From an EX prisoner "This brought a tear to my eye" Time for the wall TO BE REMOVED and let the young ones life be free from what we went through... IT's Over !
Def isn't over. I moved out of west Belfast because of it. That and the huge drug and alcohol problem and crime. I wouldn't take a house is west Belfast for free in 2020 its away to fuck
@@savedandblessed79 My friend the "Whole World" is away ta fuck at the min" remember NOTHING else truly matters apart from your loved ones... The drugs & gangs have always been there that's how they make a wage remember... Peace :)..."
I did a six month tour in Belfast in 94 and seeing how far things have come since then i truly beleve that it is time for the walls to come down , give the kids a chance to make an even better tomorrow .
No. It won’t work, ffs they are petrol bombing loyalist houses in Ardoyne and that’s WITHOUT a wall. The wall can’t come down until there is 0 attacks and we get along better
I also served in Belfast in 1992 for 6 months ' after spending my time there and having family from both sides of the community I don't think they can mix and forget the past ' it's in there history unfortunately
Hearing young leah saying she doesn't think the wall will ever come down because people still have the conflict in there heads is so true! And it's that reason alone why they will never come down anytime soon because young kids are being brain 🧠 washed in homes the length and bredth of the country I.e its just carrying on from generation to generation it will ultimately take more cross community relationships to break that cycle I had a wee smile on my face when she said she is going with a protestant her smile and reaction said it all when she said they met at the age of 8 years old! I hope they are still together to this day and go on to have a happy life together ❤️
It's been one year since I visited this lovely city with some of the nicest people I have ever encountered and I have traveled all over the world. I will come back again after COVID. From my vantage point as an American I can not tell you if the people I met, and I met many, were Catholic or Protestant and they didn't seem to care what I was other than they knew right away that I was an American. No, you won't convince me that this city is not beautiful or that it doesn't have some of the friendliest people in the world. PS - I was raised Roman Catholic and to my knowledge I don't have any Irish ancestors.
mother was irish, born in derry, moved to england to live, had us kids, and ALWAYS took us to her home every year. beautiful country, beautiful people, beautiful pace to be. best times of my life spent there. only now, 50 years after it became part of my life, am i starting to realise what really went on. @seanmurraytv this was a beautiful film, full of beautiful people, with nothing but beautiful words spoken beautifully. may the lord in his wisdom, any lord from any faith grant everlasting peace and bring down those barriers to peaceful harmony. thank you sean.
@@anniegrath1417 Love how you conveniently don't mention the fact that it is called LONDONderry. I don't WANT to call it that, that's what it's called.
My Grandfather was born on Milewater Street but his family was from Derry. A few of his brothers were IRA. He married my Grandmother who was from Co Down and Protestant. To say my mum grew up conflicted would be an understatement. She left Ireland in 1963.
My patriarchal ancestors are from County down and they left in 1870. I always wonder if they hadn’t would they have been stuck in the middle of this and it makes me sad for everybody there.
@@LauraSnow-in3nx It was a hard time for sure, but my mum grew up in Bangor Co Down and most of the neighborhoods were split between Protestant and Catholic and definitely didn't mix. My mum had a catholic dad and a Protestant mum, the equivalent of a mixed marriage in the South during the 60's in the states, so you can only imagine. I have a lot of family still there including, a brother, sister, cousins, aunts and uncles. Times have changed and everyone gets along. Change can happen but sometimes it takes a lot of pain.
“A person is, among all else, a material thing, easily torn and not easily mended.” “It wasn't only wickedness and scheming that made people unhappy, it was confusion and misunderstanding; above all, it was the failure to grasp the simple truth that other people are as real as you.”
