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The Wii Fit impossibility 

Lateral with Tom Scott
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'Karen Puzzles' Kavett, Rebecca 'Dr Becky' Smethurst and Stuart 'Ashens' Ashen face question about a mysteriously missing assistant.
LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcas...
GUESTS:
Karen Kavett: ‪@KarenPuzzles‬, / karenpuzzles
Becky Smethurst: ‪@DrBecky‬, / drbecky_
Stuart Ashen: ‪@ashens‬, / ashens
HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
EDITED BY: Julie Hassett at The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
QUESTION: Soos.
FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
© Pad 26 Limited (www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2023.

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@JennaGetsCreative
@JennaGetsCreative Год назад
I'd say Tom is right, they just didn't want to code the exception.
@egerlachca
@egerlachca Год назад
Even more specific: I'd bet that they realized it really close to shipping and didn't have time to code an exception other than just a single flag to prevent the summon.
@SJohann
@SJohann Год назад
If you hack the game and spawn Alucard in there, he has a reflection, so it is correct.
@fonesrphunny7242
@fonesrphunny7242 Год назад
"Render this object, but not its reflection" is a somewhat common flag in 3D engines, so I'm not sure it was some sort of code or time limitation. On the other hand: Mirrors -> Silver coating -> Vampire. Maybe they just payed attention to this little detail, so the exception wasn't needed. And as someone else pointed out: he does have reflection elsewhere, just not in (silver coated) mirrors.
@VonOzbourne
@VonOzbourne Год назад
Had he been more familiar, I was thinking that he was going to mention Wario, being that he didn't want to set foot in a fitness centre.
@Squant
@Squant Год назад
It would be strange if true, given the famously insane level of detail that goes into Smash games. If you ever want to see dozens upon dozens of one off exceptions made for the smallest, most barely noticeable details, you should probably look at Smash Ultimate.
@hairyneil
@hairyneil Год назад
As ever, mega props to the person/people doing subs and colour coding by the person talking. Super duper helpful!
@lateralcast
@lateralcast Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@thinkEdem
@thinkEdem Год назад
@@lateralcast For me not being a native English speaker, sometimes that's the only way I can understand everything being said...
@cheetahman79
@cheetahman79 11 месяцев назад
@@thinkEdemme too but I am a native English speaker
@dcltdw
@dcltdw Год назад
I love how Karen was like "...wut" for most of this, but then swoops in suddenly with the key bit. :)
@IonutLala
@IonutLala Год назад
Browser is definitely the best Mario character.
@UltramasterBDJ
@UltramasterBDJ Год назад
Yeah! And Mario can beat him when he turns into a fire fox! (-:
@NeUrOmAnCeRAI
@NeUrOmAnCeRAI Год назад
As long as it's Edge and not Chrome.
@Tredenix
@Tredenix Год назад
@@NeUrOmAnCeRAI I think you'll find that Chrom is his own distinct Smash character.
@johnpaulcawley4079
@johnpaulcawley4079 Год назад
Duck duck go kart
@yyyyymmoT
@yyyyymmoT Год назад
Browser definitely has his shell to protect himself from viruses
@Knyex
@Knyex Год назад
Alucard is not the only character that can't be summoned in Wii Fit Studio The Majora's Mask Moon, Andros, the Squid Sisters, Nikki, the girl from Fatal Frame all cannot be summoned in Wii Fit Studio If we count pokéball summons, you also can't summon Lugia and Lunala (they cannot appear in any indoor stages) nor Abra (cannot be summoned in walkoff stages)
@astra1288
@astra1288 Год назад
as a smash player, i would say a majority of smash players dont know this trivia bit so them struggling was very funny but also i totally get it
@JanTuts
@JanTuts Год назад
SPOILER WARNING 6:10 (and more specifically 6:16) Depending on the lore, vampires CAN have reflections (e.g. on a polished floor, a puddle, etc), just not in MIRRORS, because mirrors used to be made with SILVER-coated glass (nowadays it's aluminium), and it's that silver that won't reflect them, or causes them discomfort/harm. Though this also means that such a vampire actually wouldn't have any issues with using modern mirrors. :)
@waywornwyrm8135
@waywornwyrm8135 Год назад
That is also why vampires won't show up in photographs. Early photographs invovled silver in the processing, I don't remember which part, so vampires won't appear in a photograph.
