-years old. I was told that it was for insurance reasons. I have a 1996 45-foot Newell Coach that is now worth about $85k, but when new it was $900k, that is a diesel pusher with no gas. It is an entirely electric coach except that it does have a heater that can use diesel if not plugged in. My old coach was worth more than half of the RVs at the park I was staying at. I asked if I could store it there and I was refused. I carry upper limits comprehensive & collision coverage and a $1M umbrella policy, and that did not matter. The place I was staying at is Oak Grove Park & Sales in Hatfield, PA. Another group that is restricted from entering RV Parks are the folks that have skoolies, school buses that are converted into RVs. The big problem with this restriction is that why would anyone buy one if the useful life is only 10-years? There would be no resale/trade-in value and if you bought one gently used (under 5-years old), you would a have limited time of use. The RV Manufacturers should be fighting this tooth and nail and parks that have this policy should be boycotted until they change their policy.

@sandraboyd7468 9 дней назад

My grandfather took meticulous care of his property. He owned one car in his lifetime. When he dies my two uncles drove the car from Massachusetts to Washington state while it looked like and ran like a new automobile.

@Tsiri09 21 день назад

Refusing RV's also affects the local economies. Fewer RV'ers means less money for the towns the parks and resorts are in. Business people need to think about that too.

@timdunn2257 21 день назад

They care about themselves, and nothing else. They would turn away Mary, mother of Jesus, if she were pregnant since "she's unsightly."

@rlreynolds1642 20 дней назад

I agree once we stop using these companies they will be forced to rethink their rule of age, how dare you refuse because I don’t want to be in debt… I will not go to these places even though mine is an 2018, because we have to stick together

@scottmichaels6854 19 дней назад

There are plenty of RVs. Nobody's business is being hurt. You guys are delusional to think that denying a few old RVs makes a bit of difference to a communities economy. The fact is, most people with older RVs are also much more frugal and spend less money in those communities.

@Comm0ut 15 дней назад

Individual RVs are not that valuable. Businesspeople who survive consider everything as they must.

@stephenscorzo 10 дней назад

RV Parks can be quite cruel. Some of them can kick you out because your door is too loud, something you can't fix easily or prove for that matter is you. I think we need legal representation and laws to protect RV owners from despicable RV Parks.

@jerrepetersen3860 21 день назад

For rv parks to have this ten year rule is just outrageous! My wife and my policy is screw them! We go elsewhere! We own a tiffin motorhome that’s ten years old but looks like the day we purchased it! My god these rv parks should be boycotted! Who’s going to start a website that begins the boycotts? Let’s name them All and pass it around!

@jimlynch9390 20 дней назад

It's been our experience that the age restricted campgrounds are usually the higher priced options, so we avoid them. While a boycott might deter some, elitests will want to go there to avoid us "trailer trash". I'd rather avoid those folks anyway.

@CakeBanditJr 20 дней назад

@@jimlynch9390100% what we do!

@scottmichaels6854 19 дней назад

Why are you so worried about a few parks that don't allow older RVs. There are plenty that do allow old RVs. KYD was just at an Airstream only RV park and I didn't see a single comment about how outraged other RVers were that they weren't allowed in to that park. Some restaurants require dress codes and they can deny you if you don't comply. What's the difference?

@georgewashington938 12 дней назад

it is EXTREMELY unlikely that I would ever stay in an RV 'resort', so it is very unlikely I would be negatively affected.

@Jennifer83881 7 дней назад

Thank you for doing this video & addressing this topic. I completely agree 💯%

@christophermichaels 21 день назад

I often roll into campgrounds after-hours and it’s never been a problem with I just set-up quietly in an empty spot, pay in the morning and then hit the road. About 15 years ago I rolled into a nearly empty one in South Carolina once that had the nicest landscaping and bathhouse I’ve ever seen. I climbed into my homemade camper that I was pulling with my vintage truck and was awakened at dawn by an unhappy security guard who informed me that campground was for “million dollar and up RV’s” and that I had to go. I offered to pay the nightly fee and he told me just to leave immediately before they towed me. Your content is great! Thank you!

