@@bibleman8010 Which is NOT the RCC. It is the body of Christians - followers and believers in Jesus Christ, that's THE Church, not the man made institution that snatched that "title" for themselves.
@@MultiSky7 Although it’s true that in the earliest church writings you can find the word “catholic” in the texts, it was not meant in the same way as today. It was written with a lowercase and also meant “universal” for all the Christian believers everywhere throughout the world.
Before you pull down the fence, know the reason why the fence was put up in the first place. Catholic Church teaches the truth about Jesus and about our salvation. Jesus Christ has established his Church so that men may find salvation through her. When you reject the teachings of the Catholic Church which teaches about salvation through Jesus Christ, how do you expect to get saved? Jesus did not endorse any Protestant churches. Protestants are saved not because they belong to the true Church but because of Christ's mercy in spite of their errors in beliefs. In heaven, you will have to sit with the Catholics. Thete is no separate heaven for protestants. Front rows will be occupied by the Apostles and the martyrs of the Catholic Church. Then lots of Catholics from the time of the first century till the end of age will be there. Protestants will have to make themselves comfortable in the midst of Catholics in heaven. So, have second thought before condemning the Catholic Church. You may note that all protestant churches are manmade churches and unbiblical. All Protestant pastors are invalid, illegitimate, self styled pastors and their office is unbiblical. Therefore, protestantism has no leg to stand.
I used to be a catholic. The way I get through to catholics about this issue is this... either Mary wasn't a virgin until death, or she sinned against her husband (this is huge because catholics believe she is the "queen of heaven). Because not yielding your body to your husband (or visa versa) is sin and causes your spouse to be tempted.
and these verses showed me that roman catholics were wrong in their thinking that Mary was More Blessed, but here’s Jesus’s response: Luke 11:27-28 27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” 28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
@nicklopez8004 well said! Mary was a very blessed woman because YHWH chose her to bear His Son. But she was a sinner just like us, and it was only His grace and mercy that allowed for this honor.
@mattmurdock2868 I know, but that is what they call her. I also had a charismatic catholic say that she is "the co- redempter of the world." Catholicism is paganism with a Christian facade.
@catholictruth102 *Did Mary have other children?* There once lived a man named John Calvin, and he was shown the following verse: Matthew 13:55 “Is he not the carpenter's son? Is not his mother named Mary and his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Jude?” And he was told that this means that Mary did not remain a virgin because it says here that she had other children. And what did he say to that? He said that this verse does not decide yet whether she had other children because it writes here that Mary is the mother of Jesus and that the Jesus has brothers, but it does not write here that Mary is the mother of these brothers. He said that to determine this, we need to examine the entire New Testament, and he did, and this is what he discovered: He did not find a single verse that wrote that Mary is the mother of anyone other than the Jesus. Which still doesn't settle the matter, because on the other hand, the bible doesn't say that she didn't give birth to any other children. During his research, he discovered something else, that the Apostle Paul called the Apostle James the brother of the Lord Jesus: Galatians 1: 19 “But I did not see any other of the apostles, only James the brother of the Lord.” This clearly indicates that the brother mentioned in /Matthew 13:55/ named James was one of the twelve Apostles. And here we have the result of all this exegesis, because in the Gospel of Matthew, in the place where all the apostles are mentioned, it is given the names of the fathers of the Apostles named James, because there were two Apostles with this name: Matthew 10: 2-3 “The names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon called Peter, and his brother Andrew; *James, the son of Zebedee,* and his brother John, Philip and Bartholomew, Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; *James, the son of Alphaeus…”* Here we clearly see that the two Apostles named James are not the sons of Joseph, the husband of Mary. On this biblical basis, John Calvin stated that this means that Christ's brothers mentioned in /Matthew 13:55/ and /Mark 6:3/ are not his natural brothers, but at most cousins or distant relatives. In addition, another of these brothers is named Judah, and he may be the same one who wrote the letter of Judah. And this letter starts like this: Jude 1: 1 “Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ and brother of James” So Jude clearly states here that only James is his natural brother, but he does not call the Lord Jesus his brother. Then we have this verse: Gospel of John 19:27 “Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home.” If Lord Jesus had any siblings, he would not have had to give his mother to his disciple because the responsibility of caring would have fallen to the eldest son. This was the custom back then. It never happened that a widow went into the care of strangers when she had adult children, because it would be a great insult to these children and it would be a scandal that the mother went into the care of strangers. However, there was still the matter of the verse: Gospel of Matthew 1: 25 “He had no relations with her until she bore a son, and he named him Jesus” Based on this verse, all those who do not believe in the virginity of Mary make sure that they teach well, but John Calvin, examining ancient Greek, found that they understood it wrong. He discovered that word “until” has other meanings in ancient Greek. Here Matthew only states that Joseph is not the biological father of the Lord Jesus, this verse does not specify what happened after the birth of the Lord Jesus... It's like this verse: Gospel of Matthew 28: 20 “And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.” Does this verse say that Christ is with us only until the end of the world and then He will no longer be with us??? No! 2000 years ago, the content of such sentences only meant what happened before a specific event, but did not specify what would happen after that event. So finally John Calvin gave his verdict: He admitted that the brothers of the Lord Jesus mentioned in /Matthew 13:55/ and /Mark 6:3/ are not his natural brothers. So they may be his cousins or other relatives and that Lord Jesus is Mary’s only child, and Mary remained a virgin. So same conclusion did early church in second century, same conclusion did Catholics and Orthodox Christians, and even Protestant reformers. That’s how conclusion looks when we study whole bible! Let the truth shine again. Amen!
@catholictruth102 your first premise is flawed. It has nothing to do with Mary and just because Jesus will reign forever, doesn't mean you can ignore the context of the scriptur. The only thing you have to even remotely suggest that Mary was a birgon until death is rcc teaching. There isn't one scriptural reference that even comes close. So it means nothing. The catechism is no better, or different than the book of Mormon. Your second premise is even worse. The scripture when Jesus is told His mother and brothers are outside ends with Jesus pointing out the difference between His brothers in the flesh and His spiritual brothers.
@catholictruth102 all you have is catholic doctrine from the catechism. There is nothing scriptural about it. I have the scriptures saying that Jesus' mother and brothers are outside wanting to speak with Him. Then Jesus draws a distinction between His physical family and His spiritual family. Since YHWH is spirit, that makes perfect sense. So I have scripture read straight forward. You have the catechism that doesn't reference scripture accurately at all. Which should I believe? I will choose to believe YHWH'S word over the catechism that was written by fallible man. The catechism is no different and no better than the book of mormon.
@@fdavidharrisson5023 That is just proof Catholics actually hate the Word of God, they need to twist it to fit their pagan practices, satan also twisted the Word of God in the Garden with Adam and Eve
The only reason that Mary needed to be a virgin was so that she could fulfill the prophecy in Isaiah 7:14 and also so that Jesus was coming from the Holy Spirit not from the seed of her husband Joseph. After Jesus was born it says they consummated the marriage (Mat 1:25) and also it was not necessary for Mary to be a virgin any longer. The prophecy was fulfilled the messiah was born. So Joseph could have a normal marital relationship with his wife and vice versa
To investigate,if you haven't heard of it, is the curse of jeconiah. Because this was the kingly lineage from David, Jesus through Mary would have been cursed. So it has to be a miracle to avoid the curse ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wrR20AI-Pek.htmlsi=S21DM7to4gN7B58g
NOT ONLY ANTICHRIST BUT ALSO LACK OF STUDING THE SCRIPTURES. THIS IS TRUE ALL HERETICS,PROTESTANTS, JW AND SO ON TRYING TO PROVE THAT VIRGIN MARY THE "THEOTOKOS" WAS NOT A VIRGIN. FIND ME A VERSE INTO THE BIBLE WHICH SAYS THAT MARY AND JOSEPH WERE MARRIED...
@@horridhenry9920 Yes the Hebrew word could mean that but logically if a prophecy said "a yound woman would conceive and have a child" there would be 100 million candidates and it would be a meaningless prophecy, but "a virgin would conceive and have a child", there is only one candidate for the Messiah, Jesus.
It’s SOO CRAZY that the “Catholic church” teaches this, when The Bible clearly says that The Lord had siblings. Also, the scripture “Joseph did not know her UNTIL she gave birth to her first born Son” also shows that she and Joseph did eventually have marital relations.
It is funny how people think that two people who were betrothed to each other had no desire to have relations with each other. Did Joseph all of a sudden not want to have relations with her anymore?
@@bibleman8010Thank you for this nugget in the NT.” No scripture does not contradict the teaching of the C.C. About the “Brothers “ of Jesus “when”, SCRIPTURE IS PROPERLY INTERPRETED in CONTEXT ( you are correct), Accurately is a figure of speech that literally means something like “cutting a straight road”, in regard to the message of truth it means “correctly handling “ or imparting it without deviation “(Net note). 2 Samuel 6:23 Michal’s childlessness is especially mentioned as a punishment of her pride. This was the deepest humiliation for oriental woman.( for vivid description of the scenes of this chapter see Stanley Jewish Church, second Series p89-98 Lect.23. Ezekiel 44:1-3 “Prince and the east gate”, none of your OT passages have anything to do with the womb of Mary “shut “.
Uh your using a convention that is used in the English language and applying that into the Greek. Until merely is emphasizing what came before and doesn't mean it cease to be after that point. Technically this holds true in English, but in English it is implied it ceases to be after that point. This isn't true in the Greek and Hebrew
@@mikem3789 Those who know their bible would know entire households were baptized under the profession of faith of the head. Those who know their bible know that babies were circumcised after 8 days with zero consent from the child. Those who know their bible know that Acts and the letters were basically year zero of the Church, so of course believer/credo baptism would be a pretty standard norm as many adults were entering the Church, but in what world would the children be withheld from God and not be baptized and consecrated to the lord, free to profess the faith after they reach the age of reason? This is a nonsensical debate, especially when you're wont to argue that baptism isn't even necessary and plays no role in salvation: If that's your understanding, why on earth would you have anything to say about when someone is baptized?
@@eddardgreybeard One Baptism says St.Paul. Read also the Symbol of Faith of the 1st Ecumenical Session which says to the end "I confess ONE baptism for forgiveness of sins" but everyone has to keep this One baptism in water and spirit simultaneously being humble and confess sins to a priest that he trusts and receive the forgiveness of his sins and on and on...
If God can show the people in heaven what is occuring on earth, and He receives their prayers (revelation 5:8 and 8:1-3), it should be safe to assume that the saints in heaven can hear our prayers especially in revelation 5 and 8. Rejoice over her, you heavens! Rejoice, you people of God! Rejoice, apostles and prophets! For God has judged her with the judgment she imposed on you. God showed the people of heaven judgement of mystery Babylon, why won't be enable them to hear prayers from earth. It seems pointless to show saints in heaven receive prayers to God if they can't hear our prayers.
@@iThinkBiblicallyYour pleasure to blaspheme the mother of the Man you claim to be your God? I pray God brings misfortune upon you for your blasphemy.
I just found your channel. As I was listening, I was thinking, "I'm going to leave a comment that the prophecy in Psalm 69:8 is clear, that Mary did have other sons." and just then, that was the very next thing you shared. Well done!
The Roman Catholic Church always argues that sola scriptura was fabricated way later. Insisting that the author of scripture alone is not a traditional/historical Christian teaching. But for one it was recorded , in scripture, that the apostles used scripture to make the case that Jesus is the Christ to the unbelievers of their day. Jesus himself used scripture to argue with the Pharisees and show them their errors. A true sign of a cult is that they claim authority and that their extra biblical writings are as important as God’s word. If you read the Bible , the gospel is extremely clear. Don’t be deceived by cults who claim they are the only way. There is only one way to heaven and that’s repentant faith in Christ Jesus. The Roman Catholic Church will have their day in God’s court and it wont go well.
You're arguing against your own views without even knowing it. There was no new testament writings at the time. So by arguing for scripture alone and one can't add to it, you are arguing against the new testament as it was added after Jesus. Third by limiting the voice of God to the bible you are setting up a false idol like when the Israelites decided to worship God through a golden bull. They are limiting God and imposing restrictions and rules that did not exist. God can and does exist outside of the bible. The bible is the complete scriptures, but it isn't to be used to limit God either.
