The USA May Never See Disney's Best Themed Land - Here's Why 

Tokyo: We've a full scale Tangled e-ticket boat ride. Paris: We're getting a c-ticket Tangled ride that has boats in it. Orlando: ...TOILETS!!!

It’s a shame people were clamoring for ‘more Disney’ because Disneysea ‘wasn’t Disney enough.’ Yeah…I’d rather have Disneysea as it was than the newer Disney IP attractions being put in everywhere. I miss the Big Thumders, the Haunted Mansions, the Spaceship Earths, the Expedition Everests. Not everything NEEDS (or should) be IP based. Really boxes in the creativity of IMAGINEERS.

Japanese companies are always thinking of the long term benefits rather then the short term benefits.You don’t see Hondas breaking down after 2 years they last 20-30 years .They make sure that their products are top notch and that includes theming and details.

Tokyo has had a dedicated WDI team for decades. We shouldn’t look at their successes and assume we would ever get them in America. The Oriental Land Company has actually passed over some of the more recent proposals from American WDI because they didn’t meet OLC’s expectations.

Epic Universe is going to be the closest thing to a Tokyo Disneysea-esque park in the US, because of the immersion

Is Epic Universe really going to be the first DisneySea level park in America? What the Hell Disney?!?

I absolutely do not want the parks to be copy/pasted. I wholeheartedly agree with you that the parks should have their own identities and unique experiences exclusive to that park. There is an argument to be made about the price of travel and Disney tickets, and that a lot of people may never be able to see and experience all the different resorts. So making the parks more homogenized is the only way for more people to experience the different areas. But, to my thinking, it’s a question of quality. Fantasy Springs is phenomenally well themed and beautiful and we’re jealous of it because that level of theming and experience is not something we really see all that much in the state side Disney parks. Star Wars and Pandora seem to be the closest we have right now, but I think instead of copy/pasting attractions, the parks should focus more on bringing that kind of quality to all the parks and attractions. It would be a slow and expensive prospect but refurbs should be used to bring the quality of the older attractions to a level closer to this, and new expansions should be at this kind of level.

It's amazing how Fantasy Springs despite having IPs in Disneysea that's traditionally not too IP heavy still feels something otherworldly and not Disney in the best sense. Like you're really in a world of fantasy and not something that's obviously corporate based. If I do get to visit Tokyo Disneyland and Disneysea in my lifetime Fantasy Springs will without a doubt among my first stops. As for us getting Fantasy Springs in the states we're technically already getting that along with DisneySea as a whole it's just not from both DisneyLand and DisneyWorld but rather in the form of Epic Universe from Universal Orlando Resorts which is more and more looking to be DisneySea's true equal in terms of immersion, theming, and technological advancements. The fact that like the OLC over in Japan the Universal Engineers are sparing no expense to really push the envelope to that level. I know people will bring up both Pandora and Galaxy's Edge being Fantasy Springs equals but even then Epic Universe is doing a lot more to take the steps needed to be at DisneySea's level in general not just Fantasy Springs.

It's true that no Tokyo attractions have come stateside but the general concept of Disney Springs (next-gen Fantasyland attractions and environments) could and should make it to the US, but with different IP's.

The fact that Fantasy Springs is roughly the same exact size as Galaxy’s Edge, yet has twice the rides is depressingly pathetic. Granted, they are still really big rides, but so are the ones at Fantasy Springs!

While I don't like the idea of copy and pasting attractions so that each resort has it's own character and identity, it's just sad that the states doesn't receive THIS LEVEL of theming to projects. There are uniquely designed and created elements EVERYWHERE creating total immersion. Pandora in WDW does achieve this standard for sure and the Treehouse in Disneyland does as well. I have a good feeling about Tiana's Bayou Adventure as well. But there are so many shuttered areas in WDW that I wish they'd do a LITTLE of this immersion in those areas ( I'm looking at you, Animation Courtyard) Imagine a Monstropolis in that area!

I agree if anything from Fantasy Spring were to come over to the US, it would be the Tangled Ride. Though I would think they would expand on it/change it enough that it would be considered its own thing. In my opinion if Anaheim gets a Frozen Land, 99% chance it will be a copy of Hong Kong's Frozen Ever After. I don't think a lot of people realize how much money the things in Tokyo cost and the reason why they get all of the good things is because Disney isn't footing the bill, so thanks for pointing that out!