@judyross182 20 дней назад

I'm in S.C. What was the name of THAT campground and where was it located?

@frankpeck1448 19 дней назад

Sounds to me like the Epitome of Snobbery! What's next, Demanding your RV is driven by a Uniformed Chauffeur?!!

@noodgenoodgerson2660 12 дней назад

Sheesh! And I bet they didn't even have the insight to be ashamed of themselves. I wonder how much that Security Guard's RV is worth?

@frankpeck1448 12 дней назад

@@noodgenoodgerson2660 Probably doesn't own one.

@gregg157 21 день назад

My wife and I own a newer travel trailer and I completely agree with you. So, when I am planning a trip, I try to only use State Park Campgrounds or COE Campgrounds and try not to use Independently owned Campgrounds.

@wolfwalker5924 7 дней назад

Thank you for this info. When I do decide to take our 1966 Caravel Airstream on the road, we go to a membership campground, I will make sure we avoid the age discriminating campgrounds. They're totally beneath our inclusionary mindset, and we aren't woke.

@johnhines3591 21 день назад

If they ask age, they don't get my money.

@suzannecranford6819 15 дней назад

This is an issue close to my heart as I am 74, and live in an RV, in an RV park. My reason is to live tiny, within decent distance from work (yes, I still work. I love my job and don't intend to retire.) My home is now 11 years old, I've owned it for going on 4 now. I want to keep living in this particular RV, I keep it well maintained, just like you would any other home, and don't want to replace it. I'm sure this will become an issue at some point. Thank you for this video and I hope that the discussion continues as time goes on.

@stephenscorzo 10 дней назад

This video kind of outlines the problems we face as full time RV owners. We don't quite have the same rights and protections as people who live in a brick and mortar apartment. It also affects people, a lot of people that our my neighbors are retired pensioners, people who have to migrate between jobs, and this would absolutely hurt them if they had pulled up and had been kicked out. It's a practice that I hope some legislation fixes, I think we need legal representation and a voice out there.

@suzannecranford6819 9 дней назад

@@stephenscorzo I agree.

@jerrydaniels30 5 дней назад

Within the last week I had been planning our stops for our annual trip from Middle Georgia to Michigan's UP. I try to change up where we stop for our overnights on the road each year. When I was looking this year, I came across a campground that said if your RV was over 5 years old you would have to send pictures before your reservation would be approved. I was surprised as typically I have seen many saying 10 years. I don't remember the campground but I passed on that one and reserved a nice looking with good reviews county park campground closer to our travel route.

@teresabullock6646 10 дней назад

We stayed at a resort in southern California last winter . They wanted photos of our trailer which was in excellent shape but a 2010 . When we got there was at least 25 units older then ours and one was painted by roller.

@mozandy 21 день назад

We have a 1965 Airstream Globetrotter. It’s beautiful and functional. Everywhere we go people come up to talk to me about it. They want to look inside and everyone loves it. I haven’t been turned down by an RV park for age yet, but I heard it could happen. I could have a new one, but ours is so cool, why would I?

@cnilecnile6748 21 день назад

Ferrari grade.

@GratefulGlamper 21 день назад

There is very little obvious differences between the vintage air streams and the newer ones!

@dancingmama6 21 день назад

Perhaps you should test a rv park that has an age restriction.