@Crlarl
@Crlarl Год назад
@@waywornwyrm8135 Basically all film and plate photography would be out. Electronic photography would be fine, so vidicon, CCD, CMOS.
@xureality
@xureality Год назад
@@waywornwyrm8135 all film photography, in fact. The active ingredient being halides of silver (early on on silver nitrate, but nowadays typically silver bromide, silver iodide or silver chloride). Colour films uses the same process, but the silver halides will be replaced by dyes after development.
@Aoderic
@Aoderic Год назад
In several vampire movies, they make the mistake of having vampires eat from silverware 😂
@thinkEdem
@thinkEdem Год назад
Came here to say this. :D
@Thoughtsmith
@Thoughtsmith Год назад
"You're asking a bunch of nerds a video games question" ...yes?
@DukeDukeGo
@DukeDukeGo Год назад
Not having a reflection isn't actually traditional vampire lore, it's more to do with the silver that was used for mirrors, so a reflection in water and modern mirrors is possible
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner Год назад
So the question is, is that the reasoning behind cameras too and, as such, are CCDs not affected?
@timothymclean
@timothymclean Год назад
Well, the reason that silver was anathema to vampires has to do with its purity, and water (particularly running water) is another widespread symbol of purity. In fact, it's even one which some vampires have a weakness to! Aluminum-based mirrors should be fine, though.
@toonpik7
@toonpik7 Год назад
Maybe the Wii Fit Studio is just ballin like that
@panda4247
@panda4247 Год назад
Regarding vamps and water, they can't cross rivers according to the lore
@disaidra
@disaidra Год назад
The Super Relevant Bros joke sounds like something straight out of a tech diffs episode
@Yash1331
@Yash1331 Год назад
I would've awarded mystery biscuits for that tbh.
@Pikachu0071000CS
@Pikachu0071000CS Год назад
Well, they had "Super Lehmann Brothers" as an award once
@NeichoKijimura
@NeichoKijimura Год назад
As a Smash GEEK, I got this before the question was even finished. I should get a life
@christafranken9170
@christafranken9170 Год назад
Why? This sounds like you are doing great in life
@thumper5555
@thumper5555 Год назад
There are mushrooms for that.
@NeichoKijimura
@NeichoKijimura Год назад
@@thumper5555 ?
@thumper5555
@thumper5555 Год назад
@@NeichoKijimura a 1 up mushroom gives you +1 life. That's how you get a life
@NeichoKijimura
@NeichoKijimura Год назад
@@thumper5555 No they don't, depending on colour and face. They make you shrink or grow :)
@Showsni
@Showsni Год назад
I was thinking Andross, as he wouldn't be able to do his usual shoot from the background thing with the back wall in the way; and it seems yes, Andross also can't be summoned in Wii Fit Studio. Apparently there are actually eight Assist Trophies and three Pokéball Pokémon that can't be summoned in Wii Fit Studio.
@Just.Kidding
@Just.Kidding Год назад
I'm guessing having two of those Pokémon + Assist trophies would just _tank_ the framerate. Sort of like using multiple icies on fountain of dreams, especially on the 3ds.
@samuelturner6076
@samuelturner6076 Год назад
Same! Alucard brushed my mind at the start for absolutely no reason (probably because I’ve heard this trivia before) but the whole time I was stuck on Andros because the wall is very up close.
@cdscissor
@cdscissor Год назад
2:33 "Is Sonic... Nintendo?" This is insulting in so many levels.
@mchammer5026
@mchammer5026 Год назад
did rebecca call him "browser"? lol
@myladycasagrande863
@myladycasagrande863 Год назад
Yup....