Having exclusivity rights for rides and lands is great for travel and discover different versions of the same ride. It's also great for business to drive more overseas/regional tourists to come to the theme parks. I have been to all Disney resorts (except Shanghai), and some if not all are unique from each other. One thing I would've love to see is one of the Galaxy's Edges be different from one another, with an emphasis on a different terrain and different ride experiences. If an Avatar experience in Anaheim is going to focus on the sequel to stand apart from Pandora in Orlando, then it's a win-win for unique experiences.

US: Look at these tangled bathrooms, aren’t they cool? Tokyo: here’s a tangled ride, you’re welcome. WHY DO WE NOT GET THE COOL STUFF?!!

fantasy springs looks amazing to me, I love the frozen, rapunzel and peter pan rides, and tink is cute too. I agree with you guys in that I'd rather have the parks have their own unique rides (the lion king ride rumor for DLP is very exciting to me), but at the same time I'd rather have this rapunzel ride than the bathrooms in MK or the upcoming teacup ride for paris... tokyo proves that rides don't always have to be an e-ticket or super long to be impressive

Let me correct you on that. OLC gets 100% profit from Merchandise Food and Beverage and the Duffy and Friends Franchise.

It’s great that this land will be exclusive to Disney Sea, but Japan already has a over-tourism problem with many bad eggs 😭😭

I don’t want fantasy springs to come here, I just want Disney world to put in effort on par with fantasy springs.

Amazing video, as always, fellas. I love how you guys touch on both sides of the argument. Great watch 👏

I'd love it if Disney made a Fantasy Springs at Disneyland but with entirely new properties. Like, keep the woodland theming and put Brave, Tarzan, and Robin Hood in there instead. Or maybe Bambi. IDK. Give it a more autumn feel instead of spring, but build on what makes Fantasy Springs work, just with new IP.

I watched other channels which showed that there are A LOT OF BARRIERS you have to go thru before you can enjoy this new area: 1. you need to buy a seperate enteramce pass on top of your regular pass. 2. Then you need to buy yet another fast-pass to MOST of the rides. 3. one of the ride doesn't even inclued in that perimum fast pass that you still need to line up and wait.....

This may have been commented on previously, you said Tokyo Disneyland opened in 1982, it was 1983.

Tokyo Disney visitors treat the park like a museum rather than a theme park. This level of detail wouldn't work as well elsewhere, at least not presented in the same way it is in Tokyo. I could see the OLC allowing a select few specific rides from the new land considering how many there are and the overlay on top, specifically the Rapunzel attraction. I'm sure the existing tower in WDW allowed a cost savings for the development of the ride in Tokyo could have been a quid pro quo offered by Disney. It could have even been designed shorter and smaller footprint for a reason...

Great job lads

The best compromise would be of these international parks gave full english audio. Vincent Price for Phantom Manor, Idina Menzel for Frozen Journey, and Joe Rodhe for Tower of Terror

Fantasy springs looks perfect... but almost so much so that if the rides have a low throughput compared to demand, there will be nowhere to expand next.

Despite being the original and only park that Walt Disney was able to experience, the Disneyland resort often seems like the poor step-child getting hand-me-downs. One of the few exceptions being Carsland. I would like to see some really amazing versions of attractions go in here. An even better Frozen ride. Unique new things exclusive to Disneyland that are state of the art and mind blowing. That is what I’d like. Tired of the inferior versions.

I’d personally wouldn’t mind Disneyland having their own version of Fantasy Springs. Use three different IPs, let’s say Cinderella, Beauty and The Beast and The Lion King which all lack attractions in the CA resort) as an example, and develop three mini lands ala Tokyo Disney Sea’s Fantasy Springs. Each IP with their original rides using the technology developed for TDS but theming it to something new rather than just copying and pasting Frozen, Tangled and Peter Pan’s rides. Now do I think Disney would actually do this? Probably not, specially with current leadership! But one can only hope

Tokyo Disney Resort also already had a peter pan attraction, i dont see why TDR would be okay with having 2 pan attractions but WDW and DLR wouldnt...