@alangeddes268 21 день назад

I am 76, my camper is 52. My little 13 foot Scotty is in better shape than when it was built. Many upgrades to better and safer equipment. I am on the road an average six days a month; one time recently a 31 day winter trip. My camper is in the most beautiful condition and the Vintage appeal is outstanding. I have been using and restoring these older campers for over 30 years and enjoy them greatly. Total investment on this one about $4000 for four plus years of use. Show me one of these modern vehicles that will still be around at that age. Only ever had one age problem but that went away after they really looked at it. If it passes all DOT requirements then that should be the only requirement. The problem is the RV snobs that don't feel they should have to be parked next to an older one. Campers use to be friendly, helpful and clean. I can't drive any more and am glad my time is over because the future for us looks sad. I wish you all smooth roads, great weather and a cozy camp fire. Go say Hi to the people on both sides of you.

@jasoncarpp7742 10 дней назад

I so agree. Safety and maintenance should be a concern, *not* the age of the RV. 🙂

@stephenscorzo 9 дней назад

I gotta 2000 winnebago and i've sunk in money on it. I think it's better to just look at the state of RVs rather than the age, because i've seen nasty newer ones too.

@robertw.1499 3 дня назад

I live in Germany, and this sort of discrimination would never be tolerated, and any RV park trying do do so (which they wouldn't dream of) would be sued out of the park. Only in America...

@marysaunders4041 2 часа назад

This is a very small problem for the VASTNESS of the great United States of America! A concept Germany did not get back in 1935 and it appears that you still don't get🤣! We have more unrestricted campgrounds than restricted; google it!

@browenkrans1384 2 дня назад

When I was younger I used to RV with my Grandparents in Oregon and never heard of this being a problem. Strange how things change when it comes to money and rules.

@commonsensepatriot9450 19 дней назад

My brother and nephew work in the RV industry. The new ones are absolute JUNK!

@lisagardner903 15 дней назад

I agree! Since the pandemic all of the rigs are poor quality.

@gopedmama 10 дней назад

Amen!! We have a 2022 (made in September 2021) Jayco Jay Flight SLX Baja. I guess we must have gotten the first one to be produced or it was used as a parts trailer. The solar wires were not run where they were supposed to be. We've had 2 recalls - one which we brought to their attention for an inverted flame on the burner while using the heater. Another was a propane tank valve. Now we found out their AC put in it is not placing the excess water outside the trailer but in-between the walls. Windows aren't sealed. And the whole frame is leaning. Thankfully we don't rely on going back to an RV repair location. My husband and I will fix it ourselves.

@dalebarton2321 21 день назад

We just got an older camper when my mom passed away we decided this would be a great way to honor her My belief this would be family time. THANK U for your video s

@Candanciee 12 дней назад

Couldn't stay in an RV park when we were in Boise, Idaho...they were all age restricted. Thankfully, someone offered to allow us to stay in their driveway while in Boise.

@dianedileonardo6353 2 дня назад

Thank you. This was very informative. I will definitely pass this information on.

@GratefulGlamper 2 дня назад

Glad it was helpful!

@dancoleman1269 20 дней назад

This is unbelievable. I was not aware of those restrictions. Makes me furious as I am new to RV'ing. Recently retired after a long professional engineering career. Having no family left (just me and my dog) I dreamed of traveling, exploring, and seeing the entire US. Learning now that my travel plans will be restricted because I bought an older RV (it's better than what I could have bought new for the same investment) is disillusioning to say the very least. Thank you for your video. It's enlightening.

@Joy-W777 21 день назад

I agree that someone should post a list of RV sites that have RV age restrictions. The consumer speaks loudly and I’d want to know.

@dddavis3442 5 дней назад

The rules have been adopted because too many people with older rigs show up and the engines are leaking oil and water tanks are leaking. If people don't take care of where they sleep, chances are they will leave a mess when they pull out.

@meltonsappliance 8 дней назад

Well for me having a five-year-old camper there is a simple solution for this problem. If an RV park ask me how old my camper is, I tell them how old it is and then I refused to stay at their campground because they asked me that simple question. If we would do this more often and refuse to stay at their campground because of the age. Eventually they will change their tune because they will run out of people that will want to stay there. Usually at these campgrounds I always see asking this question there is a golf course tied to it.

