The Uncertain Future of the iPad. 

Do you guys use an iPad at all? I do still have my 2018 model but I gravitate towards my MacBook, almost every single time. Let me know! If you do use an iPad alongside the Apple Pencil, do give Paperlike a try - paperlike.com/zoneoftech_PL21. It's my favourite for taking notes. Completely changes the experience!

As an illustrator, the I-Pad has become an indispensable part of workflow. Just wish it would give us more power. The ultimate would be a desktop Mac with I-pad touch screen functionality - you could tilt the screen and use it as a giant desktop drawing space. This would be so nice + would also probably put Wacom out of business.

The iPad mini is very useful. If you’re in retail sales or in a doctors office, they tend to have one of those because they’re easier to carry around.

Ive always like the iPad mini over the larger ones simply because I commute on my bike, rather carry a small iPhone in my pocket and when a bigger screen is needed the Mini comes in very handy and portable in any pack I am using and usable anywhere without draining a lot of attention.

The iPad mini has it‘s usecase in aviation. I expect actually an M on it and a little increase in size. Pilots run interactive maps with different overlays, like traffic and weather on it. So the power is needed.

I use both pro’s and I just got the mini. The mini is perfect for casual use. I love it for reading, watching you, and movies. They shouldn’t get rid of the mini at all.

I think they want to cater to artists now. M2 iPad is a proof of that, and if they go bigger then they can start to sell to art studios and later on to animation studios. But the messy line up might just be them figuring out what an average customer wants. I think IPad 10 is an experiment to see if they can sell more of them or the Air ones.Just my opinion)

If you are not a designer, iPad is basically a big display to watch RU-vid videos.

The mini has a definitive place. The portability is far superior for travel - business or otherwise. For stills and video creators, having a full pwered transfer and edit device that fits in our equipment bag is essential. It also is a great entry way into the Apple ecosphere for those that want to retain non-Apple smartphones and laptops.

Just bought an iPad mini for my kid to use and am thinking of getting one for myself to use in my job as a teacher. The form factor is the biggest selling point as neither myself or my kid needs lots of performance, but portability is really helpful.

I have an iPad mini and really love the form factor, it's just the right size for media consumption in video and reading taking quick notes etc. very portable. I hope they keep a model in that size in the lineup!

If the OLED screen can't go pass 400 nits that's a huge problem. I agree too many iPad lineup. I totally support the larger 14" & 16" screen upgrade. Only if the customers notice the difference between the Mac book and Ipad spec then they'll choose the cheapest one (price is a factor vs benefits). A wireless power bank together with a wireless phone is a perfect match made for each other (it eliminate inconvenient cable management while traveling).

The more I’ve been hearing about the two new iPads, the more I’m thinking that Apple is trying to test whether people like the smart connector on top or the landscape camera better. The next iPad Pro will likely include the more popular option.

They should just turn the iPad mini into a foldable phone

16” version would be instant buy, for creative usage and would compete with Wacom solutions - so would love it

I love the mini! it is perfect for reading and taking notes.

Can I have a link to those wallpapers, please? They look amazing! 🤩

I have sold my 2018 iPad Pro. I'm getting out, and staying out of that product line until there is a clear vision for these devices.

I only use my iPad for media consumption and some light gaming. Sometimes will use it for some documentation like pages and numbers (connected to a 3rd party keyboard)

I agree if they decide to discontinue iPad Air or change it to be baseline iPad. Mini should be in line, size should be an option like both 11'" and 12.9" Pro. 3 model of iPad, mini, base and Pro, good to go!

For me its IPad Pro, I love the versatility it gives me as both a pad and computer all in one

I would definitely go for a 15" or even 16" iPad Pro over a MBP. I am currently holding off for one of those really expensive european M2 12.9" iPad Pros. ( Damn, that keyboard is outrageously expensive..) I push my 2018 model pretty hard, and I never liked laptops. My ideal setup is a Studio Max or even better_ a backPack-friendly MacMini Pro with +32gb RAM , and the biggest screen iPad Pro model. Prices are always high with Apple products....but when you find your ideal products you save your money, and go for them. Thanks for the video, ;) Cheers from Portugal

I got the iPad for client use with operational benefits to include keynote presentations with iPhone control or vice versa.

