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The VZ-58: Is It Better Than An AK-47? 

Brandon Herrera
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We take a look at the Czech VZ-58, and how it stacks up to its competition the AK Platform.
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@BrandonHerrera
@BrandonHerrera 2 года назад
Thanks for watching guys! I know you’ve been asking for a VZ-58 video for a while so here it is! What are your thought about the gun? Let me know down below! Install Raid for Free ✅ IOS/ANDROID/PC: clcr.me/BrandonHerrera_Raid and get a special starter pack 💥 Available only for the next 30 days
@Mysyns
@Mysyns 2 года назад
Sks
@jorefransen5440
@jorefransen5440 2 года назад
legend
@onetwo6330
@onetwo6330 2 года назад
Hey Brandon
@Mysyns
@Mysyns 2 года назад
SKS58
@Corvy_Corvette_LLC
@Corvy_Corvette_LLC 2 года назад
Hey brandon
@89JDmac
@89JDmac 2 года назад
As a Canadian we love the VZ-58. They were super popular here since the AK is banned but the VZ wasn't... until Commander Sparkle Socks deemed them too scary in 2020. I had one but it fell off my boat in 2020.
@ReformedSooner24
@ReformedSooner24 2 года назад
Indeed. These things happen.
@mattkoethe6691
@mattkoethe6691 2 года назад
"Commander Sparkle Socks"!!! That made my night!
@mattkoethe6691
@mattkoethe6691 2 года назад
Also, I hope you're okay. People keep falling off boats lately
@markszauls2249
@markszauls2249 2 года назад
We still got the Type 81... right?
@tomotor7461
@tomotor7461 2 года назад
You should have loaded the rubber bullets - the gun would have floated then
@stewko
@stewko 2 года назад
I have one, because I was born in Czechoslovakia. Short note - to fire full auto bayonet should be attached for better control of gun. It was in army manual.
@civmike
@civmike 2 года назад
Hmm nice
@ariza7654
@ariza7654 2 года назад
how does a bayonet help recoil control? This just sound odd
@ScarecrowShoots
@ScarecrowShoots 2 года назад
interesting,i wonder what the idea behind that was
@RemoveChink
@RemoveChink 2 года назад
@@ariza7654 more forward weight
@battlewolf578
@battlewolf578 2 года назад
@@ariza7654 adds weight to the muzzle end
@janfrosty3392
@janfrosty3392 Год назад
As a conscript to the Czechoslovakian army in 1966 when I was handed the VZ58 Sargant said ‘solder you will remember the serial number of your gun for the rest of your life’ and he was right, I am using it as a PIN number for my credit card.
@americaneaglez733
@americaneaglez733 Год назад
Ain’t no way some 80 year+ old guy is watching Brandon Herrera
@janfrosty3392
@janfrosty3392 Год назад
@@americaneaglez733 I am 75 not 80+, I back your pardon!
@janfrosty3392
@janfrosty3392 Год назад
@@antonh1159 After returning from rifle range shooting live amo. and trace bullet we were cleaning our guns. On inspection I was told that the barrel is not clean enough and was sent beck to do a better job of it. So, had a smoke, have not touch the bloody thing return after 15 minutes whereas upon inspection I was told ‘it is perfect now’ off you go soldier.
@antonh1159
@antonh1159 Год назад
@@janfrosty3392 thats hilarious!
@VELOC113
@VELOC113 Год назад
What's your guns serial number?😂
@transitionsecurityacademy5375
We are from Slovakia and this rifle is reasonably priced and spare parts and aftermarket is always available to us unlike the AK. We agree on the safety lever it's so confusing and if you got good at it, your AK will give you hard time to get comfortable with. Great video. Thanks
@thatoneguythatlikescamembe5157
Hey, nice to see another Slovak. Ahoj!
@transitionsecurityacademy5375
@@thatoneguythatlikescamembe5157 Ahoj. Dakujem pekne
@user-ft8ic9fu4e
@user-ft8ic9fu4e Год назад
Добрый день
@foobko7722
@foobko7722 8 месяцев назад
Caute😂
@stanislavkobida1989
@stanislavkobida1989 7 месяцев назад
Ja som sa z 58 nastrieľal.
@soundcloudpigglywigglyrhym1548
@soundcloudpigglywigglyrhym1548 2 года назад
I like that Brandon has the objectively worse wood furniture on the VZ because with the beaver barf stock set it's 1000% cooler than the ak in a 60s art Deco cold war style way
@wealthybone2990
@wealthybone2990 2 года назад
Idk the stock looks worse.
@tacticalmattfoley
@tacticalmattfoley 2 года назад
"Beaver barf stock"...I hope people actually get that reference.
@HFMartini6
@HFMartini6 2 года назад
Totally agree
@Iwasthemilkman
@Iwasthemilkman 2 года назад
Mine has the beaver barf and it's a total pussy magnet lol
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 года назад
Well, if you want that style, there's always Type 63(or was it 65?).
@wbbelcher
@wbbelcher 2 года назад
It's not surprising that the Czechs went with their own design. They have a long history of making some of the finest firearms in Europe. I would assume that presented with anything foreign, someone there would say, "We can do better."
@precisionleadthrowing4628
@precisionleadthrowing4628 2 года назад
of course :) even the first firearms were invented by czechs - during husites wars against german holy empire and the corrupt catholic church in 15th century (later it inspired lutherans and protestants - Germs didn't really got over it to this date because it spoiled their scam with indulgences and only recently they changed marketing from sins to carbon (history is fun)
@MPC_2117
@MPC_2117 2 года назад
Vz61 says hhyello!
@dilldowschwagginz2674
@dilldowschwagginz2674 2 года назад
I agree. The Czech's still make some of the finest firearms on the planet and now CZ owns Colt, so hopefully we see some awesomeness come out of that too.
@TrunkLidProductions
@TrunkLidProductions 2 года назад
#CZGANG
@jcgardner5852
@jcgardner5852 2 года назад
See brno
Год назад
In my country, this rifle is very popular,when you have one,you are considered as a real Czech man. I have the one with foldable stock, wich we call "kosa" in Czech, that means "scythe" in English..For Czechs, this rifle is really special symbol of our pride. Love my vz 58, one day i will give it to my son.
@GazalAlShaqab
@GazalAlShaqab Год назад
You Czech brothers are luckier (wiser) with the laws than we are (Your Polish northern neighbors), it is easier for You, and GOOD FOR YOU! :) Please DO NOT LET the EU clowns f@#k it up :)
Год назад
@@GazalAlShaqab Yes it is true, in Czech we have very strong comunity in government and also very strong public comunity of legal firearms. Im glad, this topic of fireamrs in Czech Republic is still well defended against EU and its stupid political ideas..
@quick.fashion
@quick.fashion Год назад
its from slovakia
Год назад
@@quick.fashion Constructer of the rifle was Czech, Jiří Čermák, rifle was manufactured in Uherský Brod in Czech republic... This has nothing to do with Slovakia 🤣🤣
@bewaffneterfrosch176
@bewaffneterfrosch176 Год назад
@@quick.fashion Czechoslovakia man
@ludekspurny5553
@ludekspurny5553 Год назад
I am Czech and a profesional soldier, too. So I spend many years with vz. 58. It is nice assault rifle. Very reliable even in difficult enviroment (rain, dirt, mud) and easy to maintain. Several years when I was member of reconaisance batalion I had vz. 61. It is a Czechoslovakian small submachine gun 7,65 mm browning. I liked it, too.
@radimaltmann6013
@radimaltmann6013 Год назад
Ano přesně
@Simobunjevac
@Simobunjevac 10 месяцев назад
vz58 looks more inspired by stg44 than the ak47, actually it looks like perfected version of stg44
@adamgawron4092
@adamgawron4092 8 месяцев назад
Masz rację, obie konstrukcje o których napisałeś są bardzo dobre. Czesi robią dobrą broń.
@santusvagus1115
@santusvagus1115 8 месяцев назад
@@Simobunjevac C'mon, inspired in what? Similar shape of magazine, maybe. Inside is nothing similar to AK or STG, it's completely original construction.
@based_space215
@based_space215 8 месяцев назад
​@@santusvagus1115is it
@Atesz222
@Atesz222 2 года назад
Hey Brandon. Just wanted to let you know that you indirectly helped me get my C1 English language exam. I was asked during the oral exam about people I follow on the internet and social media and I was asked to introduce you and describe your content. Needless to say, the examiner dropped her jaw when I started using firearms jargons and slangs. So I just wanted to thank you for your contribution in my exam and the things you do. Stay awesome :D
@justdatguy6465
@justdatguy6465 2 года назад
Lol
@Regulativeconclusions
@Regulativeconclusions 2 года назад
That makes you fluent in murican
@froheschwanz
@froheschwanz 2 года назад
(Real) Americans across the country raise a toast in your honor 🍻 and give you a deserved “atta boy”
@BlacksmithYT
@BlacksmithYT 2 года назад
Nice, where are you from?
