The really annoying part about the Nintendo Dripfeed™is that, like, it works for Splatoon or Smash Bros., because a Shooter needs constant updates to stay relevant, and a common addage is "a fighting game's last patch is its funeral." But Nintendo just adding more characters to their sports games, is, like... You can play golf with two stick figures and be functionally the same.
I played Sports Mix so much growing up and honestly I kinda just have a soft spot for it. It’s not the best game but it’s just so fun with some friends and some of the Square Enix nonsense in it is just so… perfectly charming, you know?
This game is my childhood and I love it. I love the single player mode too! And that final boss was top tier, it was so weird that actually worked for me xD ! The more weird Nintendo game is the more I like it. That's why I have a problem with the newest Nintendo games. They making them realistic and less goofy 😞 But it's just my opinion.
Honestly... This might be my favourite Mario Sports game of all time. And I nearly only played Volleyball with Waluigi and Bowser Jr. I am ashamed at how many hours I sunk into that one, ever since I was 10 years old.
Some of these games have always stuck around with me simply because of some of the interesting trivia behind them. For instance, Super Sluggers was actually the very last game that King K. Rool made a proper appearance in up until he made his playable debut in Super Smash Bros Ultimate. And Mario Sports Mix actually has a fully made model in the game's files for a Bahamut boss fight that ultimately went unused. That especially is something I would've loved to see in action.
11:47 Never knew Antdude watched Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. 👍 Fun Fact: Mario Power Tennis marked the first time Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong got their current voices. Interestingly, even with that in mind, sometimes Grant Kirkhope and Chris Sutherland’s voices for the duo are still used occasionally. Another Fun Fact: One of the composers of Mario Hoops: 3 on 3 would end up as a composer for Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. I’m serious. 👍
@@turretboi they are human. The explanation for the new donk thing was a simple "there are different looking ppl in our world, so why not?". And I mean... Yeah, why not? Though it makes me wonder why folks roast the Camelot sports characters still even after New Donkians showed us what it was like to have Mario stand next to actual normies.
I am so happy that not only someone, but Antdude decided to actually talk about the Mario Baseball games. The two baseball games are easily my favorite of the sports games, and everyone treats them as if they don’t exist. Everyone talks about the Tennis, Golf, and Strikers games, and that’s it. I am really hoping that after Battle League, people will speak out and we get a third Mario Baseball game.
I know Akshon did a video on the OG sluggers and on how MASSIVELY deep the game is in just trying to pair up characters. Which gives off a lot of pros and cons in a team comp. And that a small group have been pushing the game to its limits as they try to make it an esport.
They're not just responsible for the personality of Waluigi, they're responsible for his very existence. If that's a positive or negative depends on your point of view.
7:24 that "some reason" is an old webcomic called brawl in the family, where every april fools comic he would take over and say his signature "too bad, waluigi time" It was very popular at the time, but is way less impactful now that it ended, but the internet has never forgotten the waluigi-shaped hole in the wall that brawl in the family has left. Anyone reading this should go check it out, skip to strip 51 for waluigi, if you really want to see him
Also, Waluigi never did say "Too bad, Waluigi time!" That was entirely made up for Brawl in the Family. Just "Waluigi time!" is the closest thing he did say.
Antdude: "Shoutout to the fantastic trophy animations..." Also Antdude: *Only shows Luigi's trophy scene where Mario treats him like shit* Me: Love it XD
I just wanna say, there is something about the Mario spinoffs on Gamecube and the way they look that no matter how amazing and advanced technology gets and how amazing looking we can make the graphics, nothing will ever look quite like the Mario spinoff entries on Gamecube, i cannot find the words, i just like how they look so much.