My gosh I wish OLC would buy the US Disney resorts

good to know how much fantasy springs costs. people are going crazy and imagine the most lavish things for disneyland forward, which will have a price tag of 1.8 billion (?)... for the whole project! not just the park expansion. for comparison, each galaxy edge costs around 1 billion. I'm not a big fan of book-report dark rides, I would rather prefer original idaes, just like mystic manor, but I understand the desire of more IP in the parks. but the could have used it more creatively. why not create a new story with the characters of frozen?

In the early 90s Disney looked at Ling Beach, CA for a Disney Sea-esque Park. But Disney said the open land was too far from Anaheim. Those plans went to Tokyo

I love all the people complaining about the attactions even though they’re all incredible in their own way

At least we can travel there! *Books flight to Tokyo*

The thing that Disney needs to do is have the ride systems that have been developed to be implemented across the parks BUT have an IP or story that fits with the ride system. Anyone from the American parks that are bitching about how other parks have the “nice stuff” I have examples of our exclusive ride systems. 1. Flight of Passage - no other ride has had that ride system and that ride was developed in 2011-2013 and opened in 2016. Yes, you could argue that it’s a Soarin’ 2.0 ride system but we haven’t seen a leaked proposal for a “clone” of it. An IP that could be amazing for it would be an Avengers E-ticket since you’re in a “motorcycle” stance and could be a Stark or Shield-style vehicle. 2. Smugglers Run - yes it can be called a new-age Star Tours but no other park has a ride with the turntable ride system. There is of course a reason why this system hasn’t been implemented in another park, that is our “unique” system. 3. Guardians Cosmic Rewind - until we see what Tokyo’s new Space Mountain is, this could be exclusive to America. There will always be cynics from within the American parks who wonder why the international parks get special treatment, especially over the last decade. But, always remember that we are in a unique situation where we have six Disney Parks in our country. The parks will eventually see these ride systems. It is unfortunate that they are not done at the same caliber as the international parks.

I feel like California (with Disney Forward.) should get something like fantasy springs, although I agree that it shouldn't be Fantasy Springs itself. The idea of smaller lands being in a bigger overreaching land, that I believe things like forward and the possible 5th - 6th gates in orlando will get. (im mostly focusing on cali though since its my home park) As someone who just went to tokyo disney right before these lands opened. I can safely say that we probably wont be getting things like Beauty and the Beast, Tangled, or Peter pan in our park. But i do believe that we will be getting a princess expansion of some kind/original disney production projects. Especially with Pandora coming to Disneyland/califorrnia adventure as the way of water iteration. Something i noticed about both disney fantasy springs as well as beauty and the beast is that they were complete retellings of the movies. and while disneyland does have retellings through peterpan, snowhite,etc I dont think thats the way disneyland functions (especially with Tiana's bayou adventure coming out soon.) I believe that Californias will choose projects that can have stories past the original movies. With the only 2 IP's we are pretty sure sure are coming being Pandora (way of water) and Frozen (as its becoming a staple at all the parks.) Although similar to Fantasy springs I want to believe that they will be adding two more miniatures in (Besides Frozen) but its my belief the other two will be Moana/Encanto (as the more modern project similar to tangled. Due to the sheer popularity of Moana/Encanto especially here in the states.(theres also a bit of bias on my part for Moana, and my brain fantasizing about it because of the way of water expansion.)) and one of the older IP's like Lion King or Aladdin. (my personal preference would be lion king as a lot of the retellings of aladdin in the other parks aren't the greatest although with how common it is in other parks it might be more likely.) Although this expansion i doubt will get the budget of Fantasy springs I could very easily see disney doing minatures lands in an overarching land. Especially with how condensed Disney Forward seems to be, with the limit of 14 rides in the papers themselves and 5 of which being thrill (something that the parks been lacking) it makes practical sense to me to make minature areas for different IP's from Disneys personal library while still allowing them to be immersive in an overarching theme. In summary. I dont think we will be getting a Disney Fantasy Springs in the U.S parks but I can easily see us getting something similar with different IP's and a different overarching theme that still has the appeal of Fantasy springs, either being more original IP based or just more thrill themed based

I hope that Paris get´s some of these areas / attractions.

I could see the frozen ride at fantasy springs possibly coming to Disneyland. But that’s it.

