Yes. I have a Citizen Eco-Drive with the AT feature (synchronization with nearby longwave time signal) that was my usual watch for nearly a decade. Ordinary leather strap lasted not much over a year. Deployant extended that to several years at least, usually more. Finally I bought a goldtone steel bracelet that looks okay. Here in Florida it’s sometimes impossible for the watch to receive WWVB from Colorado… but if you want a leather strap…
I'm already past the point of being annoyed with Tudor. TOTALLY overhyped. Completely manufactured admiration. Nothing there that isn't the same old same old.
Maybe, except the Pelagos range. Great specification, and the toughest watch you can buy excluding the G Shock. And the titanium ages beautifully. It becomes part of you. And the colour of the case and strap are strangely beautiful. I think this gentlemen's post is motivated by love of Rolex, and hatred of Tudor. The reason I can't have a Rolex is there fancy over polished shine. It's ceased to be a real useful watch. It's become a pretenders watch. For someone who never does anything, but wants to BS people. A sign of falseness. Or showing that someone is untrustworthy. To be honest it's a watch favoured by salesman, and we all know that salesmen only care about their commission.
Asking if a brand is overhyped? That implies that people listen to hype, and they buy accordingly. Buy and wear what you want and quit worrying about hype.
Agree. I think Tudor is receiving just the right amount of ‘hype’ great quality watches and designs that obviously appeal to millions, at the right price and (after a short wait for the new pieces) actually available.
I fundamentally don't understand the question about if Tudor is getting close to overhyped. There aren't waiting lists for Tudors. They aren't being flipped for over MSRP. Their value proposition is still fundamentally the same as it was five years ago. So what has changed? What is the hype now? I think the person asking the question is just getting a little bit bored of their designs. And that's fine. That's a totally different thing, and a valid criticism. I think people use the word "hype" way too loosely when it comes to watches, to the point where it has essentially lost meaning and is not very helpful for sake of discussion
@@gabillionaire where's here? And what models? In the last 4 weeks I've been to AD in London, Oslo, Frankfurt and Reykjavik. I've seen every model but the 58 GMT in cases, ready to buy. Locally to me in DC I see plenty of every Tudor but the 58 GMT. If there's a wait m list at yours, maybe try a different AD?
@@derekbrettell8121 don't wait for a Rolex either. Wasn't long ago AD salespeople had to work to sell you a Rolex. No need to work to buy one. The hype will pass and normal will resume
The question of mass produced watches, we should remember that for the most part it was massed watches to draw us in. Mine was an 80 quartz chronograph. Still thinking it's a beautiful timepiece. Thank you for your prospective on one of my many sins
The birth year watch question was easy for me. Just get a new watch that originally came out in your birth year. I got the newish Hamilton PSR which, questionably, originally came out in 1970...my birth year. I love it because their are so many design elements that remind me of the 70s (like Space 1999), even if they aren't my exact "birth year". In other words, just get a watch that reminds you of your early childhood. That's your birth year watch.
Some people are willing to pay to be kicked in the balls for the abuse they get from a Rolex AD. The Rolex dealers must be laughing there as off behind the customers back.
Honestly I have my name down with 3 Rolex Ads (1 NYC, 2 NJ) all super nice and friendly. Where do people go that they are getting so miserably treated?
I think it's time for Tudor to stop labelling everything as Black Bay now, as there is so many different watches it is in my opinion becoming confusing and somewhat annoying hearing "black bay this", "Black bay that". Its time to start creating more distinctive names for families and types of watches in its range.
Tudor is not overhyped, they make great watches for great prices. They are unmatched in their category, Meta’s certification for under 5k very is impressive and few brands can compete
Tudor is already overhyped. They sold less watches than Hermes last year, ranked 17th, but probably came second on youtube airtime. What do they deliver? No design language of their own, just a black bay homage line. They look expensive for just a homage brand.
17th best in the world at ANYTHING is amazing! They have a Hans Wilsdorf design language. It’s unique to Rolex and Tudor. Everyone else copies their design language not the other way around.