@krisbuildit5149
@krisbuildit5149 2 года назад
Welcome! We don't always suck this bad it's Brandon's fault. Keep the faith! Edit. NOT this Brandon.... FJB
@AlfredFJones1776
@AlfredFJones1776 2 года назад
Idk there’s just something about the VZ-58 that I really like. It just has that magic to it.
@wealthybone2990
@wealthybone2990 2 года назад
Think the charging looks weird.
@hbtm2951
@hbtm2951 2 года назад
It's a full auto SKS?
@andreivaldez2929
@andreivaldez2929 2 года назад
And a working, bolt hold open on the last round.
@rustknuckleirongut8107
@rustknuckleirongut8107 2 года назад
Its just an AK with a bald spot
@MrScar665
@MrScar665 2 года назад
I am sucker for pretty much everything Chez make. I recently sold a Glock and I am going to buy another CZ
@MrVARLAT
@MrVARLAT Год назад
Im from Slovakia and we use it in army (in 99). If the VZ 58 is in good condition, you can hit an orange in 200 m distance
@petrmikulik5095
@petrmikulik5095 Год назад
If you're lucky enough to have an orange in Slovakia.
@alexejpetrik8987
@alexejpetrik8987 Год назад
@@petrmikulik5095 ??
@stabar8578
@stabar8578 Год назад
@@petrmikulik5095 tak si veme jablko :D
@janolump8091
@janolump8091 Год назад
@@stabar8578 Aha čechačik sa ozval.
@drevostavbasvepomoci
@drevostavbasvepomoci Год назад
@@janolump8091 češi jsou namyšlení kokoti - i proto mám slovenku už víc jak 13 let :-) Btw vz 58 mám už přes dva roky a za akčko bych jí nevyměnil. AK47 je podle mě kopyto, který akorát kope.
@matyxcz
@matyxcz Год назад
I'm Czech. Army service 2000-2001 (more than a decade after SSSR falled apart), one of the last turnuses, only proffesional army since 2004. Had a chance to test both AK and VZ. Won several "weekend out of base" in shooting competitions there. And had to do dissasemble and back of the gun too many times to count 😀 . Honestly - VZ is better than AK. Why? 1. easier to clean. 2. more accurate in burst mode. 3. lighter, 4. more deadly in auto if you can control medium bursts. I was able to hit 3/3 on 200m figurine in burst with VZ, not with AK. And single-shot, for unknown reason, I was hitting 7/10 on 400m "machine-gun-post-target" with VZ, while AK only 3/10 average. In a practical low2medium range combat where AR comes in, the VZ will do better for running around with, medium-range snappin with burst, and if you can control longer bursts in auto, it's much more devastating. Btw. did you know that 7,62x39 is capable of shooting through side of BMP-1 between the wheels? That's where the faster fire rate comes in. Laying hidden aside the road and being able to just spray those 30 bullets at (and through) an otherwise formidable target in such short moment and get away ....
@russian_vladek2170
@russian_vladek2170 Год назад
I'm Slovak. I have 5 of these guns. It's easy to clean. It's modifiable. It's very good gun.
@dacsus
@dacsus Год назад
Exactly, VZ 58 is very easy to clean, and this is a very important feature. It also jams less.
@United.Europe.
@United.Europe. Год назад
I'll just add that VZ stands for "vzor" (model, exemplar, design, standard, type). The 58 stands for 1958.
@Vladimiiirkkt
@Vladimiiirkkt Год назад
SA VZ 58- Samopal Vzor 1958 no asi tak . Zbožňujem zbrane
@johnykara5939
@johnykara5939 Год назад
I think the biggest problem is, autor use plain, unmodified SA 58 vs. short modified AK 47...so this say nothing at all. Plain vs plain or modified vs. modified. Long story short, autor is AK fan, so here we are.
@kmech3rd
@kmech3rd 2 года назад
It's always impressed me how much the Czechs did with a milled vs stamped receiver. Milling thin walls without chatter is not a trivial matter, and the fact they made it lighter than an AKM is impressive.
@ironhead2008
@ironhead2008 2 года назад
They're like the eastern European equivalent of the Belgians: gunsmithing masters
@bitkarek
@bitkarek 2 года назад
thats the reason why nobody else was making it. Its really hard to make.
@r6201sk
@r6201sk 2 года назад
@@ironhead2008 except being in central Europe ;)
@undisputed1one
@undisputed1one 2 года назад
Yes, but the fact the it's short stroke piston makes it inherently lighter anyways right?
@ironhead2008
@ironhead2008 2 года назад
@@r6201sk Ah, yes, that distinction slips my mind sometimes.
2 года назад
To be fair I think the accuracy centered design was because of the Vz.52 which was in 7.62x45mm (don’t know the ballistics on that) and that design was carried over into a more assault rifle, well, rifle when the soviets didn’t like the Vz.52 I really like how mine feels yet i haven’t shot it yet… need some help getting that barrel in lol
@Stylish_Actual
@Stylish_Actual 2 года назад
Wow what an interesting yet not surprising intersection of two of the funnier firearms RU-vidrs
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 2 года назад
Nobody liked the Vz.52 it was a collection of 50 years worth of bad gun ideas from Germany. I would like a Vs.52/57 (I do want easy to get ammunition) to go right next to the spot reserved for the Type 11 hopper fed light machine gun. Both are terrible but cool as fuck.
@henryturnerjr3857
@henryturnerjr3857 2 года назад
I was gonna bring up the vz.52. They only used it a couple of years and they were determined not to use the 7.62 x 39. I remember when you could buy the vz 52s in the 90s for less than $100 in unissued condition. Ammunition was pretty much unobtainable though!
@dragmorian6347
@dragmorian6347 2 года назад
Dude, I’ve never heard of the VZ52. Thanks for the added knowledge! Another awesome piece of human engineering. So many cool guns and so limited funding…good damn gas prices…
@honzabalak3462
@honzabalak3462 2 года назад
@@henryturnerjr3857 Actually a Vz.52/57 exists. It's a version in 7.62x39. And it's not like some old 52s were rechambered. The 52/57s were purpose-built.
@labros318
@labros318 Год назад
I'm in the army as a reservist and we still use the SA 58. I've fired thousands of rounds out of it. It is a very popular weapon among the team. It still works, minimal glitches. It is light (this is a big advantage, you can run with it and hold it in high positions) and simple. Working with a fuse is not a problem if you get used to it. In the military, no one gets a lot of cuddles, and this gun holds up. You can throw it on the ground for several generations and it will still shoot accurately and flawlessly.
@danh6720
@danh6720 3 месяца назад
Do those rifles use a muzzle brake now or just the thread cover?
@labros318
@labros318 3 месяца назад
@@danh6720 The military still uses original weapons, so there is only a thread cover.
@danh6720
@danh6720 3 месяца назад
@@labros318 I suppose not worth buying even that small item since the Bren 2 is being adopted somewhat quickly now. I had to replace the barrel on my vz58, but here in the US it is difficult to get original barrels. The couple barrels that are made here use the thread pattern from the AK because there are more muzzle device options that way.
@labros318
@labros318 3 месяца назад
@@danh6720 Compensators for 58 are easily available here. And yesterday I received a message that our unit will also receive a bren 2, so that's the end of vz 58 in our army.
@danh6720
@danh6720 3 месяца назад
@@labros318 A fantastic rifle itself. The Bren 2 is very smooth shooting for a pistol rifle. It is very wide though. Bulky in comparison to the Vz58
@F1lmtwit
@F1lmtwit Год назад
You keep wanting to hate it, but deep in what's left of your heart, you know it's the better rifle.
@bruceleehee9267
@bruceleehee9267 Год назад
💯
@DesertAvenger
@DesertAvenger 2 года назад
One note: The vz.58 isn't striker fired, it's hammer fired. The firing pin is a separate component from the *linear hammer* (instead of a swinging hammer like most firearms).
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 2 года назад
Yes, 100x yes. Drives me batty.
@BrandonHerrera
@BrandonHerrera 2 года назад
I actually clarified that at one point, but it didn’t make the edit
@DesertAvenger
@DesertAvenger 2 года назад
@@BrandonHerrera oh lmao that's one unfortunate edit. I thought it was weird for you to miss a detail like that.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 2 года назад
@@BrandonHerrera Too many white claws in the editing room methinks.
