The Vote-by-Mail Debate, Explained | WSJ 

If that's what you want, but your mail will go through.

@Mike Simpson - The video is bogus, not how mail in voting works. First, you only get a ballot if you are on the registered voter list. In some states, five I believe, it is mailed to you automatically. In mine I have to fill out a form, mail it to the Elections Supervisor who sends me a ballot with a return envelope. I complete the ballot, seal it in the envelope which I must sign and must have noratized if I do not qualify for vote by mail automatically. Yes, It is possible to mail a bunch of ballot , but you have to print them and if they don't match the voter registration list they will be discarded and may be referred to law enforcement because each illegal ballot cast is a felony.

Thank You ! Me Neither ! Especially Thiese Pirates !

@@StoryGordon Is that why I got a Ballot in the mail for my father who moved out of this address more than 10 years ago and now lives on the opposite side of the country?

@@micahdunham7874 - If you voted it you are a felon. Your supposed to mark it "Refused" or "Moved" and put it in a mail box. I don't know where you live, but government agencies, especially at the county level do not have the resources to micro manage systems. We want low taxes which means they are underfunded. If he registered to vote in his new county the voter registration form he completed probably has a place for him to inform his new county where he was registered before. Also, the counties I know mark the envelope with a "Do not forward" notice. I recently moved here from another state and noted my former address on the form, but they have not informed my former county. The question remains, how much voter fraud exists? Very little.

Well, when it comes from someone like Stalin, it’s probably true.

exactly...funny that on fox someone would realize trump is just like stalin

@@nickisnyder3450 - The dems are trying to rig the election but Trump is like Stalin? Yeah, you're real intelligent.

You can thank whatever you want then, because you don't live in the USSR. You live in a first world democracy that has systems in place to prevent voting fraud.

Not that Stalin ever said that. www.snopes.com/fact-check/stalin-vote-count-quote/

I hope your 96 year old grandmother doesn't get covid bc that would be a death sentence for her

True Hope it’s our right to vote by Mail too

@@MichaelGrey11 IF you will not be in town to vote, have a medical reason you cannot go to the polls AND have done the paperwork to have an absentee ballot mailed. You do NOT have the right to demand that millions of dollars be spent to mail everyone a ballot. They messed up so bad with the stimulus checks eventhough it was right after a census and you think they can a ballot mailing right? 😅

@@truehope287 Well spending money so that everyone can vote is well spend money haha

Yes

The problem is at ballot box. How do you know that the mailbox full of ballots came from real voters while maintaining their anonymity?

@@josephwilliams3342 not for illegals

Voting by email is the best way to allow fraud! I guess it is a tactic to de legitimate the election as Newsome know there were a lot of non voters that voted in 2016. Democrats will push that it is their only way to rig and fraud the election 🤣

3:50 I'm in the state of Oregon we've been doing this since the 80s it works perfectly fine.

Agreed, it doesn’t seem to bad on the surface but seeing no one talk about any possible flaws and seeing democrats supporting it completely is very concerning

Time to do some research. There are no Democrat and Republican identifying qualities. We're all different and make no pledge to issues. In my state the voter registration form doesn't ask for your political affiliation.

It's strange isn't it? A majority of the elderly vote Republican, yet they are against mail in voting while Democrats are for it. Are a majority of the elderly all voting by absentee? Is there fraudulent activity there? Why do the Democrats want it so badly? Will it enable non-citizen fraudulent voting for Democrats?

@@paulknebel5726 - Good questions. Many seniors vote Republican because they remember earlier times and forget that their Social Security checks and Medicare coverage were created by Democrats. Some of them, especially the white elderly, still believe the racism of their youth is still valid. The idea of mail in voting fraud has been debunked conclusively, but facts are inconclusive for those who accept the fictions and fantasies of charismatics. There's a significant chance this may change in a few months.

