The Warm Audio WA-67 vs Neumann U-67 REVIEW & SHOOTOUT

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This is a review of the new Warm Audio WA-67 Tube condenser microphone.
It also features an A-B Test with a Vintage Neumann U67.
You can buy the mic at Sweetwater
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The specs of the WA-67 are:
* Large Diaphragm Studio Condenser microphone
* Faithful re-creation of the classic '67-style pentode tube circuit
* EF86 Pentode tube for creamy smooth clarity and brilliance
* Custom large-core Swedish Lundahl transformer
* Custom All Brass large K67-style vintage capsule re-creation
* Gold Sputtered Mylar diaphragm, 6 microns thick
* High bandwidth polystyrene capacitors
* Boutique capacitors from Wima and Solen
* Nickel-plated brass microphone body and head basket for ultimate acoustic performance
* Premium Swiss Gotham 7-pin tube cable
* Polar Patterns: Cardioid, Omni, Figure-of-Eight
* Switchable Hi-pass filter
* Switchable -10 db pad
* Frequency response: 20 Hz - 20 kHz
* Rated impedance: 200 ohms
* Rated load impedance: 1 kilohms
* Equivalent Noise Level (A-Weighted): 17 dBA
* Maximum SPL for THD 0.5%: 138 dB
* Signal to noise ratio (A-Weighted): 78 dB
* Microphone includes: wood box, shock mount, hard mount, power supply, 7-pin mic cable
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@virgogreg 3 года назад

Love you respect of the classic 67 sound and its heritage and your honesty compairing the WA 67 with zero bias

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

That's what I try to do... Not being sponsored helps being honest... Please support me by subscribing to my channel!

@UTSONUT 2 года назад

@@MasterclaesVideos thanks so much for this honest review! it makes a difference when we hear a review from someone like you who has a lot of vintage analog gear and experience please also compare PELUSO mic LAB 22 47 VACUUM TUBE CONDENSER MICROPHONE and Peluso P 12 and Telefunken TF 47 (all under 2k and supposedly great emulations, which look like the real vintage mics and also reviews say offer great value)

@amirperrymusic 2 года назад

I auditioned a WA67 at NAMM this year and was blown away by how great it sounded on my voice. I was wondering how it compared to the original and this video just made me go ahead and pull the trigger on the WA67. This is all the confirmation I needed. Thank you!

@lightafluident.9950 2 года назад

Now there's a new mic on the block. It's a UT87 from a company called United Technologies. Best mic on the market right now for 700 bucks. And it gives you two different versions of the 87 in one mic. Go look them up. I can't wait to buy one.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Hi, thanks for the comment! 🙏🙏🙏

@LEVRAN Год назад

@@lightafluident.9950 i LOVE U

@sKarredtoon 3 года назад

I was waiting for ALF to pop in any moment!🤣🙏🏻

@MrMiskut 3 года назад

😂😂😂😂😂

@satorizero5448 3 года назад

Lmao

@fredd036 3 года назад

😆😆😆😆

@PedroSilvaMusic 3 года назад

Well done!!

@richnewman 2 года назад

Wow, I actually prefer the Warm Audio sound. I'd say the difference between the mics is no bigger than the difference between two U67's. Fantastic job by Warm Audio bringing us such an affordable version of this mic. Will have to get one ASAP. Thanks for the video!

@MasterclaesVideos 2 года назад

Thanks! Dont forget to subscribe!

@lightafluident.9950 2 года назад

I agree.

@claytonsegelov6914 Год назад

Disagree

@TheSteveKinney 3 года назад

I love the ending bit - where you're like "I wish I could say my nuemanns sound better but... they don't" ... really cool about the honesty. I think there is something going on a little different in the Nuemanns in the really high end. Seems to do that thing a little differently. But it's reallyyy hard to reproduce again and again in a demonstration. Likely has to do with axis and like you said - you can't really hear a difference. Pretty damn amazing. Great job.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Thank you! Please don't forget to like, subscribe and hit that bell button!

@jetairliner9660 3 года назад

...and then he casually says ”the stereo version of the u67” like it’s just the most natural thing in the world to have one of those lying around. Oh, and good, solid review! Thanks.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Well it’s actually the stereo version of a 269 (I cut out that part i guess) 😅. If you subscribe to my channel I will show you a bit more of some really rare gems in my Masterclaes Private Collection! Thanks for the positive comment!!