Speaking to the last question in the video, for the most part I'd rather have a ride that's from another Disney park that I know is a 10/10 instead of a ride that's exclusive to my local park but is a 7/10. It's much cheaper for Disney to just copy/paste rides that are already at other parks because they don't have to spend a bunch of money for R&D and they can just slap the new ride down at the new space. I'd rather them spend $100M for a ride that cost Tokyo $150M then get a ride that costs $100M all-in.

You bring up lots of good points here. However, why do you argue that Disney would have to shut down or convert their existing Peter Pan and Frozen themed rides before adding the new ones from Disney Springs? They already have multiple rides based on a single IP in one park. Case in point: Disney didn't shut down Star Tours to introduce two new Star Wars IP themed rides in Galaxy's Edge. They also have two Toy Story themed rides in adjacent parks, with Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin and Toy Story Midway Mania at Disneyland and California Adventure respectively.

Bottom line is Disney doesn’t want to pay for better park experiences/a new park in the US. That was the best point of the video. The “would you rather” options presented in the video are A. Be a Disney company apologist like the author of this video and change nothing, or B. Copy and paste fantasy springs (or other Disney Tokyo attractions) into current existing US Disney parks, which now that we’ve all watched this video have been informed is impossible. I guess that’s what set Walt apart isn’t it, unlike everyone else he dreamed bigger and thought outside the box.

I absolutely love that Tokyo Disney doesn't theme itself as much. I love areas that facilitate Disney rides, but aren't entire lands dedicated to just one movie. Fantasyland, Adventureland, and Frontierland do this particularly well.

I don’t believe the narrative “people wanted more Disney stuff in Tokyo Disney Sea” visiting the parks in Japan is such a unique experience. The guests don’t run around in Spirit Jersies like they do in the US they don’t even sell a Tokyo Disney spirit jersey. To me it was an opportunity to add something unique and creative FAR MORE CREATIVE THAN WE WILL EVER SEE IN THE US. THE OLC gets it. They are re-doing space mountain and they create unique expensive attractions that the US “CHEAP” parks won’t. Save your money and visit the international parks. Such a great time.

I do want that frozen ride to come state side though.....

Hopefully for a Cassandra meet and greet

Peter Pan could come to WDW. There's space at MK and Peter Pan's existing low-capacity ride is ride for ripe for a next-generation version. Plus it would be a new-for-the-US ride system for Disney Parks. While the Tangled ride is nice, I think they'd rather clone the Paris flat ride instead, if that happens at all.

Pieces, yes. Some form of Frozen will come to California. The Tangled attraction would fit in California (back of Fantasyland would be ideal) and Florida (Germany pavilion in EPCOT would be ideal). Peter Pan won’t come but the ride system will be used for other IPs.

I am 100% in the camp that each park should be for the most part unique in offerings. I can understand a couple of the "greatest hits" rides/lands but the unique nature of the parks is the draw to go visit. I realize not everyone can do that but I think overall it's better for the health of the parks and the industry in general. I do think going forward in the US parks with new projects we are going to see a step up in quality. I think we are already seeing that in Tiana's Bayou Adventure. I think it's safe to say that after Chapek left, that the budget to plus up that ride happened. It might not be the perfect version but it will be better. I am very excited to see what will happen with Disneyland Forward, and I do think we are all going to be surprised with how good it is. Disney is not going to let it's overseas parks outshine the home parks, and as it stands that is how it is right now.

"... it was unfair for other parks to have toys that they wanted to play with." Yeah, I get that feeling, especially about the latest Pirates ride in China. But it's the technology development that creates amazing experiences, and are those "proprietary" to OLC and the Tokyo Disney Resort? I actually wish Smuggler's Run would expand to have the different parts in the "game" that would really fulfill its promise. And the Frozen ride is just Maelstrom technology, isn't it?

I would rather have an original attraction than a clone, but I'd rather have a clone than a cheaped-out version of the same concept, like Pooh.

Based on some of the newer items in the US and how they are breaking down, losing color, chaffing, splitting, it seems like the while the ideas are awesome, they are not holding up under everyday use...kinda like the 80's vs 20s refrigerator where for the 20s it breaks down just after warranty expiration but for 80, they are still going strong and say they will outlive you.