@user-wf5kr8pn6f 19 дней назад

Charity and Ben, Thank you for calling-out these ‘selective’ campgrounds. I agree with you 100%!

@larryfromwisconsin9970 21 день назад

I agree. My first experience with arrogant RV parks was when we were traveling with a brand new popup camper. "Sorry, only Class A motor homes allowed." Now we travel with a 10+ year old hybrid camper. It's in pristine condition with new decals and canvas. If they don't want our business, fine. Honestly we prefer military campgrounds but everyone can't do that. We also have large batteries and an inverter generator so we can boondock too. We have crossed the Country several times since I retired five years ago. Most campgrounds are 90+% filled with full-time residents. People are living in campgrounds, not travelling full-time but living in a camper stationary. In California and similar regions RV parks are always full so they can choose the big money customers and I can drive right by.

@cookingwithjesus 13 дней назад

I’ve snuck through those restrictions having an Airstream. I can tell them any year I want because they can’t tell.

@davecrabb6416 7 дней назад

Ran into this a few times over last 2 yrs with our 1992 Itasca Sunflyer. Excelllent condition with fresh polish and our only visible damage is a couple of places where our original decals have started to crack. Only 1 denied us after sending pics. Will be searching for places that welcome older units. People in those parks are so fun to talk to about older units and why won’t buy newer RVs, especially not ones made after 2021 better known as COVID RVs

@carolwilliams2356 21 день назад

My parents had an older Winnebago that they purchased used. My father was a mechanic so he had no doubt that he could keep it running. I am so glad that they did not experience this type of discrimination.

@dawudabuadam 21 день назад

You're not alone. I have a classic 1989 HMC Hawkins Motor Coach 31 foot Class A motor coach. It was $225,000 in the 1980's. It looks better than most of the newer ones in Parks and campgrounds. However, I finally found a great place. Thousand Trails RV Resort. The South Beach Oregon location will take a look at your rig and give you the okay or no. There's not a really strict policy here.

@purelightlove8888 3 дня назад

True Story here! In 2021 - I was asked what year my RV was, and I said; “why would that matter” and they (the RV Park Owner said) well we get dinged for renting spaces out to older RV’s by the powers that be… (got their dirty little fingers in every body’s pie…) This happened in Baker City, Eastern Oregon at 2 RV parks… Mt. View RV park & A Frame RV. (but it never happened to us when we were in Western Montana.)

@nancyday4824 3 дня назад

We restored a 1963 Airstream, that has now been all across the United States and Canada. Two years ago, we were heading home across Montana and wanted to stay at a KOA, which we have done many times. I called in advance to reserve a space, and happened to mention our RV was a 1963 Airstream (we are proud of our silver Twinkie) and was told we needed to send a photo prior to the reservation being confirmed; if it was deemed ok, she would call back. We did send the photo, but didn't hear anything for over an hour, so I called a different RV campground and made a reservation. The KOA called and said we could reserve, but I said I'd already gone elsewhere. The new RV resort never asked, was very fancy and we were camped in among some million dollar rv's. Had a good time. We had camped at this particular KOA several times but I doubt t we will again. It was at Missoula. This is the only time we had this issue, now we don't mention the age of our Airstream.

@arthadsock6810 21 день назад

I have a new cargo trailer that I made a camper out of it. It is two windows two doors air conditioning nice bed inside so they told me you can’t bring it there because it doesn’t have an RV nameplate on it from another manufacturer. My cargo trailer built stronger than any small trailers built. It built like a shark cage. Thanks David

@aboutmyfathersbusiness6907 14 дней назад

I'm going to build one myself, with all the problems and devastating hardship people are having and crap quality, I'm going to do it myself and have a 98% or more problem FREE rig that won't be in the shop for 6 to 8 months that I can fix any problem I may have myself....... And not spend an arm and a leg 🦵 for repairs

@VaaiChristyPapalii 19 дней назад

The Retreat at Shady Creek is like this. They have a FIVE year limit on their rigs. It’s over $1,000 a month. Our RV is 6 years old and very very clean and better looking than half of the rvs in there. We were refused entry. I talked to local residents and they said just say it’s newer than that, but I didn’t want to lie and quite honestly give them a dime of my money because of their restrictions and rudeness. We stayed closer towards Dallas and loved it much more.