@michaelcaplin8969 3 года назад

Hehe, yeah, it's pretty insane! To be fair though, he probably - like most people who has a lot of those things - bought them back when no one wanted them and you could get m49's and u67's etc for 50 dollars each. Oh how I wished I was an adult in the mid to late 80's and early 90's and knew what I know about microphones today...

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

@@michaelcaplin8969 put two zero’s behind that price and that’s more realistic... 😅

@michaelcaplin8969 3 года назад

@@MasterclaesVideos Hehe, so I guess you didn't buy them back then. NRK (national radio and television here in Norway) was giving away their stocks of Neumann m49 microphones to whoever wanted them because no one wanted those crummy old tube mics. They couldn't get rid of them, so had to keep them. Decades later, that paid off! However, it is infuriating that the Gefell m582 pair I bought for 3500 dollars went for 3 dollars a piece when I was a kid.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

@@michaelcaplin8969 i grew up in a music store that still exists for more than 70 years... can you imagine the amount of instruments and gear I’ve seen no one wanted anymore? 🤯 If i had only known...

@harohm 2 года назад

Your absolutely wonderful and in-depth review of the WA-67 was so helpful that I ordered one practically before the video was finished! I've read so many reviews of their mics and it's never easy to know who you can trust or who's being paid to write a glowing review. But your review felt so true and real, especially after doing a bit of research into who you are, your vast mic collection (I'm trying not to drool on my computer as I write this thinking of the mics you own), your knowledge of recording/gear history, and the straightforward approach you have in telling it like it is all had a great impact on me. I also have a lot of mics (it's an addiction!), some very nice gear, and a beautiful studio, but nothing quite like what you have. So it's really good to know that someone out there who knows what they're talking about is laying out some much needed truths about all the gear I care most about, whether expensive or affordable. So I really just wanted to say thanks! "Cheers!" and Happy New Year! and keep up the great work...

@MasterclaesVideos 2 года назад

Hi Harry, thank you for your unbelieveable heart warming comment! I have shared it with the world because it went straight to my heart… Thank you for your support, it means a lot to me! Yes I am honest, and indeed I dont get payd by anybody, so my reviews are like I feel about a product. This message is such a boost for me since my live mixing business agenda was scrapped untill march… so i have time to make some more video’s. PS I had to give back the WA67 to the warm audio distributor, so there was no time to swap tubes. My vintage mics all have the original tubes

@harrymatthews5819 2 года назад

@@MasterclaesVideos Hello again Peter. I might say "too bad" that you had to give back the WA-67 but since you have just about the best mic collection I've ever seen that I'm pretty sure you'll be able to handle it... A couple of quick questions: In your opinion is it worth it to change the stock tube that comes with these mics (typically an Electro Harmonix) to an NOS vintage tube? 1-I usually do it but I'm just curious of your opinion... 2-I noticed a few Pultec EQ's in your rig (more drool...), any chance you might put one of those up against either the WA EQ or the Klark Teknik EQ that are modern copies of the Pultec? I've been leaning towards getting a pair of the KTs but would love to hear what you think of them as compared to the mighty, and quite expensive, original... As ever, Thanks my friend and keep up the wonderful work...

@MasterclaesVideos 2 года назад

@@harrymatthews5819 I have not experimented with other tubes since I do not own any of the "clones" I reviewed. But I read a lot of comments below that people often change the tube with good result. (Please have a look below and maybe ask these guys what they used as tube). 2: I owned a pair of Warm's but I sold them when I got the Pultec's. It is in the planning to do a Pultec shootout video... I just need 48 hours a day :-)

@lightafluident.9950 2 года назад

Too bad you didn't wait, there's a new mic out now that's killing all of these mic clones out here. It's called a UT87 from a company called United Technologies. Go look it up. I can't wait to buy it!!! One Love

@MrNeilbrody 3 года назад

The Warm sounds more transparent to my ear but the 67 sounds thicker. Great video!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Thank you! Please don't forget to like, subscribe and hit that bell button!

@stevenholst 2 года назад

It's amazing how similar they actually are. Small nuances, but the Warm is remarkable for the price difference!

@elonlove343 2 года назад

I agree they sound exactly the same. The only thing I would worry about is do every single Warm Audio WA-67 sound like that? Sometimes with cheaper gear and less detail to craftsmanship you have to also think did he just get a better version? If not than these mics are just amazing.

@lightafluident.9950 2 года назад

Try the UT87 from a company called United Technologies. Best mic on the planet right now. It just came out.

@mikec3412 2 года назад

I like your fair criticism not just in this video but in the 251 as well. We all have hit and misses. Sounds like this was a hit though.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

True!