I live in belgium and the ipad 2022 is being sold for €700 for comparison the ipad air 5 is being sold for 750-800 and the air 4 for less then 600

I got sucked in the whole "what is a computer" pitch in 2018. I still wound up getting a new MBP in 2021. Now I would not buy a new iPad Pro even if they did come out with a dual boot model that would run MacOS and iOS.

I just want a 27 inch imac replacement.

I’ve had two IPads since they came out and honestly I love it because I find it so much easier to use then the MBP that my husband has and I definitely love the touch screen and that I can use apps easier. I now have a 32GB 10.2 and I am very happy with it. I am not an artist nor do use it for work it’s, it’s for personal use.

Yes, I do use my 11” M2 iPad Pro (just switched out from my prior M1 11” with the right-hand strip dead) much, much more than my M1 14” MBP. It’s lighter, more manageable and has a touch screen and, yes, I use the Magic Keyboard almost all the time when using my iPad. Apple, just get with it and either make the MBP with a touch-screen or port the full MacOS to the iPad. My preference? Port MacOS to the iPad Pro.

I can see why an illustrator or photographer would use the iPad Pro for productivity, but let’s be honest. The rest of us use it for watching videos and maybe email. It’s a big waste of money.

The main problem is that the MacOS currently doesn't support touch input which is a absolute necessity for an iPad

I'd say that having proper external display support would be a pretty big reason to upgrade.

I think I have the best of both worlds, an iPad mini 6 for content consumption and a recently acquired MacBook Air M2 (they finally went on sale!).

Can you provide a link to all those wallpapers?

I have 2018 model and it’s a great ipad even after 4 years

But if they have the pencil on the side, it’s either gonna block the speakers or the charging port. It would be nice if they at least put another camera on the opposite side so that if you have it in landscape, it will unlock with Face ID but I guess that might be too expensive or something because whenever I have it in landscape, it never reads my face unless I move my face to the left. OK maybe if it’s like in a perfect position but sometimes you’re a little bit off to the side and you can’t open it and that’s kind of frustrating and a lot of times I’ll just put in my code instead of moving my face over.

I was thinking of getting an I pad but because of the limitations in the software and price I’m going with the surface pro 9 instead

One more thing: it would be totally radical if Apple made the iPad Pro case just a bit larger to house the apple pencil "inside the case" and then sell the pencil with the iPad Pro. I know some people don't use the pencil so perhaps make it an option (though, i don't know why anyone would not use the writing feature on an iPad...I mean, why get an iPad then?

The only think I want is to clear if the ipad will get the mac os or mac will get in tablet mode. If pad will get an update os then will it be only for M1 M2 or for all chip?

I just finished grad school using an iPad Pro 4th generation with a Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil as a laptop set up. However, in the end, I did need to buy a MacBook because the iPad was not compatible with certain exams I had to take in class. However if it weren’t for that I would have been fine with that set up. However, now that I am done and have a MacBook, the iPad Pro Magic Keyboard set up was not convenient anymore so I just traded in my ipad pro magic keyboard setup for an ipad air 5th generation. This allows for more portability and still let me use my apple pencil.

Yeah with new iPad line up it's so, SO confusing tbh...I hope they simplifies this but, I have suspicion Apple will extend this confusion even more, in the future....

For me, and I think most people who just need something to do the basics, I think the iPad is perfect. I agree there are too many though. My ideal line up would be the Mini, the Air (10") and the Pro (12.9" only). The others are just....unnecessary. My Pro has been my daily driver for a few years now. I don't plan up on upgrading until a more MacOS experience is available in iPad OS.

I love my ipad pro m1 and I would never like to see this device bigger than 12.9 inch, maybe a bit different aspect ratio for video content. That said I would adore to have a proper OS on a pro device because this thing is expencive and it should not be downgraded in any way comparing to lap tops. For my main computer I will allways go with windows machine that has a dedicated gpu. So 16 inch ipad is riddicules, most people love this device because its portable and sleek, just give us a proper operating system for the money we are paying.

I support & buy Refurbished ! They work great and I happen to love the classic design. I’m actually watching this video on an iPad Mini 2 ( white bezel ) Now that’s classic 😎👍❤️

Hey zoneoftech big fan❤ should i buy i pad mini 6 or i pad 10th generation …. Thank you❤

I had an Ipad air hated it and stopped it for a 4k player, then got a Samsung tablet that just gathered dust. Now it's my s22 ultra as my tablet and macbook pro m1 for thr other stuff.