This was even argued at the time between the Pharisees and the Sadducees. The Pharisees included the prophets in Scripture and in liturgy. The Sadducees wanted the liturgy and teachings to be based solely on the Torah. But they still valued the rest of the tanakh but didn't believe it to be God breathed so to speak.
@@KillerofGods are you claiming that the Catholic Church’s writing are part of scripture? I am most definitely not arguing against my views. I’m saying that certain books are inspired and certain ones aren’t. The ones that have contradictions are not inspired and should not have authority. Jesus always used the revelation of God that they had at that time to prove His point. Are you suggesting that the Catholic Churches texts are a revelation from God that needs to be taken as serious as the Bible? Because that is exactly how cults form. The true view is that the canon is closed now and we know which books are in and which are out. But scripture was still being constructed during Jesus and the apostle’s ministries. And as the gospel accounts and letters were being written they were being accepted as authoritative inspired texts, unlike what the Catholic Church and other cults have developed over time. I am by no means limiting God when I say the canon is closed. God definitely does exist outside of the Bible but His word, His revelation is complete. God works still today! I fully believe that! The Holy Spirit is still saving souls. But in order to keep from deceiving people, He has completed His revelation so that all know exactly what the authentic Gospel is now. I have no problem with saying the “Catholic” or “universal” church is the first, one and only church of God. It’s just a name. As long as the true church resembles what is in scripture it can be called whatever. But if the early church was to have the name Catholic Church, then the name has been hijacked by heretical paganism and in no way does the 1st century church resemble what resides in Rome or Eastern Orthodoxy today. I’m sorry, but it’s because of the idea of continued revelation that we have false prophets like Muhammad, Joseph Smith, and frauds like Charles Taze Russell. Along with that, we have heretical teachings that draw people away from the true gift of saving faith in Christ by the grace of God. So many folks are on their way to hell because they have been led to believe heretical teachings because of this idea of continued revelation.
@@christclinger6540 I am claiming we have the writings from the people who were literally taught by the disciples. Using those alongside the bible we can know who follows the teachings of the original church and how to interpret Scripture. Cults form around one man, Orthodoxy has thousands of years of teachings and writings.
@@christclinger6540 Using the teachings from the disciples we can tell who is a false prophet. I'm protestant, in the process of converting into Orthodoxy. However the Catholics are more right than protestantism.
Psalm 69 happens to be a messianic passage. Here is what it says about the Messiah Ps.69.8 I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children. Ps.69.9 For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. We all know the Messiah was truly an alien to his mother's children!✝️❤️
Why is it that protestants can't quote scripture in context?? Funny how you skipped v.5. Was christ a sinner?? Looks like it according to you protestants!@😅
Here is another site that I find almost constant harmony with, Got Questions Dot Org. The difference I have with only two of their positions probably lies with me and my understanding of Scripture and may have nothing to do with their theology. I know for certain that I'm not infallible as I apply 2 Timothy 2:15 in my life. "Study to show yourself approved unto God ....."
Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty Fellowship is one source you can definitely trust listening to for getting all necessary truth when it involves non-compromised Biblical doctrines.
@catholictruth102 Even using your reasoning you couldn’t say if Mary didn’t have anymore children, you’d just be assuming Mary was a virgin all her life which the Catholic Church does; all mental gymnastics guess work. Matthew 13:55 clearly spells out Jesus has brothers and sisters as a stranger points out. The Catholic Church is flawed in many ways
Great Job as always Caleb. Having been a Roman Catholic until I was 40, I know just how that justify there false doctrine. As a Catholic, I was informed by a priest teaching in a class, not to read the Bible for it would only confuse you. We are the only ones who can interpret it. Yes, sure, just like the other false teachers present their out of context use of God's Word, and unfortunately, many believers fail to study the Word of God themselves as it says in 2 Timothy 2:15 - "e diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, handling accurately the word of truth. I have been a teaching for over 40 years, and have many times encountered those who do not even know the basics of God's precious Word.
@@bibleman8010 No. The King of heaven has a bride, and it not His mother, but the church. In scripture, the "Queen of heaven" is an abomination to our God; a detestable thing.
@@mattmurdock2868 In Revelation 12, we see a tableaux with a female figure bearing a child. We know the child is the Messiah by the reference, "destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod" -- which recalls the Messianic prophecy in Psalm 2:7 - "The Lord said to me, 'You are my son; this day I have begotten you. Ask of me and I will give you the nations for an inheritance and the ends of the earth for your possession. You shall rule them with an iron rod; you shall shatter them like an earthen dish.'" Now, if the child in Revelation 12 is Jesus, the woman from whom he issues can only be Mary. Here's why: We see a vision of her in the heavens, clothed in the sun, wearing a crown, a symbol of royalty: "A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems. Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne. The woman herself fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by God, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days... "When the dragon saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year. The serpent, however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth. Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commands and bear witness to Jesus." Queen of Heaven Much is made of the title Queen of Heaven by those who attack Catholicism and Marian devotion. The allusion is always to the pagan pantheons and to the mother of the gods, often mother in a very carnal sense of other pagan deities. The Canaanite worship of the "Queen of Heaven" condemned by the prophets is mentioned, as is the worship of Diana of the Ephesians, devotion to whom was exceeding popular before the Gospel arrived among the pagans. It is said that Catholicism at the Council of Ephesus restored this pagan devotion under the cover of devotion to Mary. The history of that Council given above shows the absurdity, and the intellectual dishonesty, of that claim! One might as well claim with respect to Jesus that Christians worship a mere man, since to arrive at this conclusion the Church's teaching must be ripped from its context and distorted to fit a preconceived judgement. What then does it mean for Mary to be the Queen of Heaven? In the Old Testament monarchy the Queen of the Davidic Kingdom was the Queen Mother. The Kings, for reasons of state and human weakness, had many wives, none of whom fittingly could be called Queen. That honor was reserved for the mother of the King, whose authority far surpassed the many "queens" married to the king. We see this is the role Bathsheba played with respect to King Solomon and the occasions when the Queen Mother acted as regent on behalf of juvenile successors to the throne. The role of the Queen Mother, therefore, is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Mary, just as the role of the Davidic King is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Jesus. Jesus inherited the Kingdom promised to David, who was told that one of his descendants would rule forever. The angel Gabriel revealed this fact to Mary at her Annunciation, Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end." (Luke 1:31-33) Aside from the prophetic types present in the Kingdom of Judah, there is also the text of Psalm 45, which when speaking of the Kingdom of God also speaks of its Queen. [6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. [7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. [9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. [10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; [11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. (Psalm 45:6-11, KJV) That Kingdom ruled by God is the same as the Kingdom ruled eternally by the Son of David. It is not an earthly kingdom, though it is present on earth in the Church, but a heavenly kingdom, the Kingdom of God. The Queen of that Kingdom is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of the Lord God Jesus Christ The woman spoken of in Revelation 12 is Mary. A few observations: • The woman is a great sign and appears in heaven. This is the Catholic view of Mary--that she has an important role in heaven and in the plan of redemption. • She is clothed with the sun, has the moon under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars. In the passage in Gen 37:9-10 the sun, moon and stars bow down to Joseph. This point is often missed by commentators. Therefore, Mary has a role similar to Joseph's in providing redemption to God's people. Joseph "saved" the Israelites and ruled over them just as Mary "saves" the church and rules over it. • Mary gives birth to the Messiah. This is the only literal meaning of the text. • Satan was cast down to earth as a result of events surrounding Christ's birth. Satan went after the child Jesus with a vengeance as we see in Herod's decree to kill the children. • Mary escapes to the desert--to Egypt, for safety and to protect Jesus. She was there for three and a half years. • Jesus was snatched up to God and His throne at His ascension. • Satan was unable to harm the child Jesus so he went off to destroy the rest of Mary's offspring. Notice who these are--those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus. Mary's other offspring are the church. She had no other children other than Jesus. She is the spiritual mother of the church.🌹🌹
In Revelation 12, we see a tableaux with a female figure bearing a child. We know the child is the Messiah by the reference, "destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod" -- which recalls the Messianic prophecy in Psalm 2:7 - "The Lord said to me, 'You are my son; this day I have begotten you. Ask of me and I will give you the nations for an inheritance and the ends of the earth for your possession. You shall rule them with an iron rod; you shall shatter them like an earthen dish.'" Now, if the child in Revelation 12 is Jesus, the woman from whom he issues can only be Mary. Here's why: We see a vision of her in the heavens, clothed in the sun, wearing a crown, a symbol of royalty: "A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems. Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne. The woman herself fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by God, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days... "When the dragon saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year. The serpent, however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth. Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commands and bear witness to Jesus." Queen of Heaven Much is made of the title Queen of Heaven by those who attack Catholicism and Marian devotion. The allusion is always to the pagan pantheons and to the mother of the gods, often mother in a very carnal sense of other pagan deities. The Canaanite worship of the "Queen of Heaven" condemned by the prophets is mentioned, as is the worship of Diana of the Ephesians, devotion to whom was exceeding popular before the Gospel arrived among the pagans. It is said that Catholicism at the Council of Ephesus restored this pagan devotion under the cover of devotion to Mary. The history of that Council given above shows the absurdity, and the intellectual dishonesty, of that claim! One might as well claim with respect to Jesus that Christians worship a mere man, since to arrive at this conclusion the Church's teaching must be ripped from its context and distorted to fit a preconceived judgement. What then does it mean for Mary to be the Queen of Heaven? In the Old Testament monarchy the Queen of the Davidic Kingdom was the Queen Mother. The Kings, for reasons of state and human weakness, had many wives, none of whom fittingly could be called Queen. That honor was reserved for the mother of the King, whose authority far surpassed the many "queens" married to the king. We see this is the role Bathsheba played with respect to King Solomon and the occasions when the Queen Mother acted as regent on behalf of juvenile successors to the throne. The role of the Queen Mother, therefore, is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Mary, just as the role of the Davidic King is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Jesus. Jesus inherited the Kingdom promised to David, who was told that one of his descendants would rule forever. The angel Gabriel revealed this fact to Mary at her Annunciation, Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end." (Luke 1:31-33) Aside from the prophetic types present in the Kingdom of Judah, there is also the text of Psalm 45, which when speaking of the Kingdom of God also speaks of its Queen. [6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. [7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. [9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. [10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; [11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. (Psalm 45:6-11, KJV) That Kingdom ruled by God is the same as the Kingdom ruled eternally by the Son of David. It is not an earthly kingdom, though it is present on earth in the Church, but a heavenly kingdom, the Kingdom of God. The Queen of that Kingdom is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of the Lord God Jesus Christ The woman spoken of in Revelation 12 is Mary. A few observations: • The woman is a great sign and appears in heaven. This is the Catholic view of Mary--that she has an important role in heaven and in the plan of redemption. • She is clothed with the sun, has the moon under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars. In the passage in Gen 37:9-10 the sun, moon and stars bow down to Joseph. This point is often missed by commentators. Therefore, Mary has a role similar to Joseph's in providing redemption to God's people. Joseph "saved" the Israelites and ruled over them just as Mary "saves" the church and rules over it. • Mary gives birth to the Messiah. This is the only literal meaning of the text. • Satan was cast down to earth as a result of events surrounding Christ's birth. Satan went after the child Jesus with a vengeance as we see in Herod's decree to kill the children. • Mary escapes to the desert--to Egypt, for safety and to protect Jesus. She was there for three and a half years. • Jesus was snatched up to God and His throne at His ascension. • Satan was unable to harm the child Jesus so he went off to destroy the rest of Mary's offspring. Notice who these are--those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus. Mary's other offspring are the church. She had no other children other than Jesus. She is the spiritual mother of the church.🌹🌹
The whole point of the virgin birth of Jesus is that his soul came from God the Father so that he didn't have a sin nature. If Mary was born without sin then she should have also been born from God without a physical father. Yet we are told she had an earthly father. She also stated God was her saviour. The Roman Catholic church did not even come out with Mary being sinless and a perpetual virgin until the 12th century, which is around 800 years after the council of Nicaea when the canon of the Bible was finally established in 325 AD. In other words, even the apostles of the 12 apostles and their apostles the Church Fathers knew nothing of this perpetual virginity of Mary. Why do you think all the so called verified apparitions of Mary that have occurred around the world has her saying Non-Biblical rubbish which can easily be established to be demonic phenomena?
