The Venetian Arsenal: From City-State to World Power 

Its also sad to see the lack of information looking into the Venetian arsenal into the years after Lepanto and the age of sail, with its incredible innovations such as the first super frigates, the family of Fregata Grossa.

Long live the trading empire of Venice.

The damned nymphs are still running the world today!

They basically made them afraid of Naval Warfare.

odegaard Well I hear you. But then there is Salamis, Navarino, Trafalgar, Midway... many more..

@@safeysmith6720 none of those are ottoman naval battles, even at Gallipoli they mostly preferred to stay on the hills and fire onto the ships

He was comparing Lepanto with the fall of Cyprus (1570-1572). Obviously no excuse to lose a trained fleet, even if Cyprus is the third biggest island in Med. The exact quote I believe was "we cut the arm of the Venice in Cyprus (1570-1573), you only shaved our beard at Lepanto" Sokullu Mehmet Pasa . The Peace treaty signed in 1573 following the deployment of a less experienced Ottoman fleet with approximately 250 ships in East Med.

the Ottoman let the Venice still making their business, they even had trade with Venice, even after the Lepanto event! this was thanks also to their great diplomats and not only because of their ships!! we can say what we want about today's Italian government, but the West should always be thankful for what they give us, Columbus discovered a new continent, Amerigo Vespucci give the US te name "America", because he was the first to know,this is a new continent! I think Italy is so rich on culture thanks to the Roman Empire, they brought people from all over the known world to the peninsula! Grazia Italia

And so? We are talking about Venice here.

@@joefriday8607 Didn't you watch the video ? The battle of Lepanto is the subject of half of it

Right my friend, they shot his hand. El manco de Lepanto.

It also makes you see how much bigger the world and its history is, it really expands your comprehension of many things. If people had the habit of studying as much history as possible on all kinds of nations, periods and cultures, the world would probably be a better place.

Yeah, it's often overlooked in history class but Venice was a truly incredible state. Lasting about a thousand years its republic is the longest lasting single form of government in history. For a time it was one of the economic powerhouses of Europe and the most powerful fleet on the Mediterranean. Long live La Serenissima!

Just for your information.. Istria peninsula belongs to the same territory of the Italian peninsula, It's just a part of It as far as Istria falls under the Alps and was always inhabitated by neo-latin people. After 1945 the region is under Croatian occupation

@@davidetoffoletto9981 lol

It has a lot of similarity with Britain. Its core is protected by sea so it cannot be attacked by land forces and it can solely concentrate on navy.

​ @Chris Pacman But that is the thing, it is not like Britain. Venice was always small city state surrounded by many much more powerful nations. Yes their position is great, North the Alps, South the sea, but still. They somehow made it, not only to defend their position but expand far beyond. I'm not sure what their population was , but I can imagine it was low compared to others or their neighbors like Bavaria, Croatia, Hungary, Austria, Ottomans depends on the timeline and position. And the west, full of small competitive Italian city states, with better armies. To me Venice or Genoa are anomalies with great success. I respect them a lot.

kind of sad as that battle marked a turning point in history

mein medieval 2 total war

I'm playing as Florence right now and I'm conquering Venice. But... I think I'll release the city of Venice as a vassal state. Just because they're... Venice.

I think she missed a detail while doing north and south attacks, and the direction of the compass of the north is actually clockwise

Lol

flawlesslycan I mean Frederick was dead when Napoleon was conqeuering europe, so that assumption is pretty good of him

Rude capitalize Gustavus Adolphus.

Jerown! Marshal Turenne was dead then, too.

Napoleon had deep respect for Frederick II but he might have been right, French generals were insane in their art of war.

The romans gave legionari who finished the service land

@@jacopofolin6400 Right. And it wasn't really a pension so much as a method of keeping the armies loyal and the provinces placid and Roman.

Morgan Robinson it’s kinda sorta ify maybe a pension. I mean you can make the argument it is.

Land and money part of the Marian reforms

@@rollout1984 That's what my studies have lead me to believe. They received land as well as a cash pension after their completion of there service. Some details did change from time to time however depending on who was Emperor.

Venice was never great!!!

@rvtrcr More like someone who doesnt like sneaky people and financial oligarchies. I.E a sane person.