@shadowsniper9513
@shadowsniper9513 2 года назад
Thank you for the clarification, your comment made me pull mine out of the safe and investigate but your absolutely right! I never realized that before
@LogieT2K
@LogieT2K 2 года назад
Czech engineering is criminally under appreciated Its tanks at the start of the second world war were some if the best in The world at the time and the germans actually kept them in production for the wermacht Its no surprise that they build a solid rifle too
@mceza
@mceza 2 года назад
Czech engineering was for decades worlds top class. Unfortunately most of if is gone and we are just cheap assembly line for German factories now :(
@FelixstoweFoamForge
@FelixstoweFoamForge 2 года назад
Yeah, lets hear it for the Skoda pz35(T). About a third of the mediums used in Barbarossa in @41 were skoda vehicles.
@himikalka
@himikalka 2 года назад
Awesome vid, sir. Learned something new today!
@billywuzhere9256
@billywuzhere9256 2 года назад
Well, we trained all of last week on the VZ58, the bren in 7.62 (apply named by me as "the gucci AK" which really pissed off tge Czechs) and the scorpion-evo. All of them were pieces of crap except the evo.
@RuzzP
@RuzzP 2 года назад
It's called Czechnology
@Thomas-ld1fm
@Thomas-ld1fm Год назад
It has become the weapon of choice for many PMC's and was (and still is) heavily used in Afghanistan and other such places. A few simple after market mods fix all of the complaints for AK lovers and they quickly convert. Change the selector switch and mag release to ambidextrous, add a flash suppressor, and change the pistol grip (the original is a little small) and fore stock. The gun is noticeably lighter, much easier to field strip and clean, being able to use stripper clips is great, being shorter makes it great in vehicles and close combat (even better if you have the following stock), the faster rate of fire allows you punch holes in harden targets, brick and stone walls, and light armored vehicles. In single shot it is far more accurate than the AK and can hit farther targets than the AK. In full auto its a climber so if you aim a little lower a mag dump will travel in a 3 inch wide strip for about a foot straight up, whereas with the AK you'll have a one foot circle. As for the bayonet, come on, the bayonet is a last resort item, if you have to use your bayonet it means that you are in a hand to hand situation and that comes down to who is the better trained soldier and luck, but don't worry the Vz-58 Bayonet will not let you down. If you want to see another (still in use) Czech rifle look at the Vz 52/57 it will make the SKS lovers have wet dreams
@12325814
@12325814 Год назад
Just 2 points, after living with Vz.58 for a year: 1) the weight difference in favor of Vz.58 is more than 0,5 kg (2,9 kg of Vz.58 vs. 3,5 kg of AK) - you WILL appreciate the weight difference quickly, if you carry the gun whole day 😉 2) using the selector is both intuitive & super-easy with first phalanx of the right index finger - and all that without releasing grip or de-focusing from target. Still consider it a nice feature, definitely not bug.
@Conviction4696
@Conviction4696 2 года назад
Czechoslovak leadership: "How can we say 'fuck you' to the Soviets without actually saying it?" Czechoslovak arms designers: "We could build a rifle that *looks* like an AK, shoots the *same* bullet, but is completely different in every other way possible." Czechoslovak leadership: "Do it."
@user-yk2xb1ti2w
@user-yk2xb1ti2w 2 года назад
Czeck arms designers: If we take AVS - 36 as a base no one will know .... Soviets: facepalm
@edwardfowble9429
@edwardfowble9429 2 года назад
I’m thinking the same with another pseudo-AK: The Chinese type 81.
@ironhead2008
@ironhead2008 2 года назад
@@user-yk2xb1ti2w Eh, part of the problem with the AVS was the caliber: 54r is a big powerful round and if you're gonna chamber it in a fairly light (compared to a machine gun) fully automatic rifle, you had better have your shit together and even then controlling it is gonna be a bitch in full auto. I'd argue that's a reason why the Eastern Bloc didn't have a "Battle Rifle" phase: the Soviets had already played around with them and realized they were no good for a regular service weapon. Full size cartridges are best in a semiauto only infantry rifle (the Brits took that tact with the SLR) and a open bolt full auto GPMG. That same rifle design turned out great once it went through a little more development and was converted to 7.62x39: the SKS.
@Starobrno341
@Starobrno341 2 года назад
@@user-yk2xb1ti2w more like tuned out sks, avs is diferent story
@tlshortyshorty5810
@tlshortyshorty5810 2 года назад
they’re a strong independent country; they don’t need no Soviet military aid
@TheBananaDealer
@TheBananaDealer 2 года назад
I've always looked at the Vz. 58 as having more in common with an SKS than an AK - short stroke, the hinged mechanism is similar to the SKS's tilting bolt, open top-cover, accepts stripper clips. It falls more in the category of the Chinese Type 56 and Type 63 - "not quite AKs, but close enough".
@bobsmoot2392
@bobsmoot2392 2 года назад
And the MP44.
@TheBananaDealer
@TheBananaDealer 2 года назад
@@bobsmoot2392 No (not quite at least), the MP44 is also long-stroke like the AK47, with the difference being that the MP44 has a tilting bolt (like the SKS), while the AK has a rotating bolt.
@bobsmoot2392
@bobsmoot2392 2 года назад
@@TheBananaDealer Striker fired. I agree. The VZ is more like the SKS in some ways.
@TheLzep
@TheLzep Год назад
VZ-58 is really good weapon, especially modern versions. Maybe it´s a reason why Stonebrige and Scott use it in Strikeback series. 😀
@paulgodden8712
@paulgodden8712 Год назад
I heard the strains of “Short Change Hero” when I read this!
@thefooltouchstone3569
@thefooltouchstone3569 11 месяцев назад
Loved how I could see the smoke coming off the forearm while you were talking about heat build up around the foregrip!
@viktorsvicka6290
@viktorsvicka6290 2 года назад
Well, from what I know, my grandfather told me that the reason we made Vz. 58 different from the AK was to keep some independence from Soviets back in the day. It was somewhat popular as it even saw service in the Vietnam war, Cuban conflicts and in Afghanistan too. I really do enjoy AK rifles but Vz. 58 is something that I need in my collection as it is piece of our history. Fun fact but I think that some of the guys here will know. Vz. 58 is still in Czech military service even after Czech army adopted the CZ 805 Bren.
@honzabalak3462
@honzabalak3462 2 года назад
The majority of them are used by the reserve, though. Also the army is being (very slowly) rearmed with the Bren 2 rifles and the 805 Brens are in turn being sent to the reserve to replace the Vz.58.
@Milner62
@Milner62 2 года назад
Is was to thumb noses at the Russian occupiers. It's the same reason they designed the CZ52 pistol in 7.62x25 with it's MG42 double roller locking mechanism over the Russian design pistol, and the same reason why they used the superior CZ82 they designed instead of the Makarov design. Both of theses are in my collection, never fired the CZ52 as it's in the original parkerized finish and considered unissued condition. My CZ82 I have fired many times and is great. It's best if you hunt one down with the original polygonal rifled barrel. They never wear out and every ballastic test I've seen showed it leaves no projectile markings to match it up to the gun. Only one I don't have is the VZ58 which is hard to locate.
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 2 года назад
LOK...I commented, from my knowledge of some Czech friends, that the thread was opposite because you guys *hated* the ruzzians ...
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 2 года назад
LOL...
@gpants1481
@gpants1481 2 года назад
You are correct, my wife is Slovak and her Grandfather and two uncle's were oficers in the Checkoslovakian Army and they said it was a way for them to keep thier own identity and essentially thumb the nose at the Russians
@nb9121
@nb9121 2 года назад
You have to keep in mind when asking why this gun was designed that it was a symbol of national pride and resistance in the face of Soviet dominance. Czechoslovakia was far more resistant to Soviet political, military, and economic control than any other nation in the Warsaw Pact, so it would make sense that their army would be of a similar mindset. Combine this defiance with the storied tradition of Czech arms design in the interwar period (VZ 26, ZH 29, and the plethora of Mauser derivatives) you understand how this nationalistic thought characterized Czechoslovakia in the early Cold War. This gun is more than just a gun, it’s a political statement meant to tell the Russians that, despite their political control, they cannot fully subjugate the Czech nation and people.
@user-ko1vj2tx6q
@user-ko1vj2tx6q 2 года назад
Wanted to write same about VZ and Czech republic , but seems u first
@geneyso1595
@geneyso1595 2 года назад
I was about to ask why they made a new gun that feeds from a different magazine since that would be a logistical problem but yeah that is neat
@Acre00
@Acre00 2 года назад
I've always greatly admired the Czech for this reason. God bless them, and may their independent spirit ever burn bright
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 2 года назад
And for the most part, Czechoslovakian products were made with better quality then the Russians.
@phprofYT
@phprofYT 2 года назад
Rule number one: Don't mess with a Czech. Rule number two: See rule number one.
@peterniepel6218
@peterniepel6218 Год назад
I have never fired an AK, but I have fired this, and it felt incredible the first time I did. I was like 14 or 15 when I first tried it - I honestly thought it would be more difficult to control.