Whoever came up with the idea that Mary isn't a sinner really doesn't believe the Bible. Not only does it contradict Romans 3:23, but also if Mary were not a sinner, then why did she and Joseph offer up a burnt and sin offering in Luke 2:23-24, which was required for the woman who gave birth in Leviticus 12:6-8? Why would she offer a sin offering, if she weren't a sinner? I agree with you. It is interesting how almost all of the apparitions came after the Reformation, nor was she sinless until after the Reformation as well. That is not suspicious!
@@mattmoeller1105 Why was Jesus baptized by John, even though John said he needed to be baptized by Jesus? They acted out of obedience, even though they had no strict need for these works.
Even the Orthodox believe she was sinless. They/we just don't believe in the immaculate conception. She was cleansed of the taint of original sin when she accepted her role as theotokos.
@@KillerofGods So Mary's inherited sinful nature was cleansed when she accepted her role of theotokos, but her bleeding from giving birth made her impure, and for that God required a sin offering as mentioned in Leviticus 12:8; which they offered in Luke 2:23-24. So, if they had to offer a sin offering for her impurity which lasted seven days (Leviticus 12:2), then it doesn't sound like her sin left her during the conception, nor when she accepted the role of theotokos, since her sin lasted a whole week after giving birth. It wasn't an intentional sin, but nonetheless it was still a sin that required a sin offering. Interestingly, if Mary does offer an offering for sin, then she is showing she is a sinner, but if she doesn't offer an offering according to God's law, then she is showing she is sinning willfully. Either way she is showing she is a sinner.
Hi, Catholic Here, May God bless you☺️ and this is “my” response :D 1. Answer to Matthew 1:24-25: Matthew and the Claim Jesus was Mary’s “firstborn son” and that Joseph “knew her not until” Christ was born? Does Matthew here teach that Mary have other children? Exodus 13:1-2 Reveals something very important about the first born in Israel: “The Lord said to Moses, ‘Consecrate to me all the firstborn; whatever is the first to open the womb among the people of Israel, both of man and beast, is mine.’” The “firstborn” were not given the title because there was a “second-born.” They were called “firstborn” at birth. Jesus being “firstborn” does not require that more siblings be born after him. 2. Until then: Scripture’s statement that Joseph “knew [Mary] not until she brought forth her firstborn” would not necessarily mean they did “know” each other after she brought forth Jesus. Until is often used in Scripture as part of an idiomatic expression similar to our own usage in English. I may say to you, “Until we meet again, God bless you.” Does that necessarily mean after we meet again, God curse you? By no means. A phrase like this is used to emphasize what is being described before the until is fulfilled. It is not intended to say anything about the future beyond that point. Here are some biblical examples: 2 Samuel 6:23: And Michal the daughter of Saul had no child to (until) the day of her death. (Does this mean she had children after she died?) 1 Timothy 4:13: Until I come, attend to the public reading of scripture, to preaching, to teaching. (Does this mean Timothy should stop teaching after Paul comes?) 1 Corinthians 15:25: For he (Christ) must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. (Does this mean Christ’s reign will end? By no means! Luke 1:33 says, “he will reign over the house of Jacob forever and of his kingdom there shall be no end.”) In recent years, some have argued that because Matthew 1:25 uses the Greek words heos hou for “until” whereas the texts I mentioned above from the New Testament use heos alone, there is a difference in meaning. The argument goes that Heos hou indicates the action of the first clause does not continue. Thus, Mary and Joseph “not having come together” would have ended after Jesus was born. The problems with this theory begin with the fact that no available scholarship concurs with it. In fact, the evidence proves the contrary. Heos hou and heos are used interchangeably and have the same meaning. Acts 25:21 should suffice to clear up the matter: “But when Paul had appealed to be kept in custody for the decision of the emperor, I commanded him to be held until (Gk. heos hou) I could send him to Caesar.” Does this text mean that Paul would not be held in custody after he was “sent” to Caesar? Not according to the biblical record. He would be held in custody while in transit (see Acts 27:1) and after he arrived in Rome for a time (see Acts 29:16). The action of the main clause did not cease with heos hou. Now one last thing you miss, this passage Matthew 1:18-19: "This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet did not want to expose her to public disgrace, *he had in mind to divorce her quietly."* Now Before you say I take this verse out of context, let read the context :D In the passage from Matthew 1:18-19, Joseph had planned to divorce Mary quietly after discovering her pregnancy, but he had not actually divorced her yet when the angel intervened. The angel appeared to Joseph in a dream and reassured him of the miraculous nature of Mary's pregnancy, instructing him to take Mary as his wife, which he did. So, while Joseph had intended to divorce Mary, he ultimately did not go through with it.(Matthew 1:20-21) Now after this Joseph took Mary as his wife(Matthew 1:24) but for two reasons: Joseph was her spouse and protector on this earth for at least two obvious reasons. First, as Matthew points out in his genealogy in chapter 1, Joseph was in line to be a successor of David as King of Israel. Thus, if Jesus was to be the true “son of David” and king of Israel (see 2 Sm 7:14, Heb 1:5, Rv 19:16, 22:16), he needed to be the son of Joseph. As the only son of Joseph, even though adopted, he would have been in line for the throne. Also, in a culture that did not take too kindly to espoused women getting pregnant by someone other than their spouse, Mary would have been in mortal danger. So Joseph became Mary’s earthly spouse and protector as well as the protector of the child Jesus. Now about Matthew 12:46-50 You take way out of context that verse(no offense) the verse indeed says “Here are My Mother and Brothers!” But it Laters says “For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother” indicating very directly that they are *spiritually* there brothers and sisters and mother, Just like you am I if we follow Jesus commands we are his brothers, remember the phrase “We are Brothers in Christ” am I’m going to speak more about this. 3. Let speak about the “brothers and sisters” stuff: You say that the examples of the world “brother” come just from the Old Testament, but that is a lie, the don’t come just from the old testament but also the new testament, I remind you of the phrase “We all are brothers in Christ” obviously not biologically but Spiritually; Matthew 23:8, Romans 8:29, Hebrew 2:11, Now about the Matthew 13:54-57 lets speak about it, you seen to take out of context that verse way too much(no offense) because I don’t think you are aware but all those “Brothers” you say have there own mother you realize that? James and Joses, read Matthew 27:56, this is obviously referring to Mary Magdalene not The Mary of Christ, and before you say they are the same I suggest you to read Matthew 28:1-10, also they are known to be the sons of Zebedee’s u can read it in that same passage(27:56)Now what about Simon?Even though as far as I know the bible doesn’t state the name of Simon father or Mother, it says something more interesting, if you read Mark 3:18 it describe Simon as Simon the Canaanite, and this is a problem for you because Jesus Christ while Jesus Is know as Jesus of Nazareth, and that makes it impossible to say that Simon is brother of Jesus, because is Known as Simon the Canaanite not Simon the Nazareth or Simon the Galilean. Now the last one Judas, let read Jude 1:1: "Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ:" literally brother of James, and James is son of Mary Magdalena and Zebedee’s. With all this says, I just prove you that in the new testament the word “brother” is also use to refer as spiritual brother or other context that ls not just biological brothers 4. Now about the Sisters To be clear, this was not an issue at the time of the Protestant Reformation, as John Calvin, Martin Luther and others defended Church teaching in this regard. Which ironically means that modern Protestants have developed a doctrinal tradition that departs from what their religious forebears held. Leaving that aside, in the bible you came also find how the world sister is also use as spiritual sisters examples of this are: 1 Timothy 5:2 “Older women as mothers, younger women as sisters, in all purity”(the context of this verse is that Paul instructs Timothy on how to treat different groups within the church, including older women, whom he refers to as "mothers" and "sisters," implying a spiritual relationship : "Treat older women as mothers, younger women as sisters, with all purity.) other one is Romans 16:1-2 Paul refers to Phoebe as "our sister," highlighting her position within the Christian community: "I recommend to you our sister Phoebe, deaconess of the church at Cenchrea. Receive her into the Lord, in a manner worthy of the saints, and help her in whatever she needs from you; because she has helped many and myself." The world sister, also if Jesus had sisters why are they not mentioned later in the bible? Once again “For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.” 5.Now it is quite ironic and contradictory to me that you take out The Psalms (69:8-10) because you had mentioned that all the examples of the word "brother" (in the spiritual context) are all from the Old Testament, but then you take out a verse from the Old Testament testament (Psalms 69:8-10) to justify that Jesus was going to have brothers (even though I previously specified that it was spiritual and I verified it with the Bible itself and also did my research) it is as if you were using that verse at your convenience (no offense) To clarify one thing, the Bible uses metaphors and symbolism a lot and if we add to that the different meaning in words, this proves even more that Jesus did not have biological brothers, the prophecy of the Psalms was fulfilled because Jesus did have brothers, but not biologically but spiritually you can read the explanation again. I don’t mean to offend anyone by this, I just like to show the truth :D May God bless you all☺️
Nah sorry. That's Catholic bias all over. Too many fall for Roman Catholic propaganda; but the RCC we know bears no relation or resemblance to the churches of the 1st-2nd centuries. Roman Cathilicism ain't true christianity, it's a syncretic PAGAN religion garishly disguised as christian. The fact that they worship before GRAVEN IMAGES depicting a *female deity* CLEARLY marks it PAGAN. The "Queen of Heaven" is the "goddess" mentioned in Jeremiah 44. Scripture CLEARLY tells us Jesus had half brothers and sisters. After Jesus, Mary had sexual relations with Joseph, siring more children the natural way - and there's NOTHING wrong with that.
@SpiritLevel888 Disagree. Jesus who is alive spiritualally in the Catholic Church, told us specifically of the offensive that his heart weeps. In the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the belief that Mary was not a Virgin is one of the 7 offenses. The Catholic Church is Sacred Scripture and includes Sacred Tradtion.
There was this Priest that said something along the lines of if you read the bible on your own (referring to independent bible studies outside the guise of the Catholic church) you will start your own religion. If you don't believe him, ask all the other 40,000 denominations of Protestant Christians.
@@rayeemon The RCC is not even a denomination, it is an apostate offshoot of paganism and Christianity, those of us who are born again do not recognize the pagan RCC
I didn't realize that they taught that. I guess they missed the verse when Jesus was told his mother and brothers and sisters were outside. Not to mention one of his brothers wrote one of the books
Dear Christians, Anyone who has devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary will received many blessings from God; graces from the Holy Spirit. Especially pray the rosary for many blessings and God's special protection. Exorcisms have happened through the prayer of the holy rosary, and you receive peace in your soul. The prayer of the rosary is the prayer of the life of Jesus, and it is Bibically based on the Gospel and the 150 Psalms. If you want to get closer to the Lord Jesus, honor His holy Mother; she magnifies the Lord!!! Rosary with words: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3DtN8txVkBs.htmlsi=oNy60-5dhjfeHOn2
Nicely done. I would also add that the consummation for marriage is the joining of two to become one - without sex, then they were not properly married. And as a practical consideration, it would be weird for two that love each other and marry not to have sex.
And yet, that was a common practice in the early church. Many bishops, presbyters, and deacons were married, but once they were ordained, they no longer had relations with their wives. Likewise, Moses had no relations with his wife after God called him as a prophet. Under the Old Covenant, the priests and Levites had to separate from their wives for the duration of their service, lest they desecrate the Temple, for marital relations made a man ritually unclean for a day, and anyone who entered the Temple in a state of ritual uncleanness was guilty of sacrilege.
And yet, the bible says in 1 Corinthians 7:5 "Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." this would agree with your reference to the Levites that did not have relations with their wife's during their temple service - but after this it would be normal wife/husband relations.
I Cor 7:3-4 "The husband SHOULD fulfill his martial duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife" - this would apply to the ministers of the early church that you say denied their wife's in marriage - along with Joseph and Mary who would have honored their marriage bonds to each other and God by not only consummating their marriage, but by also not denying each other their God given marital rights - cheers.
And the very next verse, Paul clarifies this by saying1 Cor 7:7 "I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that" - in other words Paul is simply saying that marriage is a concession, one that he has chosen to deny himself - but he is not saying that married people should deny themselves normal sexual relations for extended times, as he makes very clear.
There's actually a way they worm around the Mt 1.25 issue. And believe it or not the Tomson version of 1576 (using a 1587 Geneva as reference) does this: "The little word 'till', in the Hebrew tongue, giveth us to understand also that a thing shall not come to pass in time to come; as Michal _had no children till her death's day,_ 2 Samuel 6.23, and in the last chapter of this Evangelist, 'Behold, I am with you till the end of the world.'" John Wesley appears to have made a similar statement. But I think the open naming of four brothers makes it clear that they are referring to actual blood siblings.