@rvtrcr No, Im a happy person that values healthy things in life. Enjoy the reset, you decadent pansy wastrel.

@rvtrcr Just so you know, nothing in my last post was spelled incorrectly. Apostrophes are punctuation, not spelling. I feel sorry for you, your life must be empty and without meaning if mammon is your measure of worthiness. Well good luck, because the 777 period in the great cycle is here, therefore everything is being tipped upside down. I'd explain it to you , but what would be the point?

@rvtrcr I'm glad that you feel driven to such venom to defend corruption, that tells me I'm on the right track. Meanwhile Donald Trump's age on his first day in office was: 70 years 7 months 7 days . What a coincidence! www.calculator.net/age-calculator.html?today=06%2F14%2F1946&ageat=01%2F21%2F2017&x=49&y=12 . I have to say it is Schaadenfreude but I am enjoying the squealing of all the people who thought they were powerful, as Trump and the US Mil destroy the NWO in short order. Every person involved in 'Pizza' or 'Feeding the Eye' is going to die, swiftly. I hope for your sake you are just some stupid rich kid LARPing about being important.

Really? Can you give me a link for that? I’d like to read about it!

@@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv I think Invicta or a different channel made video about carthaginian navy and they mentioned that Carthaginians indeed used standardised parts for their ships, and could also produce massive quantities of ships in a relatively short time.

Nope.

Thanks. :)

The most serene Venice is Great!

What Italy? Italy has always had a city state feel to it.

@@TransoceanicOutreach Cry because you're jealous 😌

that's correct but ¿why do you say that? ¿as a fun fact?

@@alecity4877 Fun fact? La santa liga fue liderada por los comandantes hispanos y solo así se pudo contener el avance turco.

@@0LMG me tuviste que haber lñeido en algún otro sitio para saber que yo hablo español, ¿donde?

@@alecity4877 Creo que se dio cuenta que hablabas español en el momento que pusiste el signo ¿ al principio de tu pregunta.

Como sabras, los angloparlantes no ponen este signo "¿" al inicio de las preguntas.

Is that still such a big thing in Italy? Since you guys were mostly self governed as smaller city-states. It doesn't really suprise me that sentiment is still there. I guess you never really lose your roots... :)

@@wu1ming9shi from the '90 it is bigger and bigger, especially in venetian territories, in 1997 a group of Venetian indipendentists occupied st March square with a tank declaring the indipendence of Venice from the Italian state, last Sunday venetian flags have been banned from the football field of Padua cause italy repress all form of regional identity, despite Venetian is even not recognized as a language by italian government it is the most spoken language here in Veneto (the Italian region of Venice), in fact 80% of population here still speak venetian, and much more venetian immigrants speak venetian in Brazil nowadays.

Ma di che cazzo parli? Chi ha detto che non insegnano le repubbliche marinare in Italia? Che scuole hai fatto tu scusa?

@@gabrielenicoli5065 La storia delle repubbliche marinare è relegata a poche pagine dei libri di testo, la storia degli stati italiani in genere è poco trattata, compresa quella della repubblica di Venezia, che nonostante sia stata una superpotenza durata più dell'impero Romano viene trattata poco e male, si parla solo della battaglia di Lepanto e di poche altre cose, rispetto a mille e cento anni di storia

@@karlitowankenoby3000 vero

And the oldest bank in the world still operating In Siena... before 1492

Do they still pull all the strings ?

With all due respect I would like to point out that America was discovered in 1492 and that the first ocean routes began to exist. Before the discovery of America, however, there were routes of Venetian ships that carried out regular service between the Mediterranean and the ports of Northern Europe; England and Flanders.

@@ezioauditore1522 Greetings, Ezio, how’s the liberation of Roma going? The video is focusing on the 16th century, not the 15th. Venice had no knowledge of how to sail beyond the Mediterranean Sea out into the Atlantic Ocean, let alone into the Indian Ocean, or into the Pacific Ocean for that matter, routes of which, at the time, were solely known by two states: Portugal & Spain. It was only in the early 1590’s that we began seeing other European states, more specifically England & Holland, acquiring the knowledge of how to accomplish this. The reason for it is quite fascinating in fact, a nearly hundred years old tale of espionage & counterespionage - would make a great A.C. series. As of such, yes, labeling Venice a 16th century World Power is rather inappropriate, even more so when the justification given for the claim is its navy, again restricted to the frequently disputed waters between the south of Europe and the north of Africa. Best regards. : ). Edit: I’d recommend the book entitled ‘Conquerors’ written by the world renown maritime author Roger Crowley.