@jeremyfortunethe1st 3 года назад

I own a studio with a good mic locker and I was going to say it basically sounds the same. It's close enough to say it's within the variables of two vintage mics next to each other. WA makes solid gear at great prices.

@HarvinderSingh-yy8th 3 года назад

Two great condenser microphones phones are U87ai and TLM 103.

@Mope333 2 года назад

@@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Way more than just that

@lightafluident.9950 2 года назад

Technology is just too good nowadays to have to or even want to spend 3,500 bucks on a mic when you don't have to. I'll stick with companies like Warm and others that offer quality like them.

@recordmixrepeat4327 11 месяцев назад

It all boils down to what you hear. I have been looking at the Warm for a few months and your comparison is the best I've run across so far. Thanks for the work.

@MasterclaesVideos 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the appreciation!

@SamirDipalee 3 года назад

Amazing Video. Thanks Peter. Want to get my hands on one of those babies sometime in future.

@katukavo 2 года назад

Well Done!! This Warm Audio WA 67 Amazing sound for the price U$799. TY!!

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

It is a good mic for the money! Did you buy it?

@katukavo Год назад

@Masterclaes Not Yet, but I will!! 👍👍👍😀😀

@manuelcasas8013 3 года назад

Great demo! I was also disappointed by the shiny finish on the wa47s, not "pro" looking at all, IMO. Quite impressed by how close they sounded, much closer than I expected. The guts on the Neumann are just impressive. Thanks a million.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Thanks for the nice comment Manuel! If you like my Video's please smash that THUMBS UP and SUBSCRIBE to my Channel to appreciate my work!

@elonlove343 2 года назад

Its the guts of the Neumann that make me wonder will the Warm Audio WA-67 sound like that on every one of them? Or did he get lucky and just got an amazing version. That's the thing about build quality sometimes. Other than that the WA-67 is absolutely amazing.

@BeniRoseMusic 3 года назад

Wow thanks for this! I had a chance to use a vintage U67 on one of my recordings a few years back and have been longing for that sound ever since, good to know with a little savings it could be attainable again for me!

@ssdigitalmixmaster8036 3 года назад

Really appreciate your passion , your attention to detail and honest opinion Peter ... Great !!! All the Best !!!

@TheAndrewforbes88 2 года назад

I love Warm Audio outboard gear but have not been real hot on their mics, I do REALLY like this mic though.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Hi Andrew, what outboard do you like from Warm?

@garyshirinian 2 года назад

I've watched this video before and I like watching it again. Thx again

@MasterclaesVideos 2 года назад

Thank you!! Please dont forget to subscribe!

@garyshirinian 2 года назад

@@MasterclaesVideos I have.

@dodgedforgottenn Год назад

Great video! Thank you for taking the time to do this. I also largely agree with your conclusions.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Thank you! Which one would you buy if money was not the issue?

@dodgedforgottenn Год назад

@@MasterclaesVideos oh, the original 67. I’m a vintage gear guy, so that mojo and history mean a lot to me. Plus it’ll appreciate with time as an investment.

@akibakemono 3 года назад

The Neumann seemed to have a little more presence tonally, but The WA-67 would do just fine.

@matthewpenna1711 3 года назад

Thank you Peter for this review and for being up front! We all appreciate that!

@guyoli190369 3 года назад

Warm Audio heeft een pareltje voor een budgetprijs op de markt gebracht. Natuurlijk heeft een vintage Neumann meer karakter maar een Mercedes Gullwing heeft ook meer karakter dan een huidige GT. Zo goed als geen verschillen te horen, een prima tube en point to point construction. Top! Peter ik ben overtuigd van WA-67 en leuke review :-) Thanks

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Merci voor de fijne commentaar!

@craigthatcher2646 3 года назад

This is a really great comparison and I truly appreciate your skill and honesty. Vielen Dank!

@yagomarques-audioemusica3359 3 года назад

Both sound great, but the Neumann's U67 have a natural compression and a very straighforward midrange sound. Warm's sound a little blurry on the low mids, but we can deal with it moving the mic from the source. Good review!

@onomatopoeidia 2 года назад

yes that feeling of compression and lip smack is the gold dust you only get from certain mics.

@Thewatcherinthering336 8 месяцев назад

Yeah sure…whatever makes you feel good. Your clear bias and well, snobbery shows through. Just can’t admit that Warm nailed your precious Neumann..same thing when American muscle car owners get dusted by a Honda or Toyota…

@Luchodela Год назад

Thank you so much for this honest review! I just made up my mind to get the WA-67 definitely after watching your video. Thank you!