Orthodox believe it was a second marriage and Joseph had kids in the first marriage. Also the word brethren in Hebrew just means male relative. Like it is used for Lot and Abraham.
@@fnjesusfreak It absolutely does, because of how many were identified as sons of Mary of Cleopas, and "James, brother of the Lord" is identified in the gospels as James son of Alpheus.
I disagree. The Catholic faith doesn't stop at the Bible. The Church is spiritualally alive with the Pope as the head. The Catholic devotion of The Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary tells the many offenses they receive. And the attack of the Virgin Mary is one of them. Our faith goes beyond just Sacred Scripture. It includes Sacred Tradtion. The most notable proof of this Tradition can be found in the Miracles in Lourdes France and the Miracle of Divine Mercy in the Philippines. The miracles in France shows the healing powers of God, and to this day, scientificaly can not be explained. In the Philippines, thousands of people witness a miracle involving the sun. ** Miracle of Divine Mercy can be found on RU-vid. Jesus and Mary, along with the saints, are alive in the Catholic Church and go beyond just Bible alone.
@@rayeemon Jesus warned of tradition magnifying itself over the Word of God, that is why the RCC is a pagan offshoot of Christianity and apostate, when the Lord Jesus returns the pagan RCC will be DESTROYED!
The Apostles would like to speak a word with you If what you are saying was a thing, there would be more sources about it. Yet the Apostolic Tradition says Jesus was Mary's only son since the very beginning
*Did Mary have other children?* There once lived a man named John Calvin, and he was shown the following verse: Matthew 13:55 “Is he not the carpenter's son? Is not his mother named Mary and his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Jude?” And he was told that this means that Mary did not remain a virgin because it says here that she had other children. And what did he say to that? He said that this verse does not decide yet whether she had other children because it writes here that Mary is the mother of Jesus and that the Jesus has brothers, but it does not write here that Mary is the mother of these brothers. He said that to determine this, we need to examine the entire New Testament, and he did, and this is what he discovered: He did not find a single verse that wrote that Mary is the mother of anyone other than the Jesus. Which still doesn't settle the matter, because on the other hand, the bible doesn't say that she didn't give birth to any other children. During his research, he discovered something else, that the Apostle Paul called the Apostle James the brother of the Lord Jesus: Galatians 1: 19 “But I did not see any other of the apostles, only James the brother of the Lord.” This clearly indicates that the brother mentioned in /Matthew 13:55/ named James was one of the twelve Apostles. And here we have the result of all this exegesis, because in the Gospel of Matthew, in the place where all the apostles are mentioned, it is given the names of the fathers of the Apostles named James, because there were two Apostles with this name: Matthew 10: 2-3 “The names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon called Peter, and his brother Andrew; *James, the son of Zebedee,* and his brother John, Philip and Bartholomew, Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; *James, the son of Alphaeus…”* Here we clearly see that the two Apostles named James are not the sons of Joseph, the husband of Mary. On this biblical basis, John Calvin stated that this means that Christ's brothers mentioned in /Matthew 13:55/ and /Mark 6:3/ are not his natural brothers, but at most cousins or distant relatives. In addition, another of these brothers is named Judah, and he may be the same one who wrote the letter of Judah. And this letter starts like this: Jude 1: 1 “Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ and brother of James” So Jude clearly states here that only James is his natural brother, but he does not call the Lord Jesus his brother. Then we have this verse: Gospel of John 19:27 “Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home.” If Lord Jesus had any siblings, he would not have had to give his mother to his disciple because the responsibility of caring would have fallen to the eldest son. This was the custom back then. It never happened that a widow went into the care of strangers when she had adult children, because it would be a great insult to these children and it would be a scandal that the mother went into the care of strangers. However, there was still the matter of the verse: Gospel of Matthew 1: 25 “He had no relations with her until she bore a son, and he named him Jesus” Based on this verse, all those who do not believe in the virginity of Mary make sure that they teach well, but John Calvin, examining ancient Greek, found that they understood it wrong. He discovered that word “until” has other meanings in ancient Greek. Here Matthew only states that Joseph is not the biological father of the Lord Jesus, this verse does not specify what happened after the birth of the Lord Jesus... It's like this verse: Gospel of Matthew 28: 20 “And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.” Does this verse say that Christ is with us only until the end of the world and then He will no longer be with us??? No! 2000 years ago, the content of such sentences only meant what happened before a specific event, but did not specify what would happen after that event. So finally John Calvin gave his verdict: He admitted that the brothers of the Lord Jesus mentioned in /Matthew 13:55/ and /Mark 6:3/ are not his natural brothers. So they may be his cousins or other relatives and that Lord Jesus is Mary’s only child, and Mary remained a virgin. So same conclusion did early church in second century, same conclusion did Catholics and Orthodox Christians, and even Protestant reformers. That’s how conclusion looks when we study whole bible! Let the truth shine again. Amen!
Dear Christians, Anyone who has devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary will received many blessings from God; graces from the Holy Spirit. Especially pray the rosary for many blessings and God's special protection. Exorcisms have happened through the prayer of the holy rosary, and you receive peace in your soul. The prayer of the rosary is the prayer of the life of Jesus, and it is Bibically based on the Gospel and the 150 Psalms. If you want to get closer to the Lord Jesus, honor His holy Mother; she magnifies the Lord!!! Rosary with words: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3DtN8txVkBs.htmlsi=oNy60-5dhjfeHOn2
First of all the word used just means male relative, so they choose to translate it as brothers or brethren. Same word is used to describe Abraham and lot. Secondly those brothers were from Joseph's first marriage according to tradition.
Jesus never had siblings. John 3:16 says God gave us his ONLY SON. There is nowhere in the bible that God told Jesus that he we would have siblings, nowhere in the bible, God Mary, and she would give birth to more children. if mary did have more children, don't you think God would have exposed her? Or if Jesus did have siblings, he would have chosen them to spread the Gospel instead of selecting his disciples.
@@bibleman8010 Respectfully, what you posted is a huge a load of crap! None of it is Biblical. Someone made it up, you believed it, and you repeated it. You need better sources. Try God next time.
@@beerussolos1063Who says? 😂 I can’t believe the stuff you people will make up! Is it that hard to read God’s Word and go by what He plainly states? Yet instead, you make up lies and stories as you go along. You have no proof, no sources, no evidence. When the Bible says the complete opposite, who is correct? Go ahead…think about that…
Im not Roman Catholic and dont support their views and believes, however, there is an Pseudopigrapha book called “ The history of Joseph the carpenter” which possibly explains a lot of whats being questioned here. Use it, dont use it
You are incorrect! The Virgin Mary maintained her perpetual virginity. The Virgin Mary didn't have other children except Our Lord Jesus Christ. This is an apostolic tradition that was handed to the present day. Also, during exorcisms, demons under the authority of the Catholic Church and Christ admitted that the Virgin Mary was without sin and maintained her perpetual virl4gin5ì Yuku
You should follow the Bible rather than what a demon says. If Mary was without sin, then you are going against God Himself in Romans 3:23. Also, if Mary was without sin, then why did she and Joseph offer a sin offering (along with a burnt offering) on behalf of Mary in Luke 2:24, which is required by OT Law in Leviticus 12:8?
@mikem3789 I don't need to be baptized again! I received the sacrament of baptism and confirmation. I am born of water and spirit! Yes, I do need to repent of my sins; however, honoring the Blessed Mary Ever Virgin and believing of her imaculate conception, virgin birth of Jesus, her bodily assumption and cornination as Queen of Heaven, Queen of the Holy Catholic Church, which there is no salvation outside of her, and Mother of God is not a sin or idolatry!
@@mattmoeller1105Mary was full of grace! Which means without sin! Also she claimed all generations will call be blessed! Have you called her that, or do have a protestant hatred for her?
The curse of the internet, anyone with a smart phone can make a video and upload it to RU-vid. So here you are. All it takes is convincing people to believe sola scriptura then you postulate yourself as a "Bible teacher," and you get away with propagating heresy.
It enrages me that these people can blaspheme so proudly and justify themselves under sola scriptura They'll even go as far as say that the Holy Spirit guides them to their misunderstanding It's sickening They need prayers and humility
Honestly, it is absolutely stunning how the Catholic Church does not spread the devotion of Sacred Heart and Immaculate Heart of Mary that well in the United States. These devotions are from Jesus, which shows how much his heart is offended by his attack on the Eucharistic and his mother. I will give credit to Fr. Alar and his RU-vid channel in explaining the faith in which he debuts this heresy.
Agreed! And Mary, our spiritual mother, leads us to Jesus! Sometimes we just need that motherly love that helps us brings us closer to Him. Which she did for me 😀
@@rayeemon Where in the bible is Mary our spiritual mother, where in the bible does it say she brings you closer to Jesus? I do not believe your name is written in the Lambs book of life, I would take your eyes of Mary and put them on Jesus before it is too late
@johngraves9237 Jesus gave us his mother during crucifixion. If you recalled he said something along the lines of. Woman behold your son. Mary plays a role in interceding for us. This can be seen in the wedding of Cana. After pleading with Jesus and knowing his time was not to be revealed, Mary convinced Jesus to turn water to wine. In regards to getting your name written in the Heart of Jesus. Jesus appeared to a Catholic saint and requested a devotion called the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Who ever does this alleviates the ingratidudes of men and will have thier name written in his Heart. That's what Jesus promised Jesus can do all things and allowed his mother Mary to appeared to me personally. She continues to pray for each one of us. Stressing the importance to believe and trust in his son.
You should really learn the Bible and the typology between the Old and the New. Every Church Father who knew Mary was sinless, ever Virgin and assumed into Heaven, got it from the Old Testament in light of the New. -- The glory of the Lord and the cloud cover the Tabernacle (containing the Ark) and "overshadow" (episkiazo) them. (Exodus 40:34-35, cf. v. 3) The Holy Spirit comes upon Mary and the power of the Most High "over-shadows" (episkiazo) her. (Luke 1:35) -- David "arose and went" to the hill country of Judah to bring up "the ark of God." (2 Samuel 6:2) Mary "arose and went" into the hill country of Judah to visit Elizabeth. (Luke 1:39) -- David admits his unworthiness to receive the Ark by exclaiming: "How can the ark of the LORD come to me?" (2 Samuel 6:9) Elizabeth admits her unworthiness to receive Mary by exclaiming: "And why is this granted to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" (Luke 1:43) -- David "leaped" before the Ark as it was brought in "with shouting." 2 Samuel 6:15-16) John "leaped" in Elizabeth's womb at the sound of Mary's voice and Elizabeth cried "with a loud shout." (Luke 1:41-42) -- The Ark remained in the hill country, in the house of Obed-Edom, "three months." (2 Samuel 6:11) Mary remained in the hill country, in Elizabeth's house, "three months." (Luke 1:56) -- Then God's temple in heaven was opened, *_and the ark of his covenant appeared within his temple;_* and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. *_And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun,_* with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for deliv-ery. (Revelation 11:19-12:2) Both the Ark and the woman appear to be *_in the heavenly Temple._* Notice the imagery of "noises" or "voices" (Greek phonai) coming from the heavenly "temple" and a woman "in anguish for delivery" (Revelation 11:19, 12:2). These images are taken directly from the book of Isaiah: "A voice from the temple! The voice of the LORD, rendering recompense to his enemies! Before she was in labor she gave birth; before her pain came upon her she was delivered of a son" (Isaiah 66:6-7).
You should learn from the scriptures that the dead are asleep and have not risen. That includes the saints you pray to and Mary mother of Jesus Christ. Ecclesiastes 9:5 ESV For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Daniel 12:2 ESV And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. ... John 11:11 ESV After saying these things, he said to them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I go to awaken him.” Psalm 146:4 ESV When his breath departs, he returns to the earth; on that very day his plans perish. John 5:28-29 ESV Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.