I am turning 50 who.moved from Scotland to believe in the cause but am so glad now that our young folk are changing my kids no.nothing of the old days unless they ask let's move on 🇬🇧🇮🇪🇬🇧🇮🇪🇬🇧🇮🇪
@Paul Simpson thing is we ain't Ireland mate we are northern Ireland and think it should stay that way and just get along instead of all the bull shit my kids havnt a clue about all the religious stuff I keep the away from it my oldest kid friends are Catholic and enjoy coming to my house and having a laugh and vice versa with ther families
@Paul Simpson you as an English man did nothing wrong! We can't change the past! But we can paint a much better future for the kids! Only worry about what you've done, not what other have! 👌
This is so sad, a tragedy... I think most people ( especially here in the U.S.) have no idea about this. Not only that's it's still this way, but at all.
@@pollixo5701 As a stranger to this city, I found the people to be amazingly friendly. You should not expect this level of friendliness in other major cities, like New York. The city was clean, the sites were interesting, the the pubs drinks were fantastic; ditto for the food. I'm not Irish, I'm not Protestant, and I stayed there a short period of time but from that wonderful experience - I have decided that I would like to return to spend more time.
@@opadennis yeah, because you were a tourist, of course it was wonderful, you weren't going out your way to visit the hard done by, you were walking through the nice glitzy fashionable tourist targeted areas that are more Disneyland than Ireland.
Great video ive visited belfast and other towns awesome people and its great to see that the younger generations just want to live their lifes in peace and without hate and conflict i wish them all the very best in the future
I'm a 45 year old from Canada and although I knew a bit about The Troubles, I didn't know about the walls of Belfast, until recently. It reminds me of the Berlin Wall.
Fantastic job! My father was murdered by UDA death squads in 1993 and my heart goes out to all innocent victims who were murdered by terrorists. This documentary was excellent and I am making a documentary about how both communities suffered. The leadership of this country was the main problem and built in segregation but it's been removed in my opinion. Through reconciliation and understanding eacthother. My girlfriend is from Ballysillan and I'm not a bitter person but a better person.
I do not want put blame on either side but it is my dearest wish that the upcoming generations will never know the pain and divisions of what came before. Don't see protestants or Catholics, just people.
Ive lived here 6 months now. What a beautiful place and beautiful People. Your history deeply touches my polish heart. Greetings from Glengormley. ThankYou.
I'm from Belfast. If you're also from Belfast, write to your local mp, and ask why the housing executive has phone numbers on which they can call paramilitary groups to verify whether intimidation faced by a person was real. These groups are normalised in our society. Its mental. Ask why there is no record kept about which group has made how many threats. These threats, to be burnt out of your home, still go on. The only reason a house hasn't been burnt out is people heed the warning, pack up and move. This now happens almost solely from loyalist paramilitaries. Against Catholics but also racial minorities. It's being denied, understated, and not investigated. Use the freedom of information act to ask the housing executive how many instances of intimidation happened last year across the 6 counties. When they tell you they don't know, ask why it isn't collated? We need new laws. Anyone caught throwing a petrol bomb at another person's house should be done for attempted murder by default. Anyone throwing bricks at another person's house should receive a heavier sentence than just vandalism. It's wilful intimidation. It causes trauma. It's not the same as kids vandalising eg a disused factory.
This is a fantastic doc with a very important message. Thank you for being the change we need to see in this Provence. I would implore every teacher to show this to their classroom, the future of this country lies in education.
Mine is a similar experience to this, except coming from the Ardoyne / Woodvale. I had a Grandfather in the IRA, at the formation of the state, and his father-in-law, my great grandfather, a prominent Orangeman.