I think part of it is _because_ of being on the gamecube. Early mid 2000s renders of mario characters hits a specific midlle point between the chonky models of the 90s and the high definition models of today. The combination of the lighting and rendering of that era is not easily replicated
Super Sluggers is honestly one of my favorite Mario Sport games, the story mode is just so cool, and the gameplay itself is very fun as well. also, I do get that Tennis Aces is a bit lackluster, but honestly, I've had the most fun playing that locally with friends than with most other switch games i own, it is pretty solid on that regard.
honestly thank you for highlighting the amazing positives of mario golf world tour. it would be really cool if you made a video doing an in-depth retrospective of that game like you've done with other games
World Tour was a beautiful tease, like Camelot was blatantly mocking us, we know this is the kind of game you want us to release every time, and we can still do that as evidence by this great game, but this is also the last of our games truly like this.
I love how Strikers Charged looks. Looks like Mario and company are going to war. That's what I feel is missing in the screenshots and trailers of Battle League and it feels pretty tame in comparison.
I’ve barely played Mario Sports games so I don’t know what’s so fun about them but thanks for making this video to make me realize that there’s so many Mario Sports game whether they are quality or not, but there’s so many to play (especially the Olympics game happening every 4-5 years).
I ADORE Mario Sports Mix, that was my Wii favorite game! It was so much fun! I know it’s a bit boring on the story mode end but I dunno, I just couldn’t stop playing haha
I actually love Mario Tennis Open. It had a lot of cool courts, minigames, a decent character roster, and Mii customization. Oh yeah, and that’s another thing, this is one of the few Mario Sports games where you can play as your Mii.
By the way, there's a pretty big competitive scene for Mario Superstar Baseball (the GameCube one). They've modded online play into the game and have a whole ladder system. Check out the Dinger City YT channel if you want to know more!
I love how they went from only the human girls wearing sport outfits to every human-type character to wear sports outfits. Also, time for a fun fact! During the develoment of Mario Tennis (N64), alongside Waluigi, Camelot wanted it to a created a character name Warupeachie to be Peach's rival. But that got scrapped because Shigeru Miyamoto thought she would look to hideous. EDIT: NOOOOOO!!!! The bots spawned my comment!! EDIT 2: YAAAAYYY!!! The bot is gone!!
Mario Sports Superstars actually had it to where Camelot only did Golf and Tennis, Bandai Namco came back to do baseball and the other two modes, Camelot didn’t do the whole game
To be accurate, it's a Bandai Namco led project that called in Camelot to do the Golf and Tennis modes. It's basically what the Smash team did inbetween games.
Mario Hoops 3 on 3 is underrated, the character roster is good and they even made the Final Fantasy characters look like Mario Characters basicaly only White Mage, also once you get down the road the point system that you used is just gonna get bad because the other team is gonna keep stealing your ball and making scores.
As someone who grew up with Mario Tennis Open I agree it is worse than other entries in the series but it wasn’t all bad. The tournament mode was fun and the cpus were very challenging on the higher difficulty’s. The majority of the fun from the gameplay itself comes from blocking your opponents super shots and setting up your own so it did feel like more of a necessary shot every time than an optional gimmick. There were also QR code’s you could scan to get all different color yoshi and metal Mario which was cool, plus the customization and playing as your mii was very enjoyable
It's a shame how soulless and sterile they've become, not even talking about GCN vs Switch, even between 3DS and Switch especially comparing victory/losing animations in Mario Golf 3DS and Switch.
Nothing can ever top the presentation of the GameCube Mario Tennis and Golf titles. Especially the opening cinematics I will hear no arguments saying otherwise
You know there's an entire plot twist, that Daisy could be the final boss in the story mode, of the new strikers game! Which means I expect to see a whole new set of Internet clips of" you didn't see it coming!"
Can we all agree that it's extremely dumb that none of the characters unique to the multiple RPG subseries like Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario basically never showed up in these even before the alleged seemingly-designed-to-spite-the-RPG-fans branding-mandates that they shoved in? Because that's always been super egregious and bad in my eyes. It's even moreso wrt the Square-Enix developed Mario Sports games because, like... Squeenix's been sitting on the rights to the Mario RPG characters for over a decade! They had two stinking games to do it, it would have been the perfect time to bring them back, and they just didn't! Why?!