@@johndavid3474 Another product of “sola-scriptura” heresy. Judging from your other comment, you’re a Unitarian..? I pray you’re not. The sleep you quoted in Daniel is phenomenological sleep, not literal sleep. Dead people look like they are sleeping, especially on their deathbeds (and people often _die_ on beds, hence the sleep analogy). The Bible uses “sleep” as a euphemism for “death”, just like we use it today… Revelation 6:9-10 - When he [Christ] opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne; they cried out with a loud voice, ‘O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?'” Unconscious people can’t cry out for vengeance, last I checked. Therefore, conscious, disembodied souls exist. Revelation 20:4 - “Then I saw . . . the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God and who had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” Again, disembodied souls (they’re literally beheaded). John sees them coming to life to reign with Christ; hence pre-resurrection. Alive and conscious in Heaven. Do I need to mention the Transfiguration to rest my case further?
@@johndavid3474 Another product of “sola-scriptura” heresy. Judging from your other comment, you’re a Unitarian..? I pray you’re not. The sleep you quoted in Daniel is phenomenological sleep, not literal sleep. Dead people look like they are sleeping, especially on their deathbeds (and people often _die_ on beds, hence the sleep analogy). The Bible uses “sleep” as a euphemism for “death”, just like we use it today… Revelation 6:9-10 - When he [Christ] opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne; they cried out with a loud voice, ‘O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?'” Unconscious people can’t cry out for vengeance, last I checked. Therefore, conscious, disembodied souls exist. Revelation 20:4 - “Then I saw . . . the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God and who had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” Again, disembodied souls (they’re literally beheaded). John sees them coming to life to reign with Christ; hence pre-resurrection. Alive and conscious in Heaven.
@@johndavid3474 Another product of “sola-scriptura” heresy. Judging from your other comment, you’re a Unitarian..? I pray you’re not. The sleep you quoted in Daniel is phenomenological sleep, not literal sleep. Dead people look like they are sleeping, especially on their deathbeds (and people often _die_ on beds, hence the sleep analogy). The Bible uses “sleep” as a euphemism for “death”, just like we use it today… Revelation 6:9-10 - When he [Christ] opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne; they cried out with a loud voice, ‘O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?'” Unconscious people can’t cry out for vengeance, last I checked. Therefore, conscious, disembodied souls exist. Revelation 20:4 - “Then I saw . . . the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God and who had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.” Again, disembodied souls (they’re literally beheaded). John sees them coming to life to reign with Christ; hence pre-resurrection. Alive and conscious in Heaven.
5 Verses from Matthew chapter 1 that show that Mary was a virgin. Look at verses 16, 18, 20, 22 and 25. In verse 25 it says "but he did not consumate their marriage until she gave birth to her son and he gave him the name Jesus". So after Jesus was born the marriage was consummated meaning that Mary was no longer a virgin. This is highlighted by the fact that she had children. At least four other boys and some daughters too. It would be very unusual if Joseph married a wife and then did not sleep with her. He did not sleep with her until she had given birth to Jesus because what was conceived in her was from the holy spirit and she was pregnant.
What does consummating a marriage mean to you? It actually means having sex. You cannot escape that. It specifically states that Joseph did not have sex with Mary until after she gave birth to Jesus. Otherwise the passage there makes no sense.
Uh, the word until doesn't mean it ceases to be to that point in Greek and Hebrew. I know it is implied so in English, but this connotation doesn't exist in other languages.
Protestants trust Jesus when he said the gates of Hell won’t prevail against the church founded on Peter Challenge: Impossible! Mary was born into sin as she is human in nature, but lived sinlessly in her actions. This is the immaculate conception. Not to be confused with Jesus’ being born without sin and never sinning. They are not the same, but they are both incredibly important in our salvation. Mary also vowed to never have sexual relations so
@shawtyaintshit - Church is not founded on Peter. Church is founded on Jesus Christ being the Son of God. The rock mentioned there is the statement from Jesus Christ that says He is the Son of God.
@@Brrbank Agreed. If anyone tells you that the Catholic Church isn't true. Redirect them to the Miraculous healings attributed to Our Lady of Lourdes Frances. Numerous miraculous healings that are scientificly unexplainable, peer reviewed by hundreds of doctors from diffenet religions. Or your favorite Eucharistic Miracle Either one works
Good to hear you link this back to classical Protestant claims rather than just bashing RC/EO doctrine. Sola scruptura indeed. We should honor the authorities God has placed in our lives - Pastors, Priests, Bishops - but only Scripture is infallible.
@@sillythewanderer4221 as a matter of opinion, anyone is free to come to conclusions about Mary. But we fundamentally believe it is not a matter worth anathematizing
A "good Catholic" would answer as follows: "I know that Mary was perpetually a virgin and that she never sinned because that is what the Catholic church, the only true church, teaches. If you think that the Bible says otherwise, then you are not interpreting the Bible correctly. Only the Catholic Church is able to interpret the Bible correctly."
@@iThinkBiblically Dear Christian, The KJB teaches that "The Church (Catholic Church because it was the only Church existing during Bible times) The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth." 1 Tim 3:15. So what does the Church say? The posts by Tom_extremee_ and tpoy1274, both ahead of this one, presents a comprehensive Scripture based defense of Catholic teaching, and you will also find that two founders of Protestantism, namely Calvin and Luther, both agreed that the Blessed Virgin Mary was perpetually a virgin. The KJB and two major founders of Protestantism cannot simply be dismissed. Another question: I do not understand why Protestants are so obsessed with their age-old attacks on the Blessed Virgin Mary, while most of them are OK with divorce, which Jesus teaches against (Mt 19:3-12), and they are OK with contraception which has many Scriptures against it, find them here: www.catholicnewsagency.com/resource/55270/contraception-the-bible-and-early-fathers Even though this is a Catholic source, the same Scriptures are in the KJB. But the greatest Scripture against contraception is the 5th commandment: "You shall not kill," because most hormonal contraceptive are abortifacients. Soooo, Protestants attack the most holy Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of Jesus, of whom the Bible says she "magnifies the Lord," (Lk 1:46-56), and that all generations will call her blessed (Lk 1:48), while many of them divorce and remarry (adultery) and use contraception, all against what the Bible says. I am not saying you do these things, but that, as a whole, Protestants, including non-denominational folks, seems to have no problem non-Biblical divorce, re-marriage, and contraception, but they reject the Biblically supported rights and privileges of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of Jesus.
With all respect and kindness, I disagree with your statement. Salvation is by the grace of God through the sacrifice of his son Jesus, not through the church. The thief on the cross beside Jesus was saved, yet he never knew a church. Scripture says God's creation bears witness to his greatness. No one has an excuse, because even the stars attest to his presence.
(To Matthew 1:24-25) "Until", both in English and in Greek, can mean up to a certain point, but not after. Until, but not after. Or it can just mean, to this point. In First Corinthians, we’re told that Jesus must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. Does that mean Jesus doesn’t reign after his enemies are put under his feet? No, until doesn’t mean that. So assuming that until always means only until this point and then not after, is applying a connotation of until that it doesn’t necessarily hold here. It can mean that, but contextually it often doesn’t. (4:27 - 5:12) Exactly. You're just coping by saying that somehow cousins aren't as dear as brothers so somehow the point Jesus is making is moot? There are plenty of verses that support the possibility that brother can mean cousin in the context of the ancient Jewish community which Jesus was a part of but because they're "Old Testament" they aren't valid? Well guess what, the entire Bible including the Old Testament was inspired by the Holy Spirit so you can't just dismiss it with a wave of the hand. (To Psalm 69:8-10) You actually buried yourself here because Jesus tells us who his mother and his brothers are in Matthew 1:24-25 which you quoted, that is those who do the will of His Father in Heaven. So his Mother's sons would also be those that do the will of His Father in Heaven. Catholics also understand Mary to be the mother of the Church so all members of the Church would likewise be her children.
As a Catholic when this concept is ever discussed I always think about the movie Dogma and what the Chris Rock character said quote to believe a married couple didn't get down that's just plain gullibility unquote
Come to think of it, of what relevance is it to my salvation if Mary had just Jesus or had more children after Christ? None whatsoever! I see this debate as a complete distraction and waste of time exactly the way i see praying to Mary to pray for us. All i need to know is that Mary is Blessed and would be called Blessed to tilll the day of resurrection because the Bible says so!
The reason why you think this way is because you have no desire to see Catholics get saved. If you did have that desire you would know that if you can undermine the official teachings of the Catholic church then people will be open to questioning the Catholic church further.
@@iThinkBiblically You're incorrect. I have a desire for ALL not just the Catholics to get saved. I just don't believe that Mary having or not having children after Christ has any bearing on one's salvation. I would rather concern myself on salvation threatening doctrines of any group. However, for educational purposes, I listen and enjoy the video. But would not engage a Catholic on this topic in a debate.
Dear Christian, Without the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, there is a question as to whether Jesus is God, the second person of the Holy Trinity. I agree that sexual conduct according to God's law is holy. The Blessed Virgin Mary was destined to the Mother of God; she was the spouse of the Holy Spirit not just spiritually but physically. She was consecrated to the Holy Spirit which would make normal marital conduct with St. Joseph a hypocrisy--she could not have a divided heart. It would also mean that she sinfully broke her vow of virginity of which she spoke to the angel "How can this be for I know not man?" (Lk 1:34). She was already married (betrothed) to St. Joseph and she would have assumed that a pregnancy would be a normal consequence of her marriage, except for her vow of virginity, without which it could be claimed that St. Joseph was Jesus' physical father, not the Holy Spirit. Her marriage to St. Joseph was valid because consummation of a marriage is not required for a marriage covenant to exist. You may be interested to know that DNA from the blood of the Shroud of Turin shows only one set of chromosomes - from the mother only: 22 chromosomes, and only a "Y" from the father. If St. Joseph was Jesus' father, the blood on the Shroud would show 44 chromosomes like the rest of us humans have. Jesus was God and had only 23 chromosomes - no human father. Article on Shroud DNA: www.christianlearning.com/blood-of-jesus/#google_vignette
This is why we have to study to show ourselves approved...and with knowledge gain understanding. I wish we had Bible expository teaching at my church. I've been a member for over 40 years and have NEVER been taught the Bible as you teach it. I didn't even know there are so many scriptures acknowledging Jesus is God until I started following you and a couple other channels. Smh not good!
Matter, Mark, Luke, John, Acts and Roman's. Read these books, and you will quickly understand that none of the teachings from the Catholic church can be found in scripture.
They have RCIA classes you can go to and ask questions. No pressure or obligations. I personally like podcasts but I use more orthodox podcasts than Catholic. Id read on what the first Christians taught, and they clearly taught on the sacraments/Eucharist. So for me that knocked out all the low church protestant stuff I used to be.
Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. Ezekiel 44:2.
@@ByzantiumArchon Knowledge shall increase when we have come to the lord's truth. That is knowledge of the false trinity, saints which have not yet ascended. Jesus mother Mary --- asleep. No flesh nor souls are currently in heaven apart from Jesus Christ.
@@johndavid3474 You’re admitting to me you have no clue what’s in the Bible, without admitting it… Let Christ, Himself, rebuke you: ”And as for the dead being raised, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the passage about the bush, how God said to him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? *He is not God of the dead, **_but of the living;_** you are quite wrong.”* Mark 12:26-27 ”and to the assembly of the first-born who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, *_and to the spirits of just men made perfect,“_* Hebrews 12:23 ”When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne; they cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?” Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.“ Revelation 6:9-11 ”And there appeared to them Elijah with Moses; and they were talking to Jesus.“ Mark 9:4 ”And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;“ Revelation 5:8
@@sillythewanderer4221 Thank you for asking this question dear friend. In order to answer this question properly, we must look at the Greek language. “Sentence punctuation was invented several centuries after the time of Christ. The oldest copies of both the Greek New Testament and the Hebrew Old Testament are written with no punctuation.” Therefore when we look at Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you today you will be with me in paradise.” It can read in two ways First Truly I tell you or Truly I tell you today It seems that the interpreter chose to place it after you, instead of after today, due to confirmation bias. Notice that when the comma is placed after today, then this passage has a different meaning. So which one is it ? "I say to you today" is a hebrew idiom used to express certainty. Therefore the comma should be placed after today. God Bless You
Other thing is that Roman Catholic and Orthodox believe that Mary remained a virgin in a technically, physical sense even as she gave borth to Jesus. Meaning that her hymen remained unbroken. Either Jesus was "translated" from out of Mary's womb into her arms.....or that Jesus was born in some other miraculous way.