Beautiful people on both sides of the divide, being stuck in the middle, 9 tours worth, you are being HELD back by your dinosaurs, who are now in their 60s/ 70s. From an English paratrooper/ BRIT BASTARD! We’re all HUMAN, act it! Brilliant documentary. Thank you, over thirty years ago since y was last there. Mochara
9:40 100% right! I used to work with a few protestants and they totally changed around July time,about August-September they came round again,I called it the billy blues lol I don't think the walls will ever come down as bitterness will always stem for the 12th of July, growing up in West Belfast during the troubles was crazy, well ballymurphy was anyway but I wouldn't change it for the world. 🕊🇮🇪🤝🇬🇧🕊
I’ve crossed this gate/wall at least every week from I’ve been 15, the gates hold so many memories for me. I had to drive through them to get to the royal Maternity hospital twice to pick up my wife and newborn babies and another 2 times when my missus unfortunately had two still borns. I had to cross these gates to go to Springfield tech where I learned how to be a welder, I had to cross these gates when I worked in Conway mill. I crossed these gates to meet a girl I went with when I was 17. I crossed these gates when I run the Belfast marathon twice. You speak to my granda or uncles these walls hold so many bad memories for them I.e rioting or one having his house burnt down just off larnick way. For me being from ballysillan and having this wall and gate in my life it has become normal to see, I don’t think now that when I drive through I’m going to the other side where there may be people who don’t like me for what I am. I’d love the walls to come crashing down and both sides to get on with each other.
Myself coming from Australia I know that the troubles have done so much hurt on both sides iam a protestant but I do strongly believe that the British government should be out of Ireland completely regards to you all from me in Australia.
It was Catholics that brought the British soldiers here not protestants then they turned on them buy setting them up with girls to met soldiers so they could kill them ,sandwiches had class put in them so the soldiers would be cut up inside I could go on I was brought up right through it all I have catholic friends and sometimes it can get hairy as they would make comments like ur man said poor catholics well some poor catholic set my uncle up and took him away to be shot but butchered before that he was not in anything just a hard working man in the yard who looked after his mum after my uncle came outta the 2ed world war he was a desert rat 8th army he went through a world war to be shot by his own friends son and friends were is it that protestants say poor protestants I'd love to see us unite but not as United ireland let us just forget the past and carry on sadly ppl on both sides will never agree
Thank you for the very informative video. We recently visited Belfast, and many of us in the US did not realize there was a Wall. Belfast seemed vibrant and peaceful. However some of the people we talked with weren’t ready for the Wall to come down. Helpful hint: consider adding subtitles for those of us who only understand American accents.
My mum works right on the wall, at a school. When I go there there is always arguing and to this day, I’m not aloud to go outside. It scary if you ever go near there
Aye a lot of young teenagers just attention seeking little bastards pretending to be depressed and haven’t went through what other people have gone through and all the people who are depressed you don’t hear a peep out of
EAT DON /Éatan well if doctors are telling you if you have it that’s not attention seeking if that what ur trying to say and I’m not sure or not but some people don’t feel sad they just are tired and lose motivation to do stuff I’m not sure but exercise is the best thing to do it makes you feel great about yourself
Thanks for your service and its sad that it's all been in vain. Peace never was achieved, Unionist traditions are trampled on and you lads the brave vetrans is being witch hunted while IRA terrorists walk free and even hold positions of political power.
@@ulsterinfidel9897 Nobody is trampling on your traditions apart from yourselves and uvf drugs. Fyi the British government has always had a policy of negotiating with the IRA the fact Gerry Kelly is now in charge of policing is remarkable in terms of peace building. Northern Ireland is a shared society with dual governence in stormont if you don't like that then move to the "mainland" but you might even find a lot of Irish over there and an Indian pm so you might not like it and might prefer Ireland. 😆
I am glad some sort of normality has come although it is not perfect. The violence today in NI although it is political is less than that of London or even Dublin.
as im apart of the younger generation, i do hope that the walls will come down, not now obviously as loads of people are still living in the troubles. i believe that maybe in our great grandchildrens lives the walls wont be up. ive been on both sides of the walls with my drama group, east meets west. at the end of the day we're all human, no matter of skin colour, political views, religion.