I'm back in the market for a new iPad, as my old 2017 iPad Pro has been taken over by my daughter and I'd like a larger screen than my phone to get some stuff done. Then I look at the latest offerings. 🤦🏻‍♂ Can't believe they have so many models with frustrating features and differences; the device is still hampered by iPad OS; and the prices are stupid. Ugh.... I'll probably just hold off again.

Need 9” pro mini with little to no bezel around screen an 5.5mm thick so nice an light for holding in one hand

If Apple essentially uses the full IOS operating system on their tablets like the surface pro this should be more than enough. I can’t see them dropping the actual device to be honest I work with students and the university and they make up the larger percentage of IT users

Seems like all the problems stem from the fact that tablets were supposed to be consumption devices but the more powerful they make them they basically become replacement computers something they would never supposed to be.

Agree that there isn’t any reason to upgrade from a 2018 iPad Pro. My 2018 iPad Pro 12.9” (512GB, cellular) has run for hours a day for the past 4 years. The battery is slowly dying, but I can replace that for about $100.

MacOS on iPads should work like Samsung DeX on their tablets with a very smooth and fast dual boot system.

I hope they improve the mini more 😢

Aspect ratio is the only reason I'm looking at iPad. Not very impressed by them beyond that. But aspect ratio is really important to me

I’d buy a 16in iPad Pro easily over a MacBook. I edit on the iPad and love it. I now only use my MacBook for hard drive organizing.

Daniel, I think Apple should keep the IOS system only on iPhones and bring macOS to the Ipad. This is the only way to save the iPad. If the iPad continues with the IOS, the future of the iPad will be even more confused and lacking in professional software.

If iPadOS doesn’t evolve, the future of the iPad is bleak. Mark my words.

i feel liek they are going to make a macos lite kinda thing were it replaces stagemanager. it jsut makes sense. it probaably will have a lot of compatability problems tho.

What they need to do is merge Mac OS and iOS into a single platform that is a touch screen version of of Mac OS and run this on MacBooks with touch screens and the iPad can be a detachable keyboard like a Samsung Note or Microsoft Surface Pro 9 this would be the best option and very easily achievable

I don’t have an iPad, I did have the original iPad Pro but since got rid of it. I am always looking at iPads. But. Like you said there’s no distinguishing features between them and for that reason I can’t choose which one to get. I’d look a mini for portability but my iPhone is close in size to it. I don’t see the point in the base iPad or the air because of there price I think your better off with the pro but then it’s a hell of a lot of money

I think apple was trying too hard to convince us that the iPad could replace the computer. Even if it ever does it’s probably gonna be like a surface and expensive af because it has to he better than the MacBooks because it’s more versatile and portable

Touchscreen PCs are already affordable, and except for the conspicuous consumption desire to be seen using Apple devices, it's hard to understand why someone would want to pay for fewer features and less gaming compatibility.

I agree with your comments about the cost of the iPad when compared to the MacBook. I have a 2020 iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard that I chose over the MB; the iPad Pro is my only mobile computing device. I would be happier with future generations of the iPad Pro if it could fun the full MacOS. In my case though I could easily use the iPad for all my computing needs simply because I am retired. But for whatever it’s worth I think the continued improvement of the iOS is very important even if it impacted MacBook sales. Since I don’t work for Apple this is easy for me to say.

What I want and would buy would be a 27" ipad (stationary obviously), so in other words a drawing tablet :) It can be 4k USD just like new Wacom, I'm ok with that- but yeah, I'm a "pro" which means this would be my tool for drawing / animating.

In think the merge is going to happen, and maybe you’ll be able to easily switch between them.

Between an iPad Pro and MacBook (ignoring price) I would say an iPad because I’m of the younger generation and more used to touchscreens. However, I would need a keyboard. Couldn’t manage without one

Ipad pro with macos and I’m ditching my pc/laptop forever.

Apple better do something great with the iPad Pro next year or I might start looking at other options

I never understood why people are asking for more more more productivity on tablets. Tablets at their core are more for consuming content (unless you are an artist, but even then dedicated tools and software would get the extra oomph) rather than creating it.