James appears as the brother of Jesus, and brother of Judas, Joseph, and Simon. The letter to the Galatians mentions a James, the brother of the Lord (1:18). Since it speaks of Jerusalem, it must be James the Bishop. This one, called the lesser, as Mark says (6:3), was at the same time an apostle of Christ. Since Jesus only had two called James; and we know that one is the son of Zebedee, and died by Herod; this other must be the son of Alphaeus. Luke (16:6) shows us that James, the son of Alphaeus, is the brother of Judas Thaddeus. And we know that this Judas was the author of the Letter of Jude, which says: "Jude, servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James" (Jude 1:1). We see that Judas presents himself as the brother of James. In Matthew 13, a Judas and a James appear as brothers of Jesus. But in his letter, Judas proclaims himself the brother of James BUT NOT of Jesus, whom he calls servant. From the above, we conclude that the Judas who appears in Matthew 13 is the author of the letter, and he does not proclaim himself as the brother of Jesus, while he does of James, who also appears as the brother of Jesus, and is the one Paul saw in Jerusalem, author of the Letter of James. The name of Alphaeus, his father, is in Aramaic the translation of Cleopas in Greek. This demonstrates that: The Mary who appears on the cross as the mother of James and Joseph is the same one who appears as the wife of Cleopas. Cleopas is the same as Thaddeus, therefore Judas is also the brother of James and Joseph, who appear in Matthew. And it is corroborated in the letter of Judas, where he mentions his brother James, but it is not said the same of Jesus. Additionally, the Simon mentioned appears in (Mt 10:3) and (Acts 1:13). Since the mother of these names is the sister of the Virgin Mary, they are relatives of Jesus, but not direct blood brothers. Understanding that among the Jews there were no words for relatives, it is not wrong to call these cousins of Jesus brothers.
After she had the other children and had some sort of relationship with Joseph wasn't she still a virgin technically because she had her eyes closed? Someone once said that if she was a virgin forever, poor Joseph.
Martin Luther: “Christ, ..was the only Son of Mary, and the Virgin Mary bore no children besides Him... "brothers" really means "cousins" here, for Holy Writ and the Jews always call cousins brothers.” “He, Christ, our Savior, was the real and natural fruit of Mary's virginal womb.. .This was without the cooperation of a man, and she remained a virgin after that.” “It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary's soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God's gifts, receiving a pure soul infused by God; thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin"
@Adam-zn9yh The Greek words translated as “brothers/sisters” can mean cousins, uncles, nephews, et cetera. For example, Abraham and Lot are called “brothers” in Genesis 13:8 and they were actually uncle and nephew. Luke 1:34 makes clear that Mary had taken a life-long vow of virginity.
Titus 3:9-10 “But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them.” Philippians 2:3-5 instructs, “Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others. In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus.”
Dear Christians, Anyone who has devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary will received many blessings from God; graces from the Holy Spirit. Especially pray the rosary for many blessings and God's special protection. Exorcisms have happened through the prayer of the holy rosary, and you receive peace in your soul. The prayer of the rosary is the prayer of the life of Jesus, and it is Bibically based on the Gospel and the 150 Psalms. If you want to get closer to the Lord Jesus, honor His holy Mother; she magnifies the Lord!!! Rosary with words: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3DtN8txVkBs.htmlsi=oNy60-5dhjfeHOn2
Mary, as a virgin, is also believed by the Catholic Church that she is the ark of God. She must remain pure just as God's ark of the covenant remained pure. Of course, this is ridiculous. But their teachings on Mary is foundational to their entire system.
The glory of the Lord and the cloud cover the Tabernacle (containing the Ark) and "overshadow" (episkiazo) them. (Exodus 40:34-35, cf. v. 3) The Holy Spirit comes upon Mary and the power of the Most High "over-shadows" (episkiazo) her. (Luke 1:35) -- David "arose and went" to the hill country of Judah to bring up "the ark of God." (2 Samuel 6:2) Mary "arose and went" into the hill country of Judah to visit Elizabeth. (Luke 1:39) -- David admits his unworthiness to receive the Ark by exclaiming: "How can the ark of the LORD come to me?" (2 Samuel 6:9) Elizabeth admits her unworthiness to receive Mary by exclaiming: "And why is this granted to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" (Luke 1:43) -- David "leaped" before the Ark as it was brought in "with shouting." 2 Samuel 6:15-16) John "leaped" in Elizabeth's womb at the sound of Mary's voice and Elizabeth cried "with a loud shout." (Luke 1:41-42) -- The Ark remained in the hill country, in the house of Obed-Edom, "three months." (2 Samuel 6:11) Mary remained in the hill country, in Elizabeth's house, "three months." (Luke 1:56)
@@rayeemon Amen, brother. The Church knows what She’s teaching. Here’s Mary’s assumption: “Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail.”“And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.” Revelation 11:19; 12:1-2
Dear Christian, Without the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, there is a question as to whether Jesus is God, the second person of the Holy Trinity. The Blessed Virgin Mary was destined to the Mother of God; she was the spouse of the Holy Spirit not just spiritually but physically. She was consecrated to the Holy Spirit which would make normal marital conduct with St. Joseph a hypocrisy--she could not have a divided heart. It would also mean that she sinfully broke her vow of virginity of which she spoke to the angel "How can this be for I know not man?" (Lk 1:34). She was already married (betrothed) to St. Joseph and she would have assumed that a pregnancy would be a normal consequence of her marriage, except for her vow of virginity, without which it could be claimed that St. Joseph was Jesus' physical father, not the Holy Spirit. Her marriage to St. Joseph was valid because consummation of a marriage is not required for a marriage covenant to exist. You may be interested to know that DNA from the blood of the Shroud of Turin shows only one set of chromosomes - from the mother only: 22 chromosomes, and only a "Y" from the father. If St. Joseph was Jesus' father, the blood on the Shroud would show 44 chromosomes like the rest of us humans have. Jesus was God and had only 23 chromosomes - no human father. Article on Shroud DNA: www.christianlearning.com/blood-of-jesus/#google_vignette
I am truly amazed at this video. This gentleman has not come up with any new argument in favour of his claims that Mary was not a virgin forever. Matthew 1:25 has a greater chance of proving his claims, but it is not decisive. The word 'until' can be interpreted in two ways. The references to brothers and sisters of Jesus in the Gospels are a hopeless case for you. There are quite a few passages in the Gospels which identify the actual mother of the so-called brothers and sisters of Jesus, who is also called Mary but not the Mary, Mother of Jesus. This is a clinching evidence that Mary had only one Son and none else.
Thank you the bible clearly says Joseph had marital relations with Mary after Jesus was born. To be honest I do not get what the obsession is with her being a virgin all her life as there is nothing sinful about a husband and wife engaging in sexual relations.
It gives Catholics validation for their praying to her, of other traditions, of Catholicism itself, and its trustworthiness. And, if they are wrong, then there is also a lot at stake.
@@mattmoeller1105 Dear Christian, The KJB teaches that "The Church (Catholic Church because it was the only Church existing during Bible times) The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth." 1 Tim 3:15. So what does the Church say? The posts by Tom_extremee_ and tpoy1274, both ahead of this one, presents a comprehensive Scripture based defense of Catholic teaching, and you will also find that two founders of Protestantism, namely Calvin and Luther, both agreed that the Blessed Virgin Mary was perpetually a virgin. The KJB and two major founders of Protestantism cannot simply be dismissed. Another question: I do not understand why Protestants are so obsessed with their age-old attacks on the Blessed Virgin Mary, while most of them are OK with divorce, which Jesus teaches against (Mt 19:3-12), and they are OK with contraception which has many Scriptures against it, find them here: www.catholicnewsagency.com/resource/55270/contraception-the-bible-and-early-fathers Even though this is a Catholic source, the same Scriptures are in the KJB. But the greatest Scripture against contraception is the 5th commandment: "You shall not kill," because most hormonal contraceptive are abortifacients. Soooo, Protestants attack the most holy Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of Jesus, of whom the Bible says she "magnifies the Lord," (Lk 1:46-56), and that all generations will call her blessed (Lk 1:48), while many of them divorce and remarry (adultery) and use contraception, all against what the Bible says. I am not saying you do these things, but that, as a whole, Protestants, including non-denominational folks, seems to have no problem non-Biblical divorce, re-marriage, and contraception, but they reject the Biblically supported rights and privileges of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of Jesus.
Dear Christian, Without the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, there is a question as to whether Jesus is God, the second person of the Holy Trinity. I agree that sexual conduct according to God's law is holy. The Blessed Virgin Mary was destined to the Mother of God; she was the spouse of the Holy Spirit not just spiritually but physically. She was consecrated to the Holy Spirit which would make normal marital conduct with St. Joseph a hypocrisy--she could not have a divided heart. It would also mean that she sinfully broke her vow of virginity of which she spoke to the angel "How can this be for I know not man?" (Lk 1:34). She was already married (betrothed) to St. Joseph and she would have assumed that a pregnancy would be a normal consequence of her marriage, except for her vow of virginity, without which it could be claimed that St. Joseph was Jesus' physical father, not the Holy Spirit. Her marriage to St. Joseph was valid because consummation of a marriage is not required for a marriage covenant to exist. You may be interested to know that DNA from the blood of the Shroud of Turin shows only one set of chromosomes - from the mother only: 22 chromosomes, and only a "Y" from the father. If St. Joseph was Jesus' father, the blood on the Shroud would show 44 chromosomes like the rest of us humans have. Jesus was God and had only 23 chromosomes - no human father. Article on Shroud DNA: www.christianlearning.com/blood-of-jesus/#google_vignette
@@sjo9292 In no way shape or form does Mary have to had been an eternal virgin for Jesus to be legit. She would only need to be a Virgin before she gave birth which is what the bible actually says. She was a virgin before he was born and engaged in marital relations with Joseph after Jesus birth. If Mary was the spouse of the holy spirit then became the spouse of Joseph she was guilty of polygamy, bigamy OR adultery. Also the holy spirit is part of the trinity. Mary is a created being. So your saying the holy spirit is the spouse to its own child. That sounds wrong on so many levels my friend. No one is arguing that for a marriage to be legally binding the couple have to have sex. I am Merely saying that there is nothing prohibiting Mary and Joseph from engaging in sexual relations after Jesus birth . There is nothing in the bible that explicitly says Marry is the spouse of the holy spirit. Also a married couple that never has sex is missing out on a very special part of the marriage covenant. The bible says that sex is the most intimate form of knowing. There are versus that says a husband and wife should not withhold sexual elations from the other. It seems rather cruel for God to give Joseph a wife and refuse to allow him the full benefit's of marriage. Also I fail to see why he would need to have a marriage covenant with Mary to protect her. One of Jesus apostles took care of Mary after he was crucified and he did not take he take her as his wife. In fact is what your saying an official dogma of the Catholic church?
@@captainmartin1219 Dear Friend in Christ, While it is true that there is nothing wrong with a lawfully married couple from engaging in sex, the Blessed Virgin Mary had taken a vow of virginity (celibacy) which is stated in the Scriptures when she told the angel "How can this be for I know not man?" (Lk 1:34). She was already married (betrothed) to St. Joseph. The fact that she was married at this time is shown when St. Joseph wanted to divorce her quietly when he realized she was pregnant. There is no need to divorce if you are not married. So, she was in a vow of celibacy as a married woman, and tradition has it that St. Joseph also was in a vow of celibacy as well. Their marriage was not a normal one, but they were legitmately married. The Immaculate Conception and perpetual virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary are dogmas of the Catholic Church. Because of your respectful question, I am happy to offer you an insight into the great power of the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary. She is so powerful of an intercessor with God that the demons fear her more than anyone-She is the woman whose offspring (Jesus) crushes their proud head. There is an unusual testimony to this fact in a recording of an exorcism from a year or so ago. It is in Italian, but there are captions. The voice of the possessed person (you don’t see them; only hear the voice) is not human, although it is given through a possessed person. The exorcist commanded the demon to give a testimony about the power of the Blessed Virgin Mary over them. When commanded by an exorcist in a formal rite, the demons cannot lie; they try to resist speaking, but ultimately, they are forced to do as they are commended. Real Exorcism: Demon Forced to Admit the Power of the Holy Rosary ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Qx2s_O3K1c8.htmlsi=skyN2y47SuOzG2z5
about the fact that the Greek word for brother (adelphos; plural adelphoi) does mean sibling and about the fact that Greek has precise words for cousin, nephew, and other close relations. He’s also correct in pointing out that adelphos is the word used whenever there’s a mention of Jesus’ “brothers” (Mt 12:46; 13:55-56; Mk 6:3; Jn 7:5; Acts 1:14; 1 Cor 9:5). He’s wrong, though, to infer from that bit of grammatical truth that Mary had children other than Jesus, mainly because he’s wrong in claiming that adelphos can only mean sibling in the New Testament. In Matthew 13:55-56 four men are named as brothers (adelphoi) of the Lord: James, Joseph, Simon, and Jude. Your former pastor concludes wrongly that these are at least some of Mary’s other children. The New Testament proves otherwise. In John 19:25 we read, “Standing by the foot of the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary of Magdala.” Cross reference this with Matthew 27:56: “Among them [at the cross] were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.” We see that at least two of the men mentioned in Matthew 13 were definitely not siblings of Jesus (although they’re called adelphoi); they were Jesus’ cousins-sons of their mother’s sister.. Sibling mean cousin's or breathen which family or social group. People need understand multiple families lived in house hold. Would you like this L hold it ! Now take.