Being from England I will never fully understand but it shocks me that the issues of the troubles still exist not at bad as the 70s of course but still
I think it will take decades to end. As NI children we learn about catholics and prods at a very early age where we don’t even understand what it means. As young children we just hated each other without even knowing the history behind it. Some people live with that hate forever but some people like me understand the history of Northern Ireland as we get older and see each other as equal
@7:54 I understand where Sams coming from and respect him for trying to bridge the divide 100% But that wee bit that he remembers people saying “the fenians are coming, they’re coming to burn us out”. That’s just a wee untruth that Protestants throw in to try and justify what they done. I mean it was them that burnt us out not the other way round.. Every single sectarian thing the loyalists did throughout the troubles, they always said it was the catholic’s fault... It’s very hard to find an honestly truthful & remorseful Loyalist..
And you are a perfect example of the.. "us poor wee catholics never did a thing wrong, it was all those nasty prods fault" syndrome. Your own bigotry blinds you.
@@gazzanorth4373 Gaza, that isn’t true at all. I know perfectly well and I acknowledge that Republicans committed atrocities. I never agreed with some of the tactics used by Republicans and I also thought that some operations were very poorly planned and carried out, resulting in civilian casualties.. I admit that and I’m truly sorry they happened but I’ve yet to meet a Loyalist with the same attitude..
@@JohnMcMahon. And I have never met a single republican that has shown one ounce of remorse for unleashing an indiscriminate terror campaign against their unionist neighbours in order to try and force them into a united Ireland. Not one.
Tanx for the video. Those responsible for council estates against council estates against each other have a lot to answer for common man against each other what a cancer the law of karma will come back to haunt them for imposing that on innocent kids.🔑🤝🙏🏻
If it was up to the younger generation then there would be no wall, no divisions, no British occupation and respect for each other’s cultures. But then again, if it was up to the younger generation we wouldn’t have people like Boris and Trump in power, we can only wait and hope for change without resentment.
Without this "british occupation" our British rights, traditions and culture will be erased in brutal forms. Wee bit of advice from a loyalist free off charge, if you want to act like you want everyone to respect eachother and try and heal the wounds of the past you wouldnt be using words like British occupation as that is a aggressive attack on Unionists in general and it reveals what's under your mask, nothing more than a pure breed republican scum. In my eyes there will be no respect until one of the side's is completely removed from NORTHERN IRELAND.
Ulster Infidel you talk about respect and preserving your ‘culture’ then say you want an entire side ‘wiped out’, doesn’t add up. Ireland is under British occupation, that’s a fact and will that will change. I’m not a ‘pure breed’ republican, I come from a mixed family who are able to respect each other, unlike ‘pure breed’ loyalist families who pass on their delusions. British culture will always exist in Britain where it belongs.
These walls will only come down when people who live on either side of them feel safe and comfortable living side by side each other. Its easy for people to say take them down theres peace now , if your not from the area that these walls stand around then you wont understand that its not as easy as removing walls and everything will be okay, time is a great healer and when the time is right the walls will be taking down but if you rush into things the conflict between the two sides could reach the point where theres trouble in northern ireland again and all the hard work over the past 20 years will be for nothing.
Good documentary, not much us/them politicking. As one born and bred on the other side of the wall I share the desire for us all to live together in harmony. The only realistic solution is an independent Ulster in which Ulster-British and Ulster-Irish can both feel at home and prosper. In the long term gov.uk will not do what it takes to protect Ulster and gov.ie only pays lip service to a united ireland when it needs the green vote. No, gov.ie cannot and will not ever risk disrupting the ROI economy by taking on 1,000,000 angry Ulster-British. Let us bury the hatchet and make Ulster the greatest nation state on the island of ireland once again.
I live in Belfast but am not protestant or catholic, nationalist or unionist. I can't stand the divide but it's never going to change without education and a change of attitude, which is unlikely.
@@adrianoromanoski it's not very noticeable for tourists, but for people living here it's obvious the segregation between people, but it's getting better!