Americans: “duhhhh stop putting IP in our parks Disney. That hurt my feelings and my theme park bias”. Japan: “We want more Disney IP in Tokyo DisneySea! We love these characters!” As an American, I’m embarrassed.

As much as theme parks have pretty much always had an element of being for a more fortunate group of people, the idea of rejecting an excellent attraction because it exists somewhere else in the world is a level of privilege that I honestly still have some trouble comprehending.

Fantasy springs is literally my dream land! It has some of the best Disney movies all combined in to one land and they did it perfectly! I wish we could get some of this in America

Hmmm... With regards to Disneyland Forward: TWDC technically, they could build a version of the Tangled boat ride (change things up a bit narratively by introducing and featuring Mother Gothel and the two hitchmen in the ride.) Similarly, they could build a version of the Beauty and the Beast dark ride with introducing Gaston. From both video ride throughs I've seen on RU-vid, neither one featured the villain and at least constructively in Fantasy Springs, that made sense in that it's narrative and extended lore of Fantasy Springs. (Though, not so much as Beauty and the Beast, but that probably has more to deal with budget and spacing there.) But it's entirely up to TWDC if they want to build a variation of those two rides while also keeping them different enough from Tokyo Disney Resort's versions. I honestly wouldn't expect the Tokyo DisneySea version of the Frozen boat ride coming to the Disneyland because of the all of those mini-background AAs and contract agreements with OLC (and because TWDC have other money-making areas.) Culturally, I disagree with you on Galaxy's Edge. Yes, guests wanted Disney to do an immerse experience with Star Wars like visiting a familiar place and doing an up charged activity (like Hogsmeade in most of the Universal Studios parks and Islands of Adventure Park.) BUT... instead actually taking them to a familiar place, like, oh, IDK, Tatooine, Hoth, etc in each park (which would have been miles better btw), Galaxy's Edge instead became an original land set after the sequel trilogy and... no, I don't agree with you on that. Like, if I was gonna visit Disneyland's Galaxy's Edge, it should be someplace familiar to a guest like Tatooine, Naboo, etc. And at WDW, some other planet in the extended Star Wars universe. That would've driven attendance and made both resorts unique enough so families could visit them both in different times. Culturally, what some locals (myself included here in California) were wanting with Disney doing Marvel and Star Wars in the Disneyland Resort was a third gate of some kind, like just place both in a third gate with Avatar and call it Disney Adventure World (like that recently renamed WDS in Disneyland Resort Paris.) I personally thought it was dumb to be placing Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland especially when it featured Star Tours, but when the new land opened, it was different enough and the new land was designed for Disneyland (not so much in WDW. JUST, WDI! PLEASE THINK OF FLORIDAN WEATHER SOMETIME WHEN BUILDING NEW THINGS in WDW!!! Wide open spaces in Toy Story Land with no shade is not fun!) Culturally, I understand Disney didn't want to be creatively blocked in with building any one specific planet when designing Galaxy's Edge land (and also for budgetary reasons too.) BUT, Disney building both Galaxy's Edges was due in part as a response to Universal's Harry Potter lands (oh look, both feature an up charged activity.) Same with the Fantasyland Forest and Dumbo's Circus in Fantasyland at the Magic Kingdom. In the case of version one of the Fantasyland Forest, that was mainly originally designed with girls, food and meet'n'greets in mind (with duplicate little mermaid dark ride from DCA, expanded dumbo and a Tinker Bell ride as the new rides.) Culturally though, too many guests complained there wasn't enough rides for boys, so Seven Dwarf's Mine Ride was built and two meet'n'greets spaces got axed along with Tinker Bell's ride and her meet'n'greet. Guess what got built in Fantasy Springs? That cancelled Tinker Bell ride (which honestly has a purpose at Fantasy Springs and looks great! Definitely aesthetic wise reminds me the old Helmich Chew Chew Train which should've been placed in Pixar Pier, but I digress.) Anywho, my point is culturally, lots of people wanted to walk in any one of the Star War's planets and instead, we got this original planet which was designed for Disneyland in mind (and woefully placed next to Toy Story Land in DHS with no lifesize Kenner branded boxes that say "Galaxy's Edge playset.") Like, I think what guests wanted versus what they got isn't close in Galaxy's Edge and that's why some parts of Fantasy Springs like a version of the Tangled boat ride, should come to the United States (especially in the Disneyland Forward.) For WDW: maybe, but only if they double decker Magic Kingdom's inner Fantasyland courtyard for dark ride because it's not using forced perspective and therefore, they can get away with it!!!! Sorry, end rant.

