The Vergil Effect - How to Make a Good Rival 

He's just a big fan of Vergil that's all 😐

@@chickenmeme_4768 don't we all are

So did I lol

Well, he had to give some room for those INFERIOR rivalries just to not piss people off.

@@KhoiV Aren't*

Its great, right? Right after you threw a giant machine in the air, Sam comes in and kicks yoir ass. And it turns out...he didn't even have enhancements. And yet Raiden had to throw half his body away to deal with him.

I mean the suit helps alot

@@archie6890 the suit is just armor, this man sliced a metal gear in half without any cybernetic enhancements

@@thegreathambino9561 the suit is an exoskeleton

@@thegreathambino9561 The suit actually enhances the user's capabilities so he can compete against cyborgs. Also, he wields what is probably the best high frequency blade in the world

This. My favorite boss fights are exactly these, where the boss never runs, just walks around you, knowing you're just a nuisance to them

Senator Armstrong intensifies, like he never actually run, except for a few dash attacks to say

Eh, that's not why Vergil walks though. His fighting style is a 'focus' based moveset based on precise movements.

@@OneEyedCloud01 Vergil only exerts when necessary and that's one of my favorite qualities about him. He's stylish, but he's not a showboat in the traditional sense. Precise, elegant, and somewhat simple- so simple that I consider it art. Vergil is the perfect rival/foil to Dante's bombastic, campy, over the top style. If I was fast as Vergil I wouldn't even approach an opponent unless there's an opening or something to exploit and he does that perfectly.

Oh, you are approaching me

That same thought was running through my mind as I watched this video lol

TheXell Jetstream Sam and Armstrong are pretty terrifying.

@@senatorarmstrong7071 armstrong is a human-metal gear hybrid.

Yeah when said humanoid can tank skyscraper size demons lol

@@returnedtomonkey8886 no he is just a man who have nanomachines... son

Now I'm motivated

Of course he is, I wouldn’t have it any other way.

Right?! Lol

Six Peace Vergil is the definition of motivation lol

Its his catchphrase

What was he supposed to do, let his style meter drop below S?

Dante could actually be arguably smarter than Vergil. We're not all too sure what Vergil does off screen. We do know he tries his strength against other devils. Nelo Angelo is an enslavement of Vergil, he was used as a device to attempt to destroy Dante, just like Trish was. Mundus wasn't expecting for Dante to recognize his brother and go easy on him, which left Vergil alive but wounded. While yes, they both do develop by testing their strength against assumed stronger foes, Dante seems to go back to his tried and true Ebony and Ivory plus Rebellion/large bastard sword, while Vergil appears to sort of absorb the extra weapons he gains. Of course DMCV changes this somewhat, but again Dante seems to already know it's his brother driving the Armageddon machine (and it looked to me that he had his suspicions about V being related to the Sparda line somehow.) His assumed stupidity could be the way he crafted himself to lure in some of the worst Devil lords (excluding DMC 3), plus his attractant as one of Sparda's son and/or being half blooded. He does sort of point out that Vergil and his own human blood is what makes them stronger than what just being a devil would have. Which is true considering the near constant world ending foes they face (constant training?). Other media also shows that Dante does have at least the same amount of cunning as Vergil, just that he's not fully used to how devils of the caliper to actually hurt him act.

@@Vlad2319 Dante is smarter because he never hooked up. Vergil? **Sigh** _D i s a p p o i n t i n g_

@@Vlad2319 In Marvel Vs Capcom 3, both Dante and Vergil have the same exact stats in terms of the power level. Except in the intelligence category, where Vergil is one point over Dante. So yeah. Canonically, Vergil has one more braincell than Dante.

@@Skallva Vergil just had to get the superiority in, even if it's not flattering

There are few things that feel more degrading than DMC's easy automatic mode

The biggest insult in DMC, and gaming history in general.

Wilson I dunno, the lengths Ninja Gaiden Black goes through to make sure you feel like utter worthless crap for unlocking and playing Ninja Dog Mode, lol.

2 shirtless boys fighting in the rain

I remember when I first played Ninja Gaiden Black and accidentally unlocked Ninja Dog difficulty and hearing Ayane berate me, I felt like the game just challenged me by telling me I wasn't good enough. So in my salty fury I started the game from the very beginning and beat it. Was a very satisfying moment for me.