@Saluno375
@Saluno375 4 месяца назад
In the same game as Firefox. ;)
@Chubby_Bub
@Chubby_Bub Год назад
There are a few other assist trophies that aren't allowed in to appear on Wii Fit Studio, but they all have technical reasons for doing so. This appears to be the only one that is intentionally done as a lore reference.
@phineas81707
@phineas81707 Год назад
I think most of such Assist Trophies are actually not allowed on *many* stages with a prominent background feature that would interfere with their function or animations. The full list, according to Smash wiki, is the Moon from Majora's Mask, Nightmare, Andross, Devil, Nikki, Yuri Kozkata, the Squid Sisters, Lugia and Lunala. Abra is also missing, but that's mostly because Abra only works on stages you can fall off and you can't fall off in the Studio.
@thumper5555
@thumper5555 Год назад
​@@phineas81707 what about Abra on stages like Bridge of Eldin where it's only sometimes possible to fall off?
@m4rcyonstation93
@m4rcyonstation93 Год назад
God its so funny seeing how everyones thought of “wii fit studio” differs from the actual stage which is basically blank
@teeweezeven
@teeweezeven Год назад
They didn't even mention Alucard is Dracula backwards lol
@JazzTheLass
@JazzTheLass Год назад
tbf i knew the answer and i only realised that now 😭
@zOOpygOOpert
@zOOpygOOpert Год назад
It's weird knowing more about a subject than Tom Scott
@coyraig8332
@coyraig8332 Год назад
I love Tom Scott's normal stuff but it's hilarious seeing people get asked questions with nothing to do with their expertise
@finlandtaipan4454
@finlandtaipan4454 Год назад
LOL I usually skip these trivia bits but I had to watch this one immediately because it features my favorites Becky and Karen!
@ZimbabweanBugbite
@ZimbabweanBugbite Год назад
Remember kids, Browser can only be defeated when mario becomes a fire fox
@lightningwingdragon973
@lightningwingdragon973 Год назад
Vampires and Werewolves have similar issues with silver. But not in the way you think. Historically, mirrors were backed with silver!
@JACKHARRINGTON
@JACKHARRINGTON Год назад
I was thinking a technical reason, but more along the lines of 'too big'. So I was thinking Dr Kawashima. It's good to see the designers not change the mirror rendering because in perspective, which is a game of well over 100 characters, omitting one from one stage makes more sense.
@Just.Kidding
@Just.Kidding Год назад
There isn't over 100 characters, there are 89. Your point still stands, though there are, in total, around a dozen (iirc) different assist trophies and Pokémon that aren't available.
@markblacket8900
@markblacket8900 Год назад
a couple things not mentioned in the video: Alucard is Dracula's name in reverse and he first appeared in one of the black-and-white Universal monster movies
@OlleLindestad
@OlleLindestad Год назад
I have logged more hours in Smash Bros Utimate than any other game, and I had absolutely no idea about this. This is a truly bonkers question to ask in a quiz show.
@Klearith
@Klearith Год назад
Loved Nintendo's attention to detail regarding this subject!
@necieau2700
@necieau2700 Год назад
I love watching these clips twice so I can feel like a know it all the second time around
@TheTechDweller
@TheTechDweller Год назад
Surprised they didn't mention "Alucard" Is just "Dracula" backwards.
@Seruphin
@Seruphin Год назад
Tom was right when he said the summons are not the actual main characters, they are called Assist trophies, there is 27 of them and they are lesser known characters from a wide range of games, so that makes this question diabolically hard. I didn't know the answer and I have many many hours in all smash bros games. Once he said the wall thing I assumed a Casltevania vampire.
@PsychoSoldier01
@PsychoSoldier01 Год назад
there are 59 assist trophies
@LuckStarPlays
@LuckStarPlays Год назад
I was going threw my head of which assist trophy can't be summoned on the Wii Fit Studio stage and I kept second guessing my self a few time!
