The Value of This Sleeping Bag Liner is Insane! - Carinthia Grizzly Sleeping Bag Liner Review 

@Christopher D Defence 1 + Defence 4 = Defence 5 + Grizzly = Defence 7

My buddy has this and the sleeping bag, and we bought swagmans this year. He loves it. I have yet to bite the bullet and buy the sleeping bag/liner, but there were plenty of nights where my swagman was fine by itself so I can only surmise that these two would make a great piece of kit together.

Yeah watching this I'm all "Luke that ain't a liner, that's a summer bag!"

My 20 degree EE bag is ALMOST half that size !! If the weather permits that would be a good stand alone back in the summer. I have no idea what Luke wears when he's out at night in The Great outdoors but that is going to significantly change for each one of us and thus the temp rating/comfort. Here in the desert in summer if I could take my skin off I would 😂

I'm the same...It's like a chunky nugget for just a liner. Must add...I sweat in fleece. Easily.

@@trakyboy5128 What do you use? I generally use a Snugpak Jungle Bag as my main summer bag because I like the bug net if I'm using a tarp shelter, and I sometimes use a Sea to Summit Reactor liner and/or woobie with it if I need extra warmth. I have one of the older US Modular Sleep Systems for colder weather, but it's so damn bulky and heavy. I wouldn't be against finding ways to make more use of the jungle bag.

@@wanderingcalamity360 I literally just re-discovered my Jungle bag with Mozzie/bug protection hood in the garage the other night. I moved here a few years ago and forgot it in the move. Coming into Summer here...it will be perfect! Cheers!

Same cost or slightly more and more warmth and less weight.

@@Tellez.43 Have you used both? I let me buddy borrow my Reactor liner for our last backpacking trip, but I have yet to use it. He loved it, but I'm still trying to determine if it's worth the cost. The Carinithia appears to be twice as large, twice as heavy, but about the same cost

I am a side sleeper too. Check out the Big Agnes Sidewinder bag, perfect for side sleepers.

Hi, I have used a Sea to Summit Reactor Inlet for the AT, with a summer sleeping bag, same or even warmer, half weight, half or less pack size, same price or even cheaper then the Carinthia. StS has no zipper but after the 2nd or 3th night it doesn't matter.

@@swissguy8052 Thanks for the info….gonna check it out….doe REI have it in their stores to see…if not any suggestions on a store I can see it in would be appreciated….Thanks again and Merry Christmas!!!

Merry x-mas too 🎄 and yes REI have them, check with your zip code if the nearest store have it on stock

Yep, I am, and have! I bought the complete system as it was then, over 20 years ago, which is two bags, a separate inner and outer to make up the one complete system, and as I say this must have been well over twenty years ago now. I used it regularly for camping in the UK - ie. Scotland, Wales and England (and just one of the bags in Spain in a mild winter there, once). And the two combined bags worked very well down (for me) to early winter-ish or at least, very late autumns, as it gets here in the UK. It was not warm enough at all though I found, in too much colder than it gets below freezing temperatures. Although I did once or twice trial it in cold mid winters, but always had to use extra layers of clothes to wear inside as well, to stay comfortably warm. But maybe I just sleep cold unlike Luke! Fibre pile and pertex outer on both inner and outer, on the version I bought - I believe now there are more options. Including now in a variety of colours. Back then it was either olive green or olive green! Your choice! Interestingly one feature on the outer, heavier, thicker bag of the two, was that it had arm zips, one each side of the bag for one's arms to go through so that one could essentially sit in it with it's hood up too, while maybe eating a meal at camp. It also has, or had, a double zip running the length over the whole face so one could literally zip out your face completely from the cold as much as was needed. Both bags of course were also centre zipped. I have always much preferred centre zip bags over left or right. In the end after various experiments with it I stopped using and carrying both the inner and outer bags, as it was much too heavy and bulky, for me at least. With Both squashed up as tight as you can get it still nearly filled a half of a large rucksack and weighed a great deal too. It did have all the advantages going for it that it is always advertised as having (as long as one ignores weight and bulk), but for me the total bulk and massive weight of the whole system was just too much to haul around, as compared to other types of bags and materials available, even then, so in the end I eventually adapted and customized it to my own needs. Meaning I came to a point where I just carried either one or the other, the inner or the outer, never both again at the same time, so as to reduce weight and bulk. And instead teamed sometimes just one of the bags (usually the outer Buffalo, which I preferred due to it's nice, cleverly zipped hood) with another more standard, but lighter weight, non Buffalo synthetic bag which are not usually as bulky, or heavy warmth for warmth, weight for weight, in my opinion as pile fibre bags. For three season use I just used and carried for a time the outer bag, but I cut out, then re-sewed back, the two arm zips to reduce the weight of it a little. The arm zips was not a feature I found I ever used too much anyway in practice and I never missed them, and the two zips added unnecessary weight. And this I find worked great, just the outer bag alone, and in colder weather if combined with extra clothes say (instead of the other Buffalo inner) when necessary, for most 3 season use in the UK. I never ever went back to using the complete system again, and was just glad to get rid of some of that bulk and weight. I still now to this day have both bags, and they are both still completely usable and serviceable, so can guarantee and credit them from experience their absolute durability, and genuine longevity and toughness. The price for that toughness is their weight and bulk - but I now no longer use either of them for outdoor camping as such, I instead use them just for sitting around in sometimes pulled around my legs when relaxing, in cold winters in chilly outdoor garden sheds, etc... They would also be greet as back up in vehicles for emergencies, or for vehicle camping of course etc., where their weight and bulk would not matter so much... What's your experience of them?

Yes, kind of. Of course it has added details in shape and finishing.