Only the real knew about this ⚡😎😎💯

Vergil was a power ranger the whole time.

@@willnorman-bargo I'm just ready for him to whip out the quantum morpher

@@velinaastrid4876 vergil: Dante! This time is will win because I have a power you don't even know about. Whips out quantum morpher. Vergil: it's morphine time!

I need more quantum POWER

Wicked The Mad Hatter Another interesting thing to note is that Vergil styles his hair in the same manner of his father sparda (you can unlock Spardas human costume in DMC3) - a clear reference to Vergils obsession with being more like his father and pursuing his demonic heritage.

@@RU-vidMadeMePickHandle dmc5 shows sparda and he looks fairly close to Beethoven (he also looks like a creepy perve

@@wickedthemadhatter9713 XD

Plus Vergil actually wear clothes. In the non cannon novels, they're armour underneath.

@@magicmanscott40k yeah his vest does look extremely similar to armor

I don't know man, umm.. Sesshomaru?

So edgy

@@raidoukuzonoha883 As edgy as the blade he wields lmao

Jessie Sewell the thing is shadow isn’t edgy and he’s the most iconic rival in gaming

Jessie Sewell it wasn’t until shadow the hedgehog where sega made him an emo

better yet, he knows how to punish bad behavior, its why when people call DMC3 a button masher, you know they havent played the game. vergil wont allow the player to succeed in button mashing, on the contrary, he has built in counters that will destroy dante if the player attempts to do it.

no

In the cutscences, Vergil beats Dante and then spares him and tells him to come back stronger. As evil as Vergil is, he guides Dante the whole time and he expected him to get to the top of the tower, knowing what demons guarded it. He really was a mentor the whole time.

@@magicmanscott40k More of a rival that wants to prove he's better than Dante I suppose.

@@magicmanscott40k Well, they're brothers after all.

DMC 3 has been my favorite game since I was in middle school and it came out. I have played so many titles and admittedly there are many great games that have come out since this game, including DMC 5. But this games amazing story and combat always bring me back to it. Vergil is by far my favorite rival/ boss in a video game.

I agree!

Not to mention how his character perfectly contrasts Dante's. It really made me want to beat his ass just to prove who was better, and it's the main reason the character sticks with me still.

You said it perfectly!

Meh... I think mega man and proto man was the blueprint for dante and vergil.

What's the sauce?

@@koleszgdanska7149 Street Fighter 3: 3rd strike

I am so pity of you no one respone your comment😁

@Just Some Guy with a Mustache • At this point, I've decided to like every one of your comments that I see just to encourage you to continue using whatever sorcery it is that allows you to do this.

Hey.... Ive seen you before... You really are everywhere aren't you?

No make it say easy mode is now selectable

I've seen you everywhere, just like your opposite twin

1.2k likes and no comments?

Yeah, metal gear rising's music is very memorable. It's amazing. When I'm old and loopy, it'll probably be the only thing I know for real.

@@kinorris1709 **suplexes metal gear**

Just Some Guy without a Mustache yeah honestly the timing and style of the boss music in MGR:R is done amazingly well, more than most other games. Like DAMN, those lyrics starting at the climax of the battles are so exhilarating.

@@Ianadaya Yeah, it's the best shit ever. My only gripe with it is that so many people never fought Sundowner with the lyrics, who you can force into phase 2 very close to the start of the fight. He should have been stronger, and forced you to put him in phase 2. And then they flipped it on it's head with Sam and Steven with the lyrics playing from the start and only disappearing when the murasama is not in play. Pure eargasmic music. All the way through.

That's way too true

Hmmm Im not sure about that, pretty sure Vergil didn't know Dante Devil Trigger would activate from being impaled by the Rebellion. Vergil's only goal in that game was to get the power of Sparda and Dante had something he needed and once he got it he didn't care about him. Also in DMC5 it was made very clear that they intended to kill each other until Nero came along to stop them. Yes they love each other but both have duties to themselves that is more important to them, Dante wants to keep humanity safe and Vergil wants power no matter the cost, making Vergil a threat to humanity(literally cause hundreds of people to die twice) and Dante the obstacle to Vergil's plans.

