The Untold History of NATO and Case for Its Abolition 

Correction.... the US did not win the Second World War.....that was Russia with a little help from US and Brittain...NZ

NATO, Northern Aggression Treaty Organization

Unless american empire falls we cannot live in peace

I wish such discussions and information, go on mainstream media, in the US and all Western NATO countries. People would not join any military, and vote all war mongers out of Governments. PEACE.

Finally theres a talk show based on truth!! You guys are amazing!!! Keep going guys. More shows like this should be aired!!🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️

You guys are amazing, standing for the truth despite everything ❤ God bless you all. Its refreshing to hear this side of the story from Americans

We all forgot the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, during which USA reacted vehemently. Luckily Russia backed down and the world narrowly averted a third nuclear world war! The motto should be don't do to others what we do not want done unto us.

Thank you so much for providing these programs! Highly informative and a completely different and critical viewpoint than western capitalist media.

OK, let's just play it fair---put lots of Russian weapons and troops on the Canadian and Mexican borders with the U.S. I'm sure America will be fine with that.

UK USA created NATO pact in 1949 Main mission of NATO pact is to keep Germany separated from Russia

I wish the whole world listen to your voices!

Love and support from Florida, USA. Thank you for the education!

Not being a socialist, I must admit that you described the situation accurately. NATO should have been eliminated when the soviet union collapsed and the Warsaw pact no longer existed either.

It is time to have a clear policy to contain the USA

Thank God for these 2 Americans for daring speaking the truth! Congrats to both of them for detailing everything we knew and felt but couldn't express it as well as you both did!!

This changed my perspecive on the current situation. Thank you for this. Very objective and informative.

Thank you very much for telling the truth about Yugoslavia. Milosevic gave the US Secretary of State Warren Christofer a piece of paper and asked him to write down what Serbia should do to get the US support. Christofer said: you have to support the US unconditionally. Serbia couldn't do it. Thousands of people were killed by NATO, and the NATO spokespeople called that "collateral damage".

As socialists, our #1 responsibility is to oppose imperialism and help our class see through the lies!

What an excellent, informative breakdown of Nato and the nefarious imperialists in the West. I am well informed but I learned a lot of, previously unknown to me, history from this show. Thank you so much.

I am from Liberia a peaceful nation destroyed by a similar ideology. Our greatest Leaders were killed to prevent our FREEDOM. Thanks for the truth; the truth shall always set you free.

I cannot thank you both enough for your comprehensive and knowledgeable commentary on this subject. You are both outstanding communicators of the truth and facts. Bravo BTN. Free Julian Assange.

You 100% right, thank you for your comments!

America didn't win WW2, Soviets did.

Sorry Mr. Becker, you said an error: The Soviets won WW3, not us! 80% of German troops were wiped out by the Soviets at a cost of over 26 mill. lives: I"ll grant you that us helped with supplies, but it was Soviet Blood that defeated the Germans

Great show. I'm from former Yougoslavia and was vitnes of it's destruction by USA and NATO. It firsy started by stragling us with economic sanctions trough very expensive loans . They were using IMF and World bank. Once we took loans, they played their cards with increasing interest rates. Our outside debt was around $9 billion...and Bush decline to extend our acces to new loans declaring us non solvent country. Todays countries made from Yougoslavias parts are more then $ 500 billions in debt and still have access to loans.New way to colonise some countries.

Great discussion by hosts that have a deep historical material knowledge and analysis.

This is one of the most educational lecture I’ve heard so far filled in lots of blank spots and the bottom line still ended up at the same conclusion without some of the unsure guilt thanks.

Hands down one of the best channels on YT thank you

Just go to NASA in the 50s, yell "Heil H*tler" and half the guys their will salute to you.

This is an excellent discussion!

Thank you for all these valuable information!!🙏👏👏👏 It shows, unfortunately, how misinformed we have been!! Great work! Bravo 👏👏👏🙌

Thanks for another pertinent and valuable political lesson making a strong case for the abolition of NATO, especially significant now that Europe is experiencing yet another NATO provoked war..