@user-sy1wf4bi4d
@user-sy1wf4bi4d 7 месяцев назад
of course vz.58 is much better than AK. I'm slovakian, born in czechoslovakia, own vz.58 but fired AK many times and can just tell you that quality, accuracy, overall craftmanship - these are simply uncomparable.. we in czechoslovakia know how to produce quality arms, while russians don't..very simple.. :)
@anthonykennedy2323
@anthonykennedy2323 2 года назад
I think it is worth mentioning that Brandon was more accurate with this VZ than most of his AKs... lotta awesome PLINK sounds.
@jasohavents
@jasohavents 2 года назад
It has a short stroke gas piston It can load from stripper clip It still has removable magazines It takes 7.62x39mm The only problem is it doesn't take AK magazines. Otherwise perfect rifle.
@magoshighlands4074
@magoshighlands4074 2 года назад
Unfortunately, the way the clip guide is it's got a bad habit of tripping the bolt and going half into battery when you use them
@andreivaldez2929
@andreivaldez2929 2 года назад
It also has a functional bolt hold open on the last round. Not sure how feeding from stripper clips is a bonus, though: this ain't the early 1900s anymore.
@duncanchestnut5583
@duncanchestnut5583 2 года назад
IDK, I have to agree with Brandon that safety is SKUFFED
@BrandonHerrera
@BrandonHerrera 2 года назад
“Perfect”
@jasohavents
@jasohavents 2 года назад
@@BrandonHerrera Hey I still have my AK, I love her. But I gotta appreciate good Slav Design. It's basically a suped up SKS.
@crumpledpaper8897
@crumpledpaper8897 Год назад
Just shot a vz 58 today and honestly it was amazing to shoot. Smooth trigger pull, barely any kick (especially compared to a ak) and overall it kicked ass
@nastynate4916
@nastynate4916 Год назад
The VZ58 was also used in Full Metal Jack as the weapon of choice by various VC fighters including the sniper at the end of the film. I don’t think it was meant to be in place of the AK since it was one of the weapons given to North Vietnam during the war. Either way, it works
@thegreenberretwearingbrony9678
@thegreenberretwearingbrony9678 2 года назад
The VZ. A proud piece of czechnology. Even tho I didn't help develop it, it still makes me extremely proud
@watchdogCZ
@watchdogCZ Год назад
Just so that you know, the "vz." ("vzor") simply means "Mk." ("Mark") in Czech, and is followed by the year of introduction into the army, meaning the weapon is called something like "Automatic Mk. 58" ("Samopal vz. 58" in Czech). ;-)
@thegreenberretwearingbrony9678
@@watchdogCZ you don't have to tell me, I am a czech lmao
@anthonykelly1368
@anthonykelly1368 Год назад
During the Cold War, Czechoslovakia was to Warsaw Pact what France was to NATO. They had their own small arms, which were well made and they weren’t changing how they did business, even for a super power. Also, current small arms individual weapons manipulation was not something they considered We train to fight from a standing position much more than 1950s-60s soldiers from any army. They fought overwhelmingly from the prone and made short rushes. Many times covering ground behind AFVs. The VZ58 is pretty ergonomic, even for right handed shooters, when you’re handling it in the prone (look at the “flat” lead edge of the mag, for example: monopod anyone). Also, it’s no coincidence there’s absolutely no interchangeability with the AK: even the compensator. They didn’t want it. Soviets dictated caliber, but allowed them to design their own rifles They were so independent minded and not compliant with the Soviets, in fact, that the Soviets had to invade Czechoslovakia in 1968 and crack down because there was way too much independent thought going on. Great rifle. I like both the AK and the VZ. But they are nothing alike VZ is actually closer to WWII german stuff, not the MP44, the other semi auto, which I forget the name of at the moment. Enjoyed the video!
@ivor1689
@ivor1689 Год назад
I had the chance to fire one of these when I was a British soldier on peacekeeping in Bosnia. We were with the Czech army on deployments we had a range day with them where I fired this weapon and the Czechs had a go on our SA80's. I found it was not bad to fire but when firing automatic, it tries to climb and the Czechs were surprised at how heavy our SA80 was, but found it pleasant to fire on automatic.
@slavikjosef8568
@slavikjosef8568 Год назад
There is a chance you ran into my father in Bosnia. He was there as a part of the UNPROFOR and SFOR missions.
@foreignfat6009
@foreignfat6009 3 месяца назад
It was more pleasant because it was heavy. You could just add more weight on it and make it similary pleasant.
@InvidiousIgnoramus
@InvidiousIgnoramus 2 года назад
That recoil controllability might have had some level of legitimacy to it if the AK didn't have a JMAC Customs 4 chamber brake threaded to it.
@_whyte.woods_1256
@_whyte.woods_1256 Год назад
Yeah, big oversight
@hornmonk3zit
@hornmonk3zit Год назад
That and a much lower pressure gas block that slowed the fire rate down to like 450 rpm. I'd be willing to bet it even has a higher strength recoil spring too, the Wolff XP spring in my AK drastically reduced the jumpiness just in semi auto. Absolutely rigged.
@jurajokasa834
@jurajokasa834 Год назад
vz 58 was mainly built to opress comunist AK47 ......and original caliber intended for Vz58 was 7.62x45 but hooks to hell they had lot of 7.62x39 laying around so it won ove x45 variant
@karakas9905
@karakas9905 Год назад
Yeah, this why the channel is called AK Guy, not VZ Guy
@kasper_429
@kasper_429 2 года назад
Brandon: "The gun is much harder to control." Also Brandon: **Compares a tuned AKM with 4-port muzzle brake to a bone-stock VZ-58 with a bare muzzle** But seriously though, if there's a way to tune these, and you actually found a muzzle brake that fit it, I feel like the recoil control would be pretty similar. The VZ would still be a bit harder because of the faster ROF, but yeah. Apples to oranges.
@Oberkommando
@Oberkommando 2 года назад
Slovaks have built some very decent muzzle brakes for it.
@unclesam5733
@unclesam5733 2 года назад
They can be tuned quite well. Czech army members used tuned up versions until the adoption of Bren 805 and Bren 2
@high633
@high633 2 года назад
Its a 14x1 righthanded thread if i remember right. With a detent lock on it. So find a 762 brake with that thread and your good to go. Most people i see with vz58's just run the sf brake that the czechs came up with before the sa58 got adopted.
@thatguybrody4819
@thatguybrody4819 2 года назад
i wonder if the Slant brake would work. Brandon himself said they work a little too well, so maybe a smaller slanted brake would be the right fit.
@isosev
@isosev 2 года назад
I really want to see Brandon gucci up a VZ and see how it runs.
@psttech4290
@psttech4290 Год назад
did some training back in 2002 with czech sf teams while serving. they were using the vz58, they were modernised versions with shorter barrel, suppressors, folding stocks and optics. didnt get much time with one (trading my l85 for 5 mins) but didnt seem that bad
@karelkozlovsky5612
@karelkozlovsky5612 7 месяцев назад
as we were taught during training - weapon safety facing forward - towards the enemy (shooting burst), safety facing backwards - towards yourself - 1 round - for yourself ...
@Logovanni
@Logovanni 2 года назад
I think it’s very important to remember that the Czechs really hated being a part of the Soviet Union against their will. Many of them saw it as no different to being occupied by the Nazis. So there was always this sort of subliminal resistance to the soviets going on, and it’s very evident in their arms manufacturing. So the Vz. 58 wasn’t made because they thought the AK was bad and they thought theirs was better, it was really a “go fuck yourself” to the soviets. The same thing applies to the original vz. 52 rifle and pistol. And the CZ 82 later.
@thesaul9484
@thesaul9484 2 года назад
Czechoslovaks*
@donbrom554
@donbrom554 2 года назад
@@thesaul9484 Drž hubu a krok, nikdo přece nemusí o Slovácích vědět... a o lidech v Brnu už vůbec ne.
@Logovanni
@Logovanni 2 года назад
@@thesaul9484 well, without getting into a too deep breakdown of the history of Czechoslovakia, which was more of an allied front to gain independence from the Austro-Hungarian empire, the country known as Czechoslovakia was always a very non-integrated culture. All the firearms I talked about were developed in the Czech side and at that time, plants on the Slovak side were manufacturing Soviet arms, so it’s not wrong to talk about these firearms as being a Czech product, not a Czechoslovak.
@The_Remage
@The_Remage 2 года назад
As someone who still has the good ol' red star Czechoslovakian passport, thanks for typing out what I wanted to type, lol
@deejayimm
@deejayimm 2 года назад
This is specifically why I prefer the vz58, just because I love that FU mentality, and it's built really well... The side folder is rock-solid even after all these years.
@LOVEMUFFIN_official
@LOVEMUFFIN_official 2 года назад
As a card-carrying left-handed person, the VZ-58 is a rare example of a vintage firearm perfectly designed for us southpaws. This endears it to me in a way the AK or really any other vintage firearm can’t match.