My big question for the future going forward is, could the overwhelming success of this expansion and the pettiness of Walt Disney management jeopardize their relationship with OLC. OLC has basically put the other Disney resorts to shame. Fantasy Springs exposes the corner cutting and penny pinching of the US parks, especially with the comparison of their Frozen attractions. But Disney does NOT like being made a fool of. Disney has had a lot of hopes with their fantasy area of Disney Adventure World, and after seeing the attractions in Fantasy Springs, I can’t imagine anyone will have the same level of enthusiasm. It sort of depends on your faith in the individuals currently in charge at Disney. There are three outcomes here. 1. Disney learns nothing from this, as usual. 2. This becomes a wake up call to Disney to put quality and guest experience first before cost cutting and upcharge experiences. 3. Disney takes the low road, and acts in a way that strains their relationship with OLC. Such as trying to raise the licensing fees, or trying to put more pressure on them to instigate changes to the Tokyo park. I’m just worried is all. If Disney management’s pride is as fragile as I fear it is, then we should be concerned going forward.

THE ANSWER TO THE TITULAR QUESTION IS ON THE THUMBNAIL. FANTASY SPRINGS IS ABOUT TO OPEN NEXT MONTH IN JAPAN. THERE ARE CONTRASTS BETWEEN FANTASY SPRINGS AND ANY FANTASYLAND.

smiles when I see your thumbnails, can't wait for fantasy springs late sept. for me.

Can the oriental land company buy all of the Disney parks!!! They do so much stuff better!

On your point about repeating attractions, what do you suppose will become of Peter Pan’s Flight at Tokyo Disneyland? Will it be replaced by another Ip? I’m thinking Alice in Wonderland. Perhaps even Bambi or Mary Poppins! I could see them utilizing a real classic!

Keeping the exclusivity of each of the 12 theme parks is crucial for attracting visitors to enjoy unique experiences, and copying and pasting popular attractions doesn’t help with that. Disneyland in Anaheim and Walt Disney World have their own expansion plans. Galaxy’s Edge could only be found in the US parks, but people in Paris and in Asia aren’t asking for it. Those who want to experience Fantasy Springs and other attractions like Mystic Manor, should buy an airplane ticket, fly to Tokyo or Hong Kong, and have an experience for themselves, rather than yearning for Fantasy Springs to be built right next to your house. Why would international parks exist, is that it’s not just to provide Disney magic for the locals, but also giving them their own identity in where they could thrive with their uniqueness and exclusivity. That’s what makes each and one of them unique.

OLC ... Isn't Afraid To Put The Money Out...AND ... IT ... SHOWS !!!!! -- Tokyo DISNEYSEA .. Looks Amazing...Just Like Opening Day..GREAT Park !!!!!!! -- And .. "Beauty And The Beast" ..Show/Building And Ride.. IN. TDL .. WOW !!!!!!!

I kinda liked Disney sea not being totally Disney themed

I hate when they announce that a ride that is here in Orlando is going to be copied in Disneyland. Like both resorts dont have a whole lot of space left for good rides. And now you are gonna waste it on a carbon copy? Example. Galaxy's Edge shouldve been two separate eras in Star Wars. West Coast couldve got the Disney era of Star wars and East coast would have the original and prequel era. Ride track would be the same but the ride would be different. Like Dinosaur and Indy. And you wouldve had different characters and experiences. Also food and merch would've been different. I dont go to a parl to do the same thing I couldve done back home. Why fly out there to do that? No reason. Thats what.

For California’s version. It’ll have to be separate due to space.

Why can’t they have multiple things for the same characters? (eg. 2 attractions for Peter Pan and 2 attractions for frozen)?

It would be very cool actually if California got a Frozen classic Fantasyland-style dark ride where the defunct motor boat cruise currently is. It would be so perfect in Fantasyland next to the Matterhorn and they could save DisneylandForward space for more valuable attractions other than Frozen Ever After! They may even have enough room for a restaurant in addition to create a mini Frozen area. I still prefer the Fantasyland attractions to Frozen Ever After just judging from videos alone.