You guys really understand Russian history and their legitimate concerns about invasion from the west. Thank you.

Respect for actually being true to socialist anti-war principles. I spent 20 years in a Leftist party which was supposedly democratic socialist but in my branch at the time i left, even those in the Far Left faction were rabid pro-US imperialism and anti-Russian, it was incredible. Surprised you didnt mention that both Britain and the US assessed possible attacks on the USSR even before WW2 ended, the Brits called theirs Operation Unthinkable, the US planned to bomb 47 Soviet cities with atomic weapons. British and Americans were horrified by this and alerted the Soviets. The US and Britain started the Cold War.

NATO should be abolished!

Putin asked to join both NATO and EU but he was refused by both......same hapend in 1954 after Stalin death

this has become one of my favorite channels and shows, keep up the great work guys\ excellent history lesson

This is the sixth time I watch this great discussion: I´m taking notes from it for an essay someday I will finish: "NATO: war and fear is our business"

Very genuine conversation gentlemen. Thank you.

Congratulations. Extraordinary. So illustrative. Thanks!

Create chaos ,then profit from the chaos.Thats America

The US should amassing their troops within their country too… immediately and forever., and give back Diego Garcia etc. to its native population and clean up their toxic mess before leave.

Being African and a Pan-Africanist , I have a natural inclination towards a left leaning world view. I'm overjoyed to have found this podcast, it's so informative.

After WW1, we immediately cut back on weapons production and the size of our military. After WW2, this did not happen. The machinery for war production in large part stayed in place. The Militarized Industrial Complex began to get power right after WW2. These war profiteers really had more power than any other part of our economy. The New Deal laws regulated our economy sectors except the war machine. After Korea, the cold war was on. Billions were spent on new weapons, planes, ships etc. We really started to arm ourselves to the teeth after Korea. You have to remember, our military was run by the war lords of WW2. You look at the pressure that Curis Lemay put on Kennedy during the missile crisis. Lemay kept telling JFK he could bomb Cuba out of existence in a few days. Look at what MacArthur did and how he got fired. All of the people who ran our military were WW2 war hawks. These generals were bolstered up even further by the war machinery, the MIC. They say that we had so many ships waiting at the Okinawa invasion, you could have walked from Okinawa to HI just walking from ship to ship. We were by far the strongest military on earth after WW2 and still are to this day. The Cold War was fear and war mongering, done mostly by the MIC. I remember hearing things when I was in the Army in Germany in 1975 and 1976. One thing that was going around, and this came right from our Army leadership is that the hundreds of thousands of troops and tanks we had in West Germany and Europe would only slow the Russian attackers by two weeks. We were told that Russian had thousands of tanks and a million man infantry, that all we could do if they attacked is just slow their advance westward for two weeks. That was such a huge croak of crap. That was not true. All I remember hearing when I was in Germany in the Army is the Soviets equipment is better than ours and they have more of it. That is so untrue. Soviet equipment was notoriously inferior to ours, and still is. Our imperialistic genocide on the rest of the world is so painfully obvious now. Once you understand some real facts and truth, the facade of our indoctrination and proliferation of their propaganda is meaningless.

Very helpful discussions ever. Two extremely knowledgeable people I have ever encountered; diving into the real truth without any phobias of being accused of belonging to the enemy’s camps. I had a reason for staying up listening to you guys. Keep it up! It’s boring to live on propaganda as has always been the case in most media outlets.

I lived through most of these events. But I'd forgotten (or I naively didn't even realize at the time) how sordid are "our" ( i.e. USA) motives.

THANKS GUYS TEACH THEM GREAT SHOW. TEACH THEM.FRM 🇸🇷

thank you that there is a channel who dares to tell the truths. my respect to this channel

Enjoyed your analysis, thank you guys! Lots of historical myths unraveled. Manufacturing consent is as American as apple pie, from the dawn of the last century.

