The War Within Review: This Is The Warcraft We’ve Been Missing 

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*10 months into the expansion:* Where Did The War Within Go Wrong

Pretty sure you made these exact same proclamations before Shadowlands and Dragonflight released too.

"0 spoilers video" -> "dalaran crashes into the ground" ok...

"Spoiler Safe Audio" Proceeds to pretty much tell the story of each zone. Nice dude...

I have no issue slowing my leveling speed for "stay awhile and listen" moments and other forms of narrative absorption. I just don't want to do it for every alt. If there's no option to skip the level up story then I expect it will have to be too fast to be memorable.

For those asking about the quest giver addon I have found it. It's called Dialogue UI

I'm ready to bet money that you've made a video with a title like this for every expansion since you started doing WoW news

"This is a guaranteed completely spoiler free video" -> Goes on churning out 18 minutes of non stop spoilers.

I love how every time an expansion is about to be released, lots of RU-vid videos claiming that "WoW is back" are there to give us hope 🙂

You made it 3:32 minutes before you dropped spoilers in your spoiler free video. Thanks a lot.

Dalaran being destroyed is a massive spoiler even if it's right at the beginning of the expansion...

The Warcraft I've been missing lies within the class order halls.

Promises no spoilers, then posts the full text scroll of what happens to Anduin lmao

I just hope that they won't have 8 yrs old in mind when they do the story script and also the voice acting. Fyrakk apart, Dragonflight story was like a disney princess movie.

Warcraft is the feeling of scope. Being a small figure exploring an expansive rich world. The sheer size of Eastern Kingdoms, with one load screen being able to run through connected rainforests, plains, different cultures and cities, dangerous threats, and fun quests that bring the world to life. Having activities, dailies, professions, and options that made it feel worthwhile revisiting these far flung places at max level, like Booty Bay, Southshore, and Gadgetzan.

Man, these titles makes my eyes roll automagically.

Bellular : No spoilers ! Also Bell: DALARAN HAS BEEN DESTROYED !

thumbnail be like, "Spoiler Free!" and then video basically starts by saying, "Dalaran has been destroyed". I literally paused video here and had a wtf moment.

the quest that still sticks with me is the badlands: the day that deathwing came

Huh, I feel like that titles been used on every expansion post warlords.

I want more long quests for epic rewards, like legendary crafting or like Shadowmourne style quests to get something. I really enjoyed Dragonflight, more than most expansions in a long time.

It’s a great return to form, only downside is that this saga seems to be missing the Horde. It doesn’t help that all the good Horde characters have been killed off without building up new good replacements.

If I listened to influencers, then I wouldn’t play any game. They binge play the game while bitching about it the whole time.

No spoilers Clips of TWW in the background

After playing mop remix then hopping into the beta, you cant compare the zones, quest, lore, music and the overal size. Mop is just on a whole different level, its not even close.

The quest for Verigan's Fist in Vanilla was peak for me. Original Death Knight intro was another peak example. Class specific quests, like the Vanilla Warlock demon and mount quests are also noteworthy. So basically things that add depth to your character.

They would have gotten me back if your characters in your Warband could be a part of your group for Dungeons/Raids. i.e. like Guild Wars' Hero Sidekicks.

Really interesting stuff, and thanks for the non-spoiler setup. I was listening while doing chores, and not being afraid to run to the PC and skip it, or stop it 😅

A big space alien stabbing the planet: "That is what warcraft is"... That's just silly. It is one of the silliest images in WoW, and is very far removed from anything else that happens in the rest of the story or the game. That is related to titan lore and big cosmology stuff, which has been warcraft's mythology, but it hasn't been the game. World of warcraft was always about the larger than life characters and the conflicts. Epic moments like Wrathgate, the bombing of Theramore, the purge of Dalaran, the siege of Orgrimmar, the burning of Teldrassil, the battle for lordaeron... It would be kind of like if Game of Thrones suddenly had the drowned god coming to fight the night king, and then someone praising it as being what Game of Thrones was always about. Blizzard has really given into the part of the fandom that is more interested in the mythology and cosmology than their characters and the kind of stories that created emotional stories.

As a Horde player i see very little to get exited about in this exp pack. What quest i felt was warcraft in the past? When the Horde army was arriving in Pandaria that was peak warcraft in my opinion.

"If you didn't like Shadowbringers (very enjoyable story telling, great cutscenes, fantastic expansion for a game that's highly praised) you'll like this MORE!" THIS DOES NOT SPARK JOY HOLY SHIT

nope, Warcraft is gone, it will never be back

Eh, every CC is like "omg wow is back, wow is saved, etc." making us trust blizzard and buy their shit. I'm not falling for it this time.

