The White Terror during the Russian Civil War 

Nice video, Stefan! By the way, our friend TIKhistory mentioned you in his video "The REAL Reason Germany Kept Fighting". I think your thesis and his are coherent and complementary. Germany between 1933 and 1945 was a messianic state, that's why they kept fighting until the bitter end too. Obrigado! ヽ(͡◕ ͜ʖ ͡◕)ﾉ 🍀 🇧🇷

Things got so bad in russian civil war, that you would actually see more states independent from even inside of the modern russia borders compared to spanish civil wars simple aid states

The conquests are unbelievable.

So wealthy lol

i wouldn't brag about it

Where did they go?

​@@yoohootube how us he bragging?

Outstanding!

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Indeed. Brutal man.

He was a real sweet heart. hahahaha!

One of my favorite psychopaths!!!

Some of the Mongols actually believed he was "the second coming" of Genghis Khan.

Indeed...

Thanks for watching.

He was a nutcase, but a very interesting nutcase, none the less!!

@jan - I wouldn't call psychopath Von Sternberg eccentric or fascinating hahaha. Evil, repulsive and criminally insane are much more accurate

Many thanks Jesse!!

Lol.

Proudhon and Bakunin were two of the first self-proclaimed anarchists in Europe and sadly internalized many of the anti-Semitic,homophobic and misogynistic prejudices of their time. Indeed, they were called out for the hypocrisy of claiming to be anarchists whilst holding such bigoted opinions by contemporaries such as DeJacque,Goldman,Berkman and Tolstoy.

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Thanks for watching!

guess why

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Ungern-Sternberg for sure. As much as he was a brutal warlord later on, he was also a fanatical monarchist. Believing Tzar to be "apointed by the god." Prime reason for him joining the whites was restoration of the monarchy and hate of the bolsheviks. He did fought them till the end, albeit later using terror tactics. He was for one odd and interesting character of the war I agree.

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Thanks for your reply.

@@HistoryHustle I forgot to say, Lenin's actually born in the year of the horse like me

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U.S. terror around the world since the end of World War II.The terror of the British against the Boers, the terror against India, the terror of Spain in the Americas against the indigenous population, as well as the Inquisition inside Spain, you can not even stutter about the terror of the Germans, etc.

Капиталистический мировой террор…

@@user-ci3nm3gt8c buffoon.

"Who were equally as horrific as each other" BAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Ахахахха "500-ий царский террор"

Majority of white officers weren't monarchists

Some wanted a job. Others hoped to join the winning team. Many deserted.

Not only were aristocrats and bourgeois and commoners disgusted and terrified by the Bolsheviks. So many commoners fought. That the Bolsheviks were anti-Christian also aroused a hatred of them within the ranks of the peasants. One must not take Doctor Zhivago at face value!

Socialist-Revolutionaries: were basically the communists who believed the peasants had to carry out the revolution. More on them here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5eQlzlksd4w.html

@@HistoryHustle I wouldn't call them "communist"

For sure. One day!

Thank you Jonathan.

Thanks!

Cheers!

Wat lachen. Naam komt me bekend voor... Culemborg of Wageningen?

@@HistoryHustle ik zat op het pantarijn in Wageningen bij u in de klas tof om te zien dat u zo groot bereik heeft en nog steeds zo enthousiast als vroeger

Good question, anyone?

I found an original paper where a dozens of his officers name list and they settled down here in Hungary...

@@csabafamin2277 I have heard they first went to Constantinople, no?

@@namhochoi8829 I know, but some of them ended up in Hungary too...

@@csabafamin2277 more you learn...

A rare thing I guess. I have a cheap repro from St Petersburg 😅

Nope, both happened.

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What has the west to do with this all? Eleborate, please

@@janzzen9095 in the russian civil war western powers sended troops and supplied the white movement

Russians are the most beta people around. Invade another country and whine and bitch when aligned countries get involved. True soyboys

I mean RCW was fought between White Imperialists and Red Imperialists so idk if it's really mirroring current events.

Alemania y la burguesía cometió crímenes que no se conocían en la historia del mundo,el terror rojo viene de hay es decir esto es lo que nos aran si salimos derrotados en la revolucion tenemos que ser iguales que ellos o estamos perdidos

Indeed.

Are there any sides in war which fighr with clean hands tho?

Sad truth.

That ended when bolsheviks came to power.

Let's hope not..

Many thanks, Tim!

Sad history yes.

Как в наших "либеральных" фильмах)) "Несчастная страна! Несчастный народ!"😏

Mhm, one half is imprisoned, the other - guards. Right, right, right.

We can. His theory has been debunked. Even people who won nobel prizes can be wrong on some aspects. Besides, many Nazis spent time in the Gulag. Does that mean they were right too?

@@HistoryHustle Understood. Good points. Everyone not having the same opinions is what makes life so interesting. Keep up the good work. Regards, Robert

Covered the Red Terror in another video.