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Thank you for the comment!

@daniel_belongs_to_christ Год назад

6 minutes in and Im sold on my next mic. I want to add this to my dream list of Neve 1073 and Cl1b vocal chain.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

You mean the U67 or the WA? If it is the U67, I would go for a M269!

@Jjf109nine 3 года назад

The Warm was more hollow sounding, especially when speaking from the back. From the front it had a slight hollow resonance in the 800hz-1200hz region. I also hear more sensitivity and room ambience with the Warm. In addition, the Warm is brighter sounding.

@KeenApollo 3 года назад

Would work for modern music though

@waterspaulj 3 года назад

Really, really nice compare. Thanks for taking the time!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

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@dab7963 2 года назад

The Neumann had a audible hum on your first test. Also to be honest I liked the Warm better. Great video.

@BandrewScott 3 года назад

Now he’s got a sub on his wrist! What a collection.

@ramencurry6672 3 года назад

It’s Bandrew!!!

@jl1848 2 года назад

Downloaded and loaded into daw. Switching back and forth between the two on acoustic guitar, the difference is pretty clear. U67 is very nice, open, clear, but not harsh. I'll take it! The wa67 is much duller, and I noticed it would overload in places where the u67 did not. I'd be interested in a comparison between these and the tlm67. Thanks very much for the test!

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

I had a TLM67 and it it is not a mic that impressed me… a lot of sound is made by the transformer in a mic and the TLM is transformerless…

@danilomc9124 3 года назад

Thank you very much Peter, maybe the most fair and important review of both mics.

@jelnet Год назад

I heard more self noise on the Neumann, but in all others ways I could not tell them apart. Thanks!

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Thanks for the nice comment! Which would you buy if money was not the issue?

@jelnet Год назад

I had another listen, this time with Beyerdynamic DT990 headphones, and this time I couldn't hear a difference in self noise, I only seem to notice that with earbuds and then I definitely hear more noise with the Neumann (probably because the audio is closer to my ear drum with buds). However, with the DT990s, the guitar comes across with more "life" in it than the WA, somehow it seems to have more liveliness, whether that's to do with more top end I don't know or some kind of special magic 🙂. So I think I'd have to choose the Neumann if money was not an issue.

@tutubeos 2 года назад

Wow, you have awesome gear there, congrats. The Warm Audio Mic looks very shiny, I love it. Thank you for the comparison 🙏

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Thanks for the comment! What mics do you own?

@tutubeos Год назад

@@MasterclaesVideos I have a Rode NT1 from 2006. Very nice mic.

@grahamtaylor6883 3 года назад

One thing that would have been nice to test is how much resonance on a vocal they produce. Cheaper mic's tend to have annoying spikes in the 4k region when you get a strong vocalist.

@JBrm 3 года назад

There's always some undefined low frequency rumble in the Warm Audio Signal, that's the first thing I noticed (besides the lower presence tuning).

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Yes Johhannes, you are right! The U67 is much tighter in the bottom end! If you like my Video's please smash that THUMBS UP and SUBSCRIBE to my Channel to appreciate my work!

@joemanzella7817 3 года назад

@@MasterclaesVideos I was just going to comment the same thing but since Johannes B. already did, I'll just say I agree with him. Nice comparison BTW. I subscribed and hit the bell!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

@@joemanzella7817 thanks a lot! Much appreciated!! 🙏🙏🙏

@EM-km8em 3 года назад

@@MasterclaesVideos how would you compare the wa47 to the sm7b

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

@@EM-km8em Two different beasts, but you can hardly ever go wrong with an SM7B...

@Bass-dude 3 года назад

Thank you for an awesome piece of work with these mics

@aloneinthedev 3 года назад

Fantastic review and very nice studio ! Hope you can also have a look at the WA87-R2 for review comparing it to U87.

@themarcos150591 3 года назад

The WA has a more muffled proximity effect, I think. I gotta say I can barely wait for a 7 minutes review normally, but this one was so good I couldnt believe it had ended after 14 minutes.

@MrSwirly69 Год назад

This was very useful to me! From your demos, the Neumann to me sounds more detailed and open on the upper mids and high end, but hey. That's what a smidge of eq is good for. It helped me feel good about spending more money and getting the WA67. Absolutely love it on my voice, which is baritone and can be lacking in upper mid detail when my technique isn't getting the sound properly out of my face. Thanks for all this!