@@StoryGordon Debunked by who?? Same news outlets reporting on thousands of uncounted ballots, are now telling you nothing to worry about? Please miss me with that nonsense... www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html www.washingtonpost.com/health/100000-mail-in-votes-went-uncounted-in-californias-primary/2020/07/13/038adf1e-c527-11ea-a825-8722004e4150_story.html

I participated in my county's 2020 mail in ballot processing. Before the ballot is opened the signature on the ballot envelope is compared to the signature on file to be sure it was a match. It almost always was; the few times it wasn't, those were put aside for further processing (which I was not involved with so I can't speak to what happened then). Sometimes it was simple mistakes: a married couple "John Doe" and "Jane Roe" would accidentally sign each other's ballot envelopes, or someone who was extra-concerned about their security refused to sign the envelope so there was no signature to compare.

Signature matching.

I’d also love to hear their reasoning for not allowing someone to apply for a gun permit by mail?

They throw out the republican one's. They keep just enough to make it look good just like in 2020 and what the liberals will try to do again in 2024.

Exactly!!!

Those are one-party states, largely because of mail-in voting. There's no way to verify if those ballots are accurate.

@@superdoglover5676 There is no "one-party state." The signatures on the ballot are matched to the signatures on file for the voter. Voting by Mail has the lowest incidence of voter fraud, which in itself is negligible in the United States.

@@DCFunBud Exactly. Democrats fail to purge their records of people who died. All those valuable votes can't go to waste. Mail: one year they lost my W4. Never did show up. Nope. Not trusting voting by mail. We should be voting in person with valid state I.D. in hand.

@@veganconservative1109 I don't know what you mean that "Democrats fail to purge their records." Where? What state? When my mother died in New Jersey last year her name was purged from the eligible voting list IMMEDIATELY. You need to stop spreading lies.

Down here in Oregon, it works great!

EXACTLY

Opinions are free. Where's your evidence?

@Samsan TheProdigy - They aren't, at least not in large numbers. Every ballot is checked against the voter registration list. One vote per name is allowed. Two or more and all get set aside. The amount of voter fraud, mail in and in person is small and those caught have committed a felony for every instance. Trump thinks more Democrats than Republicans vote by mail, Watch the Republican governors who support it.

@Samsan TheProdigy - It may be important to note that most claims of voter fraud by voters are made by those in a loser's campaign, that Trump did not win the popular vote. Also, none of the fifty state Secretaries of state, most of whom are Republicans, have made a claim of significant fraud.

We saw how badly electronic voting worked during the Democrat primary when it was rushed through. I think 2020 is too important to risk a large majority of the country being unable to vote because of errors mailing in ballots. Maybe in some future period this can work but there is no time now.

@@chiquita683 you cant solve the problem of centralized corruption by telling the corrupt ones to solve the problem... the catch 22 is that they would immediately render themselves obsolete. We could direct vote on every issue with an app. The key is that everyone would vote with a millisat from a bitcoin address so that it is immutable and auditable. We should also put all public money and public spending on an auditable immutable blockchain. Its very simple but THEY like their infinite money printer too much to allow this...