This is fantastic. I might add another reason for Stalin's defensive paranoia (to a fault really) is the reason Truman was leveraged as FDR's final term VP (replacing Henry Wallace who likely wouldn't have been so easy to rollover on this/other points), which is the dropping of 2 atomic bombs on Japan, which not only drew (exploded) incredibly clear and visible lines in the sand in terms of spheres of influence but also presented the actual willingness to use such paradigm-shifting weapons of mass destruction. FDR's agreement at Potsdam (or Yalta, I forget, one of those) for the USSR to enter the pacific front uncoincidentally let them witness this first hand - the second bomb dropping mere hours after their scheduled invasion. Also there's the whole CIA-run covert program out of Italy called Operation Gladio, the full intent of which was to direct "stay behind" fascist paramilitary ostensibly "in case of Soviet invasion" but really any leftward state reorientation after the war, similar to Weimar in a way with the freikorps (which of course unsurprisingly formalized into the SS) crushing the socialist/communist parties during the 1918 uprisings. Along with assistance from the Catholic Church (see the P2 lodge they funneled money through, and how this was eventually exposed through a bank-run investigation along with the death of "God's banker" in London) and mafia ("fun" fact: briefly mentioned in The Godfather pt.3 if I recall) in laundering money/funneling munitions to such paramilitary, the basic template became generating domestic terror attacks to generate fear and manufacture consent away from the left, usually by blaming leftist political parties in a Reichstag Fire -> Enabling Act-esque sort of way, known as the "strategy of tension", the "years of lead" in Italy are a direct result of this covert paramilitary direction. Not to mention the US-protect ratlines into South America, protecting people like Klaus Barbie (France/Bolivia), Otto Skorzeny (basically nazi james bond), Paul Schaffer (no not _that_ Paul Schaffer lol...this one's a literal nazi of course, instrumental in cultivating an ideological alignment for Pinochet's ascension - also enormous pedophile because of course he was...makes Epstein's whole thing look like, excuse the crass pun here lol, child's play), et al. in their migration to Chile/other parts of the global south so as to continue setting the global Cold War chessboard in a monroe doctrine-esque claim over south america through Operation Condor, which essentially used the same template of directing fascist paramilitary, the same strategy really used all over the globe frankly. I mean as sort of a continuum here, the nazis didn't really lose WWII, Germany did, and the US capitalist empire, rallying capital under the banner of neoliberalism and "free trade" imperialism via IMF/World Bank established in Bretton-Woods from our massive negotiating leverage after the war, merely subsumed the nazis and their ideological trajectory/vision and gradually, mostly covertly of course (also with Operation Paperclip) digested it into a slightly more palatable less viscerally ultranationalist aesthetic form, our dominion secured by our currency hegemony (Bretton-Woods -> Nixon shock kicking over the ladder of gold reserve backing from under us as nation-states could potentially accumulate their own gold reserves and usurp such financial leverage; petrodollar de facto world reserve currency grounding dollar purchasing power, as revealed by '73 OPEC embargo which led to domestic oil extraction to patch up this potential exploit) and ultimately enforced at implicit threat of the barrel of a gun via 800+ military bases and a black hole of "defense" budget, allowing us control over pretty much every aspect of geopolitical influence, rejecting subservience gets you highlighted for good 'ol "regime change" like Cuba or Venezuela (which, since Libya was noted as having the largest oil reserves in Africa, uncoincidentally Venezuela sits on the largest oil reserves on earth, what a "coincidence"). But yeah, this is great is the main point, just adding on top of course. For anyone circumstantially unfamiliar, also check out: The Devil's Chessboard by David Talbot, Killing Hope by William Blum, The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins, War is a Racket by Smedley Butler (also see: "Business plot" _actual_ fascist coup attempt by wall street revealed by general Butler as much to wall street's shagrin dude had a conscience, also the bonus army veteran march on washington proposing at the very least a bonus for their service/sacrifice in WWI, M1918 tanks were deployed in the streets of DC in response, shocker), etc. etc. Or just like look up "regime change" or any of the CIA's operational history.