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Hi Jeff, thank you for the comment. It’s nice to read you are happy with your WA. What preamp are you using?

@MrSwirly69 Год назад

@@MasterclaesVideos a Warm Audio 273. They've sucked me in!

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

@@MrSwirly69 I have one too, I'm going to compare it to my pair of vintage 1073's.

@MrSwirly69 Год назад

@@MasterclaesVideos I'll look forward to that out of curiosity. I've really liked it for what I've used it for, vocals, condensers on electric guitar, paired with a 57 through the WA412. Like I said, they got me. I worked with a 3124 on drums the week before I got the 412, and while it was an apples vs oranges comparison, I've loved the similar punch and depth the 412 gives to direct bass and electrics. Gotta put some drums through it. I don't think I'll be let down.

@onomatopoeidia 2 года назад

really nice review, I have a U77 I restored and it's truly remarkable and I'd like all the others now ;-). The reality is modern tech allows us to get incredible quality just by using similar circuit design and standard components but those original mics are time capsules and the extra 1% is worth it. It's a shame the innovation is so poor with so many companies. Copying is not the same as creating and they should be paying money back to the designer as it's their I.P. and where would we be without those brilliant pioneers? Save and buy the original, you'll cherish it forever and you'll get the best out of yourself every performance.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Just one word: TRUE!

@NikolausBrocke 3 года назад

You can't really hear a difference in comparing them in solo mode. What will happen, if you compare it in the mix? At the end the only difference is the collectors value. An original will ever be an original and will be much much more expensive than all copies ever made. Regardless of the build quality. Great comparison! And wonderful equipment in the back.

@iam_elroy 4 месяца назад

my anxiety when you put that USM69 on the edge😬😬😬 but then you fixed it😮‍💨. great video👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@MasterclaesVideos 4 месяца назад

Thanks! Which one is your favorite?

@MarvOtis 3 года назад

Great Video! Great Job! and love all the gear in your studio! I could live in there for years. I own several Neumann mics but having a pair of the u67s is way out of my budget. Thanks for sharing.

@RooftopRecording 3 года назад

Wow! You've got some great racks of gear! Thanks for an honest and illuminating comparison.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Thank you! If you want to have a closer look at the gear, please have a look at the rig rundown video’s as well!

@chickenlickin3820 3 года назад

nice work Peter

@Prodoozer 3 года назад

Thank you this comparison of the two mics. I'm researching some of Warm Audio's products and this was extremely helpful. Liked & subscribed.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Thank you very much!

@BrianKRoss101 3 года назад

Thanks so much for this! I'd love to hear the high-resolution files.

@artandstorm Год назад

Yes. The basic sound of the mics is indeed very close. However, the transient response is not! I.e., the very attack of the strung guitar strings is much better on the U67 imho. More fun to listen to and more moving. Keep in mind, this very attack is what we try to optimize on kick drums to make them work emotionally - making it dancy.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

The sound is indeed in the transients! Thanks for the comment. What is your go to mic for kick drum?

@artandstorm Год назад

@@MasterclaesVideos Kick: I use a D-112 or a 47 FET. Sometimes both: D-112 very close and a FET 47 farther away,

@uptownphotography 3 года назад

Quite a nice comparison video. I must admit, I am sorry I didn't buy back in the early 1990s a Neumann U87 when it was around $2000 ($US)...Now they are $3600 US...So hence looking for an alternative mic. BTW: I don;t like the way the WARM looks also, but I guess I could possibly get over that if it sound's great. The jury is still out for me right now, but thanks for spending time to do this video....All the best from the US (near NYC) Phil

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

You could still spend your money on a Neumann... they offer great budget alternatives like the TLM series

@uptownphotography 3 года назад

@@MasterclaesVideos Yes for sure. Agreed. Thanks. Phil

@LightsandMotion 2 года назад

thanks for this video! For a U67 clone I use the Slate VMS mic with the software, and it works remarkably well! Might have to purchase this one too, to compare.

@MasterclaesVideos 2 года назад

Have you tried the Townsend L22?

@LightsandMotion 2 года назад

@@MasterclaesVideos I have not personally tried it no. will do some research and see what to add to my cabinet next. thanks for a great channel!

@daveebryan828 3 года назад

Nicely Done, Peter! I agree with Greg T, below. As I'm looking for a few mics for a start-up home studio, the Warm Audio WA-67 and WA-87 were mentioned (along with the Shure SMB7). Thanks for a well presented shootout.