@VaaiChristyPapalii 19 дней назад

The Retreat at Shady Creek is In Aubrey, TX, just north of Dallas

@baddestmofoalive 4 дня назад

I get the rule’s spirit; and I have NO PROBLEM at all with sending in pictures of my rig to show its well maintained and clean. I’ve stayed in campgrounds that let ANYONE come, and I’ve seen more than one run-down, dilapidated and abandoned RV’s with ratty tarp roofs and half rotten plywood windows surrounded by half torn apart dirt bikes, random bicycle parts, and junk kitchen appliances. I’ve also found these “neighbors” snooping around my rig at night. There’s a certain hard-drug using element that these rules keep out, and that’s a good thing for the safety of our families and security of our property. What’s ridiculous, however, is a zero-tolerance 10 or 15 year rule. There should always be exception made if you maintain your rig and send in photos. Especially with how awesome retro/restored vintage rigs are and solidly built older rigs are.

@joecummings1260 6 дней назад

I had an older friend back in the 80's that had a restored airstream and belonged to some kind of airstream club. It seemed like having the oldest well kept or restored airstream was like having bragging rights in that club. Some of them even had restored 1950's cars and trucks that they pulled them with. I thought it was cool as hell.

@Buzz-sb1pj 19 дней назад

The first campground I tired to get into asked me what the year of my rig was then told me no because it was too old. I ran into two more like that in the Tacoma area of Washington. One was Rainier View RV park and the lady told me that they just adopted the ten year rule and while I may see some rigs that are older than ten years old, once they leave they can't come back. Quite frankly, the very few in the Tacoma area that didn't have age restrictions were RV ghettos. A lot of parks I've looked at plainly state age restriction apply. I don't hate on them over it, I just move on but my rig is outfitted for boondocking with solar so I could care less if they want me in their park or not. Full hookups is a nice luxury I enjoy occasionally but I don't have to have it. I've asked about the reason for age restrictions and they said it was because, for one, there's some serious ghetto rigs running around and I can understand that because I've seen them. We're not talking about nice, well taken care of rigs. I've seen rigs such as a Class C with the entire cab over area duct taped. A lot of older rigs have roof issues and when it rains they cover the roof with any tarp they can find. It makes the whole park look ghetto. Now you're on vacation for a few weeks and have your kids with you and the park put next to a rolling crack house, what are you going to think? Age restrictions also means they can charge more for a site. Where I used to use the dump station I sked what they get for a site and they told me $85 a night. I choked and that was about 4 years ago. This place in Ventura, California was right next to highway 101 and that highway gets noisy. Another reason I've been given for age restrictions is rigs older than 10 years old tend to break down more often than those that are less than ten years old. I know, I know, not My rig but they're just going with the numbers like insurance companies do. They don't want their vacationing guest, or any other guests, having to hear someone working on their rig. Finally, if they use an arbitrary reason such as X years old then they can dodge the discrimination bullet. They don't have to justify why they didn't want to rent a site to you in particular. There's no racial, religious, sexual identity, or any other members of the protected classes they have to fear if they don't rent them a site. They just say they have RV age restrictions, no matter who you are. I can understand a lot of their rationale even though it may not apply to me but that's life and I just move on. If they don't want me then fine, I don't want to be where I'm not wanted anyhow. I hope all this helps understand their point of view.