Like if she was supposed to be VIrgin the whole life.. Why would God even preapre Joseph to be her husband? Sex is holy and God Loves it when we enjoy it the right way inside the marriage. And my personal opinion,"God knew she will still need companionship as a human and will need a husband and a children... and off course if Jesus was born from virgin no one will believe her,and see her as adulterous women also no man will accept her. Hence God gave her a husband herself. "
Dear Christian, the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary and St. Joseph is not an attack on marriage; I agree that sexual conduct according to God's law is holy. The Blessed Virgin Mary was destined to the Mother of God; she was the spouse of the Holy Spirit not just spiritually but physically. She was consecrated to the Holy Spirit which would make normal marital conduct with St. Joseph a hypocrisy--she could not have a divided heart. Her marriage to St. Joseph was valid because consummation of a marriage is not required for a marriage covenant to exist.
@@sjo9292 What you said has no basis in the Word of God, that is simply Mary worship, God borrowed Mary for a season and the bible clearly states she had children as a normal wife would, Joseph did not choose a wife to have a sexless marriage, that is satanic and vile but not surprising as the RCC is rife with paganism and sexual perversion
Please address other false teachings surrounding Mary: her immaculate conception and her assumption into Heaven. They are tied together, because if the RCC would admit she died, there’s no way she could have been born without sin. Born with a sin nature, we are all under the curse of physical death.
Dear Christian, You make a good point. Mary was immaculately conceived and therefore did not fall under the curse of death. In fact, some reliable sources say she never aged. However, she could kill herself, and in a sense she did--not sinfully, but due to her holiness and closeness to Jesus, she loved him so much that her heart would have collapsed from the force of her love had not God kept her alive miraculously, especially during and after Jesus' passion and death. The infant Church needed her, so God kept her on earth, but at the right time, when she was 72 years old according to tradition, God removed the miraculous protection and her heart immediately collapsed from the force of her love for God. After this, she was assumed into heaven, body and soul.
@@sjo9292 Mary was not born sinless. It is impossible and goes against God’s written Word. Mary was human, not divine. The Bible says: Romans 3:10 As it is written: “NONE is righteous, no, not one; Romans 3:22-23 -but it is the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction, for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God- Proverbs 30:5-6 Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.
Dear Friend, Without the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, there is a question as to whether Jesus is God, the second person of the Holy Trinity. I agree that sexual conduct according to God's law is holy. The Blessed Virgin Mary was destined to the Mother of God; she was the spouse of the Holy Spirit not just spiritually but physically. She was consecrated to the Holy Spirit which would make normal marital conduct with St. Joseph a hypocrisy--she could not have a divided heart. It would also mean that she sinfully broke her vow of virginity of which she spoke to the angel "How can this be for I know not man?" (Lk 1:34). She was already married (betrothed) to St. Joseph and she would have assumed that a pregnancy would be a normal consequence of her marriage, except for her vow of virginity, without which it could be claimed that St. Joseph was Jesus' physical father, not the Holy Spirit. Her marriage to St. Joseph was valid because consummation of a marriage is not required for a marriage covenant to exist. You may be interested to know that DNA from the blood of the Shroud of Turin shows only one set of chromosomes - from the mother only: 22 chromosomes, and only a "Y" from the father. If St. Joseph was Jesus' father, the blood on the Shroud would show 44 chromosomes like the rest of us humans have. Jesus was God and had only 23 chromosomes - no human father. Article on Shroud DNA: www.christianlearning.com/blood-of-jesus/#google_vignette
True. Also when spoke in the Old testament as given an example in your video from their study bible, we know that they are not their brothers since it is explained what they really are, for an example Lot. But for Jesus' brothers we never hear that they are truly his cousins for an example.
Mary continued to have children … “Isn’t this the carpenter? Isn’t this Mary’s son and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas and Simon? Aren’t his sisters here with us?” And they took offense at him. Mark 6:3., It's very clear in other passages also that Mary had other children. Mary needed a saver like ALL humanity… “and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, Luke 1:4, Mary was not sinless and had her sins forgiven at the cross.
What was the "until" doing in Mary's case if she never had other children n why call it first born son? If the writer didn't have benefit of hindsight but was just following them, recording the event as it unfolds, we may say he didn't know Mary was going to be a virgin forever, bc he didn't have the benefit of knowing that beforehand. But he was recording these events in hindsight(as sth that's already happened) so why use "first born son" and not "only son" or just "son" and why use "until" when the writer wd hv known before the writing, that Mary didn't have other children but remained a virgin forever. Also, if I was recording events of a virgin who gave birth, if that virgin remained a virgin forever, why wd I omit that from my writing since I was recording the events after the fact???
@NATAR - That until and first born in Matthew 1: 24-25 is a powerful combination that proves Mary had more than one child after Jesus' birth. And, the "knowing" part from husband to wife Indicates Joseph and Mary had sex after the Lord Jesus' birth.
Dear Christian, There are many uses of the word "until" or "till" in the Scripture show that whatever was happening before the word "until" did not change after it. For example: Mt. 28:20 Jesus says He is going to be with us until the end of the age; does that mean that afterward He is not going to be with us? 1 Cor 15:25: He will reign until His enemies are underfoot; does that mean that once the enemies are defeated, Jesus will no longer reign? Luke 1:80 John was in the desert until the day of His manifestation; does that mean that John no longer went into the desert after Jesus began His public ministry? The word "until" is neutral; there could be a change after it, but not necessarily. Being a first born son was a legal term in Jewish law; it does not indicate there were subsequent children. There are many uses of the word "brother" and "sister" in St. Paul, a contemporary of the apostles, and none of them refer to a brother or sister as we understand it today. The fathers of the "brothers of the Lord" are named, and St. Joseph was not the father of any of them. Also, if Jesus had real brothers or even sisters, where were they when He had to give His mother over to the care of a non-relative--unheard of if there were other family. In short, all of the arguments against Mary's perpetual virginity are false.
@@sjo92921. Explain what "until" means exactly, u just saying what it doesn't mean, in the context of sb writing from hindsight: I.e writing after all the event had already happened, with respect to " knew her not until". Imagine u recording an event about sb who lived as a perpetual virgin by saying "her husband did not sleep with her until after the virgin birth" what sense does it make to understand it to mean that, u are saying he never slept with her at all. NB: Do we have any practice of perpetual virgins marrying n remaining a virgin in Israelites cultures? Where wd Mary n Joseph have got this practice from? 2. Why wd sb writing about a historical event that he knows so much about write like that about a perpetual virgin? Why not use at least one line of sentence to write that she was a perpetual virgin, since it's sth so important that shd give rise to a dogma on the rank of Marian dogmas? 3. Why wd the Bible use the word cousin btw Mary n Elizabeth, but when it came to the cousins of Jesus it uses brothers n sisters for them? Why the vagueness? Many questions(concerns) popping up in my head right now. But to see how u resolve all these puzzles, obviously created by RCC trying to promote queen of heaven worship.
Matthew 1:25 The Lord is the firstborn Son and not the only Son, Luke 7 verse 12. Luke 7:12 Now when he came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow: and much people of the city was with her. Matthew 1:25 DRC And he knew her not till she brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
@catholictruth102 Who said the Catholic Church is the infallible church of Christ? Not the Bible, the Catholic Church just made it up and took the title like the LGBTQ community took the rainbow as their own. In fact in Revelation there are 12 churches on earth God recognizes and calls all to remain steadfast in faith and to repent.
When God put Adam and Eve together, He called it "very good". Per the Catholics, God said "No no no, Mary needs to stay a virgin because this Catholic Church is REALLY weird about her staying one forever."
I agree, why would Jesus deny the marriage of Mary and Joseph by denying them sexual relations, I mean they were married, they loved eachother. I wonder why the Catholic Church done this🤔. If Mary was a virgin til her death it was be very very clear.
Dear Christian, Without the perpetual virginity of the Blessed Virgin Mary, there is a question as to whether Jesus is God, the second person of the Holy Trinity. I agree that sexual conduct according to God's law is holy. The Blessed Virgin Mary was destined to the Mother of God; she was the spouse of the Holy Spirit not just spiritually but physically. She was consecrated to the Holy Spirit which would make normal marital conduct with St. Joseph a hypocrisy--she could not have a divided heart. It would also mean that she sinfully broke her vow of virginity of which she spoke to the angel "How can this be for I know not man?" (Lk 1:34). She was already married (betrothed) to St. Joseph and she would have assumed that a pregnancy would be a normal consequence of her marriage, except for her vow of virginity, without which it could be claimed that St. Joseph was Jesus' physical father, not the Holy Spirit. Her marriage to St. Joseph was valid because consummation of a marriage is not required for a marriage covenant to exist. You may be interested to know that DNA from the blood of the Shroud of Turin shows only one set of chromosomes - from the mother only: 22 chromosomes, and only a "Y" from the father. If St. Joseph was Jesus' father, the blood on the Shroud would show 44 chromosomes like the rest of us humans have. Jesus was God and had only 23 chromosomes - no human father. Article on Shroud DNA: www.christianlearning.com/blood-of-jesus/#google_vignette
I’m not claiming Joseph was Jesus biological father, I never said that and I don’t believe that. You claim Mary had to be sinless and perfect like Jesus, you claim but there’s no such mention of this in the Bible, this is a Catholic thing that was added way later. If Mary was like Jesus it would have been very clear not left to chance. Another thing, you claim Mary was sinless and perfect then that means that her mom and her grandmother and so on all had to be sinless as well because Mary had to come through sinless woman, you see how your argument don’t make sense?! Mary was highly favored and blessed this is why God choice her, doesn’t mean she had to be perfect, only God is perfect✝️, only Jesus gave up his life for us and it’s through Jesus that we can go to the father, that’s biblical.
@@MrCarlosVillasenor Dear Friend in Christ, Mary herself said that God was her savior (Lk 1:47), so she needed God's help to be preserved from sin, which was done in a miraculous and singular way, called the Immaculate Conception, because she was destined to be the Mother of God, namely, Jesus, the second person of the Holy Trinity. The need for Mary to be absolutely free from sin, even original sin, is because Jesus was going to be incarnate in her womb. If you would not drink from a glass that had excrement in it, even a tiny bit, then you understand the need for Mary to be sinless. Recall how Uzzah was struck dead for touching the Ark (2 Samuel 6:3-8). For Mary to be in such close contact with God, she HAD to be absolutely sinless.
@@sjo9292says the Catholic Church or the word of God? I know this is not in the Bible anywhere but I know the Catholic Church made it a dogma centuries later, is this correct?