Thanks for the excellent story of NATO. Funny how the history books omit it.

"If those days were not cut short, no flesh would be saved " . . .

Not a single lie or falsehood in here. Very good analysis and a lot of extremely important educational content. Very refreshing and absolutely necessary content. Thank you! I subscribed to Break Through News after listening to Rania's speech at this year's Rosa Luxemburg Konferenz. Im glad I did.

What an informative episode. Thank you.

Bravo!!!!

The super analytical war thinker.you are THE BEST and the only ONE period.

An addition to the fantastic content here would be Michael Hudson's book Superimperialism

Such an amazing episode. thank you both!

Thank you. Now, I understand.

Excellent information for all about NATO's formation, US, Moscow, and Communist countries. Thank you.

I approve this conversation

NATO needs a solid excuse to be relevant again. What better than provoke enmity against Russia

Good talk. Important to grasp now re the Ukraine War what the speaker says about the tense and underlying hostile relationship between US neo-colonialism and European colonialism. The working class is an international class. No one part has the right to hold others back, we go forward where we can, when we can. We have a fundamental need to support each other.

Thank You! Keep Up the Good Work! Your conversation is most enlightening, very much appreciated, though extremely saddenIng😔 God Bless You ✝️ 🙌 both and your families

I believe that the losses suffered by Russia in Ukraine, if the account of the losses as reported by western news media is true, is because Russia decides not to employed its full military might inorder to save lives of Ukraine population. Let peace reign.

It is not long since I would have skipped watching or reading anything openly Socialist. But events, especially over the past three years, have caused me to re-evaluate a lot of things. First up, while still a youngster at school, I recall the menace of the Soviet Union being drummed into us daily. A few times we also had nuclear strike practices. It was like the Soviets were hardly human, but instead automatons bent on world domination and killing. I recall also wondering how it was that Soviet citizens could not possibly be NORMAL people who love their fathers, mothers siblings and extended families. What a mystery. Growing through middle age and onward into old age, this ridiculous model persisted in absence of better information. Well thanks to the Internet and my interest starting early to find out the Russian view on World affairs, I realised I was changing my views about Russia, about President Putin, and about Governments. But also I realised my trust and faith in the USA and Western sources to tell me the complete TRUTH about what was going on. I despaired at Western Media enough that for much time now, I avoid televisions, radio and newspapers. Don't worry, I still get more than enough information from various angles. But listening to your thoughts, I am reminded of a question I am pondering at present. I suspect I know what the result might turn out to be. Lets see . . . how shall I put it. Here goes - DEMOCRACY is almost unknown in history. We have had war-lords, Royalty, Despots, Dictators, slave owners and so on, but not DEMOCRACY. So I am asking if DEMOCRACY is a form of governance that suits people naturally? My country is usually considered a FREE DEMOCRACY, and yet our ( arguably elected ) politicians are behaving as DICTATORS, DESPOTS and really have oppressed the citizens and employed violence against peaceful protest. They enact laws that turn out to be informal and illegal, but who cares? They are the government and what they say and choose is what is enforced - even with brutality. I also dwell on the question "Who or what are they serving?" Do they serve the people, or some other entity. The latter is most likely in my view, and that would not be democracy. So its a ?Democracy" in which the views of the people do not matter. But the ?Democracies? do criticise Russia as if Russia was worse than them, and lets not forget in their view Russia is corrupt and undemocratic? I have lost faith, trust and respect for my government, its propaganda outlets (Media), and in that we will have any DEMOCRATIC elections ever again. Now I watch Russia and the Ukraine event. I blame the USA, and its "playing chicken" as one yank put it for the situation that now exists as our country and our world plummet into depression and stupidity. I am ashamed that I did not see this earlier. I wish Russia well.