@jeanfrancoisnolin340 3 года назад

Nous arrivons à un point que je ne croie plus que l’équipements fait une différence sur l’ensemble du projet. Nous devrions peut-être retourner à la source soit à la composition, arrangement et interprétation. Le Beatles avait peut-être tous ces microphones vintages cependant ils possédaient que des magnétophone 4 pistes…. Ils se devaient jouer les bonnes partitions et arrangement. Bravo pour ce banc d’essai et la justesse que vous l’avez fait.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Merci pour votre commentaire ! Les micros sont juste des outils. Le métier se fait en jouent et en enregistrement!

@ishortiz9988 3 месяца назад

Wonderful review. Thank you sooooo much for this work.

@patrolduty8715 8 месяцев назад

Man, the original U 67 has THAT smooooth sound and magic warmth. It sounds like a liquid and 3D at the same time. Unfortunately, the original U67 will cost me an arm and leg.

@MasterclaesVideos 6 месяцев назад

Just keep saving!! Thanks for the comment!

@triplebacon1 3 года назад

agreed! :-) marginally brighter I thought also, nice comparison Video :-)

@WilSantanaMusic 3 года назад

Thanks Peter. Great video. I’m thinking to buy a tube mic and thanks to your vid I will considere this warm audio.

@moakeettutsuwa2875 3 года назад

Great comparison video! IMHO, to my ears, (listening on a low-budget USB audio interface with Sony MDR7506 headphones, and of course RU-vid's compression), your voice on the Neumann had more clarity and a gentle nudge in the mids/upper-mids which will probably make it sound more up front in a mix without much EQ or processing. If my budget for a tube condenser was around the price of the Warm WA67 of $899 USD (new), I'd also consider the Mojave Audio MA-200 (Royer designed with a Jensen transformer, JAN 5840 tube, and continuously variable pickup pattern), the Miktek CV3 (custom AMI T7 transformer, sub-miniature pentode tube, and 9 pickup patterns), Dizengoff Audio LD1948 (unlisted tranformer per manufacturer's website), or the Lauten Audio LA-320 (also unlisted transformer, but with a dual-triode tube). Have a nice day. Cheers!

@RideTheFuture 3 года назад

Forgive me but add a warning about the ultra hyped brightness of the MDR 7506 cans - don't mix with them - I use them only to have vocalists monitor themselves with them. Extremely misleading headphones with deeply carved out midrange.

@moakeettutsuwa2875 3 года назад

@@RideTheFuture It's all good. I understand the point you're trying to make. I've used them for years and my ears have gotten used to them, especially to check for any offending or musical sub-sonic frequencies since they're designed to reproduce sounds that go down to 10Hz. I like the sound stage and stereo imaging of the 7506s as well. What other headphones would you suggest I try for mixing that doesn't have an ultra hyped brightness?

@andivax 3 года назад

thank you for comparison! Also WA-87 Mk1 is very close to U87 Vintage.

@TheSpokenWord38 3 года назад

fair enough! good job, i put headphones on and it was surprisingly close, i still hear a decent warmer mid with Neuman, but like you say, and with a touch of mixing, the price alone explains... chow wm

@eugensagel9088 3 года назад

Hi Peter, wow .... I would not have thought. But you are right, the 2 microphones can hardly be distinguished. We also have 2 U67s. I'll test the clones with strings and other instruments. Am very excited. Thank you for your very good work! Great! I saw you have a new Compressor "Focusrite Red". Tell me about this candidate. Or make a comparison to the plugin from Focusrite. I think the plugin is also available under ProTool, I'm not sure ..

@nashvillelicks5247 2 года назад

Awesome reviews. Really enjoy your honesty and humor.

@MasterclaesVideos 2 года назад

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@evymoon 3 года назад

Thank you very much for your clear test 🎶✨

@upstairzstudio8480 3 года назад

Beautiful review, answers a lot of questions. cheers from down under

@tryaproduction 8 месяцев назад

Thank you a lot for your test !

@MasterclaesVideos 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comment! I hope it is useful for you!

@rawspaghetti9185 2 года назад

Great work ! Thanks for the comparison

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

You’re welcome! Did you see my other video’s too?

@manuellujan5625 3 года назад

Thank you for this video sir. Great comparison between the 2 microphones. WA is a great deal yes the NM is better but that that much better? Id use a WA anyday and be happy about it.