Heed Jimmy Carter on the Danger of Mail-In Voting ‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.’ By John R. Lott Jr. Posted By Ruth King on April 11th, 2020 ‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III. Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S. They helped drive the move to the secret ballot, which U.S. states adopted between 1888 and 1950. Secret ballots made it harder for vote buyers to monitor which candidates sellers actually voted for. Vote-buying had been pervasive; my research with Larry Kenny at the University of Florida has found that voter turnout fell by about 8% to 12% after states adopted the secret ballot. You wouldn’t know any of this listening to the media outcry over Mr. Trump’s remarks. “There is a lot of dishonesty going on with mail-in voting,” the president said Tuesday. In response, a CNN “fact check” declares that Mr. Trump “opened a new front in his campaign of lies about voter fraud.” A New York Times headline asserts: “Trump Is Pushing a False Argument on Vote-by-Mail Fraud.” Both claim that voter fraud is essentially nonexistent. The Carter-Baker report found otherwise. Intimidation and vote buying were key concerns of the commission: “Citizens who vote at home, at nursing homes, at the workplace, or in church are more susceptible to pressure, overt and subtle, or to intimidation. Vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail.” The report provides examples, such as the 1997 Miami mayoral election that resulted in 36 arrests for absentee-ballot fraud. The election had to be rerun, and the result was reversed. There are more recent cases, too. In 2017 an investigation of a Dallas City Council election found some 700 fraudulent mail-in ballots signed by the same witness using a fake name. The discovery left two council races in limbo, and the fraud was much larger than the vote differential in one of those races. The case resulted in a criminal conviction. It is often claimed that impossibly large numbers of people live at the same address. In 2016, 83 registered voters in San Pedro, Calif., received absentee ballots at the same small two-bedroom apartment. Prosecutors rarely pursue this type of case. Mail-in voting is a throwback to the dark old days of vote-buying and fraud. Because of this, many countries don’t allow absentee ballots for citizens living in their country, including Norway and Mexico. Americans deserve a more trustworthy system.

Nope. Thats why Oregon is down in the dumps leftist, anarchist already. Vote harvesting by DemocRats, no voter ID needed by DemocRats, no signature matching allowed by the DemocRats.... this is what happens in 3rd world!

And electronic voting isn't? Foreign countries can hack the machines!

@@We5leigh24 That is completely untrue. You cannot hack the machines, they are never online or over the internet connections in anyway.

And you can't hack pen and paper ether

@@We5leigh24 That is a ridiculous statement. If you manage to get your hands on thousands of mail-out ballots the end up sitting around in post offices or office buildings or wherever they might go, you can fill them out however you want...get it?

The stuff trump says about mail in voting is simply not true, voter fraud with mail in voting has been proven to be quite rare, a study showed that the US only had 143 instances over 20 years, those instances being voter fraud in mail in voting

The Democrats here are trying to say showing ID is Racist. Glad your country hasnt lost it mind. No logic over here just feeling

@@patriciaikeda2608 The Democrats are a bunch of corporate globalists pandering to the commies. We have them over here too, but we have a multi-party system, so the ideology is more thin spread. The problem with this is that it is very hard to form a coalition. Anyway, to say poor people can´t afford an ID is ludicrous. One can make up a system wherein when you are below a certain income the government will provide an id for you. Yes, the taxpayer would pay this, but I guess most comon sense people will be glad to pay such a small price for fair elections.

@@praapje I can't believe how many people are suddenly on board with mail in voting because the news says its ok. This is crazy town!

@Monserrat E yes we and the rest of the world ruined our economies over a hoax

I am sure they have but it doesn't fit with their narrative.

J C It was just last week in Oregon, where they took ballots out of the curbside boxes and marked tons of them for Democrat when they were really Republican. You can’t trust them.

Well, did you vote in the last few elections? you in a democrat state so if you were a democrat they would never kick you off.. TALK TO THE DEMOCRATS ABOUT THAT... but if you reside in two states, that is a problem too...

@@dia856gonzalez3 I am aware who is to blame. Both parties suck.

Steve Martino That’s a shame. Shouldn’t be like that but we also can’t have dead people, people who have moved, etc. voting in our elections.

That's why states had an inter-state voter registration information sharing pact. Until Republican politicians left it recently.

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This is actually an interesting point

That is why absentee voting exists...for those who will be absent during an election. These expansions do make things easier...easier to lose ballots...easier to miscounted ballots...easier to fraudulently cast votes for the dead, the felons, and those who have moved. Liberty comes at a cost. If that is driving to my polling station to legitimately cast my vote in regards to the most important protections of my liberties...I think I may be able to summon the energy

@@EVan-gu8fd Oregon has been voting by mail for twenty years with no problems. Your arguments are just scare tactics. The sky is not falling. You many vote however you like. It is no concern of mine. Be sure to wear your mask and gloves. The seniors that manage the polling stations do not want to be exposed to your germs.