@@anthonyroberts7486 vergil was fully aware that would awaken dantes devil trigger as he doesnt seem at all surprised and thats how his own was awakened. Vergil goads dante into leaving the demon world and even stays inside it so dante can escape aswell as cuts his hand so dante doesnt grab him to prevent him falling off the cliff. Dante didnt want to kill vergil and vergil didnt want to kill dante in dmc5 but they are running out of options as vergil wants to prove his superiority once and for all while dante as you said cant let vergil keep putting all these lives in danger, its more a necessity than a desire which is where nero comes in, nero gives vergils life a purpose outside of a quest for power that is born from an inferiority complex and shows him another way and the end cutscene in the underworld shows this where they are fighting still but not with intent to kill. vergil and dante do care about eachother even love eachother although neither one would ever admit it but the subtext is there.

They care about each other and don't _want_ the other person to die, but paradoxically they would kill each other. It's heavily implied that the blow Nero stops would've killed either both or one of them, and in 3 Dante clearly says "I have to stop you. Even if that means killing you." Again, clearly Dante doesn't want to kill him as he cries later in the game (and has depression in the anime).

One thing I love about Dante and Vergil's relationship is that in DMC3, they're angry at each other in every scene, and even though Dante doesn't want to kill Vergil at the end, he's still willing to do it. It's such a serious scene that even Dante can't crack his usual smile. Then we see them reunite in DMC5, and Vergil, completely different from how he was in 3, actually gives Dante a chance to rest and recover. And when they showdown at the top of the tree, they actually are able to smile at each other, even if this fight will result in one of their death's once more. Even if the result is the same, I get the feeling they're happy to see each other, or happy to be back in something that feels familiar after everything that's happened to them.

FRUSTRATION IS GETTING BIGGER

They modded Vergil playable... he's stupidly OP.

@@CornBreadtm1 vid?

@@deathbringer9893 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Wt54Vyc_2Bw.html

maybe we get a SE in like 5 years

Sam's mask actually represents a bandana, as hes a combination of Samurai and Cowboy.

@@jadenmurray1325 you're both right at the same time

@@jadenmurray1325 Brazilian Samurai Cowboy Double Jump Jetstream Sam

And the eyes exposed show he is more human than the other bosses with their cybernetic enhancementa

And also the fact that Sam is fully organic with very few cyborg enhancements whilst Raiden on the other hand removed almost all of his organic parts in favor of a fully cybernetic body with the only exception that is his face

Yea it was pretty underwhelming. Not that I'd imagine if we did get an actual proper hand to hand boss fight with him it'd be anything to do backflips over as I suppose it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say the Freeflow combat system was never really built for for one on one battles, hence why Deathstroke's fight in Origins was more or less abit of a QTE fest.

Hope they did that battle like how they did deathstroke in origins

That's a weird way of spelling modern Pokemon.

Bully also suffers from this. By the end of the game, you're facing Gary, the guy who almost single-handedly took over Bullworth and put everybody against you. The problem is that when you get to face him, you are so Overpowered that the final boss of the game, is easiest than the first one. btw english is not my first lenguage so sorry any grammar errors :(.

@@HardRock17 Nah, you got your point across just fine, and I actually agree with you. Even after the game takes away your weapons, by the time you have your final battle against Gary you're already so beefed up from training CQC with the homeless guy that you beat him in less than two minutes.

Funny you say that lol. After all; Might Control Everything :P

I feel exactly the same, except for that I found the Killer Bee method to negate the difficulty of the last Vergil fight on my first run and felt immensely disappointed

Who you telling I wint in on bloody palace to grind all of my skills

@@WOLVERINEDX And without strength, you can't protect anything.

