Chris, my name is Chad, Brooke is my wife. I want to thank you for this video especially. I grew up in southeast SD and farmed with my Dad for over 25 years and went through everything you did in this video. Thank you for the memories, good,bad, and ugly. We did have an Oliver dealer in the area that was distantly related. Sadly Grandpa said they cost to much to buy, so he never bought any Olivers.
Bad luck, sir. She sounded sweet and the exhaust gas was amazingly clean, plus you obviously look after your temperatures before working her hard. I wish you better luck and an easy, economical repair; I look forward to seeing you both in action again :-)
Oh snap Chris there's your winter project buddy maybe an engine pull don't know huh that is such an awesome tractor and I know it has been good for you and your dad love your videos Man I don't blame you for not being out in the cold I love your lineup when you did that slow mo I was looking for something to go wrong like a snap crackle pop I'm glad I'm glad it wasn't best of luck with getting it fixed brother big red was running good happy holidays man👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👊🏼👊🏼
I used to have a 2150 oliver pulling tractor with a motor out of a 2-155. I had that thing apart many times. I have a lot of parts if you need any. I had 5 motors at one time. I have a whole motor from an army truck if you need one. It would fit in there with very little work. Those Hercules were known for cracking sleeves and the sleeve would get sucked down into the oil pan. They were also known for breaking crank shafts. I have a few if you need one. Those motors were made in canton, ohio. I live near there and I know a guy who worked there. He also has all kinds of new parts for those things.
Years ago, while I was a teenager, I was operating an Oliver 1800, pulling a subsoiler. About halfway thru the day, the engine suddenly got quieter, then stopped. I tried to restart it, but I could tell the valves were messed up. It somehow broke the camshaft in three places, and also broke the camshaft gears. Stuff happens on the farm.
The joys of farming in the winter lol and good luck on get the 155 back to life those hercs are not cheap to fix I helped my neighbor do a 2-135 and now if he goes after a white its going to have a cummins engine in it now lol
Very sorry about the 2-155,those were my favorite tractors back in the mid 1970's. I always thought they were too nice to put in the field,with the two-tone gray paint job and chrome trimmed black mesh grille,with square headlights.Very sharp.White even put a hood ornament on their tractors. I hope it's something simple to fix. Merry🎄Christmas and Happy New Year.
The last in a long list of reasons I hated our 2-135 was the #1 rod broke up next to the piston and was just slapping around in the sleeve, hope that's not the case with yours.
Its not just you. Everybody around here has had one breakdown after another this year. I have my 1955 tore apart in the shop right now. Heading out to chop stalks a few weeks go and a god awful grinding started coming from the rear end 7 miles from the farm. Limped it home and finished off the season with the 1950T. I was fearing the worst. By the sound it was making you would have sworn it was a bearing let loose or the lube drive chain broke apart and went through the gears. I lost trans oil pressure for the trip but it came back after the tractor sat over night which was confusing? Luckily as it would turn out the PTO clutch pack let loose and the clattering must have been the shrapnel banging off the hydraulic pan cause none of the gears are marked up and the sump screen for the pump was plugged with clutch material. Had a bunch of small breakdowns on my 525 that kept causing headaches. Luckily the 7300 made it through with just a bolt falling out of the hydraulic pump bracket with no damage. Neighbors down the road just sent one of their 2366's off on a low boy a few days ago to the dealer, dont know what they broke but it must be bad and they still have a bunch of crop standing. Buddy broke two walkers in his 6600 so he had to finish up using his dads combine and help from his cousins machine. Friends of ours had a total loss with a combine fire with half their crop left standing, and thats a short list. Just a shitty year all the way around....
The military Hercules is the same block, but smaller sleeves. Something like 465ci instead of the 478 in your tractor. Those engines can be found fairly cheap, can probably buy a whole 6x6 truck cheaper than just the engine alone. I've heard some people have swapped Cummins in these, I think the 8.3. Allegedly it's not a hard swap.