@@DCFunBud ...and for the last 20 years a Democrat state. I have nothing against Democrats or Republicans. Independents etc. I believe we need the variety to supply diverse prospectives and provide balance and checks. As I do not believe we should live in fear, I will not be wearing gloves or a mask to enable yours. I have projected no fears but a rational concern regarding extended mail in voting rules. Luckily, the constitution guarantees both of our rights to have reasonable discussions regarding such matters. May you and yours remain safe.

@@EVan-gu8fd Your unfounded statements catastrophizing Vote by Mail speak for themselves. Your decision not to wear a mask or gloves at the polling station does not surprise me in the least. (It's all about your freedoms, isn't it?) You won't be doing me a favor one way or the other. I will be safe voting by mail and my vote will be counted without incident.

I wonder how many of these ballots were P.O.C? Who is doing voter suppression? justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/one-fifth-all-mail-ballots-disqualified-nyc-primary-signaling-possible www.washingtonpost.com/health/100000-mail-in-votes-went-uncounted-in-californias-primary/2020/07/13/038adf1e-c527-11ea-a825-8722004e4150_story.html

•By matching on personal identifiers •See above •Not on the booth ballot - if someone tried to vote twice, the in-person ballot would be accepted and the mail-in (with identifier attached) would be rejected •This is a good question, and will vary state by state. However the time spent must ultimately be weighed against potential lives lost if we don't fully encourage mail-in voting. Also, note that while double voting in a jurisdiction is prevented by these measures, voting in multiple jurisdictions can be tougher to prevent because there's no central voter registry. However some states do audit collaboratively. Relatedly, see www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-list-accuracy.aspx

@andro You still give your name/address, which is a unique key. This is how absentee voting already works.

we could all direct vote on everything by tomorrow, we could vote by sending a millisat from a bitcoin address, this would be the most secure way to vote known to man at this time. We would also all have access to the transaction history on the blockchain to audit and make sure there is no double spending/voting

Matthew Holt Lives lost? Are you serious? You need to stop 🛑 drinking the MSM’s kool-aid. The numbers for the virus have been manipulated for political gain. The cruise ship study, the Stanford study, and now the University of Southern California study all prove that the models and the numbers regarding the virus have been wrong! Mail in voting, or online voting is just another attempt by the Democrats to cheat in our elections.

Literally every state already has a system for this.

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.

Mainly due to the chance that bias will effect how people vote. Say a state votes very high for the yellow candidate and is released that yellow has won a high value state. This may dishearten people who would vote for a purple candidate in another state so dont vote or make some one who is for the yellow candidate be over confident and so not vote on the day.

@@owenhall5742 true. But they can just collect the ballots and not count them until the voting ends.

@@josephm.6453 good point, im not sure sorry

Doesn't matter. Mil in ballots aren't counted until the polls close.

Right?! We send so much personal and sensitive information online. There's a way to securely vote online we just haven't explored it before

So, I will need to buy a car to vote?

DCFunBud car pool

It’s nice that it works for you and you have no doubts that your vote is verified and counted properly. Other people don’t have your pleasant experience. Some are coerced by their spouse to vote a specific way. Other mail in ballots just disappear (Broward County Florida) There are illegal individuals voting using fake SS numbers or names and numbers of dead people. Blue states are notorious for REFUSING to clean up their voter rolls. Los Angeles had to be sued to get them to clean up the rolls. Why take that chance?

Judy Frances there’s no significant voter fraud in broward county Florida. Trust me.

If most people wouldn't send cash in the mail, why would they trust literally tens of millions of ballots that are easily identifiable to not be tampered with? Democrats think the electorate are blooming fools!

piece keeper they would trust it because every single creditable source there possibly is, even Fox News, has said voter fraud by mail is exceedingly rare. So I guess most people trust credible sources.