@rsr3959
@rsr3959 2 года назад
True in stock form. Upgrades/aftermarket parts eliminate any left-handed bias however.
@ukaszbiaas183
@ukaszbiaas183 2 года назад
How do You operate the magazine release? Can You reach it with Your trigger finger?
@LOVEMUFFIN_official
@LOVEMUFFIN_official 2 года назад
@@ukaszbiaas183 Yes, but I have very long fingers. It’s the least lefty-friendly aspect for sure, but I suppose you might also be able to do a reach around grip on the magazine like you were going to save and dump-pouch it.
@rsr3959
@rsr3959 2 года назад
@@ukaszbiaas183 Left hand can use trigger finger. There are aftermarket releases for right hand that use trigger finger. Due to less tilt to lock required for mag engagement vs AK, mags drop free when release is activated and barrel is pointing slightly down.
@ukaszbiaas183
@ukaszbiaas183 2 года назад
Sounds cool. I gotta get one of those.
@user-wc9vt1br2f
@user-wc9vt1br2f Год назад
I bought mine because the price was un beatable. It's not the VZ58 but the VZ2008. Only semi auto is the difference. I paid less than $500 for it and it still remains one of my top 3 guns I own. I did put some upgrades in the stock and grip that makes it even better.
@kurotori8030
@kurotori8030 5 месяцев назад
5:25 The Pure darkness coming out of those words actually maked me feel TRUE FEAR, and that was so intense that i actually subscribed.
@togher23
@togher23 4 месяца назад
me too :D
@mangofett927
@mangofett927 2 года назад
Biggest gripe about the VZ is the lack of good ways to mount an optic and other accessories. That being said, the paratrooper stock and beaver-barf handguard is a whole vibe. My brother has one and it shoots surprisingly soft for how light it is.
@Ephem13
@Ephem13 2 года назад
The receiver cover mount is annoying for disassembly and the side mount is a bandaid, so I feel you on that.
@B.U.K.O.
@B.U.K.O. 2 года назад
@@Ephem13 Slovakian army uses upgraded versions with rails and modern optics, but still old good reliable rifles. Recruits and new soldiers uses these in basic versions
@InvidiousIgnoramus
@InvidiousIgnoramus 2 года назад
You can get a full set of MLOK furniture for the VZ, and stock adapters.
@ThatAws0meGuy
@ThatAws0meGuy Год назад
so have one like that and literally everyone i have had shoot it prefers my sks. it makes me sad
@Shajzemon_SVK
@Shajzemon_SVK Год назад
You can have ris rail on dust cover and there is also a ris variant of forend. At least here in Slovakia.
@adamaenridi7272
@adamaenridi7272 2 года назад
This rifle is our version of 'Don't tell me what to do mom!". Great video, cheers from CZ!
@dilldowschwagginz2674
@dilldowschwagginz2674 2 года назад
Right on! Keep making world class firearms and PLEASE make a double stack micro 9.
@mariankohn8411
@mariankohn8411 8 месяцев назад
I'm so proud I was born in the very same country where this beautiful gun had been developed and produced. Former Czechoslovakia. We have been two independent countries for over 30 years now - the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic. ❤
@rogerrabbit110
@rogerrabbit110 Год назад
4:49 "Czeching you priviledge". Thanks for the pun Brandon. As a czechoslovak I appreciate that (mom czech, dad slovak)
@garnix6390
@garnix6390 2 года назад
When judging the gun, don't forget: Guns were also a political topic. Czecho-Slovakia had before WWII a very well developed weapons industry, and produced also for Germany in WWII guns. They wanted to "isolate" themselves a bit in the warsaw pact - and don't forget: 1958 was the Emerge of the VZ-58, just 10 Years later, in 1968, the russians "liberated" Czechoslovakia from its own political path in Prague.
@waaaaaaaaghhhhh5809
@waaaaaaaaghhhhh5809 2 года назад
For czehoslovakian tanks that crushed soviet soldiers, czehoslovakian mausers that shooted soviet citizens, czechoslovakian shells ripped in to pices soviet kids, for all of that soviets had to gave flowers to czehoslovaks or witch type of gratefulness ?
@tomasteply1956
@tomasteply1956 2 года назад
@@waaaaaaaaghhhhh5809 lol learn sth about history bro
@magosmarechferracioli1128
@magosmarechferracioli1128 2 года назад
@@waaaaaaaaghhhhh5809 I can assure you, the Czechs were not producing much of that equipment of their own free will. Reinhard Heydrich was making damn sure of that.
@prince.rastislav
@prince.rastislav 2 года назад
@@waaaaaaaaghhhhh5809 What the hell were you trying to say with that? Not sure if i should laugh or if that would be considered "ableist" these days
@xthee_0nly_1x11
@xthee_0nly_1x11 2 года назад
7.62x45mm
@vprsrul
@vprsrul 2 года назад
I’ve got one, and as a “wrong handed” shooter, the safety works well for me. Doesn’t seem any more practically accurate than a good ak but it’s a cool rifle.
@imw4497
@imw4497 2 года назад
@@Org80 He made a video on that recently
@wanderingwonder111
@wanderingwonder111 2 года назад
@@Org80 m82a2 (bullpup barret 50 cal)
@jimbothegymbro7086
@jimbothegymbro7086 2 года назад
yummy brass? or rather steel in this economy
@Eggys5
@Eggys5 11 месяцев назад
I love how Brandon at the end of every shooting, twice reloading gun. Impressive!
@MrBThorn
@MrBThorn Год назад
Hey nice video! I only disagree with the shooting distance, as a former shooting range commander we had effectively hit targets on 400m without any problem and the bullets were even destroing high voltage isolators in the range of 1,5 km.
@FeriB19
@FeriB19 Год назад
I was a member of the army in 1995 and 1996. SA vz.58 has a range of 2.8 km and has deadly effects on humans throughout the entire flight. Of course, the accuracy at such a long range is small.
@arbanasialbanesi
@arbanasialbanesi 10 месяцев назад
Don't mind him, mate, he (Brandon) is an American 😊.
@petrsukenik9266
@petrsukenik9266 2 года назад
The reason why VZ 58 was developed was as much about army requirement as about national identity, since Czechoslovakia had big gun manufacturing tradition Originaly, Czech even wanted different caliber
@crunch4389
@crunch4389 2 года назад
The fact that Brandon did this in 100 degree weather is next level dedication. Proud to be a sexy youtube motherlover, and proud to be a member of the #akgnotificationsquad
@bradybacot2416
@bradybacot2416 2 года назад
Trust me living anywhere in texas thats below the Dallas area, I guarantee you will see 105° days on the regular. I live in Houston so I know.
@ScarletTheRedtail
@ScarletTheRedtail Год назад
I like how you explain things, your gun reviews are always informational. Also, "piston goes doink on bolt carrier" was great. 😂
@live-fz2wk
@live-fz2wk Год назад
Simple gun and it works always in any weather. Had them in the army in 90 tees. Its not perfect but it does the job. Easy to clean and disassemble and reassemble.
@vitpokorny6563
@vitpokorny6563 2 года назад
As an owner of one i can tell you that there is a way to operate the switch with the palm and trigger finger without letting go of the pistol grip. It is also nice to se any vz.58 go full auto, mine has been butchered to semi only by the law of Czech Republic and European Union.
@richardraffac628
@richardraffac628 2 года назад
Jebať európsku úniu
@joshowen8273
@joshowen8273 2 года назад
the safety selector switch on a semi-auto vz-58 really isn't that bad. Going off of what you said, learning to flick the selector forward into the firing position with your trigger finger is really not very hard and is as quick as any AK or AR in practice. I think Brandon overstates how un-ergonomic it is to use. I have a VZ-58 set up as a defensive rifle and I don't have much to complain about in regards to the safety selector.
@sssummmak
@sssummmak 2 года назад
Should not be that hard to convert it back to full auto no? Isn't the sear spring only thing that is different in semi-auto version?
@bitkarek
@bitkarek 2 года назад
automatika beztak hrozne plejtva penezma ;)
@decimusdecius7858
@decimusdecius7858 2 года назад
@@sssummmak Oh máš to zpátky na full auto? FBI OPEN UP!
@RiecherMistt
@RiecherMistt 2 года назад
Obviously - I’m a czech and I love this rifle, since I own one, but: - the selector is actually quite easy to operate while being righthanded -the muzzle thread is just ok - every single gunsmith around here makes a suppressor or a muzzle break for the VZ.58 -the gun itself is lighter and thinner than any AK platform -I love it -optic mounting is really eazy given the shape of reciever -oh, we have captive pins, yay!
@joshuasterling2144
@joshuasterling2144 2 года назад
Personal opinion it also looks better than an AK..