@@MrCarlosVillasenor Dear Friend in Christ, Mary's perpetual virginity is in the Scripture that shows that the Blessed Virgin Mary had taken a vow of virginity (celibacy)when she told the angel "How can this be for I know not man?" (Lk 1:34). She was already married (betrothed) to St. Joseph who wanted to divorce her quietly. There is no need to divorce if you are not married. So, she was in a vow of celibacy as a married woman, and tradition has it that St. Joseph also was in a vow of celibacy as well. There are reference to brothers and sisters of Jesus, but none of them are refered to as sons of Joseph or Mary--and the terms "brothers" and "sisters" was used extensively by St. Paul, a contemporary of the apostles, but St. Paul had no relatives with him as he had apostasized and his Jewish family would have disowned him. The old argument of the word 'till' has been debunked multiple times. The psalm quoted in the video to show that Mary had other children also states that Jesus is a sinner--so it is not valid testimony against Mary's perpetual virginity. The strongest argument in favor of her perpetual virginity is that Jesus had ask his disciple, St. John, to take care of her, which would be outrageous if He had brothers or even sisters. So the Blessed Virgin Mary's perpetual virginity IS in the Scripture. It is a dogma of the Catholic Church which follows the Scripture. Peace.
just a consideration- (1) Matt. 12:47-(Young's Literal Translation) `....and one said to him, 'Lo, thy mother and thy brethren do stand without, seeking to speak to thee.' Brethren can include extended family and relatives (2) Matt. 1:25 (Berean Literal Bible) `But he did not know her until she had brought forth a Son, and he called His name Jesus. Some interpret this as implying that Joseph and Mary had an active sex-life after Jesus was born....others interpret this as Joseph not having sex with Mary whilst she was pregnant with Jesus so as to rule out a `phantom` pregnancy or any possibility that Jospeh was the father. (3) Is Psalm 69 a `Messianic` psalm?, or is it about David himself? -69:5 `You, God, know my folly; my guilt is not hidden from you..... 69:8 `I am a foreigner to my own family, a stranger to my own mother’s children;.....69:24 `Pour out your wrath on them; let your fierce anger overtake them. 25 May their place be deserted; let there be no one to dwell in their tents. 26 For they persecute those you wound and talk about the pain of those you hurt. 27 Charge them with crime upon crime; do not let them share in your salvation. 28 May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous` But what was the Lord`s prayer on the Cross?- `Father forgive them, they know not what they do` (4) When Jesus accompanied Mary and Joseph to the Temple and Mary thought He was with Joseph and Joseph thought He was with Mary, would this not indicate that they only had one child to worry about? Would the girls(sisters) not be with Mary and the boys(brothers) not be with Joseph? (5) John 19:27 (Douay-Rheims Bible) `After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own` Why would Jesus instruct Mary to live with John when there were no shortage of other children with whom she could have lived with? Was it not a Protestant theologian whom suggested that Joseph was widowed with a young family and was looking for someone to care for his home (more-so that raising a new family) This would make Joseph`s children Jesus's step-brothers and sisters.....whom may not have much time for Jesus claiming to be the Messiah and James may not have accepted this until after the resurrection. If God(the Holy Spirit) had Mary as a wife, would it then not be adultery if the Spirit (God) passed her on to Joseph? Christians believe that Enoch was assumed body and soul into heaven and also believe that Elijah was assumed body and soul into heaven... but the mother of the holy Word was not? Some Christians believe that we will be raptured body and soul into heaven before the tribulation starts....are we more important than the Mother of the Holy Word or are we just more arrogant and self-righteous? Is it similar to the conundrum `which came first, the chicken or the egg`, because without God there is no Mary and without Mary there is no Word made flesh? just a (theological) consideration.
This is utter most blasphemy and an insult to Jesus Christ himself. To insult his mother is to insult him aswell If you truly believe Jesus can do all things. Then you can believe that he would give people the grace to see the offense to him him and his mother even if that graces is given after the bible was created! In the Sacred Heart and Immaculate Heart devotion that grace was given. And it included the offensive idea, that Mary the mother of Jesus was not a perpetual virgin. To love Jesus means to love what he loved. He loved his mother. Which he gave to you and me. She loves us and is our spiritual mother who continaually prays and interceeds for us like she did in the Wedding of Cana
@johngraves9237 u are so wrong. We don't worship her. She is the mother to everyone. She continues to pray for each and one of us. Jesus bring us to the Father. Mary brings us to Jesus
Every Christian should pursue what the Church Fathers taught before the N.T. was canonized. And they were the same men God used to then bring us the N.T., so accept what they taught about scripture. Don't accept what somebody misinterprets almost 2,000 years later just because they claim to be a teacher.
Before using Psalm 69 to prove that marry had other children, read Psalm 69:5... I'm a protestant myself but I'd never go to that chapter to prove something about Jesus... Please read verse 5
Good point. Augustine says it was not his own sin but the sin imputed to him. Spurgeon also gave this interpretation; These words are not applicable to our Lord, except so far as they may refer to our foolishness and to our sin, which we know were all laid on him; except that one commentator says that he is here speaking according to the manner of the people. They called him foolish; they charged him with sin, but he appeals to heaven, “Lord, thou knowest whether I have been foolish, whether I have any sins or not.” In that sense we might apply it literally to the Saviour.
@@iThinkBiblically Dear Christian, you make this distinction for the sake of showing Jesus is not an actual sinner as the psalm states but do not want to make similar a allowance for the perpetual virginity of His Holy Mother. So you are inconsistent in your interpretation. If you have read some of the posts in defense of the perpetual virginity of Mary, none of your arguments survived rebuttal. You wish to undermine the Catholic faith; may I ask why? Catholics are Christians, after all. Do you realize that most of the youth today are agnostics and atheists? Please consider that if you do manage to convince Catholics to apostatize, they are in danger of losing their salvation, and they will likely become agnostic or atheist rather than Protestant because they have been taught that the Catholic faith is the true faith. Also, you may become convinced of the truth of the Catholic faith because you are intelligent, educated, and familiar with the work of the Church Fathers. In such a case, your leading Catholics astray may weigh heavily on you. If you want to bear true fruit for the Lord, I humbly suggest that you take down this video and go after those who deny the existence of God and/or practice the occult. There are so many youths today who need to hear the Good News. This is no time for Christians to be fighting each other.
"Mary gave birth to Jesus without knowing a man's touch- this is true. But to think that a married couple never got down, well that's just downright gullibility!" -Rufus the thirteenth apostle, _DOGMA_
Virgin Mary is our mother to everyone that loves her , she is given to us as a mother through John the one Jesus Christ loved deeply! Woman her is your son and to the disciple her is your mother ❤️ from that day she lived with John as real mother and son relationship!
Nobody can prove from the Scriptures that Blessed Virgin Mary had other children.The scripture as well as Church Tradition points that She is a Perpetual Virgin
Show me in the scriptures where it points to Mary’s perpetual virginity. Show me a tradition, with evidence that it goes back to the apostles, that says Mary was a perpetual virgin.
@@iThinkBiblically It is written (Ezekiel 44:2): "This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall pass through it; because the Lord the God of Israel hath entered in by it." Expounding these words, Augustine says in a sermon (De Annunt. Dom. iii): "What means this closed gate in the House of the Lord, except that Mary is to be ever inviolate? What does it mean that 'no man shall pass through it,' save that Joseph shall not know her? And what is this-'The Lord alone enters in and goeth out by it'-except that the Holy Ghost shall impregnate her, and that the Lord of angels shall be born of her? And what means this-'it shall be shut for evermore'-but that Mary is a virgin before His Birth, a virgin in His Birth, and a virgin after His Birth?"
@@GoodPicture-pg5qm Trying to claim a "type" of Mary and her closed womb using this passage is ludicrous. Chapters 40 through 46 are prophecies about the NEW Temple and the manner of worship and sacrifice during the millennial reign of Christ, after the great tribulation. The same Prince mentioned in 44:3 is said to enter by that gate (CH. 46) and worship the LORD through the NEW Priesthood to be established at the beginning of the thousand year reign of Christ. Is Christ going to worship God, or is He the God to be worshipped? There is nothing here about Mary , the birth of Jesus or her virginity.
Mary Jesus Mother was there near the cross witnessing and when the other thieves asked directly to Jesus to remember him, but why Jesus, Mary was there also she's the mother and she can help him get a better favor for Jesus to remember him? 🤔🤔🤔
Jesus is the messiah cause Jesus fullfilled over 300 prophecies that were told about him in the old testament and here’s some verses as to what Jesus response was to someone who called his mother Blessed: Luke 11:27-28 27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” 28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
And scripture flat out says the Joseph did not KNOW her until after Jesus was born. To KNOW was the polite way of saying CONSUMMATE THE MARRIAGE, or GET BUSY. Scripture does not say the Joseph never knew her after Jesus was born.
@@KillerofGods Matt 1:26, “but kept her a virgin UNTIL she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.“ And Luke 2:41-42 tells us the his PARENTS (two) were still alive when He was 12. If you don’t see that she was no longer a virgin there it is because you refuse.
@@jeffreybomba Mathew 28:20 the Greek says Jesus will be with the disciples even until the end of the age. Will he cease to be with them after the end of the age? By your logic yes. By the Greek language standards, no it's merely used to provide emphasis.
Yes, it does when Gabriel stated to the Virgin Mary, "Hail Mary full of grace!" Full of grace means sinless. Also, how could a sinful woman give birth to Jesus? She had to be sinless.
If Mary was not a virgin forever then she is not the "virgin" Mary. The "Virgin Mary" is the queen of heaven. She is the mother of the christian Jesus you believe in. *2 Corinthians 11:4 - For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.*
Not everything is in the Bible John 21:25. In those times, queen was the mother of the king. Jesus is king. Mary is his mother. Mary = queen@@kittensanddaisies5615
Mary was a virgin until she became pregnant with Jesus; a woman is not considered a virgin if she has given birth to a child,regardless of how the child was conceived; immaculate, by the Spirit of God,or by a human being...the point being a " virgin" is a woman is a female that hasn't given birth to a child..Mary had given birth to a human child named Jesus...He was a human by any measurement..Yes He was still God, but he was born just as all humans are born biologically! Without getting too graphic here, Jesus had an umbilical cord & placenta & was delivered just as you & I were. Mary was no longer a virgin after giving birth! And you are correct about Jesus having biological half brothers & sisters, Joseph being the father of these siblings! & f.y.i. Im a Baptist!
I am a protestant, but I still believe in the virginity of Mary, so I'd like to address these points. Address point 1: It was important to emphasize that Joseph did not know her while she was pregnant to fulfil the prophecy that Christ would be born of a virgin. It is an emphasis so that we know the prophecy was fulfilled, but that doesn't mean Joseph "knew" her any time afterwards. Address point 2: The Catholic stance on Christ's brothers and sisters is that they were either Joseph's children from a previous marriage, or that they were adopted. This has just as much evidence as them being biological. Address point 3: Of course Mary would've become a mother figure, a step mother, to the children of Joseph. This holds no more weight than them being called Jesus's brothers.
@@srich7503 Address point #1: I wasn't asking you. Mind your business. Address point #2: Mary was a sinner like the rest of us. She even called Jesus her "Savior." need a Scripture reference? Just ask. That's a freebie. Mary worship is blasphemy and idolatry. Address point #3: The pope is a globalist puppet of the Antichrist and the Catholic Church is the gateway to hell. This is also discernment that doesn't require biblical passages. Or does it?
@@PrisonPreacherThere are places in the bible where until is used and it isn't meant to mean it ceased to exist after that point. It is used in Greek/Hebrew to apply emphasis on something before a point, not to imply it ceases to be after a point like it is implied in English.
@@PrisonPreacherReally you're the one who has to prove point number two. If it is as clear cut as you say you need to show where it says Mary conceived these children.
Yes, she was. Otherwise the virgin birth was no miracle. Sarah, old woman, floored to hear she was going to have a son in her old age. Zacharias, husband of a barren woman, floored when he heard she would have a son. Mary, young woman with no reason to doubt her fertility, floored to hear she was going to have a son when she was clearly expecting to have 4 sons and as many children? Sorry, but all the biblical passages you cite prove those "sons" were actually sons of another woman, Mary of Cleopas. James, "brother of the Lord" was James the Lesser, the first Bishop of Jerusalem. These are recent "revelations" from protestants that don't jive with the previous 15 centuries of Christian teaching where Mary was a temple virgin consecrated to God, forced to leave after she hit puberty and began menstruating and was married to Joseph to protect that vow.
@@iThinkBiblically And what planet are you on that they'd have any reason to acknowledge Christ was born of the virgin birth when she had as many as 6-7 children after Christ? How wouldn't he get lost and lumped in with the rest of Mary's natural born children? The other 7 or so are hers, but Christ the first born is the Son of God and not Joseph? What you said is technically correct but the miracle speaks volumes when Christ is the only begotten son of God _and_ Mary, not _just_ God. Careful reading of scripture proves that 2 of those 4 "sons" are actually sons of Mary of Cleopas. And how about you acknowledge the biblical pattern of the only begotten son with Isaac and John the Baptist? Christ entered is kingdom through the Eastern Gate, and it is to remain shut (Ez 44:2).