I had a 1650 that made the same noise it was a broken crank on number one . Drove it home half mile its a wonder it didnt come threw the block . good luck
Sorry about the engine Chris. Been a few years since I've seen the inside of a Hercules. The one I had apart had a bunch of blow by. One of the injector holes plugged up and it screwed up the piston. Not a cheap engine to work on. If I remember correctly don't bother with new cam bearings if you don't have to we had to get them fitted after we put them in. It was a real pain. Good luck looking forward to the repair video.
Good tractor , a lot cheaper to repair ,and keep up than computer tractors that you can't do much to . Keep the the history of past ag alive . Oliver / White tractors did not get sales they deserve ,for the equipment they made . If not for the AG.depress in the late 70's and early 80's
It always seems to happen to the low hour tractors dang it. I got a 7030 that melted a piston from a bad injector that only had 2800 hrs. My brother put a new sleeve and piston in and rebuilt the injectors and it's as good as new again.
I had the.chance to sit in the cab of white which is something I've always wanted to do so a couple of weeks ago I got the chance to do that totally unexpected.
There is a saying in my area about Oats..... Best time to plant them is dark nights in October.....next best time is dark nights in next October.......I worked on a Hercules Engine in the Army.......
To bad about the 2-155 Hercules are really a a old school tuff ass motor. I was told it was designed for the military too be able to burn anything from deisel to waste oil. Also heard they are a bit spendy. Maybe it’s just a injector?
First!!!! LMAO 😂 🤣... First one this far west anyway 😎 Sorry I'm late Chris, but Detwiler put up a video of splitting his token International tractor.... Oats, we grow winter and spring varieties... Don't remember much, if ant freezing issues.. didn't matter what crop was in the ground, always prayed for snow before it got too cold... clover is the worst, the frost heave tares the roots off.. crimson especially.. it will look beautiful, then in about March/April it will all turn yellow. You said it, gotta do what you gotta do.....or it won't get done
No problem, Ed. I've got a bunch of youtube to catch up on now that harvest is over. I've been meaning to ask, do you get anything like our lake effect rain and snow in Oregon, off the ocean?
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I think your lake effect might be a little more... And a lot less predictable. They do say that predicting the weather here is one of the hardest places in the world.. Give it five minutes, it will change 🤣😂.
What a bummer. Hate to hear that. I don't know why but our 2150 would break cranks for some unknown reason. There was a time you could get a good used military dot 5 hercules for cheaper than you could rebuild one for.
Chris, if you need a good reputable machine shop, I recommend Auto Parts Machine Shop in Ann Arbor. They do a ton of Tractors and have a lot of Hercules experience. Sorry to hear about the breakdown on the 2-155.
I'll keep that in mind. I've got a guy in Jackson I've been going for years. The guy that grinds cranks retired from Crankshaft Machine in Jackson and is less than 10 miles from me. It's also been 3 years since I had them do machine work, so hopefully they are both still at it.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Sounds good Chris, just wanted you to have options in case you didn't have a go to shop. Best of luck, I'll be watching for the diagnosis.
The cold is definitely hard on equipment! Will the military parts for the Hercules fit the White motors? They were pretty tough, they were multi fuel engines? Good thing you have a back up! It'll make good videos! Thanks Chris and sorry for the luck!
Yes, I even have a set of military high compression pistons and sleeves. Im tempted to put them in, I see how bad things are before I make that decision.
I have a neighbor here in MN who farms a lot of land & he had a pile of corn on the ground. It was 10 below last week & he was drying corn. I could not believe it when I saw the steam coming up from his dryer. The coldest we dried corn was about 17 degrees & I thought that was bad.
I'm in the upper north. I've seen -18c and 1 meter of snow per week but the last 15 years it's changed. I'm starting to think there might be something to this global warming.
Those are good engines , parts are reasonable, military surplus Continental engine , just sold a power unit a couple of yrs ago, scrapped on that the Amish drove into the dirt on a sawmill, sorry I did that, should have repaired it.
Yeah, I had 2 complete parts engines until a couple years ago. I was cleaning the barn and decided I wouldn't need enough off them to justify the space they were taking up, so I sold them. Live and learn...