"Being able to stay in Devil Trigger as long as he" I call hax, there's no way to pull that off without a gameshark.

which is contrasting again.. black to white and red accents to blueish ones

Their contrast in shape also comes in with the hair and applies in both games: short and long

It's partly because Umbral Witches weave their hair for their magic, and the "outfits" Bayonetta and Jeanne are wearing in their final encounter/playable form are woven from their hair, which is why using their Wicked Weaves and summoning abilities cause their suit to "unravel" off of them. They're literally wearing their hairdo as a bodysuit, and Bayo's hair is black while Jeanne's is white. There's also the additional overhang of hair/plumage off of their sleeves. Bayonetta's outfit has sharp, straight, angular strips hanging off of her outfit, while Jeanne has fluffier, fuller, and more soft looking plumage-like poofs coming off of her sleeves. There's something to be said about these differences too, as far as appearance tying into their personality.

Yeah, her actual outfit in the last fight is her white Umbra Witch uniform.

Result?

He got SSS instead of A+

Might controls everything

without strengh you cannot protect anything let alone yourself

*_Show me your motivation_*

Truestyle tournament i guess. But its been so long from the last one

Closest game design can come to that is unwinnable boss fights.

More like: "Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of *TRICKSWORDTRICKROYALGUNSLSWORDTRICK* "

Play ninja gaiden black master ninja difficulty without using ninpo.. you will see hell 😂

Absolutely convinced Donguri is some sort of AI pretending to be a person. No mere mortal can style all over thier opponents that hard.

Rules of Nature!

@@vergil4855 AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP

Glad somebody remembered that relic. XD

Oh that guy broke me, all right. It made me realize I had to fight him very differently than the others. He actually improved my dodging skills, and after that, as I got better and better at the game, I looked forward to fighting him more and more. To the point in the second fight against Devil Hand, I always prepared my ultimate finisher. The BALL BUSTER. Just to rub in the disrespect and flex my Victory.

Same with me Right now in high-school There is a girl that is very very talented at drawing And when I say talented I mean it, she can draw a portrait so accurate that I couldn't tell if it was an printed picture or handrawn And I'm something of a artist myself But I'm leagues away from her lvl That made me develop an crush as well as jealousy And that inspired me to pick up on my artwork I even made a portrait of Sam and armstrong They aren't accurate but I give them a pass for proportions

I thought i was the only one who thought this. Metal Gear has always been known for it's characters in this way and the dmc story is so similar to MG.

Could you give me a quick explanation?

Could you explain the effect, please?

The *"Ocelot Effect"* is something like this: 1. A Backstabber 2. Master Manipulator 3. True Mastermind 4. The Side of either Good or Bad 5. Great Pretender 6. Testing it's Opponents (Especially the MC) 7. Pathological Liar 8. Double (Triple) Agent

@@joseurbina3835 you forget being really good at spinning revolvers

MinecrafterK3N yep, I just was thinking about Devil Hand and his awesome fights!

ahh it needs sequel

@@N0URii We need a Capcom Cult Classics Collection containing God Hand, Viewtiful Joe, and Asura's Wrath. Dang, I wanna see Asura's Wrath with a proper frame rate and non-pixel-blur textures so bad...

It being unpopular is the greatest injustice

God Hand? Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long while... *Hey Hey, people*

The Fights Against Azel Are Amazing, and His Theme Is Even More so, It's Sad That The People Here are Only Talking About DMC

But it isn't a rival relationship. It's a mentor student relationship.

@@tannertadlock7741 It's rivalal at first. Initially, all Nero sees is this "Dante" guy going around committing murder.

@@lugbzurg8987 From Nero's pov, perhaps. But in DMC4, Dante never took Nero (or anyone else in the game) seriously; he was in another league from everyone and everything else in that arc.

LOL

This is hilariously true😂

Saying weeb deflats your comment impact.

@@stardustdragonx3612I disagree, the point is still there. And what is more weeb than an overclocked katana that cuts through stuff it shouldn’t? Like *TIME AND SPACE* The Katana isn’t a bad sword by any stretch of the imagination, but this is silly strength.

Sorry to necro this, but it’s not even a full head. It’s literally just his brain, hair, and like, 1/2 of his head’s skin.

@@winsonlu3559 actually, he has a wig that's almost identical to his original hair (hence the infinite wigs A, B and Blade Mode) I'm pretty sure that Raiden is only a brain at this point and his head (and later body) is just covered in artificial skin.