@@Bobo-jy5mg Same news media reporting on massive amounts of uncounted ballots just a few months ago suddenly tells you it A OK. Totally credible sources, no bias there. I wonder who tells them what to tell to believe??

WHO ranks these government employees? The Government?

So you whine when they "when" ? Seriously though is already allowed in many places although it is not a large part of the total vote. I however realize that chain of custody of ballots is not continuous in mail in ballot. I can't imagine that it is good. But I also believe that viring machines cannot be trusted either.

So what about Utah?

Big tech suppression. Despicable.

No one loses their chance under current "voting booth" elections. Absentee ballots are in place...to "expand" these rules leaves every voter at risk of being nullified by fraud.

You know you can use blockchain without bitcoin?

Good for busy people, too.

THEY GOT A BAIL OUT... EVERY YEAR THE USPS ARE IN THE RED... THEY NEED NEW MANAGEMENT..

In the now proposed $3 trillion bailout, the post office is up for $25 billion.

Trump is trying to destroy the Post Office just because of Vote by Mail.

Yes, you can contact your voting official to see if and how your vote was posted. This is one way voting fraud can be detected.

What if the pandemic is extreme during that period? In-person only voting is asking for trouble in November. Just give people the option that best suits their situation.

Timothy Wong You’ve been manipulated for political gain. The cruise ship study, the Stanford study, and the University of Southern California study all prove that the numbers and models have all been wrong regarding the virus. And let me ask you this. With your logic, are we all supposed to stay locked in our houses indefinitely? November is 7 months away, are you suggesting that we all remain in our homes until then? How do you think people can survive for 7 months without being able to go to work? Why couldn’t people wear masks and gloves to go vote? The truth is that the Democrats want mail in voting, so they can cheat because they can’t beat President Trump honestly. Joe Biden is suffering from mental decline; and if that isn’t crystal clear to people yet, the debates will expose that reality. Mail in voting will corrupt our election, so don’t be fooled. 😉

@@bambiforester2580 I'll wager you're disinterested in having a true discussion about the merits of mail-in voting. No, I'm not at all suggesting that society and the economy stay closed until November. Obviously, the failure of small businesses and unemployment are an equally troubling issues that can impact the public, especially the poor and most vulnerable. However, it's not as simple as open everything all at once. A more nuanced approach that weighs risks and gradually re-integrates public gathering is the wisest move. Mail-in voting has a role in protecting the most susceptible, most-ill and most immune compromised. The video points out why mail-in only does not work for areas where mail is unreliable. However, no one should have to die to cast their vote. For all the far right talks about sanctity of life, I wish they would embrace that value now.

Timothy Wong No, Timothy, I’m not disinterested in discussing the topic. You shouldn’t assume. But first, I just want to respond to your idea of opening up the economy slowly. Numerous studies have shown that the models used regarding the virus are wrong. The cruise ship study proved that months ago. At this point, the economy needs to open because the stress of no income is endangering children’s lives as well as their parents. It’s a dire situation for many families. The USC study proves that the infection rate of the virus is more similar to the common cold than a deadly virus that kills millions and millions of people as we’ve been led to believe. As far as mail in voting, your very dramatic statement that no one should die to cast their vote comes directly from the Democratic propaganda machine. I don’t know how you can regurgitate that statement with a straight face. So please explain to me how someone is going to die for having to cast a vote? Then we can continue our discussion. Thanks 🙏🏻

@@bambiforester2580 I'm sure you've seen reports and footage of primary voting this spring. People waiting in line for hours, collected together, with diminished processing and capacity due to ill or absent poll workers. There were also fewer polling locations available to voters. This experience of being cooped up next to other waiting voters is especially dangerous to cancer survivors, people with respiratory illnesses, the elderly, etc. By standing next to other sick (but asymptomatic) people or carriers, at risk people may very well die from the experience. More likely, due to concern for their health, these people may stay away from the polls entirely. Either way, limiting options for these vulnerable people could likely effect the election. Also, just because the projected models are incorrect does not mean that the opposite is true. It means we don't have enough information. That should encourage leaders to take time and caution to make thoughtful choices. As well, it's possible that social distancing is having an intended effect. With more than 44,000 people dead already, this is not like the common cold. Those numbers that people cite are often for the year. This has been a few months only.