@stephenscorzo 9 дней назад

Even at that, it kind of creates RV classes where there shouldn't be. I think that it punishes people for trying to find a viable economical choice in these hard times to live in. It's kind of like if you have a neighborhood of people who are black and Hispanic, and you want to keep them out of your neighborhood by doing something like checking credit or looking at names on the applications and deleting them because they're Hispanic. Yes I see their point of view, but if this isn't resisted or fought against, this can impact the ecosystem of RV Traveling. As it is, I think we don't have as many protections as someone who lives in a apartment does.

@tedwalford7615 8 дней назад

@@stephenscorzo True; but the level of rent charged for an apartment in a high-end building in a prime location also perpetuates class divisions. Home prices in the best neighborhoods keep out the poor and even the middle class. It's the way the world works.

@retiredwithwood6586 21 день назад

Charity it’s not about a persons net worth. It’s about squatters that come in with old RV’s and make a mess of others property and make it hell to get rid of. The sad part is it ruins it for everybody else. So new rules have to be put in place to help protect property owners. How about making a video pointing out the issues park owners deal with on a daily basis?

@CANADIANWARRIOR-il6rt 20 дней назад

THAT LITERALLY HAS NEVER HAPPENED AT AN RV PARK. NO NEED TO LIE TO JUSTIFY YOUR DISCRIMINATION.

@kjFL1 20 дней назад

@@CANADIANWARRIOR-il6rtNot that I agree with retiredwithwood, but how can you possibly know this has never happened at an RV park? Seriously? Have you polled every single RV park to validate your statement? Geesh!

@kristenj3517 19 дней назад

Or maybe our legislators need to review their squatter laws... in houses and campgrounds that protect the property owners.

@jeromep 19 дней назад

@@CANADIANWARRIOR-il6rtleft coast states have created a Pandora’s box of terrible landlord/tenant law which gives tenants and squatters more rights than the landlord. For law to work a couple things have to occur. The law has to be fair, meaning neither party in a dispute has more rights than another. The law has to be enforceable and enforced. Meaning that it needs to be something which action can be taken on and such that law enforcement does their jobs and enforces the law. The law has to be simple, all the affected parties need to be able to read and clearly understand the law and how it impacts them. As it currently stands, where landlord/tenant law creates a situation where tenants have more rights and the law allows them to become squatters, that is where people need to be demanding of their legislators changes to law. Otherwise, landlords find themselves in a position where the law doesn’t give them a fair shake, so they have to hedge to protect themselves from the unscrupulous.

@corinnepolocko1370 18 дней назад

So only people with RVs older than 15years could be squatters? Someone with one 14years, 9years, or 5years can't be? The bottom line is if this is the rationale then assumptions are being made about the "type" of people with older RVs. People who would do things like that are going to do it regardless of how old their camper is.

@silverkiss37 День назад

The guy that owns the land I rent on restores vintage trailers. I cannot imagine a campground not letting one of those beauties stay. Dumb.

@stevecorner5069 2 дня назад

Years ago we were rejected from an RV resort in our near new RV because it was too small! I tried to explain to them that my money was the same size as that that the bigger RV’s have but they wouldn’t accept that argument.

@Lauralietx 21 день назад

I agree not the kind of park I want to be in!! I like to see cool older RVs!! Discrimination of the worst kind!! Age !!

@hillrodfilms5262 17 дней назад

Even though my camper is only one year old, I refuse to go to places like that because I hate the snobby attitude

@stephenscorzo 9 дней назад

Yeah, that's what it's really about. Rich folks getting away from the places they voted for. Trying to turn RVing into Golfing, pricing out people that actually need the RVs to live and get by with.

@toddmiller6104 5 часов назад

I solved the problem. I simply give a mfg date that is within their "acceptable range". Issue solved! Several have commented "What a beautiful rig you have. That must have cost a fortune at today's prices!". I simply smile, say Thank You, and drive on to my assigned site.

@ashleyaucoin1293 13 дней назад

There is always a reason for a rule like this, they are trying to keep the rift raft out. I wouldn’t want to be camping near someone in a dilapidated camper and smell their sewage during my stay.