@@cameronsmiley4233 do you think there will be a reunion soon? Im writing currently a scientific work and I read that there will be a catholic majority in near future
This video was posted 2 years ago, there was troubles again at the peace wall about 4 months ago, the walls will never come down. it’s always gonna be a rivalry between the 2 communities
We have been here in Ireland for 100s of years we are a people and ethnic group that came into existence on this land and although we must respect the Irish we must fight for our right to exist. In a united island we would be subject to the will of the majority and be without our own state. The Republic of Ireland already exists, trying to force us to join them is like England trying to make Scotland part of England due to the anglo saxons that live in the lowlands
It's true that the Irish where here first but they replaced the neolithic population who in turn replaced the WHG population. No Northwestern European people are indigenous
The Irish free state ethnically cleansed the Protestants from 20% to 2% and are in denial that a large part of the population, though catholic, is from British ancestry. Ulster Protestants must not surrender- their nationality, culture, religion and identity. I’m glad to see the 12th keeps getting bigger.
@Marcus McGee As for my name we aren't sure how far back it goes if my paternal ancestor just adopted an Irish name or was Irish himself, probably was Irish convert to Protestantism. I have distant Irish ancestry on my mothers side also from a great great grandmother. I am proud of both my Irish and British ancestry, but I don't want to see my ethnic group without a country of our own as I believe it would lead to the eventual dissolution of us as a people and culture.
Starting soon another episode of Irish History !!!Makes me sad.!!! Don't let these Bigots on both sides ruin your future...Turn away from the flag waving parties it's our only hope.....Love from the South...
You know, I was hoping to see my own, they mentioned Springfield Rd. but then again I wonder if I'd recognize it, it's been 40 years since I've been there
My grandad was Irish my grandmother was native American, my grandma's people use to call my grandad Bare Arse Murphy because when he drank he use to take his clothes off and run around shouting, I loved them both and have great memories of my family, my name is Tanto Murphy.
I lived in Belfast for 16 years from the mid 1990s to 2012. Mainly on the Lisburn Road and Ormeau areas, not far from Queen's University. I have some great memories of nights out in Laverys, the Errigle Bar, Bar Twelve off Botanic Avenue and the pub on the top of Ashley Avenue, the name of which I forget. I actually met the late great snooker player Alex Higgins one night in Dukes Hotel bar. I got some flack from both sides because of my Free State accent. Thankfully I was never beaten up or anything like that. There was an absolutely terrific Indian take-way on the Ormeau. How I miss their garlic nan bread.
Very interesting . I happily drive between the two places and know people from all denominations in west Belfast but because I’m English no one cares..I guess I’m afforded neutrality...People want change especially now with corruptionvirus, people are scared of speaking out . I bet if you asked everyone individually they’d all want the walls down but a few would say no because of what their neighbours might say..
ireland will never be the same again. belfast will forever be divided, take the politics out of it and there is still so much hate towards each other it will always be catholics vs protestants, the unspeakable actions that took place there has left the country scarred and nothing will change. i wouldnt take the wall down, i wouldnt like to see what happens after.
What a brilliant film Sean. Very touching. I only found it because I just uploaded my own film about the West Belfast Peace Line, but this film is amazing - check out my own film if you get a chance, though it's a more amateur affair!
Nothing good ever comes from being divided by a wall. It is a lot better if people and communities could live alongside one another and put their differences aside. Although things have improved there is still a lot of hatred and bigotry in Northern Ireland. I hope that this generation of young people will bring an end to that in Northern Ireland. and bring peace, hope and reconciliation in NI in the future.
I've always known about this God awful wall but the part with the 2nd guy when he was asked if he ever been on the other side... is that a thing? I figured it was a barrier and the gates closed at like 10 but I didn't know that they can't even go over there at all really. My family came to America in the 40s my grandmother came from Wales and grandfather somewhere in Ireland they didn't talk much so not even sure if they meet here or there but if this wall is ever having direct action taken against it to be torn down well call me the Yankee Gorbachev cause I will be there to tear down that wall. This sickens me that no one seems to talk about it or care and that America chooses to ignore it because England is such good friends. Sad.
where are the voices of the young born free of Belfast? Not free of the traditional struggle union or republic, but free of the troubles. As an outsider looking in I'd say Shankhill or Falls I think the youth have more in common now then ever.