Jenny please don’t take this bad but speaking just for me it’s been a bit boring seeing so many Q&A’s lately. If is not another Q&A then it’s a Rolex, Omega or Tudor video. As a long time fan I would love to see more videos like before, more variety. Reviews from Seiko, Oris, Longines, Hamilton, comparison between similar models, etc. I know your life may be different that it was a couple of years before, but I would rather see less videos but with a better quality and the style I think we all love. Anyways just my opinion here, don’t want to piss or even hurt anyone ❤
There were 2 questions Jenni answered about ADs. Before Covid, going into an AD was like going into any other retailer. Very sad state of affairs when you have to ask for advice just to buy a watch when you think about it. I do not blame the people asking for advice. It reflects more on the way AD's run their stores.
Too much advice on how to suck up to AD’s and their trumped up sales staff. You seem to forget…..WE are the customers spending OUR money. Sales staff should stick to selling their wares to anyone who wishes to purchase it on a first come first serve basis
What makes Tudor so great is the value for what you get. However, there are multiple signs that Rolex is preparing to significantly hike the prices of Tudor, and if that happens, Tudor won't be Tudor anymore and you may as well just buy an Omega.
For me any watch without a date window doesn't look right or appealing, as if a hand is missing. hence, I couldn't like the Tudor Blackbay, and that snowflake hand !!.
Tudor is overhyped already for a good while. Maybe if they launch some true original designs (like some of the discontinued models) and stop relying on Rolex “homages” I will change my mind.
But they have released new designs. They will all have similar design language because it’s the same Hans Wildorf foundation that owns Rolex/Tudor both brands share similar designs right from the foundation. If you don’t care for the basic Rolex design then you really aren’t going to like Tudor it’s that simple. Luckily there are plenty of other brands to choose from.
Tudor has been over-hyped for a while now already. They make nice watches. But they are not remarkable in any way, the BlackBay is a boring and confused design, and they are leaning far too heavily into that one model.
Small watches for small wrists: Most examples I see are around 38-40mm, which is not exactly small. I have a small wrist, and prefer 33-37mm, and my selections are slim outside of vintage. For 36, you get a lot, but it’s usually intermixed with gem-encrusted monstrosities, or thicc bois. I love eg the 34mm Omega Seamaster, but hate the lack of minute indices. I’m currently waiting for an OP34, but my ADs tell me it’s going to be a long wait.
Good morning. One of the things I have never heard anyone discuss, is the fear of damaging a high end watch. A few years ago, I stretched my budget, and bought myself an Omega watch. Much to my surprise, I hardly ever wore it because I was always afraid I was going to scratch it, or damage it in some other way. I was also afraid to draw attention to it, for fear that someone might steal it. I had to resign myself to the fact that I was not meant to wear such a watch, and sold it. I have gone back to wearing my old Seiko's and a few lesser(?) time pieces. Ones that better suit my lifestyle ..... and comfort zone.
Own the watch, don't let the watch own you! If you aren't wearing it, using it and extracting joy then sell it and put the money into something you will enjoy and use. If it's sitting in a box then you are not getting your moneys worth out of it. Especially if it's causing you anxiety or worry. There is a good life lesson in this. Don't put "luxury" items on a pedestal. They should be things that enhance your life and bring you joy from use. If they don't do that on a daily basis, they're not worth owning!
I feel the same way, I have a small collection of watches, one a new Rolex Explorer, Ive never worn it for fear of scratching it. I am always interested in case materials that have higher scratch resistance than SS, ceramic, tantalum, brilliant titanium. High end watch makers could make their watches scratch proof but they don’t.
if you have to stretch it, you’re not ready for it. work hard until you feel buying it is loose change, then you can truly enjoy the watch. all the best
I don’t like Tudor watches, I’m sure it will ruffle some feathers but I just can’t get into them. Tried them on multiple times and I don’t like the feel or look. I still enjoy my Seikos and Omegas.
It has become back to a buyer's market.. Having to order from an AD is fine as long as it is not too long. A month or two months is fine.. waiting for a year is perhaps not going to work for many.