@PNW_Logan
@PNW_Logan 2 года назад
VZ has the sauce
@kaiserc2471
@kaiserc2471 2 года назад
I hope that if Russia rolls into Europe that they just go around you guys, since you're not little babies that whine all the time.
@garethfuller2700
@garethfuller2700 2 года назад
Semi or Full?
@clittle1559
@clittle1559 2 года назад
@@garethfuller2700 you must work for a 3 letter acronym
@degabreta
@degabreta Год назад
VZ - 58. My weapon in military service in 1982 in Czechoslovakia. Mine was with a folding stock.
@TransistorBased
@TransistorBased Год назад
I'm still blown away that no production AK variants have ended up with BHO. Especially as more American companies are making them, it seems like somebody would have figured out a way to make it work with standard mags or at least have one that catches on AK mags designed for it. It's not the end of the world for target shooting, but I could see that in battle you either count your rounds or just hope your chamber isn't empty.
@genericname8284
@genericname8284 9 месяцев назад
Yugoslavia did make the M70 and M70A with BHO, but they later removed it.
@Danda42
@Danda42 2 года назад
As a Czech, I personaly love this firearm. It´s such a nice piece of history. Also very good video Brandon, hope to see some more Czech guns in a future.
@MichalKolac
@MichalKolac 2 года назад
Přesně tak soudruhu
@vachulak7737
@vachulak7737 2 года назад
@@MichalKolac jako jo :)
@lukaszerocz5371
@lukaszerocz5371 2 года назад
Přesně tak
@joh_nas
@joh_nas 2 года назад
strašně rád bych viděl kulomet uk59
@vachulak7737
@vachulak7737 2 года назад
@@joh_nas univerzální kousadlo ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@vojtechzvonicek5162
@vojtechzvonicek5162 2 года назад
For me as a Czech Republic citizen was the Vz 58 my first rifle and it was almost impossible to buy anything else within 500$ budget. The Vz 58 has something more to it in Czech Republic. Like tradition. It is more than just AK vs Vz58, it is part of the culture and most of gun licence holders who can buy rifles buy the Vz 58. It’s like AR-15 to Americans. I personaly like it, but don’t love it. I like my AR or the Steyr AUG better, but this is very individual. The 7.62x39 is not the best cartridge, that could be the reason. At 300m is easier to hit with .223 than the 7.62x39 so i prefer the .223 over 7.62. Also the price comes to mind, when brass 7.62 cost about 0.75$ and brass .223 cost about 0.50$ per round. With steel cased ammo we currently go little less than 0.50$ for 7.62 so it makes no more sence to fire steel cased chinese ammo from 1952 (not kidding - most of it is really that old). But when the 7.62 costed about 0.15$… good old times… 👍🏻 it is time to move forward and use NATO ammo for less than the old soviet surplus one for higher price. Still have couple thousands of 7.62 rounds, so we can shoot as much we want. Great video, thank you! Greetings from Czech Republic! Btw. if we are able to conceal it, we can carry anything from pistols, rifles, PCCs to shotguns and sniper rifles. I don’t think it’s possible during the summer, but in the winter, you can meet people carrying some crazy stuff.
@oif3vetk9
@oif3vetk9 2 года назад
I have to ask, so, you are able to buy same rifles we Americans do, are able to carry concealed anything you want yet you do not have the same mass shootings we have in the States? Are you also able to buy suppressors? (Anyone else reading, I am not trying to make this political etc. I am merely asking a question on how their system works, what they are able to own and if they have the same problems we do with firearms. I'm not ok with licenses.)
@laigron7884
@laigron7884 2 года назад
@@oif3vetk9 Not 100% percent sure about suppressors but i would think yes we can buy them because i saw add for some 3d titanium silencers in shooting magazine.
@MpSniperM1911
@MpSniperM1911 2 года назад
the last part reminds me of a meme. A czech or slovakian news published an report and in the middle of it there was a quote that might be from someone inside the government saying "shoot the terrorist yourselves" with a fallout new vegas dude with a bright red eye saying "we can't expect god to do all the work"
@r6201sk
@r6201sk 2 года назад
@@oif3vetk9 owning gun here is not common, most people never fired one and don't own one. You also need license that is not just formality to get. You need to be medically checked, pass the test, have clean criminal record, pay.. There are different types of licences (for hunting, sport, collecting, service weapons, ..). If you get licence after 10 years you have medical check too see if you are fit to keep the licence. You can't open carry. So it is not something you just get cause you have free day and nothing better to do :) Also different mentality, culture. Good thing is we don't have any restriction to carry knives (of swords, battle axes, ... :) ).
@decimusdecius7858
@decimusdecius7858 2 года назад
@@oif3vetk9 We had like 3 mass shootings in 30 years? Not that much like USA. But obtaining gun is harder there. Something to read: A gun in the Czech Republic is available to anybody subject to acquiring a firearms license. Gun licenses may be obtained in a way similar to a driving license - by passing a gun proficiency exam, medical examination and having a clean criminal record. Unlike in most other European countries, the Czech gun legislation also permits a citizen to carry a concealed weapon for self-defense - 252,245 out of 308,990 gun license holders have a concealed carry permit (31 December 2021). ... An applicant applies for a gun license at a designated local office of the National police. If the conditions of age, qualification, health clearance, criminal integrity and personal reliability are met and a fee of 700 CZK (US$ 30.52) per type is paid, the license shall be issued in thirty days. ... Obtaining the license requires passing a theoretical and practical exam. ... The law specifies safe storage requirements for those owning more than two weapons or more than 500 rounds of ammunition. Additional safe storage requirements are stipulated for those owning more than 10 and more than 20 firearms. Full wiki article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_Czech_Republic
@BlackWater6937
@BlackWater6937 9 месяцев назад
I own a few AK’s and a VZ. 58 and the fit in finish on the VZ is so much better. The intricate lightening cuts on the receiver are pretty wild that they were doing that in the early 60’s.
@matsman100
@matsman100 Год назад
I Fired one of these while on vacation in Czechia. The model I used seemed to be a bit old and very used, so it had a jamming issue, other then that I was surprised at how much more comfortable it was to shoot than the AKM variant I shot at the same place. The lightness of the rifle and the sight allowed me at least to shoot more accurately than the AKM. So I liked it, but I have to technical inclination on it, only light operational.
@petasekful
@petasekful 2 года назад
As a Czech, who has fired and walked around with this rifle a lot... I can tell you... that its perfect. Fire selector is something to get used to but its actually really easy to go to semi from safe when you learn just a little bit. All in all... thank you, for sharing a little bit of my countries firearm history. Love ya, no homo.
@ironhead2008
@ironhead2008 2 года назад
You guys used them up until recently, right?
@mr.badger4601
@mr.badger4601 2 года назад
@@ironhead2008 we still got some in storage :)
@honzabalak3462
@honzabalak3462 2 года назад
@@ironhead2008 The reserve still uses some.
@ironhead2008
@ironhead2008 2 года назад
@@honzabalak3462 I figured as much. I remember seeing pics of Czech troopers in Afghanistan and Iraq packing VZ-58s. It's kind of funny, not only did Czechoslovakia not adopt the AK, but AFAIK, they were the only country in the Warsaw Pact that didn't adopt 5.45x45!
@perdix99
@perdix99 2 года назад
I have had several of them. They were always incredibly reliable. I had the economy version of the stock - no luxury wood just chipboard and glue (I jest). I built one into a fake 'Gattling type' gun on a tv series to be blown up on a train,. After the explosion everything was ruined except the metal. A quick hose down with hot water and the gun fired perfectly. The falling locking block system is great - Carl Walther was a clever man and the Czechs were bright enough to use his idea. They have been making excellent weapons for years. The famous BREN gun even has its name taken from the two factories Brno and Enfield (UK). Love from the 51st State. xxx
@snarevox
@snarevox 2 года назад
guam?
@perdix99
@perdix99 2 года назад
@@snarevox LOL! Very good! - UK
@janch8444
@janch8444 2 месяца назад
thank you for this show Greetings from the Czech Republic. A lot of people here have it as a backup weapon. They were only $375 (+-) and have been around a lot since the Eastern Bloc days.
@martyn6792
@martyn6792 Год назад
Always enjoy watching these comparison videos, being in UK no chance to have a go although we were shown AK in Army armoury when we were using L1A1
@Y34RZERO
@Y34RZERO 2 года назад
Bolt and piston is like an SKS. I really love to shoot my VZ-58. It's one of my favorites. Mine has beaver barf furniture and the side folding stock. It's one of my top 3 for what I have.
@TheResidentevilfan99
@TheResidentevilfan99 2 года назад
Both an AK & a SKS combined? Instant gun enthusiast boner.