This advocacy to abolish NATO is the best argument to envigorate and empower more the NATO !!!

NATO should apologise the world and it should be devolved. No need for NATO .they have committed crimes against humanity in Libya 🇱🇾 in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 and now this war in Ukraine 🇺🇦 its because of NATO.

This was a useful discussion. It would be enhanced if a bibliography or suggestions for further reading would be included.

This is exactly what every news source should be talking about,this is the headline all news sources should be running with!WTF is wrong with pretty much every news source in the U.S. and the E.U.?"Controlled by war mongering sell outs" should be the disclaimer for most all of them!

This is one of the most brilliant discussion I like it so much

Excellent. Informative & analytical

You are so right but you might become a 🎯 for speaking against NATO 😂 America has a problem with the truth unless it's the truth they make up.

I guess he oversimplified for U.S. audience (avoiding confusion), so no, NATO didn't bomb that Yugoslavia (with all the republics), but did bomb Serbian lines in Bosnian civil war (Bosnian Muslims VS Bosnian Serbs) in '95, and Yugoslavia already broken with secession of the republics (becoming independent states) of Slovenia, Macedonia, Croatia (with civil war), Bosnia and Herzegovina (with civil war) So in '99, when that "humanitarian" NATO bombardment started two remaining republics of the Yugoslavia were Serbia and Montenegro. All NATO "interventions" in Yugoslavia were exclusively against Sebian people (out of six constitutional nationalities and one major minoritie group- Albanians), because of Serbian historic (still ongoing) affiliation with Russia and Russian people.

Fantastic presentation, very insightful.

Thank you so much for the history lesson

Wow wow and wow again. As an Australian where we live in relative bliss as a source of mineral resources for the reconstruction of Europe and also Japan under the Marshal Plan, and now with only one major media conglomerate owned by Murdoch it seems that as well fed puppy dogs we or at least I have wondered why our why our Governments have been so subservient to every request to die for American and British wars that seemed unjust. Now that you have so comprehensively filled in my knowledge of the real history of the modern political world I can now understand my confusion and distaste for the distopian world I live in. What I still can't understand is how and why the American people vote in the traitorous greedy and sociapathic politicians and why the people are angrily divided between two political parties who have identical policies despite their rhetoric. It always amazes me that the excuse for inexcusabe wars is " we are bringing those little brown people the joys of Democracy" when clearly the USA and most Western countries are either avaricious Oligarchies or about to become one. Furthermore it seems that the real power increasingly lies with international oligarchs working alongside the unacountable secret services. Little wonder the disparity in wealthy nations is greater than in poor ones.As a young man I read a quote by Nelson Rockefeller who said that the CIA's role was not to protect America from the Russians, it was to propagate American business interests abroad and that Russia is not the real threat it was the have nots - in America I presumed. It certainly seems that every war is promoted by the CIA paid for by the have nots and funded by both the government and the opposition and benefits the filthy rich.

Amazing history lesson, will definitely share this alot

Thank you for the TRUTH.

Thank you shall download because this history lesson we did ever get.

Before World War Two, the Western Powers promoted German expansion eastward. Non-intervention in Spain enabled the seizure of power by the military junta. The United States, France and England rejected collective security to confront Nazi lebensraum. What was called appeasement was nothing less than Western powers facilitating the German invasion of the Soviet Union. It undermined the strategic tasks, such as a second front, needed to defeat Nazi Germany and let the Soviet Union carry the burden of the war. After the defeat of Nazi Germany the Soviet Union upheld its pledge to fight the Japanese despite a previous non-aggression pact with Japan. The atomic bombs were dropped on Japan to re-define the Western relations with the Soviet Union to establish the hegemony of the United States internationally. The Russian Federation and the Peoples' Republic of China have seen the United States actions regarding Taiwan and Hong Kong and the expansion of NATO on Russia's borders.

