That's funny. We've been hearing about this for 50 years on Network TV without even trying. Probably became a re-run even before Chariots of the Gods first came out.
was just going to comment on the same thing, and saw your comment..upvoted many times..damn tight that was irratating..and i was just getting into the story..hope he learns from this..
My late father was a crew member on one of the 2 Martin PBM Mariners that went out to search for Flight 19. The other PBM didn’t make it back. A cargo ship reported an explosion in the air, my father said it was probably an explosion from gas fumes that had built up in the fuselage. The PBM he was in had the same problem. All he could do was pray that there was no errant spark on board. BTW my father thought the planes flew farther out to sea.
I've heard of this story before. Spacial disoriented and the inability to work with the rest of the flight was the explanation I'd heard. Still a great story. I enjoyed this version very much.🛩️
Exactly. Not believing his instruments. Thats one of the fundamental things the drill into you from day one. And there’s basically 2 of everything. As a backup and it only takes one person especially with a higher rank to lead all astray. And if you break off and use your instincts and instruments but you could ruin your career if you’re wrong and die if you trust him. Crappy situation each choice is not good. And I worked on a fishing boat in New England for 20 and the clouds example that he was pointing out is totally correct you notice that there’s no clouds over the open water but they are all above land. Islands. It sticks out
Supposedly they sent out 2 float planes like pby or pbm bombers with crews of 10 or more and one also disappeared without a trace while searching for flight 19
It was a Martin Mariner; it likely exploded in mid air. A large fireball was seen in the search area; the Mariner was known as a flying gas tank, susceptible to gas leaks and explosions.
At Fort Lauderdale airport. There is a flight 19 memorial near the control tower. There is also a small Naval air Station Fort Lauderdale museum. The building it's in is the building the navy used to train pilots on the Link Trainer during WW2. They have a few artifacts related to flight 19 also.
Lt. Taylor, the flight commander had gotten lost before and I'm guessing he was in trouble for this. He'd not wanted to take the flight. He became obsessed with keeping the flight intact and would not listen to his colleagues. I agree he became disoriented but why no one took charge I do not understand. Plummer is probably right, and the retracing of the flight would get a result.
I saw a better RU-vid documentary about the base tower radio operator I believe. He kept turning down the power on his radio set and marking position of the dial where he lost their signal to determine if they were getting closer or further away. If you do a doc that says they're looking in the wrong place, you should say something about the right place other than just "the deepest part of the ocean". There's one theory that they mistook some Cuban islands for Islands off Florida and turned the wrong way. I've also read LT Taylor requested not fly that day and hag gotten lost and ditched in the ocean twice before.
I loved hearing the last veteran to get in contact with flight 19 . To hear him talk like hearing flight 19 again thank you for putting him in video truly a privilege 👍🏼💯
The Avengers probably originally had wind up clocks. I have heard that many were taken as souvenirs by servicemen demobilizing after WWII. It easily could happen that none of the aircraft had clocks. If you read the transcripts, Taylor for some reason thought he was in the Keys and would not let the flight turn west to get to Florida. The area on the eastern end of Grand Bahama looks a LOT like the islands just east of Key West. I think that is why Taylor thought he was in the Keys, and that they ended up somewhere east of Cape Canaveral and north of Grand Bahama……which is a LOT of ocean in which to look. The strength of their radio signals makes it impossible for them to have turned south after the first leg. There were approximate radio fixes that placed them north of GBI.
I've read the transcripts of the plane to plane communications. Stupid flight commander had, not one, but two broken compasses in his plane. The very second that he realized that, he should have relinquished command to someone else, but no, he had an ego to stroke. He led those men to the middle of nowhere. As far as the inflatable rafts on the planes, first, you gotta get those rafts out. Second, that area of water is known for rogue waves which can overturn rafts and to use an old Bill Cosby joke: "How long can you tread water?"
Yeah, the flight commander's decision-making skills were seriously off course! But what I always forget is that each plane had three men onboard. What were those other two guys doing while this was going on?
@@HistoryX What could the turret gunner and radio operator have done? There is no access to the cockpit and no secondary flight controls in the Avenger.
@@HistoryX They followed command chain. It was a training exercise and not up to them to take the lead. I bet if you do a test exactly calling for this to survive because of the obvious inability of their commander, 90/100 will die the same way. You do not challenge the command chain.
Another thing that should be made aware of is if the pilots had done a pre fight chart on their destination by speed and direction,they would have known where they were.I understand their compasses weren't working,but just by looking at land masses could have gave them an idea of their position.But,who knows,we weren't there.😊
Flying saucers have been seen so much around Florida that I think they may be responsible.I know,that sounds crazy right? Not as much as you would think.
It seems strange that they didn't try to triangulate Flight 19's position. This works best with ground-based stations. If the blimp knew exactly where they were at, that could have been a "fallback" alternative. There's no information about the Navy attempting that- at least in this video.
There could have been 50 aircrafts , they would all have crash also since they where following a lost leader. Also, the Bermuda triangle is just a big fantasy. Of course they have a lot of ships and airplanes disappearing there, just like everywhere in the world where ships and aircrafts routes are situated, the Bermuda -Florida corridor just happen the be where some majors sea and air routes are situated. More ships and aircrafts travelling there = more lost ships and aircrafts. As stupid as that.
Flight 19 didn't spark the mystery of the Bermuda Triangle. The disappearance of the USS Cyclops decades earlier already sparked interest in the mystery, as had several other maritime disappearances in the area. Flight 19 was the first notable incident involving aircraft disappearing.
One theory is that because they had no idea where they were, and were going back and forth,east west in a zigzag prior to running out of fuel, that they all went down in the everglades...endless swamps....thats why nothings been found, the planes sank, the crews probably eaten by gators. The order was given that when one ran out of fuel, theyd all go down together and stick together in the water for better chance of rescue. The avenger was known for its ability to stay afloat quite awhile on water landings , this gives credibility to the everglades theory, as theyd have crashed and not floated. But, the clincher may be the radio message ," we appear to be over land, but its broken up".
Does anyone else hate baked in subtitles as much as I do? RU-vid has a subtitle function. Please don’t force us to have distracting text on the screen.
I never understood how the flight leader could lead the squadron out over the Atlantic and convince himself that they were over the Keys. I remember reading the story about Flight 19 when I was around 12 years old and have been interested in it ever since, I am 60 now.
If you want to see what happened in detail look up the PBS/Nova episode on Flight 19, originally aired on Feb 16, 1976. They thoroughly debunk the Bermuda Triangle nonsense and go through the flight almost minute-by-minute. Oh, and the background music used here sucks, totally distracting from the limited useful info in this video.
So... this might serve as a good example of letting your ego write checks that your ass can't cover. The commander of the group should have turned over the lead to another pilot whose instruments were still working!🙄
The one thing I never understood is they have inflatables you’re telling me the planes. The pilots knew they were ditching what you prepare for that and then nothing ever found or something fishy.