@thatevlcanadian
@thatevlcanadian Год назад
I temporarily forgot about the Smash Trophies and thought it was Wii Fit trainer because that is where they work lol
@vamp28k
@vamp28k Год назад
As a witness to Sakurai's obsessive attention to detail, if true, this goes in a very small box of things they didn't want to do
@KufLMAO
@KufLMAO Год назад
BROWSER LMAOOOOO
@Chocomint_Queen
@Chocomint_Queen Год назад
You know, I didn't know this, but as soon as he told us to think about what's in a gym, I realized who it must be. Ashen's pretty good at hints.
@munjee2
@munjee2 Год назад
Even if they had reflections I wouldn't want to be in the same room as thin glass that can easily shatter covered with one of the two things that can kill me
@TheScarvig
@TheScarvig Год назад
i think you are mixing up vampires and werewolves. to my knowledge silver itself does nothing to a vampire. its silver bullets that kill werewolves and crosses often just happen to be made of silver, but its the holy symbol of the cross that hurts the vampire. a wooden one works just fine. although the reason they dont reflect in mirrors is indeed that silver is considered a "holy" metal (therefore able to kill a werewolf if used as a bullet) which refuses to show the image of a vampire and old mirrors were made by coating the back of a glass pane with silver.
@munjee2
@munjee2 Год назад
@@TheScarvig really? I thought the whole reason they didn't have reflections was because they were weak to silver
@dixoncider8372
@dixoncider8372 Год назад
I played Ultimate... but I guess not that much because I was still stumped
@pallasproserpina4118
@pallasproserpina4118 19 дней назад
1:25 "browser" has me dead
@lucbloom
@lucbloom Год назад
And then we had an episode of “Uhm, actually” instead :-) I mean, I like videogames too, but this trivia-based question is not what I’d expected.
@rodrikforrester6989
@rodrikforrester6989 Год назад
el-you-card
@miblik
@miblik Год назад
Browser
@cybergeek11235
@cybergeek11235 Год назад
@@miblik Mary-o
@zach.0
@zach.0 Год назад
"Merryo" "Toad! Yawshi! Browser! Peach!"
@irakyl
@irakyl Год назад
I actually guessed the character from the silhouette in the thumbnail, but I couldn't guess the reason why until 5:15...
@burnttoast0482
@burnttoast0482 Год назад
this was the first one i knew, and there are more than one character that cannot be summoned on that stage. many stages have characters that cannot be summoned.
@lucbloom
@lucbloom Год назад
I thought the answer was going to be “the wii fit balance board”. On the account of already being in the scene background. I remember that being a character in Smash at a certain point…
@patrickfuller2423
@patrickfuller2423 Год назад
Karen nailed it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ids1024
@ids1024 Год назад
I like how they're all stumped since none of them are familiar with video games *or* gyms.
@spacewarpphotography1667
@spacewarpphotography1667 Год назад
I thought it was going to be ironic, and Wii Fit Trainer couldn't be summoned.
@itsybutsy
@itsybutsy 11 месяцев назад
"Toad, Yoshi, Browser" Ah yes, google chrome, my favorite mario character
@user-jn4sw3iw4h
@user-jn4sw3iw4h Месяц назад
5:00 I would consider it pretty relevant whether the character we're looking for is - a fighter/playable character - or a support-trophy summon It might not matter for the reasoning behind it, but it greatly narrows down the list of suspects.
@somegoof2445
@somegoof2445 Год назад
I don't like the phrase "couldn't be bothered" in this scenario, because that implies they just didn't want to. Ultimate had a very tight turnaround, so if this wasn't noticed until the end of development, it'd be much simpler to use the flag to remove an assist from the pool that they already had for the moon from Majora's Mask
@paxwort
@paxwort Год назад
I'd honestly have guessed the wii fit trainer, like maybe they're in the background doing a thing
@phineas81707
@phineas81707 Год назад
I'm not sure about Assist characters, but the Wii Fit Trainer is a selectable character, and the game's philosophy about such conflicts is to replace *the background element* if the character is chosen. (The funniest example at the time it was announced was Spirit Train, which is normally driven by Toon Link, but if you're playing as *any* of the game's Links, the conductor will be replaced by Alfonzo instead. This is in spite of the fact that no playable Links are the same individual as the Link that drives trains.)