What I don’t get is why so many RU-vidrs spend so much time complaining about the iPad. Clearly it is a device not targeted at them. It is a device targeted at a different class of user. While the iPad is certainly a versatile device with the ability to do about 80 to 90% of what anybody needs, someone who produces video for living, day in and day out, would best be served by a Mac. It’s like automobile drivers complaining about motorcycles. Just as with iPads and Macs, there are motorcycles that cost as much and more than automobiles, and obviously, those motorcycles are not targeted at minivan owners.

A variety of solutions: * Dual-Boot * Tablet mode + Desktop mode (see Android tablets which already do this except desktop would be MacOS lite). This option could be dynamic while running the OS so more practical than dual-boot * VM option: M1/M2 plus enough RAM could run a lite-MacOS. This is probably the solution they will use. There's even a WIn11 "mini or core" that runs on 2GB ;-) Btw the MacOS currently does support touch and the UI is larger to do this more easily if you see it in use on shared screens.

I have replaced 90% of my workflow to my iPad, give me full external monitor support and it’s done. Full transitions.

The iPhone 14 pro has an OLED screen with high nits and even always on function. So what is the problem?

I love my iPad Pro M2. It’s probably the best thing I’ve ever purchased, I use it more than my MacBook for most things.

I absolutely love my M1 iPad Pro, but that is mainly because I use Apple Pencil alot, and do a lot of sketching/notes taking/markup comments at work. Only problem is, app development is seriously lacking. Despite having a sound/powerful hardware, there's almost nothing heavy to utilise from there. So I actually think having M2 there is totally a waste, unless they do something about the app.

Because I'm using the iPad without a keyboard, a MacBook is not really an alternative. I use my iPad for surfing, reading, gaming, movies, painting.. and yes, I'm waiting for the "pro" Apps from Blackmagic or hopefully FCP for iPadOS. I use my iPad in situation where a MacBook is not really suitable for me. I just bought the 2022 iPad Pro 12.9 to replace my 2018 iPad Pro 12.9. And I think the bigger upgrade for the iPad Pro comes with the M3.

It would be nice to see macOS on the iPad M series. Think the Microsoft Surface Book. The keyboard of a mac can have all the IO ports and an extra battery. When the iPad is undocked from the keyboard it works as an ipad. When docked to the keyboard it boots into full MacOS. 2nd option is a refresh IpadOS software for the 12.9" ipad . There is soo much wasted space on the home screen between apps. The UI needs an overhall.

What’s the background music in the beginning?

actually I am struggling about which pad to get ? The price of the pro feels to high for 'just' a tablet. I have a Mac that i do dedicated work on, but i want something more portable for video-editing but also for drawing. The Air is pretty much like the '11' pro but with less cams and the M1 instead of the M2 and no 120hz. This is so hard to decide. I swing towards Air just because of the price-gap. Or maybe i'll wait for a next Gen Air?........

A 14 inch iPad with MacOS option and Magic Keyboard, that is an instant yes from me. I hate my MacBook and love my mini and 11 inch iPad and would love to develop iOS applications using Xcode on a big screen iPad. The advantage of Tablets are the excessive options for input: camera, pencil, touchscreen, keyboard, trackPad, speech Also the connectivity is great with cellular versions. You cannot really use google maps on a MacBook.

I have an iPad 7th gen and I don’t use it quite often

That would be perfect: a fully-fledged OS on the iPad with no compromise. I don’t see the point having a MacBook Air AND the iPad, considering that the latter could perfectly replace the first. To a larger extent, perhaps a high performance iPad Pro could even replace the MacBook Pro. And the iMac (which would become just a dock with a huge screen for the iPad. 😊

I am really disappointed that we didn’t get the function row keys on the magic keyboard for the iPad Pro. Apple could have easily done that without increasing much price.

Strangely apple isn’t very confident on what they wanna do with the ipad. Unlike w/ macos they are forcing this ios ui integration, not good but they are confident so its kinda works

It would be great if you could switch back and forth between MacOS and iPadOS. MacOS because it would give iPad access to Apps only available to MacOS like WoW :). And iPadOS because so much development on it and it's quite good relative to other tablet OSs. So if you could reboot into one or the other, that would be totally cool man.

Mini won’t discontinue a niche market that will continue to buy…. And Air will too just will not have fast chip or better screen as Pros….