I am afraid these aren't lies. Both the Reds and the Whites committed terror.

There is NO comparison.

@Владимиров Why are you suddenly bringing Finland into this discussion??? The video is about Russia. Please don’t “muddy the waters”.

@Владимиров This is typical of Soviet misinformation and propaganda. Finland declared independence in December of 1917 and was quickly recognized as such by many nations,including the Soviet regime. This Russian Civil War started in Russia in earnest in 1918 and touched upon Finland only because Bolshevik elements in Finland started mass shootings of Finns. To compare the barbarism and scale of the Bolshevik Red Terror to incidents of war by the Whites is a gross misrepresentation of history and an attempt by Bolshevik apologists today to equate the two. In addition, the Red Terror instituted by Lenin was encouraged by the Bolshevik government and Lenin personally issued many communiques and orders to be especially brutal. Later, he awarded communist murderers with medals and pensions. For you to continue to try to equate the two is a clear example of Bolshevik rewriting of history. Sorry, but the Red Terror is well documented and its brutality well documented. Here for example is an entry from Wikipedia. “According to Vadim Erlikhman's investigation, the number of the Red Terror's victims is at least 1,200,000 people.[17] According to Robert Conquest, a total of 140,000 people were shot in 1917-1922.[18] Candidate of Historical Sciences Nikolay Zayats states that the number of people shot by the Cheka in 1918-1922 is about 37,300 people, shot in 1918-1921 by the verdicts of the tribunals - 14,200, i.e. about 50,000-55,000 people in total, although executions and atrocities were not limited to the Cheka, having been organized by the Red Army as well.[19] According to anti-Bolshevik Socialist Revolutionary Sergei Melgunov (1879-1956), at the end of 1919, the Special Investigation Commission to investigate the atrocities of the Bolsheviks estimated the number of deaths from the state policy of terror pursued by the Soviet government at 1,766,188 people only in the period 1918-1919, including 260,000 soldiers and 54,650 officers, about 1,500 priests, 815,000 peasants, 193,000 workers, 59,000 policemen, 13,000 landowners and more than 370,000 representatives of the intelligentsia and the bourgeoisie.” Your attempts to equate the two is laughable and evidence of a Bolshevik revisionist mindset. It won’t work.

What are you referring to ?

I wonder that too...

@@HistoryHustle I'd say he's talking about Jews.

Yes the Joos, who also caused your pecker to shrivel up and fall off

​@@andrewliberman7694 oh, you know exactly what they're referring to.

Yeah.. he was a psycho.

He sure was extreme.

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All were evil if you ask me.

The question should be put in a different way: Who was more progressive. The old system of the Russian Empire has rotted away, and the ruling class has not undertaken reforms. Therefore, the creation of a new system would not have been without blood in any case. And here the question arises: Who will make the next system better, more progressive? The Bolsheviks proved by history itself that their system was more stable than others and withstood the Second World War, while raising science, education and healthcare to world heights.

Sources, please?

Considering that the Bolsheviks held more populated land and actually won the war, no wonder that they killed more.

@@felixndayisdebologne9725 Here is ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Красный_террор to "Число жертв" paragraph

Two evils don't make one good though. I did cover the Red Terror in another video.

Both estimates are wrong. Red terror: 50.000 to 200.000 people killed White terror: 20.000 to 100.000 people killed

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oh i guess mongols and french must cancel genghis khan and napoleon because they killed so many russians(((( Dude, relax. That was so many years ago. And Peter was the man who changed Russia from some tsardom so far away into Empire, he made Russia a western country, built Russian navy and built St.Petersburg (where huge tons of finnish people come and booze). I'm sorry for so many finnish casualties (don't forget that there also was a plague and many finns died because of this, though many died because of cossacks (who were ukrainians looool) and that's really bad) Oh, why don't you tell us how Finland tried to invade Soviet territories in 20s? Oh, yeah, i see, no one should know about it. It was bad bad russians who started the war in 1939. You should learn ukrainian-russian history insted of eating propaganda

"The greater the terror, the more certain our victory. I care not, if we have to burn down half of Russia and kill three quarters of the people. If we triumph, it will have been worth it." General Lavr Kornilov, first commander of the White Russian Army, quoted in Arno Mayer, "The Furies." No matter who won the Russian Civil War, the result was going to be rivers of blood. As a point of comparison, the Red Terror in Hungary killed about 600 people while the following White Terror killed 1,000. It seems that the group that wins the struggle inevitably racks up the biggest body count consolidating it's control. Sorry, but there are NO GOOD GUYS here.

You are crazy

@@AntonioLopez8888 You just proved my point.

@@AntonioLopez8888 That is not a very good argument, for the case Eero described here actually happened and it almost caused extinction of Finns in some areas of Finnish side of Swedish Empire.