On top of that, when Dry Bowser debuted in New Super Mario Bros, he was literally just Bowser with his flesh burned off. And in Mario Party Island Tour, he's apparently a close family friend, according to Bowser. Why should something like death be looked at as a restriction to leave characters out, when this universe rarely makes any actual sense in general, and just does whatever it wants?
Me at like 10 years old or something saying that Mario Sports Mix was like my 2nd favourite game ever, that game was a banger. I'll probably end up playing it for the next week or so now that I'm reminded.
I know people say this a lot but this is actually the fastest I've clicked been hyped af for Mayrio month. This is also a topic I've really been wanting you to cover I've been playing gbc tennis lately on the 3ds and it's so unique and well just fun
I'll never forget my first experience with Mario Sports Superstars where I was so ready for another Strikers that I got the game, booted up Soccer and immediately tried to tackle the ball carrier. It all went downhill after I saw "FOUL" on my screen.
I have mad respect for you for giving World Tour it's due. Not only is it my favourite golf game, but I would have to say that it ranks up there in my favourite games of all time. Not enough love is ever given to it, and the general consensus is that it's just an okay game. I was expecting you to go down that route, but you proved me wrong, and I couldn't be happier.
Antdude: "we dont want Sports games with Mario in them, we want Mario games with Sports in them, if that makes any sense." Me: as a matter of fact it does, in fact that may be why it's so successful for Mario to be in other game types, cause they build them to be like a Mario game and not just a regular, uninspired money making ploy. EDIT: oof... guess there was some games like that... i didnt know.
The thing is that it's always been very variable. Like Mario Tennis 64, Golf 64 and Toadstool Tour for example are very much just Mario characters playing the sports instead of a sport with a Mario Spin. Meanwhile we have stuff like Power Tennis, Aces, the Strikers games and so on that put a heavy Mario spin on it.
There's something that Mario strikers charge have that Ant didn't said EVERYONE HAVE THEIR OWN MUSIC THEMES Luigi's have one of the best themes in that game
Mario Strikers Charged is easily my favorite of the bunch. Each game felt so intense, and the dynamic stadiums - especially Crystal Palace and Thunder Island - made an already chaotic game even more crazy. I don’t know if a game will ever again capture the feeling of scoring a goal from half field while you’re down 3 players to 1 and a huge cheep-cheep is blowing across the field.
As a... Penguins fan, I'm intrigued that it all started with a hockey game. I'm sure it's no NHL 94 but that's just a cool novelty tbh And then they put it in Mario Sports mix to a resounding... "what". So, yes the debate can be put to bed, Sports Mix is a top 10 hockey game on the Wii. Maybe.
Tennis Aces is truly underrated imo. The gameplay is great and It actually feels like the updates made the game a lot better, unlike some other games that use the drip-feed model.
I don't think the Mega Strikes in Charged ruin the game to the point that the GameCube entry is superior, Charged is just such a massive improvement in every other way, especially when you start learning advanced moves using the chip button.
Awwwww man, I LOVED the single player mode in Super Sluggers! I have really fond memories of staying up late with my mom trying to find and figure out all the little puzzles to recruit every character. It even has a cutscene at the end where Bowser saves Mario’s life!
I actually went into a bit of a rabbit hole with the Hot Shots Golf games recently, and learned some interesting stuff. A.)It is called "Everybody's Golf" in other parts of the world B.) It was picked up by a company called "Clap Hanz" after the first one and the series was still published by Sony since they apparently wanted a golf game on their console that badly C.) This series is almost the only thing that Clap Hanz has ever worked on, with Everybody's Golf 2 being their first game ever D.) This series has seen a bunch of guest characters, including, but not limited to, Jak, Daxter, Ratchet, Clank, Pac Man, Gex, Kazuma Kiryu from Yakuza, Sweet Tooth from Twisted Metal, and the thing that got me into this rabbit hole to begin with, Kratos from God of War still voiced by the original VA, Terrence Carson. So yeah, the series that Camelot left behind is... an interesting one.
