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The underlying code of the Universe - a fascinating interview with Stephen Wolfram 

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@bardwessel4663
@bardwessel4663 9 месяцев назад
It's surprising that equations including "the mass of the soul" should come to be presumed to have solutions resting solely on the disappearence of "the soul" as a term and a phenomenon of relevance. One would have thought, at least, that "that which may not be measured" being for long associated with phenomenons somewhat simular to "that which along with breath is experienced to nurish identity" (depending on whereabouts, or other verb including expressions related through time) should not as easily get exchanged with purely measurable masses to the extent of presuming that computers, what ever content, by the means of what ever loads of computational buildups should be brought to represent experiensing beings, much to the point of future actualisation of own rights as individuals. Is one possibly not completely lost to this world for presuming that measurable mass has come to possess a questionable position amongst us, and if so, wouldn't that have to be conditioned on certain presumptions about our relationships to the presumably outdated "soul" that one know little of, neither what eventually true conditions for birth of the term concerns, or of others relations to this concerns? How ever little that "missing something" may make way for the relevance of this, there's at least the development of Chat GPT and simular AI related ware to consider, that amazingly easily has not only come on weak terms to involve questions related to intelligence, but worse, to reveile a level of exchanging a sound image of intelligence with measurable abilities relating to speed of computation that there's no wonder that no time remains for the explenation of the value of computing machines to begin with. As of today, the fact that a. neural networks, to begin with, handles thousands of various units, be they single data, cells/points/dots/expressions/points etc., while the human count of simularly handled subjects of attention is limited to a comparably very small fraction, allthough relative to attention and focus, this fact may of cause not ever serve claims configured much as if contains the software at all unknown subjects of attention or unexpected outcomes of computations, then this may somehow, amazingly enough while associated functions / "random" is part of it, be unrelated to the assembling partys. Through one a stone into the unknown, then one didn't, as one knows not what it hit? Such acts, no doubt, says nothing against new data and new methods the likes along with new understanding comming out of AI, what ever one might think about introduction of the term and of being an idiot for having second thoughts about the act. What's to the much further problematic, is the enterance of identity completely irrelevant of concience, because this represents a main cause behind most of the many main issues that are not receiving much attention, still, massive developments what measures of attention concerns despite. It seems much unneccessary fuzz considered that the most important factor to protect and to make way for presently is actually not at all as I see it mostly "the soul" or other not any longer used terms like "the spirit" what ever parts of reality they appear in parts to have been parts of protecting, but rather that which prevents people from to larger extents take the liberty to make use of expressions including "what you think ..." or even "what they think ... (or want/wishes/attempts etc.)", which involves indeed as phenomenon "concience possessing identities being ignored", not the least by being spoken for by to themselves unknown identities along with a whole range of substituting factors that much measuring despite leaves presently not only room for including measurable masses as identities but indeed also for excluding as identities people on account of what's not only the presently lost "soul", or perhaps, for all I know, even soul as reality above what the term would once indicate, situation concidered. There are manners about that to an obviously renewed extent leads to exclusion on surprisingly few measures counted, and there's seemingly very little serving to counter this by including now strictly countable objects as machines as were these possessors of identities. Surely there are expressions about not to waste time on protesting. But for instance "You will not much count to summations what these machines are concerned," I'm afraid, will not much serve as soultions to what to some of us counts even to the point of counting as measurable issues above what at all must even include infinity, point being that much of what's sorting on various paths to infinity shouldn't by exchange with sorts of handled infinity alone as reasons come to get outsorted as irrelevant sorts of infinity, particularly not while the relavance of energy expenditure, for instance, calls for each and every individual taking part as energy consuming beings what ever biological measures may still be about to the responsible measures. No doubt effective means of identification and mapping represents what one must have, amongst contributions of unmeasurable values. Which is why new creatures to keep alive above what consumtion should have to demand represents to me an odd choice. There's a minimum to concider, and what ever gratitude belongs to Stephen Wolfram for contributing to understanding of reality in general, understanding also that there are too many unmeasurable parts of biologically conditioned organisms still to begin adjusting reality on the terms by people claiming to experience machines as sentient individuals for merily appearing as humans in a much superficially conditioned world, that calles for responsibility suiting our time, even by measures.
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 8 месяцев назад
Free will has not been proven scientifically, and as Wolfram says, consciousness is really only a feeling and something we presume others have, both also not proven or even defined in any meaningful way. To believe humans possess some unique form of consciousness, which isn't just an emergent phenomenon, from the pure mechanical processes in the brain, is beyond science, is not science. The Human brain is neither as unique or mysterious as some would like to believe.
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