Thank you for labeling that the audio is spoiler free!

I really disliked the dalaran spoiler, is something i didnt know and would like to see ingame.

I like the exploration aspect of the beginning of the expansion being exploration and getting your foothold into the world you just entered. It reminds me of my D&D games and all the fun every corner of a dungeon can provide and the folks in the cities we get to meet with, etc.

spoilers start at 2min man...

oh cmon. that is the same sentence everybody uses at the very beginning of all wow expansions…

After playing modern games with smaller better rotations and much less abilities it’s hard to want to go back to wow with its manic rotations of insane button mashing . Wish wow made ability and rotations much tighter and updated . I want to play a game, not focus on up , down left, left right , a, b, a ,b down m down up

What would really breath of fresh air is, if one expansion we would lost "saving the world" to the bad guys and players would be eager to play next expansion on what would happen next, like a cliffhanger. Kinda like it was made by Marvel on Infinity War. I have a feeling the story does not matter, if I know from the start, we will kill the bad guys and save the world over and over again, just different flavor every expansion.

Old Warcraft didn't do it enough? Okay, but new wow does it WAY, WAY too much. It's all good, classic calls.

Is the Horde even there? Because all I've seen is Alliance characters with Thrall hanging around with them.

"Spoiler free" *shows spoilers* dosent affect me but i think it will piss off some people

You have become a master of saying contradictory statements and still get us hyped 😅 Thank you!

"Warcraft is back!" Oh how many times I've heard this phrase before, only to witness nearly each expansion fall and crash under its own weight ever since Cataclysm.

Will never believe it. What is missing is a world that actually matters. A world where the next round of "content" doesn't instantly invalidate the last and you actually get benefits for knowing the secrets of the world. Everything in the last decade has been generic, forgettable, plug and play content. Great raids/boss battles and that is it.

For all the upset at Dalaran spoiler people…it’s not a spoiler. Devs have talked about it in numerous interviews. The how it happens is what is under wraps.

I never liked Blizzard's custom of releasing the campaign and story in Beta Alpha, allowing people to know about the story of the expansion before it was released. This is very pointless and completely ruins the experience of discovering things within the game because Blizzard revealed the existence of the villain of the next expansion at blizzcon because players were not allowed to discover the villain within the game in the dark heart patch imagine how cool the players discover the villain the emissary only when they complete the dark heart within the game blizzard doesn't know how to create any suspense literally on the day the expansion is announced they reveal the villain instead of creating suspense

I don't think you've ever not hyped an upcoming expansion. I mean it makes sense, this channel -needs- wow to stay relevant but don't you feel a little bit grimy baiting the same shit every expansion cycle?

Anduin and the Divine Bell questline in MoP is peak warcraft + Purge of Dalaran

Everyone loves Asterix and Obelix. Not sure why Asterix gets so much love. He's always mentioned whenever there's a sidebar to a conversation.

I love all the people complaining about that it was suppose to be a spoiler free video but they see spoilers everywhere yet the video says "Spolier Free Audio". Reading is hard I guess

The thing I miss from older WoW is the class quests. Warlocks had to do quests to get each of their pets at certain levels; rogues had to sneak into towers or lockpick boxes, and so on. If the elves unite, and I would guess the horde and alliance become one big faction, then give us Yrel and the Titans to war against.

What if the Arathi help us defeat the void and then when all these three expansions are over, they become a third faction allowing World of Warcraft to have war again, but it makes sense and you get to choose one of three factions and they’ll be a whole Nother continent part of the war or skirmishes

I thought Dragon flight was "the WOW that we have been waiting for" . The truth is Blizz is making small strides in the right direction, but war within is not game breaking.

Idk man, I think MoP Remix does a flawless job of highlighting why the stupid "Campaign Quest/Side Quest" thing from SL doesn't work. The world felt big when you'd get sent to a town, there would be a story beat that unfolds by doing the quests in this town, big and small, then you get sent to the next one until you hit the climax of this zone that you've just thoroughly toured I really can't stand this "On rails" experience. It shrinks the world down big time.

Hey fellas, old WoW player here... suppose that I decide to start a new character for this new expansion... how lost am I going to feel with the game given that I havent played since Legion? Must I buy shadowlands and dragonflight to play the War Within? Should I wait until blizzard bites its own tail again and ruin this new "promising" exp?

I’m not coming back till wpvp servers are back , to me it’s just world of craft

My main issue with this is that Blizzard seem to have completely given up on the RPG elements a long time ago. Our focus now is begging and hoping for decent lore. I really think this is, and was, best done when the character player was included. Race and class have no bearing anymore and the characters I play are completely interchangeable with each other. I love being a Paladin, but no NPC in-game seems to care or even notice.