@dannyp941 3 года назад

Lmao

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@FamousTVvoice 2 года назад

Yeah, they're very close - BUT - the WA-67 is a little boomier in the lower mids (200 - 300Hz). If recording a female, I'd lean toward the Warm for that subtle weight / proximity effect from the Warm. The U67 has the very familiar focus to the lows that I really like. So, I can hear the difference between the two they're close. I've heard greater differences between U67's of various vintages. As for the head grill, yes, absolutely a significant influence. I got to visit with Martin Schneider at Neuman GmbH back in the mid to late 90s, and it was quite interesting to hear his explanation about the amount of consideration and testing that goes into the head grill designs of their microphones.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Fantastic comment thanks! True, there are big variations between vintage mics. I always try to maintain them well to reduce the amount of variation. What is your favorite mic?

@ManuFeramus 3 года назад

I love the end ;) I understant ! Brilliant ! Thank you

@AlexOlivari67 2 года назад

Love your work, exactly what lunatics need !

@MasterclaesVideos 10 месяцев назад

Lol! Indeed it takes one to make these 😅 which is your favourite?

@MaybeDavid 3 года назад

Great review. Thank you! PLEASE PLEASE do a shootout with the WA-87 R2 against the vintage Neumann 87. The recent 'Sound on Sound' Magazine review stated that it is a very close match, and was even preferred on a female vocal recording....

@bbmusic4983 3 года назад

Would love to hear the 96k files! Thanks for the comparison!

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Noted!

@johnsweda2999 3 года назад

Don't see any negative side on the circuit board construction and using silicone is a good touch and the right approach, I think it sounds better than the Neumann's a little bit warmer more detailed and could be EQ in exactly the same, and for the price difference it's a no-brainer. be interesting to see what the new Neumann's is like compared to the original and warm audio.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Hey John, I thought it was appropriate to make a comment on it, because if would NOT have made a comment, probably somebody would have commented on the fact that I did not comment on it... Are you with me? :-) We can endlessly keep going on comparing other clones with originals if I look at what is being offered on te market. Sometimes you just have to draw a line somewhere.

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@johnsweda2999 3 года назад

@@MasterclaesVideos yes I beat you to it lol

@ciorteadan 3 года назад

That guitar sounds so so good! I would really like to listen to the recorded files in my daw not only over youtube!

@aisharpproductions1351 3 года назад

The Neumann has that special top end compression sound, specific to their microphones. I do think that the Warm was close, but sounded more "loose". Thanks for posting, this was interesting and revealing!

@ashcreekstudios 10 месяцев назад

Well done ! Best Regards from Germany, Roger

@MasterclaesVideos 10 месяцев назад

Vielen dank!

@self4autism333 2 года назад

I could hear the cardioid pattern on the wa, and i mean your actual heart beat on the shelf test. You are pretty healthy for a muso. 72 bpm. I had headphones on on the AB voice test they sounded extremely similar.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

My thought exactly, I have a second U67 that sounds a bit differebt and the WA fits right in between. Which one would you choose?

@a.siphrodias2867 3 года назад

Let's be honest here, they're really close. The U-67 is a little darker and the WA-67 is a little more modern in it's voicing...but not by a lot. They definitely share in the same relative sonic signature which is pretty incredible when you take a step back. If there's a bit of rumble you'll end up hi-passing and tighten up the signal a bit. If its too bright for a given application you'll shape the hi-end to go for a more retro-style tone. I think a lot of these companies think the public wants a "pre-mixed" sound because that's sort of the modern quality that most people are used to (i.e. lots of lows/lots of highs) and in many cases that does in fact make mixing more streamlined, for pros and for a novice. I swear I don't work for Warm. Just think it's kind of amazing and think it's important to not lose perspective in all this. THEY SOUND F***ING CLOSE

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

When comparing the WA with my two U67's the warm just fits right in! Now let's see if that is the same case with the 251 :-)

@MartinLutherMcCoy 3 года назад

neumann will always have the advantage of 3 d characteristics that are hard to even identify... that said, wa has done a fantastic job for the cost. I can make up the sonic differences with my eq choices... you are right about it's appearance and the construction of the warm.. it sounds fine and even better with a vintage nos tube. I have one and I am so far, very pleased with my purchase. Keep on rocking.. nice review

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@joellouisfire 2 года назад

Planning on doing a C800G comparison with their new mic? Fantastic video! Didn't think they'd be so close.

@ivansmeulders710 3 года назад

Goede vergelijking Peter! En top uitgelegd 😉

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Merci!

