THE WEAPONS TO USE FOR SUPER HELLDIVE BUGS | Helldivers 2 Tierlist 

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Unsubbed and disliked due to this

Blizter can 60% of the time everytime 2 shot the new Aplhas for headshots.

Its a great weapon, but it can't effectively handle big numbers of bugs. It just lacks when totally swarmed. It is great before that spot though

Yeah, I was thinking the same for a bit, but it's actually not good enough for S-tier, as much as I like using it. I find myself often enough in situations where it simply does nothing and I have to rely on a strat or support weapon, or a teammate.

It's outrageously inconsistent. Can tbe aiming at a hunter in the front of the pack and arcs to an enemy to my right. No thanks. Awesome vs bots though

How tf do you play a 30-ish meter range weapon vs bots. It's A+ against bugs, but nowhere above P tier against bots.

For how good the stagger is, and since it one shots multiple targets (more or less when it wants), the fire rate is decent. A bit clunky when swarmed by hunters, but you have nades or secondaries for that purpose. We often say the Blitzer has a good fire rate... Because prior to its buff, its fire rate was half of what it is now. Imagine the clunkiness.

The duality of this comments section is hilarious. A dozen people all saying he's crazy for not putting Blitzer at the top of S, but a few saying they couldn't stomach the fire rate or misfires and immediately throwing it in the bin.

​@@66maybe66 imo the duality comes from people now using AC against bugs. They don't need a primary able to kill commanders/hive guards if their support weapon can do it, and need chaff clear instead, which is where the Blitzer kinda sucks at... Despite being SSS tier in every other department (ammo/stagger/penetration/damage breakpoints(except for spewers but it's still better at killing them than any other primary when you think about TTK + ammo economy))

​@@66maybe66i mean they went crazy when you have to aim the incendiary breaker instead of blindy shooting and still have spare mags for more no aim shooting.

The Blitzer has a fire rate of 133 rpm. Putting the Sickle next to it is criminal, there is such a huge gulf between the two weapons.

The liberator carbine feels pretty bad against the bugs, difficulty 8+ the gun feels pointless when I can get so much more kills with other options

@@JacobKelley-vw1pw You can get more kills with things like Defender, Tenderizer, or explosive crossbow? It is a Liberator without that pesky slow fire rate limiting your options at close range and has a nice close combat dot sight. If it is better than B tier, and worse than S tier, then it has to be A tier.

With the Breaker Inc, it just can't properly handle medium armor enemies and on high difficulties they are everywhere.

its all about choosing a support weapon and primary that complement each other such as a light pen hoard clearing primary and a med+ pen support weapon. The inc breaker is far better than the Blitzer vs t1 enemies but struggles vs med enemies but that's where the auto cannon or other support weapons come in to play.

Im ranking weapons and saying it may be alright in lower tiers but it doesnt work when you x3 the enemies!

yeah the way burst work now is weird, making it auto complete a full cycle would overall reduce the inconsistent time between shots as now you dont have to take your finger off the trigger (mouse or controller) and press it again and instead tap the trigger, it fires the full cycle and you can tap it again once it's done, better memorization of the timing and less treating it like a full auto by spam clicking to get the fastest fire rate, it's why I use semi auto on incen cause I can just tap fire then

I very much like the full-auto option on Liberator penetrator, because I’m able to adapt and choose my style for different situations. Semi auto and burst can be done with full-auto mode. Real issue with this weapond is the 30 round magazine combined with terrible damage per shot. Liberator penetrator should find it’s identity with high durable damage when shooting for example devastators chest plates. This is a medium 2 penetrating weapond that is simply less effective at killing devastators than ”a normal Liberator” would do and both of them have to aim for weakspot or magazine dump too many rounds for durable spots.

My first game yesterday, every single time I died was to the blitzer 😂

I'm waiting for my plasma AR.

TBH, give ARs more damage and the ammo economy will be much better. Buff all these that you listed +33% damage.

AH is always talking about balance, yet is failing to see how bad they are? They could easily buff all these and they wouldn't be even close to overpowered

​@@JacobKelley-vw1pw they are good vs bots

This is perfect. I've been saying all guns need either a higher magazine size or higher magazine count. Reload simulator isn't very fun. Also making guns unique from each other would be cool

I mean do you WANT a game where you have to pay extra to get the best stuff? The base game is fucking paid already

When you shoot from the front arc of a Commander, the head is at the center of mass. I think that's what got you confused. You can easily see the effect if you flank them.