And just remember that Venice developed the Galeon that was lately used by UK, France and Spain for their fleets. 😏 You still lives over the work of Italians.

@@danielefabbro822 Good afternoon. That’s actually not true, at all, and from an historical standpoint makes little sense: the galleon was intended primarily for ocean voyages, of which Venice had no activity in. The galleons developed following the ‘Carracks’ & ‘Naus’, both of which were developments created by the Portuguese. I’m hard pressed in wanting to know from where you took such an idea from, however, given that it completely contradicts everything we know about 16th century seafaring. Besides, there was no “Italy” during this time period, it was a geographical designation, much like Iberia is, not a nationality, reason why we’re talking about Venetians and not Italians, something that was formed only later in the second half of the 19th century - this is not to undermine technological developments that came from there, of which were many, but not in this field.

Because it was a video on Venice, who didn't use slave oarsmen, they banned slavery in 960 and even when they passed a reform in 1545 that allowed for prisoners to be conscripted into ships they only ever formed the crew of at most 2 ships in the Venetian navy.

@@FluffyFishy69 He is referring to the Christian slaves on the Ottoman ships.

For what I know, in the ancient military port of Cartage, ship parts were also mass produced and put together quickly, whereas the Romans built them entirely out of scratch. Do your own research, though.

while Rome did raise fleets time after time during the punic wars, there is a very good reason the punic wars lasted several decades... when a Roman fleet was destroyed replacing it wasn't as easy as for Venice. Carthage and Rome probably made significant advancements in manufacturing technology of ships but the Venitian arsenal was undoubtedly more sophisticated than either one of them

Guns. Roman's and carthaginians don't have guns. While Venice had some of the best of the time armed ships. Venice also introduced the Galeon. The main warship of the next centuries when UK, France and Spain rose to power to become colonial empires.

Well to be fair, those numbers may have been inflated, not even out of propagandistic reasons, it's just that record keeping was not as concise in antiquity as compared to the early modern era

​@@danielefabbro822el galeón no es veneciano, es portugués y luego español, los venecianos no les gustaba los navíos de solo vela, España y Portugal los crearon para hacer las rutas de alta mar

@walter cuperidge Was it the introduction of the 8 meter mobile bridges that did the trick for the Roman Navy?

@walter cuperidge Ooh. Thanks, mate!

true..

and who do you think would be next?

Certainly not _The Empire on Which the Sun Never Sets_ (Spanish Empire), 'cause apparently they were the only ones that could stop them in their tracks.

lepanto without venice galeazze you would be muslim now.

@nlpjohn The battle of St. George Fort says otherwise. Brave Spaniards like Gonzalo de Cordoba have been defending Venice for centuries. And yes, they were defending Italy because Italy was part of the Spanish Empire.

The ambitions towards England were carried over by the Genoese and Florentine bankers. Among other things, these debts have never been honored by this kind of gentlemen.

Voilà... Someone that likes to despise anything that comes from Italy.. and I am not surprised considering his nationality.

indeed, it was also the longest-lived government known to man in my knowledge.

Not the same no guns on ancient roman and punic ships

It was Napoleon that ended Venice. Since then it’s only an Open Air Museum sadly

Indeed. It sounds like one of those videos with automated voices

The city of fortune

@@josh6028 Thank you very much

Pathetic comment

He would have needed also Italian crews... 😑 French wasn't so good at sea.

When Napoleon conquered Venice... Venice was already finished... not great achievement

@@enricomanno8434 lol

Probably, initially the britts was "fish of fresh waters"... Only later they became skilled sailors. And right now their naval power is declining, while ours (Italy) is rising again.

Inglaterra se salvó por una tormenta no por su habilidad naval. Esto se ve que un año después la armada inglesa envió una contrabando más grande que la que envió España, pero está no fue destruida por un huracán como el caso español, fue destruida a puro cañonazo, Inglaterra intentó numerosas veces atacar las posesiones españolas, pero de forma directa nunca lo consiguió