Re: leather strap changing... Five to six YEARS?? If I wear a watch with a leather strap every day I think it usually wears out in more like five to six months... :-)
Regarding "real" watchmaking. Being a compound word, one can focus on either the watch or the making part. If your emphasis is on the watch, than the answer would be yes as the product and it's inherent quality are the ultimate goal. Rolex, for example, are considered mass produced but could be argued to be excellent quality in terms of accuracy, serviceability and reliability. If the emphasis is on the making part, then likely the answer would be no. So as in most things in life, it depends.
What isn't a mass produced watch we are looking for most of the time? Rolex, Omega, Tudor certainly are mass produced. Maybe you could argue about the holy trinity. But most brands are mass produced. Probability only micro brands can be considered not mass produced considering the whole market
Tudor has been overhyped for a long time already. Many have bitten the marketing bait, hook-line-and-sinker. Yet, fact is, there are many more cooler, nicer, and nicely crafted watches from microbrands that easily blow Tudor out of the water. Many just fall into Confirmation Bias and Availability Heuristic mental errors so easily.
Tudor are quite samey with their models compared to say Longines which has an amazingly diverse catalogue. If you don't like metal sports divers then you probably aren't that interested in Tudor as a brand.
I would never buy a Rolex, and I would likely never buy a Tudor (especially one with the “Tudor hands”). If “overhyped” means “wouldn’t buy it because the flood of recommendations feels like pressure is being applied”, then yes, Tudor is overhyped. Like the Oak, speedy, PRX auto, and these days the Tsuyosa.
tudor is starting to be a company of the people. what do you mean overhyped? i would get it if you mean overpriced but i think theyre just doing things to get noticed right now
Portfolios ? I am not shopping for jewelry / watches like I do for groceries. So I am not planning to spend thousands at those shops just to get the privilege to spend even more. That is ridiculous
Rolex to me is like the Dior and YSL of the fragrance world. But true watch enthusiasts know there are many less popular watch brands out there that are worthy to be worn.
Hot Take. Even if a movement had a single plastic part in the movement, it negates the watch's validity entirely. Even if the plastic piece was hand-crafted. Even if it was ornamental. The only plastic I can tolerate is plastic washers, a plastic case, or a plastic date wheel. if any of the gears or pallet fork is plastic, I'm instantly walking away.
@@slazarus6772it’s less aesthetically pleasing for a lot of people and it doesn’t hold value so idk. Much less offerings as well. I don’t think of watches as investments but ya
Some people like Tudors and prefer not to spend twice the price for a Rolex . I also know people that have both Rolex and Tudor in their collections for various reasons. Doesn’t mean you are necessarily unable to afford the Rolex. Why is that concept so difficult to understand?
First comment, been watching for a while. Usually a german accent is tough on my ears for some reason, not yours. I like that other than the big boys you show affordable watches too. Also i clicked for another reason. I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me, you weren't wearing black. You look nice in blue. Don,t get cocky though, you have a way to go before you catch Teddy.😀
I don’t understand how Tudor is ‘overhyped’ - they have great designs, make great watches which are as solid as big brother Rolex, AND you can actually by them at retail after a short wait. Jenni’s husband Kai has good videos on how to deal with ADs - in GER but you can turn on the captions w translation - works great, highly recommend
I don't think Tudor is overhyped (yet) some models are at the time of release. But that is the same for every brand. However the thing that is disappointing about Tudor recently is that they update the catalog too slowly. Feels like they take to long to offer more colors for popular models and adding features like t-fit clasp to older models.
Mass-produced watches aren't real watchmaking? Wow, that's pure snobbery. Quartz watches are also real watches. As much as it pains me to say it, even the Apple Watch can function as a real watch.
The biggest change for me in my watch preferences is not caring about in-house so much. It was not talked about 20 years ago, then it became a major thing about 10 years ago (people would refuse to buy a watch without an in-house movement). I now think there is nothing wrong with a watch brand sourcing parts at a specialist company. Rolex did this for many decades. Ferrari and Rolls Royce don't manufacture all their parts, neither should a high-end watch brand. Maybe it sometimes is better just to leave it to a specialist? The quality of the parts should be the deciding factor, not who makes them.