Warcraft has been in decline since the alliance and horde shared cities and zones

The lore of Warcraft has been destroyed and it cannot be repaired.

To me Warcraft was always about teaming up to fight a common foe. Not hating the other faction or its players, and certainly not whatever Shadowlands was trying to do.

Warcraft has been back for the last ten years and hasn’t been there yet

>those character models >that animation >back the eternal rat is a rat, even in a cope

Belular keeps hyping me and i got disaponted from blizzard yet again

Is there new UI or he is just using addon for quests?

What quest giver addon is that - that zooms in and gives the black parchment effect?

we have said this since mop

One epic quest that comes to mind might surprise people, but it's the Maldraxxus starting quest in Shadowlands. Just running into an arena free for all with everyone fighting everyone felt epic to me. And I would have loved it if they kept it like that. No matter the time of day or progression of story, if you could just return to that arena to fight massive free for alls with other players and NPC's I would have done so, so many times. Sadly they didn't so I didn't either.

Every damn expansion everyone always thinks this. The cycle of hope.

My man! The destruction of Dalaran IS, in fact, a spoiler.

this channel must have like 8 or 10 videos with this tile

Horde: Finding Mankrik's wife in the barrens screams Warcraft. The thirst for vengeance and for an outlet for Mankrik's fury is a true orcish reaction. Alliance: Looking for the lost guards in eastern Elwynn, only to discover their partially-devoured corpses. Only their insignias remain.

"Spoiler free... So anyway, Khadgar might be dead, but its not confirmed"

Yeah I'm sticking with Cata.

"Warcraft is back!!... sorta... kinda...."

It'll never be truly back as in the best days but is not dying either

I don't think I'll return to retail.

I have high hopes for this expansion. Hopefully Blizzard delivers.

I dont get these no spoilers story andies. Same thing with Elden Ring. They say no story spoilers, but...youre clearly showing story spoilers.

the developers still thinking i want to explore why sad people are sad in a game called warcraft is a perfect example of how far up their own asses they are

Tbh seems like another generic Disney campaign. You didn’t sell it at all, although you tried. Seems boring and bland

Great analysis, but the big question I think many people have is, "How quickly did you reach the end of the quest line(s)?" One of the biggest complaints, and I am pretty sure I am correct here, is that each expansion for the last few have been so quick to the end and nothing left for those who are new/returning since the existing player base is quite exclusionary. Is there anything to keep a player engaged for 6+months or get a good month and check out?

:::spoiler free::: goes on to detail the expansion

I doubt it. The wow we want back is pre-activision wow.

Is it though? I feel like you've had the same "Wow is BACK" video before every expansion launch recently. I'm burned out - don't think I will be coming back for this one. Blizz has shown every time that they're all about payers over players every day of the week and it's more depressing every time. :(

Hope Khadgar is ok, been a fan since Beyond the dark portal books

Its dragonflight with different graphics

I am one of the many who want more Sethrak, and I hope they make it into TWW since their lore talks about their _underground_ empire beneath Zandalar. 🐍

Warcraft was about leveling, exploring. With all the balancing, polishing and new IU it is not possible, characters feel like demigods at early levels instead upgradeable at max level. So fix the old world like cataclysm. Let us slowly explore again and build communities. I play Cata classic, just started. And damn…. I missed this. Not to slow, not Gen Z fast, just enjoyable, big community and challenging, just enough of everything. The game is to “EASY” and “HASTY” build. You don’t need people… you use them.

Lots of spoilers. Actually. Like?

2029? I thought each expansion of this saga was only suppose to be a year apart?

Hey man, love the content! I know you didnt spoil anything major, but generally speaking if you say no spoilers people expect a very broad opionion not info on starting zones and details about what characters are doing and the flow of the story.

You say this about every expansion

I still don't see where they bridge the gap between Classic and Retail for old Classic players in both mechanics or story telling.

A month after release: “Blizzards LAST CHANCE. How War Within NEEDS to change” lol

_"This is a zero-spoiler video."_ Bless you. Part of what I think has been lost in the Warcraft experience is the element of discovery. So many creators give sneak-peeks into what's coming that when it finally arrives... the delight of discovery and surprise are gone. Ok, I'm going to watch the rest of the video now :)

Spaces such as halls, caves, rooms are all so large in wow now. And for the last many epansions. I miss the old style tight hallways, corridors, caves that kept you on your toes and turning camera to see around the corner at any incoming patrol.

Maybe im just so jaded when it comes to WoW, but im extremely skeptical about this new expac.