@leebuck8532 3 года назад

Wow! Maybe not the same, but I definitely wouldn't knock the warm. It still sounds great!

@felipousismix 3 года назад

Thank you for such an honest review, cheers!

@mydeadletteroffice 3 года назад

Great honest review.

@dupermang 3 года назад

Nice shoot out. Every file that I get from non pro engineers that use either the WARM audio 67 or 87 sound flat a muffly, so I was not a big fan of the WARM mics. Maybe it was the non pro engineers that didn't get the mic to sound good?

@lightafluident.9950 2 года назад

It's always the "guy behind the boards" and not the equipment. In most cases anyway.

@garyshirinian 3 года назад

I love the way you say , my gigantic guitar playing skills. Lol . Not long ago I bought Slate digital large diaphragm, it sounds quite nice . It does what I need . It has 3 microphone emulation . Thx for sharing.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

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@jwhelan709 Год назад

your reviews are very well done.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Thanks!

@christinatackett5851 3 года назад

I think I got the nail on the head. The grills may be the difference. The u67 sounds compressed. The wa67 sounds loose. Not tight. That may have to do with the difference in the grills. Exactly the same tho in tone n frequency response. Only way to test is to put the u67 grill on the wa67.

@OllertonMD Год назад

WA is a tad brighter (seems like virtually all new mics trying to emulate old mics have this problem) that could easily be fixed with EQ. Besides that they sound pretty much the same

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

Thanks for the comment! Which one would you pick if money was not the issue?

@meyerstreetrecords694 3 года назад

Great honest vid! Thanks so much man!

@m.i.stapes 2 года назад

Thanks for the review!

@Joelfrancis 11 месяцев назад

Thank you. I’m a huge fan of warm audio

@MasterclaesVideos 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the reaction Joel! What Warm mics do you own?

@Joelfrancis 11 месяцев назад

I currently own the WA-251 and The WA-8000 but after watching this video I’m thinking to pick up a WA-67 for sure

@kulturka48 3 года назад

Thank You Very interesting comparison. I also had expensive Neumann Tlm 170. It Has 30 years Old But in the 90s there was no choice.

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@kensettle3184 Год назад

Thank y ou much for doing this!

@LightWthoutTheStatic 3 года назад

I was really hoping for something unique here, but the WA67 seems to have that normal WA tubbiness to the mid and low mid that always puts me off from their mics. It sounds dark, but veiled rather than aged. The U67 sounds more compressed somehow, more rich even with dense tone.

@kodykindhart8230 3 года назад

Give me what your smoking

@LightWthoutTheStatic 3 года назад

@@kodykindhart8230 I wish I could. Maybe it's just these samples for some reason. I was hoping for something good but I'm personally disappointed in the sound of the WA version. I'm listening to this on Neumann KH80's. Ive done previous shootouts myself with the WA87 And WA251 and my experience there was oddly similar. Veiled sounding rather than vintage or colorful.

@kurtralske4026 3 года назад

That's what I hear also. The Warm low end sounds big and loose, the Neumann low end seems nicely controlled.

@MasterclaesVideos 3 года назад

Exactly! The Neumann is a lot tighter in the bass!

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@peterchoe 3 года назад

The WA67 sounds so close that the difference is probably no greater than the difference between two Neumann mics. Keep in mind that the response tolerances for the U67 are +/- 2db, and this clone sounds like it's within that range. The one thing that is arguably missing (and this is probably something you wouldn't even think about if it was a Neumann) is that this particular WA67 sounds to me like 10% less "airy" than the genuine article. I hesitate to quantify this because the U67 is one of the most complex microphones from the golden age, given its use of a pentode as a triode and a very intricate negative feedback circuit tied to a tertiary winding on the transformer. Unlike the AKG C12, it is very much the opposite of a "straight wire with gain." Also, it looks like Warm Audio no longer uses 3u Audio capsules, which sucks because they are by far the best available that don't cost as much as a WA87. Good thing is the negative feedback makes the rising response a non-issue.

@self4autism333 2 года назад

Thankyou, i could just hear a difference in the openess of the top end. Made the neuman sound a tiny bit louder or a bit raw which I liked. This i could tell with my eyes closed and guessed were you were swapping back and forth and i was able to tell 9 out of 10. This could be the grill. Interesting you first noticed the shine, this is also the reflection of the grill maybe, and this means reflection of sound too. Could you modify the grill somehow.

@MasterclaesVideos Год назад

I think the head basket plays a significant role, but i have not seen any aftermarket baskets for the warm yet… that would be intresting