@thomaswhite3059
@thomaswhite3059 27 дней назад
Remember when Patrick Stewart told Harry Potter to activate the flux capacitor?
@arcanics1971
@arcanics1971 Год назад
As Tom is a Game Boy, he should be put in a Game Cube as punishment for not knowing about 2002 consoles.
@TrainBoi227
@TrainBoi227 9 месяцев назад
I knew it was Alucard from probably 30 seconds in lol
@ankitsonariya918
@ankitsonariya918 4 месяца назад
Becky is here. Tom keeps making me want to be in his friend circle
@julianasmit3407
@julianasmit3407 8 месяцев назад
I cannot believe Karen got that
@emptyptr9401
@emptyptr9401 Год назад
Me being very confused until I realized they were talking about help-trothpies halfway through xd
@mat_tamarin
@mat_tamarin Год назад
Wow, never would have got that.
@GrumpyTy34er
@GrumpyTy34er 11 месяцев назад
Worth mentioning that vampires couldn't be seen in mirrors because they were originally made of silver. Also the reason they couldn't be seen in film based cameras (a silver compound is used to develop the photos).
@Jixxor
@Jixxor Год назад
I understand why he chooses to go by the name Alucard lmao
@MercenaryPen
@MercenaryPen Год назад
everyone knows that Patrick Stewart played Captain Jack Harkness :P
@outsideaglass
@outsideaglass 7 месяцев назад
It didn't annoy me more as y'all went on with games and actor/pop culture references you didn't know! Just hilarious to hear other people with similar struggles I've had, lol. Great to listen to!
@hannahk1306
@hannahk1306 4 месяца назад
My first thought was Snorlax, because he'd just be having a nap instead of going to the gym. Also, I think the games console Tom was talking about was the GameCube. I thought it was released earlier, but given that the Wii was definitely later than 2002 it must have been the GameCube, unless they're including handheld consoles which I'm less familiar with (think that's pre Nintendo DS though, so could be GBA?. Ok, I just looked it up and I think Tom may have got the year wrong (or it had a staggered release and the question was about a particular country/region), because (according to Wikipedia) both GameCube and GBA were released in 2001 and then the next console was the DS in 2004, followed by the Wii in 2006.
@ifitsrusteditsmine
@ifitsrusteditsmine Год назад
What? Ashens? Wow.
@JohnDoe-tx8lq
@JohnDoe-tx8lq Год назад
Having being a 70's teenager and never played any game console, I understood about 13% of that. I've heard of vampires and I once went to a gym. 😄
@NichtcrawlerX
@NichtcrawlerX Год назад
You "know" Super Smash Bros is a "Fighting" Game? You want to unleash an internet war?
@MsDaphne13
@MsDaphne13 Год назад
I thought Wario, why would he ever set foot in a gym.
@69cnielsen
@69cnielsen Год назад
1:25 Did she just call Bowser Browser?
@bpmcd1980
@bpmcd1980 10 месяцев назад
No discussion on Dracula’s son having his name spelt backwards? Alucard
@evernewb2073
@evernewb2073 Год назад
"you wanna finght a baby!" -looks at Kirby no, no I do *NOT* want to fight a baby seriously though I had no idea on this one even after "think of the walls of the gym" bit since it's not like you're viewing the stage through a mirror...right? my least nonsensical guess was that the nintendo mii avatar characters aren't allowed in there for some reason since they're the only other thing in the SSB series related to WiiFit ...weird answer though: even after hearing mirrors somehow equals no vampires _was_ the thing I just assumed there was a vampire on the cast that I don't know about since alucard doesn't have to deal with most of the vampire nonsense rules what with him _not being a vampire_ heck, in some of the stuff they have written involving him the entire reason for his prettyboybishounen appearance is it's him using being able to take care of his own appearance instead of having to summon a damned demon to do his makeup as a way for him to harass his dad.
@pyglik2296
@pyglik2296 Год назад
As someone who only knows that one of the characters in Super Smash Bros is Sans Undertale, I was as lost as them.