@13:00 the problem with that is the assumption that the bespoke experience would be up to the same par. Current leadership has continuously dealt their hand here showing that's not true and they will ALWAYS cheap out stateside. Hot take, Avatar sucks, its 1 animitronic and a bunch of screens surrounded by well themed rocks. Also Guardians ruined the sight-line so they could drop a box in the park for yet another IP. Every else has been a terrible clone.

"Especially with all of the blue" What does that even mean? The DisneySea version literally has some blue light? I've been on the Indiana Jones Ride in Tokyo, and it's VERY similar to California. The only real difference I spotted was the lack of fire in the ride.

Oh ok

Fantasy Springs looks lovely. But it's basically an extension of Fantasyland. And it's easier to create something like this, because it's all IP based. I've noticed something else about a lot about many other theme park vloggers and even the Disney executives. Whenever a new land or attraction opens up at one park, many of them tend to push for a replication at other parks. It seems as if many of them want the parks to be homogenized. Why do they do this? Why can't they allow each Disney park to have some similar attractions and lands, and at the same time, allow others to be unique to each particular park? Is that too much to ask for? I say . . . allow Fantasy Springs be unique to Tokyo DisneySea.

The other issue fantasy springs solves (having just done DisneySea with a 5yo) is balancing the mix of family and thrill rides across the park. Just got to figure out when we can go again!

It does kind of make me sad when I hear that people think "more Disney" means "more IPs/characters"; even as a little kid, "Disney" to me meant more of an approach to, well, basically anything. Just imagine something interesting (the future, dinosaurs, movie making, pirates, ghosts, etc.), and "Disney-fying" it meant approaching it with a particular creative, entertaining, sometimes informative style and presentation; even little kid me found Fantasyland to be the least interesting part of WDW since, well, I could just see most of those characters on tapes my family owned, right? That said, if Disney's going to add IPs, this feels like the way to do it: have a dedicated area for it, ala Fantasyland, but put real money and effort behind it to make it feel special, rather than shoehorning characters into every corner of parks that were never designed with them in mind. Of course, it's only working out this way because OLC is footing so much of the bill; over her stateside, I know the only things we can expect from Disney is more "IP-Land" additions at this point.

Fantasy Springs theming and creativity is indeed wonderful, it is this type of quality that should be at all Disney parks. However, the attractions relying on screens to tell the story instead of enhancing the story is a major drawback. also: Peter Pan looks like Avatars River Adventure at Animal Kingdom. Zootopia looks like a reworked Runaway Railway. Cost cutting like this is not the way to go

When you say "Disney Staples," I picture Imagineers assembling the facades of DCA 1.0 with a stapler 😂.

They have exclusivity agreements but their new Peter Pan land at Fantasy Springs is almost the same as Adventureland in Disneyland Paris (minus the rides)…so basically they can copy but we can’t 😅

People need to stop wishing Disney gives the US parks watered down copy-and-paste attractions. DisneylandForward needs to bring something unique to their expansions. Unlike Magic Kingdom where the majority of guests are families with young children, a good portion of guests for Disneyland are Californian adults with annual passes. It is time for corporate to step up build a Disney villains themed land which is much needed for the resort! Disney Villains land should take over the 20 acre lot west of the Disneyland Park with it being the second gateway to Disneyland. Really don’t like the idea of IP lands mainly focused on a single brand doesn’t not feel like the Disneyland Walt intended to create. Discovery Bay/Dumbo’s Circus Land should have been built instead of Galaxy’s Edge. Batuu is generic and Avengers Campus is a bland concrete land that both lack the timeless kinetic energy that will become irrelevant quickly. And with Bob Iger proposing Avatar to come to Disneyland is not a good sign.

I think Sindbad could be added to Morocco at EPCOT

The problem with what you’re saying is that the brand new additions at our home resorts lack the quality that the Tokyo rides get. We got a weak avengers campus with a horrible spiderman ride and an unnecessary retheme to a classic ride while they got 4 great new rides at Disney sea. If the quality was equal there would be no complaining

How times have changed. Now a “measly“ 30 m dollar version for inferior Winnie ride at Disneyland. In 1955, 7m to build entire Anaheim park.