I think its hard to change because they still make too much money and its still is a great device for average cosumers. but I wish for macOS bootcamp, and then i will upgrade from my iPadpro11 2018.

Apple could implement a MacOS experience on an iPad with a Rosetta type app. iPadOS has always been extremely limited for everyday use.

I would love Mac OS on a iPad, it would give the surface a run for it’s money.

The mini is in demand from airlines and couriers because of its size I think it will stay

I don’t use computers. I’m old. I love my 12.9 iPad. When a bigger screen iPad comes out I’m buying it I may have to get less GB tho

I think it’s high time we all accept the fact that the iPad is an assistive device for your laptop. As someone using an M1 iPad and a 16” M1 MacBook Pro, my iPad is what I use if I want to work away from my desk. I don’t even want MacOS on my iPad even, Stage manager is just fine from a UX standpoint. IMO

dude the wallpapers?? i want !

The Air is perfect for me. M1 plus 256GB is really all I need and that comes cheaper than the Pro which honestly doesn't justify the price difference.

The whole problem with the iPad line up bloat is that they are trying to make the iPad a laptop replacement which it is not and never will be it will at best and should just supplement a laptop not replace it. The best move imo is to make a foldable MacBook with iPad touch interfacing and Apple Pencil support but I don’t know if Apple will do that. I think the iPad Mini is actually a good product in that it fits the niche that an iPad/tablet is supposed to that being a in between a phone and a laptop as far as portability. The iPad Mini’s ability to take it out of a bag and be able to hold in one hand write/draw/interact with the other, as well as being able to comfortably hold in 2 hands is a highly underrated feature. I think the 8”-10” range is perfect for that. Once you start to get into the 11-12.9” range you might as well get a small laptop bc you kinda get the worst of both a laptop and a tablet at that point as far as portability as well as price to power to use ability ratio. 8-10” fill in that classic paperback book/sketchbook/notepad size that the iPad is really meant to replace, because imo the iPad form factor is optimal for things like light productivity, note taking, reading content consumption, gaming, etc. .

Maybe just a silly thaught but what about macPad with larger display and MacBook Air Pro with higher frequency display etc…

Stage manager is mostly useless for me bc of how much wasted space there is and the stupid inability for iPadOS to play more than one media with audio at a time. 2 media items can maybe play only if one is muted, it’s such a stupid limitation

I just decided to spec a 16” MBP M2 Mx with 8TB SSD, 64 GB RAM, as not even the 12.9 iPad Pro has a screen good for my eyes. People often overlook the plethora of disabilities regular looking folks may suffer from. Aphasia, myopia, industrial deafness, etc.

Honestly, apple is shooting in its own leg because of this confusion about all those various forms of crazy decisions they made in ipads … it leads to, in my case, NOT knowing which new one to buy and therefore stay with my old one … I assume I am not the only one in that position right now 😮

I’m honestly tired of Apple holding back their products so you spend more money. A lot of these have competitors with mature products that serve dual purpose. For ex. I just got a Surface Pro and I saved $600 instead of having to get a Ipad and a Mac. And with Apple releasing its software on PC it makes less and less sense to go with Apple. Eventually I think Apple will have to release a hybrid device running Mac OS. Software wise to be fair Mac OS would be horrid using touch. Touch point would have to be redid for alot similar to the issues Windows has had. I think Apples Ipad line up is overcrowded but I disagree the Air isn’t needed. If anything I think the Pro line up should consist of a 11.5”, 12.9” and 14.1” and if they updated the hardware could price them a little hire making the Air a true mid tier device. And maybe then they could even offer 128gb as the standard with the Pro line going with 256gb storage

@4:42 See, this is a problem: I am on the market for a tablet that I can put a keyboard on and use as a laptop - I am replacing a Surface 3 device. An iPad is currently a very, very good option but it's painful to see that for the price of a 12.9" Pro + Keyboard, as you say, I can buy a fully fledged Mac book! But the Mac book lacks that simple tablet functionality which I do want, so the Surface 3 might end up being replaced by a 2 in 1 laptop like the Asus flow X13: This can be used as a tablet due to the 360 folding screen, has a dedicated RTX3050Ti so it pisses performance all over the place and it ends up being cheaper than the iPad...