Doesn't matter. If you complete it and mail it in you have committed a felony. Call your election office and report the error.

@@StoryGordon How are you going to prove who sent it in? How many times were both of those ballots counted in last elections?

@@patriciaikeda2608 - Check this out. www.google.com/search?q=voting+fraud+reported+by+state+secretaries+of+state&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS751US751&oq=voting+fraud+reported+by+state+secretaries+of+state&aqs=chrome..69i57.15063j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

@@StoryGordon Same news organization a couple of months ago... abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/100000-mail-votes-uncounted-californias-primary-71755349

@Samsan TheProdigy So the question I have to ask, is why the states are suddenly defensive under federal scrutiny. I have worked in auditing and when your numbers are OK and systems in place, nothing to hide. Why the push for mail in ballots last minute?? You could say COVID but it seemed premature. Then the mail box stuff that was debunked. Also now democrats are hinting they won't cede to election results. It all seems very fishy. Even Democrats are finding this fishy where I live.

Trump ruined America. Hes actively trying to steal the election and interfere.

@@Ibanez7114 All lives matter!

So? If someone voted for her they have committed a felony.

​@@StoryGordon How are you going to prove who sent it in?? Thats the flaw with this mail in voting, how do you prove who is who? And if the Democrats are soooooo worried about Russia, this should be alarming for them. But its not about Russia is it?

@@patriciaikeda2608 - People have been voting by mail since the Civil War. Trump votes by mail. Why is he concerned?. Voting by mail is done in every state under the auspices of their Secretary of State , most of whom are Republicans. Elections are administered at in more than 3,000 counties, each one with a system for registering and tracking voters. You get to vote once. If a second vote appears, neither one counts. This concern about mail in voting is a bogus issue.created by those who use it with confidence to alarm those who use it and are susceptible to believing people in power always tell the truth. The system is sound and has been for a century and a half. For proof, try to find credible evidence that it is not.

Because it would depend on the possession of a secure expensive devise that not everybody might have.

@@jascrandom9855 You bet me to it in comments. I thought the voting machines were secure expensive machines we already have and use.

You conveniently left out the fact that cases of suspected fraud in vote-by-mail states are still so very low that they are inconsequential, having no effect on the outcome.

ballet harvesting

How Bout ..........NO ! No Mail in Voting At ALL !

TheGirlInTheStars You have to consider the source. The Democrats in this Country have proven that they will lie and cheat to gain power. Because of that fact, you can’t compare our Country to Canada.

@@bambiforester2580 True I agree with you. It is really unfortunate that such a fantastic country has to be exploited and corrupted like that. The American people are really nice but their country is exploiting them and that makes me sad.:(I truly hope that it will somehow get better! :)

TheGirlInTheStars Thank you! 😊

@@bambiforester2580 Yeah because its totally not the Republicans that keep getting caught committing voter fraud. It definitely wasn't Republican voter fraud that got so bad that an entire election had to be thrown out and redone.

@madcheeseknight It can be secure if the government wants it to be, all electoral systems are easily corruptible if the people in charge want it to be.

Its not rare. Same news outlets reporting thousands of ballots not counted suddenly are all for it. Do you think thats a little strange? ://www.washingtonpost.com/health/100000-mail-in-votes-went-uncounted-in-californias-primary/2020/07/13/038adf1e-c527-11ea-a825-8722004e4150_story.html justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/one-fifth-all-mail-ballots-disqualified-nyc-primary-signaling-possible

You know the counter to this is you go shopping right? Wear a mask they work right? Still dont like that request absentee ballot. But stop pushing your fears on the rest of us.