@edwardrocca
@edwardrocca Год назад
Why are there spoiler alerts in the comments section for fun facts that aren't spoilers haha
@bwalko5674
@bwalko5674 Год назад
I believe the reason vampires can't be seen in mirrors is because they used to be made with silver.
@Geneolgia
@Geneolgia Год назад
I can assure this is a very obscure fact about Smash Bros, even most fans don't know the answer, I have only heard about it once and completely forgot about it until this video was recommended to me.
@samuelturner6076
@samuelturner6076 Год назад
As a massive smash fan and gamer in general even I didn’t get this one. The character brushed my mind at the start for no reason (I have possibly heard this trivia before EDIT: or it could’ve been the thumbnail) but the whole time I was stuck on Andros. Thanks to the comments I know I was sorta right, since multiple assist characters including Andros can’t be summoned to when playing on Wii Fit Studio.
@jamespusey7186
@jamespusey7186 4 месяца назад
adrian farenheit tepez gotta be the goofiest name
@devilishjester7718
@devilishjester7718 Год назад
I'm a bit surprised that i knew this one off of the top of my head, guess wasting many hours a day watching trivia videos does pay off.
@clockoclock4
@clockoclock4 Год назад
The game cube was released before 2002 it was 2001
@muppetpaster
@muppetpaster Год назад
Adorian Fārenhaitsu Tsepeshu
@punksci6879
@punksci6879 9 месяцев назад
Is that the "square hole" meme person?
@joelvenga
@joelvenga Год назад
yay
@The4No
@The4No Год назад
... Browser?
@TheDisplacerBeast
@TheDisplacerBeast Год назад
Damnit, i know this one. Alucard innit. Mirror and all.
@blubba818
@blubba818 7 месяцев назад
Poor UK… got the GameCube in 2002.
@yaxasuzu
@yaxasuzu Год назад
"Mare-e-oh." "Browser." ffs.
@von...
@von... Год назад
Mayreo
@Fanuc_Operator1990
@Fanuc_Operator1990 Год назад
Also Alucard is just Dracula backwards lol. Meaning he is the reverse of dracula I guess?
@ObadiahtheSlim
@ObadiahtheSlim Год назад
There's like 7 or so characters from Assist Trophies (Majora's Mask Moon is one) who cant' be in Wii Fit Studio and like 3 or 4 pokemon. This isnt' a problem unique to Wii Fit Studio.
@Hungryghost01
@Hungryghost01 Год назад
I was thinking yoshi because he can't use any of the machines
@jblen
@jblen 7 месяцев назад
I knew this one, but I don't think it's very fair to ask to anyone that doesn't specifically play smash ultimate. There's so many characters and franchises and just the fact that it's a character from a game 30 years ago that was already the third in the series, they're way too obscure for most people to consider
@willdrug
@willdrug Год назад
tsepesh, not tepes, though
@NockLaumOK
@NockLaumOK Год назад
Ah, the L. U. Card.
@katew5952
@katew5952 Год назад
Browser ❤
@ncl47
@ncl47 Год назад
The console that came out after the Nintendo 64 and before the Wii was the GameCube.
@1992jamo
@1992jamo Год назад
1:22 Doesn't list Mario or Luigi?
@sethapex9670
@sethapex9670 Год назад
Wouldn't the Nintendo platform between the N64 and Wii be the GameCube?
@maluraq
@maluraq Год назад
Is sonic a Nintendo property hurts so much
@LukeGibsonSS
@LukeGibsonSS Год назад
I was guessing Yoshi because he's an animal and they might have a no pets policy in the gym.
@pohjanvanamo
@pohjanvanamo Год назад
This was very amusing 😄 And I'm bad with names, so even that I have played super smash bros (brawl), I couldn't even remember my favourite character at first. I remembered the image, the name took me few minutes, and I'm not 100% even now 😆 Got to go check now 😅
@xyz3524
@xyz3524 Год назад
1:23 Browser
@piratecheese13
@piratecheese13 Год назад
it's ok, sonic is in smash brawl so Becky wasn't far off
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