Hello Chris, your landscape looks so European. Nearly like here in Germany. The size of your standard tractor is same here. Nice not so big fields with trees around. Not this gigantic desert like fields. When you have this Hercules/white/Continental engine..... Isn't it nearly the same like the one in the army 2.5ton and old 5ton trucks from Vietnam Era? Perhaps you can get one from a surplus dealer. The 5ton is turbocharged with around 180hp. Would be interesting to compare the engine and look, if it's the same block. I see, your engine has a compression ratio of 17:1. The army version is Multifuel with a compression rate of 21:1 to ignite petrol. But it burns also diesel and engine oil or Hydraulic oil. Or any mixture.
They are the same basic engine, it used to be common to repower these tractors with surplus military engines. Now people put a Cummins C series in them, which does make for a nice tractor. You're not the first to mention the similarity to German countryside. Are you in the Saxony area?
@@ThatOliverGuyChris hello Chris, I'm from the area in East of cologne. It's called the "Bergisches Land" because it's the former country from the dukes of Berg. Here the hills are a little bit more steep and it's not so spacious like your area, but sometimes it looks very similar. Ok, you can use a cummins, but then you have to refuel with expensive diesel fuel. The army Multifuel runs on nearly all what is a fluid and burns. All your old engine oil can go in the fuel tank. Or Hydraulic oil, or petrol/diesel mixture.....
stupid as it sounds, if the LP tanks can't build pressure due to the cold, heat them up. Toss a pot of warm water on them. Just try and remember this for next year. Living in a place where it can get cold enough to prevent LP and propane from vaporizing completely, its what the local gas providers recommend doing.
Here's hopin the cost and repairs are not to bad. Are you all done with heavest season now or just a little left. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Well that really sucks about the 2-155! I know it sucks when you have a one of your tractors go down, espically for something like engine issues. I will look forward to watching you find out whats wrong and then repair it. Sorry that your misfortune is a learning experience for us. Maybe Santa will bring you some Hercules parts for xmas. I would have fired up the 1955 to haul the wagons, then you would have had 4wd again.
I thought about the 1955, it was still hooked up to the grain drill, and I figured for as cold as it was, it might not start. At least there are plenty of choices. 😀
Sorry to hear about the tractor going down. I noticed you toke you're screen off the auger on the head. You having trouble with it feeding into the throat?
Really hoping that the Hercules isn’t done for. I can understand why folks do it, but I really don’t like seeing all the Cummins swaps. Hope everything goes better for you
They were a Fiat built tractor, I'm not as up on those as the American made tractors. I think they were a newer version of the Oliver 1470. I've heard good things about them, but don't have any personal experience with them.
you got a few years on me so take as a grain of salt if the tractor is running good and dont seem to have any miss makes me think you got troubles some place other than in the engine
@@ThatOliverGuyChris not sure where to go if there is no miss i want to think the valve train is not hurt i think if i was to start on this one i would want to do a leak down test to start off with to mark valve train off the injured list
Yeah, once I thought about how it didn't seem to be missing, no unusual blow by, my thoughts went to a turbo failure. The first thing I will do is pull the air cleaner and inspect the turbo. After that, I'll pull the valve covers and see what it looks like in there.
Dropped valve would make it miss, look for extra black smoke, would be tip blown off injector, changed a motor in a pickup for that, and was only the injector, over fueling will make one knock
Yeah, I thouht of that after I recorded the video. No smoke or extra blow by. My guess is a vane or something broke off the turbo and ended up on top of a piston, but I haven't ruled out a broken crank either.
I had that happen to a IH 560 and it had broke the crankshaft. Still would start and run but sounded like a old diesel 2 cyl JD. Maybe yours wont be that bad. Good video!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris It wasnt easy to see as on ours it broke across the flat spots and they didnt open up much. we took the pan off and turned it over with the starter while watching from underneath.
If it needs a crankshaft, some of the military cranks had much better counter weights than the tractor engines had. It would be best to get one of those. I have one but it would need reground.
Sorry bout the 155! Had similar problem with a super88 diesel except I replaced the tach cable. started it up pulled out of the barn went to close the barn up and it shut itself off tach cable broke not sure if it broke cam or what happened?