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typical question that AD asks when you go into the store.... "have you bought from us before?" -totally nonesense. The question is "Have they (AD) allocated any watch I want to buy at all?"
I lastly saw submariner on the wrist of 27 y. o., bent, owner of the čevapčići restaurant from village in central Bosnia, wearing denim shorts, white t-shirt and black adilettes. So, it's communist watch, not elitist. All of the community wear it, and rolex wants to make it elitist. Only problem is they are the best P. R. organisation in the world.
I’m just too used to having the time displayed by my watch be within a few seconds of that displayed on my phone when it’s connected to the network. So: high-accuracy quartz, synchronization with time from a longwave station like WWVB, synchronization with GPS satellites. Watches with ETA PreciDrive movements are almost HAQ, though remarkably unpopular: Certina makes some, Tissot a few, some smaller brands usually affiliated with or owned by the Swatch Group a few more. I am too cheap to buy Citizen watches with the 060 movement, sold only in Japan anyway. I’ve worn automatic watches. Trauma from my Dad’s old Omega Seamaster that he wore unserviced for twenty years and that needed more work than the cleaning and lubrication I could then afford. Later it was stolen so I can’t even try it again. Anyone else remember the cheap Soviet-style Russian watches that Harbor Freight sold for a while a few years after the Soviet Union broke up? I owned at least two if not three and they were remarkably unreliable. I understand the love for mechanical watches but I have a perhaps unhealthy obsession with the correct time.
Dress Watch Idea: Platinum Case / Bracelet, With A Alternate Black Shell Cordovan Strap, Vanta Black Dial, White Ceramic Louis XIV Style Hands And Baguette, Emerald or ASHOKA Cut Diamond Hour Indicators.
The best minimalist watch dial is obviously the AMBUSH Timeless watch available on fleabay. 2nd best is any of the one-handed watches. Mass produced watch brands ? Surely have to include rolex in that category nowadays...
Hey there. With leather straps, cleaning them from time to time massively extends the life. A neutral leather cream and a bit` of elbow grease with a microfibre cloth works wonders. As for Tudor - Right now Tudor are killing it in terms of price/quality and (gasp!) availability -- prices are fair for what you get (and you can get them!), so not over-hyped....... small 'h' "hyped" maybe :D On 'mass produced' watches - lets be realistic, unless you are buying from Roger Smith, almost every watch is mass-produced in some way (Kudoke have to get those movemenets from somewhere!) - Quality is key, and there's a very loose relationship between production numbers and final quality....
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on amzwatch 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
I don't think Tudor is overhyped and with the introduction of master chronometers they are stepping up the game . They do have an over fascination with BB and are over milking it though, with far too many in the range. Do something different like the north flag or quirky Pelagos LHD again. There are so many BBs I'm starting to dislike about the BBs , some of the models shouldn't even be in the BB range, and be stand alone .
I don't think Tudior is even close to being overhyped. Until we get to a point where Tudor watches are seen as a status symbol/luxury good that the general non-watch enthusiast buying public covets, like they do Rolex, I think Tudor will continue to be a really great enthusiast option. It's this sentiment that makes me really interested in Tudor, and far less so about Rolex.
There has been a series where an ex manager at a Rolex AD explained that having portfolios at multiple stores is a bad thing. He said that when they ask you for your info, thats cross referenced against all other AD's, and if you're on more than one or two, its apparently a mark against you. 🤷
I don't think I'd ever buy a Tudor watch. My vision is 20/20 but I just find it so hard to read the time. From arms length, the 'snowflake hand' square looks very similar to the circle markers and 50/50 I've had to take a double glance of the time which is a shame becuase this is supposed to be the iconic 'Tudor' look. It feels like the Tudor brand identity is quite poor and unoriginal especially since the snowflake hands seem to imitate the rolex hands and the mercedes hour hand... I feel like microbrands put a lot more effort in being legible and yet unique when compared to Tudor