1983 not 1982

If any Disney resort needs a "Tokyo Disney Resort" injection, it's Disneyland Paris. Their capacity is dreadful! They actually have signs in front of the Walt Disney Studios Park saying "We're at capacity, try the park next door" and "Might we suggest coming back after 15.00?". One Tangled flatride rip-off of the Efteling's Sirocco and a Frozen darkride will not address this. DLP needs a whopper of a capacity upgrade like Fantasy Springs.

One of the downsides of the Tokyo Disneyland given that Disney is a co owner of this park.

They already stated Tangled and Arendale from Tokyo could be part of the park expansion for Disneyland Forward though. And it cuts cost to have duplicates of rides anyway,so there is always a chance.

Frozen

Im pretty sure they’ll add Disney Fantasy Spring to California in Disneyland Forward project with Frozen which is very popular around the world. And they probably add Beauty of the Beast to Fantasy Spring and of course Rapunzel boat ride as well.

The Thumbnail kinda spoiled it.

I hate the idea of all the parks becoming homogeneous, it just reeks of "corporate synergy" garbage.

I’m happy for it to remain in DisneySea, to give me an excuse to go back to Tokyo!

Frozen is my favorite Disney movie. Frozen ever after is a great ride but it was rushed and shoehorned into Epcot. This fantasy springs version is above and beyond anything I could want. But I don’t think they should tear down the Epcot version. I think it belongs there in Tokyo and not in Orlando. But I wonder if frozen 3 is a hit and then frozen 4 etc would Disney be forced to make a move and make frozen a bigger part of the domestic parks. Only time will tell.

We have it. It’s called the new fantasyland. Little mermaid ride > Peter Pan. Snow White coaster > short tangled ride. Dumbo > lame tinker belle ride. They do get us with frozen.

the main difference is the ownership. disney as the owner is the downfall of disney somehow 😂😂 Oh how disney has changed🤦

To me, other than the original Disneyland Park and its famous attractions going into other countries versions of Disneyland, no park should copy rides from other parks. I also feel if a park copies The Haunted Mansion, say, or Peter Pan's Flight, each park should feature 2 to 3 unique scenes found only in that park, along with all the classic scenes found at the Disneyland original. The world is FULL of imaginative people and amazing artists. Let's build amazing, unique parks in each country. I'm tired if copy, copy, copy. Also, Disney REALLY needs to understand what the world wants before building an entire park! Disney's California Adventure? How in the world did THAT ever get past the idea stage? No offense, but it's a horrible idea! A whole theme park based on a state? A state that that park is already in? What a waste

Huh

Star Wars and Marvel are not and never will be, Disney. I wish they would get rid of the Star Tours rides from all its parks and replace them with something quintessentially, 'Disney'

People are forgetting that construction costs (incl wages and material) have ballooned over the past decades relative to the cost of everything else. US parks aren’t getting a Fantasy Springs-sized addition anytime in the next 10 years.

I can't help but wonder if Tokyo will get rid of the classic Peter Pan's Flight now.

Don’t hold your breathe over anything this nice coming to WDW.

"Nope" about sums it up. Another reason? Disney has to get some diversity into its stateside parks. Not just Tiana, but Moana, Encanto and Black Panther are simply more important right now than Rapunzel. Also, Moana and Encanto have been the most-popular movies on Disney+ for years. Double whammy right there. You're right to not talk up Disneyland Forward, because it's totally not going to be a thing for at least a decade. They're talking about spending $1.9B to $2.5B in the next decade. After putting Pandora in Hollywood Land, there's not much left, certainly not for Fantasy Springs-level construction. Disneyland has long "promised" Frozen Ever After in the Wonderbra Theater, so that could be a thing. Galaxy's Edge has room for another ride. With Tiana's, a plussed-up Haunted Mansion, and some new Star Tours films, I'm sure Disneyland will feel it's done more than enough just adding one attraction... and expanding Downtown Disney!

The main problem with that "would you rather" is that not everyone can just go to Japan to visit all their cool exclusive stuff. I love watching these videos about cool things at Disney and other parks here and away, but there's no way I and a lot of people could afford to go to an outside US Disney location to check out the new exclusive stuff they have.