You can't forget Golf on the Game Boy either. It legitimately does star Mario in it unlike the NES one. World Tour and Power Tennis honestly were top tier. The more recent stuff has a decent amount of content but lack side modes and the base games at launch were pretty anemic of content. Post-launch support should be a big game getting even more content, not a small game getting completed. The sports RPG games on the portables were so good, too.
Honestly, I loved the handheld Mario Golf/Tennis games. Sure, you could argue they were "Mario in name only" since they mostly starred original characters, but it was great getting to level up your characters, and then sending them off to the console version of the game to play as them in 3D! (with the sad exception of Power Tennis) I really wish that Camelot would make another one, but I guess the mandates on Paper Mario also affected these two... While they might not be the greatest Mario characters, I liked the original characters in Mario Tennis: Power Tour. Sure, the Junior/Senior characters get quickly outclassed, but they do have their fans here and there. Still hoping for Plum, Charlie, Sonny, Maple, and Harry to return one day. Kind of felt like they were made to help expand the Mario roster a little - kind of like how Waluigi was made to be a partner for Wario - yet it's weird that all of them only made one appearance before disappearing forever. (Well, Plum did appear in Mario Golf GBC, but only if you selected Dictionary from the options menu.) You can't tell me it wouldn't be better seeing Plum and her friends in Mario Kart 8 instead of Mario and Peach variants like Pink Gold Peach and Racoon Mario. I also thought you weren't going to talk about Mobile Golf, let alone the recent fan-translation it got! Honestly, I wasn't expecting that game to ever get translated, but it makes me happy to know that it did. (especially after pouring my time into it to rip some of the sprites and graphics from the game)
3 on 3 hoops and strikers charge was my favorite sport since I never got the chance to try gamecube and 64. Never got any other sport on the wii or tried any golf game. Some do sound like fun and I like to try them sometimes.
Dodgeball was the best (and only good) part of Sports Mix. It deserves to be its own game especially If they applied what they’ve done with Strikers Battle League to it.
Mario Tennis Open imo is one of the best Mario Sports games of the wii to 3ds era from what cool stuff they had like unlockable metal mario, galaxy content, a mode where you play through the a whole world of the og SMB game from NES, plus the lauch party, BOY THE LAUNCH PARTY I TELL YA, IT WAS AMAZING HOW THEY DID THE LAUNCH PARTY DURING THE TIME A REAL LIFE TENNIS OPEN WAS HAPPENING. Idc what anyone says this will be my most favorite tennis game ever
That Mario voice clip from “10-15 years ago” is actually from Superstar Saga. I’d know any voice clips from that game that weren’t already reused from 64 or Sunshine anywhere.
Another thing about Mobile Golf is that FOREMAN SPIKE was in it for some reason, and it's his best design out of any of his appearances. He's also turned over a new leaf and no longer is a bad guy, which is awesome.
Mario Superstar Baseball is one of my favorite GameCube games ever, I have such great memories playing it with my brother. He somehow convinced me that in order to catch the ball you had to avoid the glowing circle to catch it....I figured it out eventually
7:28 "Honestly I never really got the massive appeal, I apologize to the Waluigi fanbase out there" 32:08 "Waluigi does crotch chops" I feel like it's quite obvious
Not lying in the slightest, Mario Sports Mix is one of my favorite games of all time. Mostly because its through the nostalgia goggles of a decade ago, but I still have fun with it today. Honestly, the single player mode in the game is pretty fun to me, especially because Ant didnt mention that you can (literally) go off of the bracket in the single player mode and do a whole lot of side missions instead. Plus the inclusion of Final Fantasy characters and the BOSS that is King Behemoth was always so cool and weird and I loved it. White Mage and Black Mage are OP and its amazing. Also Cactuar having the only stat in the game to go into the red with his speed stat is amazing.