I believe this why Russia 🇷🇺 perfected in defensive systems cz its provoked and threatened every tym

Thank you

Very eye opening insights of history. Really Great!!

Learn a lot today. Thank you BT.

I like the history Lesson. But the fear mongering about war with Russia is overboard

Absolutely 💯.

You guy's are great thank you

At 4:00 Eugene almost let the cat out of the bag. It sounded like he was about to say that the US is threatening to use anything that they can interpret as aggression on Russia's part as an "opportunity"😬.

Keep up the work, gentlemen!

Great conversation

I haven’t seen any other videos like this depicting the other side of NATO. This is good information.

10:35 a promisse where there was no written treaty or even a signature, between two people that are both already dead and one of those countries doesnt exist anymore. is that a valid promisse? is germany still binded by the treaties Prussia signed?

Hey guys, this is all super interesting information to me. I have not had great access to this previously, but could you explain why, in none of this, is the fact that Putin is a dictator and an extremely corrupt oligarch mentioned? Surely, when evaluating the motives of a country ruled, as it is, by such a powerful political figure, this would be worth discussion and analysing? I condemn the USA's foreign policy, but surely we also have to condemn the Russian regime that has poisoned and killed its political opponents (sometimes on the doorstep of government buildings). Could someone please explain where that is in this conversation? Thank you

So important!

informative and sober convo.

I feel like yall should interview Oliver Stone re: US and Russia. That untold history of the united states series he put out was really in depth about the forces shaping US policy, comong out of WWII. ive watched the forst fove episodes over and over, and much of the historical footage was entirely new to me. Might be an interesting conversation.

Thanks for the RU-vid on this topic. It was informative and brought up some questions that were not addressed. What influence could the Soviet Union's alliance with Nazi Germany under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Nonaggression Pact in August 1939, at the outset of WWII, play in the Allies' reaction following the conclusion of the war in setting up NATO (led by the U.S.) - and its 'mindset' of perceived future Soviet expansion and threat? The Soviets invaded Poland 16 days or so after Germany invaded Poland in September 1939. The Soviets invaded Finland in November 1939. The Soviets didn't need to invade either country, except perhaps as a land grab to begin their buffering from the west. It's curious that the allies never declared war on the Soviet Union, even though France and Britain had a defensive pact with Poland. I realize there was a lot of diplomatic nuance in the decision not to declare war, and it could have pushed the Soviet Union into a military alliance rather than a non-aggression pact with Germany. Another consideration, Russia and the Prussian and Austro-Hungarian empires occupied Poland prior to WWI; and so, perhaps this was an opportunity to reclaim its empire. Vyacheslav Molotov is quoted as saying, "One blow from the German army and another from the Soviet army put an end to this ugly product of Versailles." History is messy. One American general at least, Patton, thought the U.S. was going to go to war with the Soviet Union at some point, while Eisenhower was trying to avoid that type of confrontation. In Patton's simple-minded sort of way, he saw the two ideologies of communism/totalitarianism and capitalism/democratism as incompatible. I believe the use of the atomic bomb on Japan was a demonstration to the Soviet Union to tread cautiously. NATO was formed April of 1949 and the Soviet Union exploded their first atomic bomb in August 1949 and both sides settled into a standoff. A point I am trying to make is that there are so many underlying factors that have led to the reason NATO still persists and the current standoff in Ukraine as well. Neither side trusts the other. And so they continue to make moves and countermoves on the global war chessboard. China is entering the foray on a tri-level chessboard. IF NATO was disbanded, would all of the respective adversaries go back to their natural borders? Is NATO the glue maintaining the saber-rattling and diplomatic hostilities? If the WEST directed its economic resources, capability and innovation to infrastructure improvements and technological advancements, etc., while protecting its intellectual property, rather than military hegemony and imperialism (projecting its strength), it could possibly be a better direction for the West to pursue.

Yes I like your show guys

Brilliant!