@threesevenslucky5745
@threesevenslucky5745 2 года назад
Almost like if Simonov and Kalashnikov had an odd love child
@user-yk2xb1ti2w
@user-yk2xb1ti2w 2 года назад
Czehoslovaks: Short stroke gas piston, striker fire, vired bolt locking system guess the rifle? Soviets: AVS -36
@AdministrativeResults
@AdministrativeResults 2 года назад
Wow that's one CRAZY AK variant🙈
@craigragain5678
@craigragain5678 2 года назад
I heard that the Russians called it an AK58. Wild huh?
@TheGreekSparten
@TheGreekSparten 2 года назад
Aren't u a battle rifle bussy boy such as myself
@jcgardner5852
@jcgardner5852 2 года назад
More like sks variant
@leef8433
@leef8433 2 года назад
More like Administrative Bitchsults
@someone_03_something
@someone_03_something 2 года назад
Not an ak variant. It was completely new gun,only the design was inspired
@catholicpatriotusa1507
@catholicpatriotusa1507 Год назад
It's also an amazing as an intermediate cartridge rifle in Cali, since you can have the fixed mag and only ever reload it from the striper clips, thus allowing you to have a proper pistol grip
@Tarnished-bn5gq
@Tarnished-bn5gq 6 месяцев назад
What I find the most fascinating thing about AKs and their derivatives and variants is just how varied and different a lot of them are from the original AK-47. They each have a slight or heavy personality to them, much like NATO’s rifle pattern of choice, the AR-15/18.
@ThunderBunny10mm
@ThunderBunny10mm 2 года назад
It’s interesting that the Czechs did their own thing when it came to 7.62x25 with Tokarev vs. CZ52, 9mm Makarov with the Makarov vs. CZ82, and the AKM vs. VZ58. Shows how much former Czechoslovakia were proud of their established arms manufacturers and made weapons housed in Warsaw Pact calibers.
@Sorvin
@Sorvin 2 года назад
also we were not very happy with societ occupation and hate them ever since. Thats why we are doing our things.
@Bacteriophagebs
@Bacteriophagebs 2 года назад
Well, the CZ-52 is superior to the Tokarev, so they got that one right. That said, I still say they just made the VZ-58 because they wanted a better SKS, not a better AK-47. It actually has more in common with the SKS than the AK.
@jamesolbrisch2582
@jamesolbrisch2582 2 года назад
@@Bacteriophagebs and the CZ82 I'd superior to the Makarov too 12 rounds a d an ambi safety before ambi was cool
@Bacteriophagebs
@Bacteriophagebs 2 года назад
@@jamesolbrisch2582 I've never handled either one, so I wouldn't know, but given all the other Czech alternatives to Soviet guns, I don't doubt it in the least.
@MrScar665
@MrScar665 2 года назад
@@jamesolbrisch2582 I have a bit of a crush on 82/83 series
@CondavourTalksGuns
@CondavourTalksGuns 2 года назад
Not gonna lie, the VZ.58 is one of my favorites. A couple things i like that you didnt mention: I like the magazines and they seem to be easier for newer shooters to put in correctly than the AKMs. The lightweight but still milled receiver is a big plus to me, less mass hurts rapid fire control but makes it more pleasant to carry. The muzzle threading is weird but there are a couple good brakes that are i believe of slovakian style that definitely help with the muzzle jump. That being said there is almost no support for 14x1.0RH and so you are either stuck with VZ.58 specific devices or an ugly adapter. I had to get a keymo muzzle device custom made for suppressing mine. Comparing it to a KNS tuned AK, the AK is both heavier and if tuned right loses almost all jolt from bolt carrier group hitting end of travel. I'm sure you could make the VZ58 shoot a lot softer if you started with a virgin barrel and slowly increased gas port size, but they are in the same camp of "designed a little overgassed" as the normal AKMs, M4s, etc. Oh that's right, in my experience they suppress quite well, dont seem to be overly effected by the increased backpressure but will not cycle subsonic 7.62x39. Also reloading from stripper clips is a lot of fun, so thats a plus. That bayonet lug also doubles as a bipod attachment point for the simple yet effective bipod they issued with the "night vision equipped" models that also had a side rail for one of those giant NV scopes. I own two VZ.58s and six AK variants AKM/RPK/74 and shoot them all :)
@literallydalegribble3875
@literallydalegribble3875 2 года назад
Yo, love the content Condom
@CondavourTalksGuns
@CondavourTalksGuns 2 года назад
@@literallydalegribble3875 :D
@literallydalegribble3875
@literallydalegribble3875 2 года назад
@@CondavourTalksGuns :0
@yankusss95
@yankusss95 2 года назад
@@literallydalegribble3875 :|
@CondavourTalksGuns
@CondavourTalksGuns 2 года назад
@@yankusss95 ;)
@janvysata7758
@janvysata7758 Год назад
Dont forget about reliability and sturdiness. Milled steel contra ak sheet metal 😁. Vz is a Great carbine for hidden carrying with foldstock and underbarrel grip, suited for close quarter fighting. But to be honest a have only a semi auto version and i am proud we revolted against CCCP at least in this way
@McGregor_1969
@McGregor_1969 4 месяца назад
The VZ58 was popular here in Northern Ireland, used by "Loyalist" / "Unionist" / "Protestant Paramilitaries. They imported 300 of them in 1988. This Assault Rifle is iconic in "Ulster". There are many videos or photos on Google showing Loyalist gunmen, firing them.
@GiarcraiGO
@GiarcraiGO 2 года назад
Canadian here with correction. At 13:41 he said you can't do a speed reload. You can do a speed reload, if you use a beer-can-grip to hold your magazine and keep your thumb out, away from the magazine in your hand. Your thumb activates the magazine release and knocks out the empty mag in a single motion. This doesn't allow for magazine retention, but gets the mag-well free for the reload being held in the beer-can-grip. You're welcome.
@Asghaad
@Asghaad 2 года назад
or you can get ambidextrous mag release and push the release with teh trigger finger while slapping the mag with the new one and then you can add bolt release again operated by trigger finger. makes reloads almost as fast as on AR
@GenZcollector
@GenZcollector 2 года назад
Ahh the Czechs, one of the most underrated firearms designers in Europe. Thanks for the VZ.58 you absolute Legends!! (Thanks for the Vz.24 as well ❤️)
@stuik13
@stuik13 2 года назад
Thanks mate, check also Uk vz 59 machine gun :)
@mrdictator7030
@mrdictator7030 2 года назад
I would not say they r underrated, CZ did just buy Colt
@EthosAtheos
@EthosAtheos 2 года назад
@@mrdictator7030 That would be because American gun manufacturers are run by bankers and investment firms.
@SlarmCZ
@SlarmCZ 2 года назад
You are welcome
@Trojanarchist
@Trojanarchist 2 года назад
the Vz.24 helped us loads in the consitutional revolution in Iran and we still have tons of them laying around. Awesome guns
@benbeals8479
@benbeals8479 Год назад
While I have handled one I have never had the chance to shoot one. Ironically the thing you hate the most, the selector lever location, was what caught drew my attention to the VZ-58 in the first place. Being a left handed shooter I figured it might be just right for me. Alas I didn't have the funds to make the VZ-58 I examined my own so I can't say if the selector lever location would have worked out for me or not.
@ArcticWipeout
@ArcticWipeout Год назад
I wanna see this thing in more video games! It's one of my favourite weapons and is severely underrepresented. Plus 800rpm of 7.62x39 sounds crazy powerful in a video game. But as far as real life goes, both the AKM and VZ.58 have pros and cons and I honestly can't pick one. The last round hold open on the VZ is neat though.
@stevebean9210
@stevebean9210 2 года назад
I have shot and own a vz58. One of my favorite rifles. The history of Czechs making their own designs like the vz52 instead of the sks is really cool to me.
@TheVenCBR
@TheVenCBR 2 года назад
This was the "Canadian AK" until Dear Leader decided they were too scary. F to our rapidly diminishing firearms. Edit: to be clear, we had the semi-auto version. No fun allowed in Canada, just less fun allowed nowadays. RIP.
@wealthybone2990
@wealthybone2990 2 года назад
Buy why? I mean technically they can but do you even need an full auto rifle? Semi is more accurate anyways.
@andreivaldez2929
@andreivaldez2929 2 года назад
He's talking about the semiauto one that was available to regular people.
@RustyShackleford556
@RustyShackleford556 2 года назад
@@wealthybone2990 Fully automatic weapons are very useful for fighting. Short bursts of fully automatic fire greatly increase hit probability in a firefight. Standard infantry rifles have fully automatic capabilities both because of this and the fact that it allows any one man with a rifle to perform the role of squad automatic gunner and provide suppressing fire to support his or her squadmates.
@TheVenCBR
@TheVenCBR 2 года назад
@@andreivaldez2929 yeah I should've clarified. We don't get any full auto toys here.