@@VeraVemaVena that would explain why his head doesn’t get popped like a balloon against Armstrong

i was reading the comments expecting to see someone write that at some point, and i was not disappointed lol

appear today when I watch Chinese anime lol

SupermewX300 I mean Dante was the only one shirtless

@@Wildcard-Jack-47 it's an inside joke between fans of a beloved, albeit now dead, channel. RIP Super Best Friends Play.

yakuza is a character action tho, past kiwami 1, 3, and 6. every single game has another main character take the spotlight(majima, akiyama, and all that stuff).

I think Kuze works as well as he does because he has no similarities to Kiryu. Kuze looks at Kiryu and initially thinks he is a cowardly weakling who keeps using cheap tactics to just disrespect the old Yakuza code that Kuze lives and breathes. But, as the story goes on, Kuze comes to realize that Kiryu has his own strong code of ethics that he will not compromise, and it culminates in Kuze finally ceding that Kiryu is an equal, if not better man than he is.

Was looking for somebody to mention either Kuze or Goda.

You can be both wicked-smart and super stupid. Believe me, I've seen it.

@@bluethunderbolt9631 I am living proof of that statement

There's a fine line between genius and stupidity~ and Dante is moonwalking on that "fine line"~

@@DianaProudmoore Underrated comment.

Can you explain what you mean by a ghantz design?

@@derpfluidvariant0916 Google it dude, its not that hard.

I agree

hell yes.

Exactly his smoke attacks are a pain in the ass if you cant parry

The Vergil effect: making him playable in everything

Yeah, the only truly cybernetic part of him is his arm. The rest is just very minor upgrades and enhancements

@@TheDigitalDreamClub his suit is just as powerful as augments, though.

The opposite of Raiden's cybernetic killing machine body

Yep, to contrast Raiden being mostly cybernetic expect for his brain and the upper half of his face.

Nah, he's brazilian. Basically another species entirely

Endless Road Good call!

Don't you mean "responsive" rather than reactionary? Would you agree that Dante is more egalitarian, laid back and not caring about hierarchies in power and standing, whereas Virgil is all about ascending in a power hierarchy and looking down on those who refuse to. This makes me identify Virgil much more with the aristocracy of old (also see the long leather boots he wears) and Dante more with modern Rock stars generation. A duality "initiating a complex scheme" (calculating) versus "responsive to the surroundings" is probably a better opposition than "calculating versus reactionary".

Sid Lukkassen Sure. Responsive works. And yeah, I absolutely agree.

From Wiki: Which pairs of colors are considered complementary depends on the color theory one uses: Modern color theory uses either the RGB additive color model or the CMY subtractive color model, and in these, the complementary pairs are red-cyan, green-magenta, and blue-yellow. In the traditional RYB color model, the complementary color pairs are red-green, yellow-purple, and blue-orange. Opponent process theory suggests that the most contrasting color pairs are red-green, and blue-yellow. So while red-green is complimentary that doesn't mean red-blue (well, "red-cyan" but cyan is just light blue anyway) is not.

@@sidlukkassen9687 So many words to just say "calculating vs reactionary." Dante's character is very much reactionary in the way he lives life a point he drives home for us in the original Devil May Cry. The only time he is proactive about his job is when it specifically involves cleaning up after his father. The punk rock/metal counter culture was a reaction to the societal attempts to quash the rock and metal genres, including the people in them. To be reactionary is to be revolutionary which is why every major story of Dante is to overthrow some self-important, power hoarding, tyrant with a Sparda-boner (Arkham, Arius, Mundas, Sanctus). If that includes his own brother, which is does, then so be it.

My immediate thought.

I did

Me

Croz Raven yeah sesshomaru and especially Griffith are characters who are cold but yet you still love them even though Griffith turned evil I still like him a lot more than Guts.

My love My two loves Especially lord sesshomaru

Ah adachi that psycho yeah I love the contrast between yu and adachi even though I wouldn't call adachi a rival but he does have similar and different themes like a rival. Can't wait to get p5r

Especially because Yu's powers are derived are from his bonds with his friends, while Adachi's is tied to the LACK of bonds he has.

BRAZILIAN KENJUTSU

The masked lumen was a mediocre rival because his gameplay didn't mirror Bayonetta's new movesets, but he looks damn cool anyways so I let it slide.