Hope they are cooking up some good changes in the next 60 days!

I'd love to see it return as well! Just nerf the shrapnel damage!

Totally serviceable but still none feel fun against the bugs, on the automaton side though they have A LOT of different options that feel great and fun

Frag grenades have shrapnel. They never lost it. Toss one at a container door and the shards are easily visible.

The frag grenade is weak they nerfed the eruptor...? Jesus the co2 leak in this community.

I can't imagine being at AH and everyone at a table agreeing to release this weapon. Like nobody tested it and said the truth? 😂

@@JacobKelley-vw1pw Boggles the mind, the shit that goes on at AH...

what makes it so good now?

disagree, shriekers are it's bane. A.

Infinite ammo, amazing stagger, amazing damage, medium pen. For a primary weapon, this is incredible. Keeps hordes off you incredibly well. Hunters trying to jump at you, Alpha Warriors sprinting at you, no problem with the Blitzer. Can take a Commander’s head out in 1 shot, even an Alpha Commander (though this one is inconsistent). Stalkers are one of the most annoying and lethal enemies on the Bug front - the Blitzer makes Stalkers a JOKE. Again, Shriekers are its one and only downside. They are very hard to deal with, and if you think that’s enough to knock it down a tier, fair enough I guess. But every primary has a downside, and Blitzer is in the top 3 on Bugs, no question. I’d say it still deserves S-tier because, what it does well, it does amazingly. If Shriekers are enough of a downside to not be in S then Breaker Incen should be in A too - it has zero stagger, which is a huge downside against the Bugs, most of all against Stalkers. You just have to aim for the head and unload your entire mag, and hope you get lucky and the Stalker dies before it launches you. Nevermind the fact that you have to notice the Stalker before it gets too close to you to even be able to try this. Oh, and having to spend your entire mag is a bigger problem than ever now that they took 2 of BI’s mags. Cookout is number one in my opinion. It has the chaff clear and Shrieker clear of the BI with stagger added on top of that, which is huge. Its only downside is its laughable durable damage, but you should use a Support weapon for durable enemies anyway - like oneshotting Alpha Commander heads with an Autocannon, so I think its drawback is smaller than the other top 3 guns. The Cookout though, I think is the number

I think ALL the AR's need either additional magazines or additional magazine size. I would say plus 5 or plus 10 across the board, to all of em. Then I would start by making guns more unique again. Tenderizer has INSANE handling and recoil Make the concussive keep its unique knock back but do a bit more damage. Have the penetrator do the most damage and be your strongest AR. Liberator be your balanced all rounder. Just something to keep them unique. I would also say more damage and ammo on the marksman rifles or armor pen. Another good way to make each gun unique is to change the recoil and handling different and unique for each gun

Con: Enemies have to hug you for you to hit them, and because it's an arc weapon, a single pebble can block line of sight and fuck things up.

Ah yes, the infamous 25m hug range

@@jalontf2 "25m" range of the most inconsistent damage type in the game, I've never seen the weapon reliably hit anything beyond 10m in the 500 hours I've put since it's introduction, and that is considering I've used it for at least 100 hours of that time.

Just take the flamethrower or stalwart with it.

That's consistent with his view of the nerfs.

It was OP. Using only two shoots to destroy a complete patrol was excessive

cuz it was ? reducing the mag size just promotes careful play so that they dont just spam it everywhere ong i stopped using it cuz it made everythang so boring and easy

@@Alsborg I do agree that it was amazing, but I am not happy with them focusing on that, while ignoring many other weak primaries.

@@LuisGonzalez-tp1uy I didn't use it either because of that reason, but I am only playing on Level 7 difficulty and mostly a bot player, so I don't have much skin in the fight. It was a low skill weapon that you could just shoot in the general direction of the bugs and it'd do massive damage(at least to the lightly armored bugs).

I dont run support weapon most of the time so im relying on my primary even more. And i would take the og punisher over the fire breaker everytime.