@phoenixmastm
@phoenixmastm 2 года назад
@@wealthybone2990 They arent allowed full auto in the first place, he's talking about the fact that Trudeau banned ALL assault rifle platforms, semi or full. Pretty sure he's also going after the semi auto sporting rifles too.
@petrpischnoth4919
@petrpischnoth4919 Год назад
Hi from Czech republic! I spended a lot of time with this gun, when I was in army.. VZ. is shortcut of word vzor, means model in czech. 58 is year of invite. I had a model with folable butt and that "wood" parts was made from some kind of hard plastic.. 🙂
@kamilfingr371
@kamilfingr371 Год назад
No mám pocit, že se "pádlo" dělalo z dřevotřísky nebo něčeho podobného. Možná později ho dělali z plastiku.
@petrpischnoth4919
@petrpischnoth4919 Год назад
@@kamilfingr371 jj, byla to nějaké třísky v epoxidu, či co..
@romanhejhal8917
@romanhejhal8917 Год назад
@@petrpischnoth4919 bakelit
@danh6720
@danh6720 3 месяца назад
In English we nicknamed those plastic parts with wood in them "beaver vomit".
@klaun62
@klaun62 Год назад
Na tohle video nemusím koukat abych věděl, že Vz 58 je jednoznačně lepší než Ak 47.
@doejohn8674
@doejohn8674 2 года назад
If you wanted to be fair in comparing the recoil between the two, you should have removed the highly efficient muzzle brake from the AK ;) The Czechoslovaks never really appreciated executing orders from Moscow, so when the Soviets only imposed the caliber 7.62x39 for their assault rifle, they chose to develop a rifle where everything was different from the AKM, except for the caliber, obey the orders, but not an inch more. That's why even the thread pitch is the other way around.
@Milner62
@Milner62 2 года назад
Yep the Czechs hated Russian occupation so the pushed back where possible which is why they used the VZ58 in place of the AK-47. Same with hand guns the Czechs used their CZ52 pistol over the Russian design and why they used the superior CZ82 Pistol over the Russian Makarov pistol.
@clothar23
@clothar23 2 года назад
@@Milner62 Hate them or not it seems stupid to sabotage any sort of compatibley between you and the only military support you'd receive in the event of war. Since lets be honest the West does give a damn about anything further east than Germany. But hey I hear dead civilians and burning buildings are fashionable.
@Milner62
@Milner62 2 года назад
@@clothar23 , not sabotaging them seeing as the weapons were used by the Czechs and they were building them as well. Not to mention the Czechs went up against the Russians numerous times to remove the invaders.
@clothar23
@clothar23 2 года назад
@@Milner62 I am sorry how is building a rifle that can not be serviced by Soviet logistical support in any way not sabotaging your chances in a war against NATO forces. The thing can't even take AK mags. Any spare parts and maintenance would have to be done in country. Which considering Czechoslovakia was closer to the NATO forces stationed in West Germany than Russia was seems sketchy ya dig. I mean it's a totally good idea to have your military industrial complex on the frontlines of a land war against a superior enemy. That logic worked out well for Germany in the 1940s after all.
@Milner62
@Milner62 2 года назад
@@clothar23, cause soviet logistical support was not a thing in this case. If the soviets were providing support in that sense then they would be making the guns and giving the guns to these countries not having them make them themselves. There were also more than one country that was under russian control that wanted their occupiers out and they still were tasked with building the equipment no different than any other territory. You are reading too far into it thinking that russia was going to supply parts, why would russia supply parts when they are having each country make the firearms in the first place.
@samjones1778
@samjones1778 2 года назад
I remember being a small boy looking at a VZ thinking I was seeing an AK in all of it’s glory.
@kibicz
@kibicz Год назад
9 hole review just did accuracy test up to 500 yards and it did just great.
@shoteRmsi
@shoteRmsi Год назад
Im in Czech reserves and we still uses Vzs. And i cant complain, of course i hate i cant use fore grip or any reflex sights. But after all it's very necessery. Its very cool and reliable gun when it comes to dirt or field cleaning. Bur unfortunatly i cant compare it with the actual AK in this conditions but i belive its gonna be very similiar.
@hovno342
@hovno342 2 года назад
As a Czech man, you made me feel proud. Thank you for featuring the VZ-58, hope you liked it.
@GR4MPI
@GR4MPI 2 года назад
Čau 😂
@georgerichards5369
@georgerichards5369 2 года назад
I always thought of the VZ-58 being kind of like a hybrid between the AK-47 and the SKS due the ability to load it through the top as well as having a large detachable magazine.
@Bacteriophagebs
@Bacteriophagebs 2 года назад
Also the exposed bolt carrier and short-stroke piston. I totally agree. Mechanically, the VZ-58 has more in common with the SKS/VZ-52 than with the AK. It just _looks_ more like an AK.
@thatoneconcreteworker9202
@thatoneconcreteworker9202 2 года назад
Look Up the Type 81 that thing is literally a full auto SKS AK hybrid. Made by China.
@smolkafilip
@smolkafilip 2 года назад
I may be wrong about this but I think that the point of the stripper clip feature was not reloading like that in combat, these were issued with multiple mags and reloading by swapping mags was how people were trained. The idea was that during down time when you are refilling your mags, your combat ammo re-supply came in stripper clips, so you inserted an empty mag, locked your bolt to the rear and used your gun as a mag loader.
@JanChvojka
@JanChvojka Год назад
I as a left handed was wery satisfied with selector possition. I like that i was wearing les weight in duty. It was my personal weapon as squad commander in mechanized infantry
@nealgold8442
@nealgold8442 9 месяцев назад
Great video and very informative.
@oi4751
@oi4751 2 года назад
13:16 I'm so glad you mentioned the fact that it can be topped off with stripper clips. Had no idea this was even a feature until I was doing some research before I got my own. I find that SKS stripper clips work just fine. Great video!
@libak3
@libak3 2 года назад
Well you did not make a lot of new Czech fans with this video I can tell you that. But seriously, it is an awesome gun. This gun really was something like middlefinger to USSR in that time, more that anything else. And actually was used in many conflicts and millitaries over the world, just patented, so nobody could copy it and make for themselves (not being better than AK was not the reason)
@DreddPirateRoberts
@DreddPirateRoberts Год назад
I've always loved the look of the Vz-58. Really want to get my hands on one.
@gordtron
@gordtron 3 месяца назад
i really like that they can be reloaded with stripper clips, the unique grey paint and beaver barf furniture, with 800rpm if you're lucky enough to have full auto.
@nf1
@nf1 2 года назад
From the testing I've seen the vz-58 is actually significantly more accurate than any ak variation. Like 1moa vs 4moa. 9 hole reviews did a good test on this
@charisperissos1320
@charisperissos1320 2 года назад
Rob ski found similar results
@ChrisHuppey
@ChrisHuppey 2 года назад
Short piston vs long piston? Edit: add dwell time too.
@LanceDStone
@LanceDStone 2 года назад
The issue is all US guns have other than "mil-spec" if you will barrel. To my knowledge all US VZ 58 variants were build with a new barrel. Military surplus that is quite popular and available to Czech shooters has usually similar results to AK.
@rianmach9043
@rianmach9043 2 года назад
Many AK’s have better than 4MOA accuracy
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 2 года назад
@@rianmach9043 some have worse. They are roughly as accurate as a vintage mini 30.
@pointly
@pointly 2 года назад
There is a lot of modern accessories for the Vz.58. It's a sweet rifle and a fun way to show off gun knowledge to others. I'd love to own one but they are far more rare than 5 years ago. Personally, I like that wire folding stock and that bakelite stock over the wood or modern plastics. The Czech Army used the rifle for years after the USSR collapsed and I've heard their replacement for it doesn't compare to the reliability of the Vz.58
@B.U.K.O.
@B.U.K.O. 2 года назад
Slovak army uses this rifle still, in this basic verzion used by recruits and new soldiers, in upgraded versions with optics by regular soldiers. It's very reliable and cotrolable gun if you know it well.
@martus606cz5
@martus606cz5 2 года назад
Just go to czech republic and buy one we have plenty here and even the modernized versions but those ones are special so not much of em
@michalbouska599
@michalbouska599 Год назад
CZ BREN 2 (and even CZ 805 BREN after getting rid off those child diseases) is really a step miles forward from vz.58.
@DYLANJJK94
@DYLANJJK94 Год назад
There is something about AKs and VZs that just look make them look cool with a wire folding stock, but I can’t see it like that for any 5.56 rifle. But I never shot either rifle type.
@matthewlewis-zw3tf
@matthewlewis-zw3tf 6 месяцев назад
Great review. I love the content.
@RA36912
@RA36912 4 месяца назад
Got one in my safe and absolutely love it. I'm gonna re-engineer it , with some goodies
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