Excellent. Listening to these teachings has taught me that context is of utmost importance. I think if people just learned to establish context before trying to figure passages out, they’d be much better equipped to interpret correctly. Thanks again Jason
@@davydeuce HAHA! Yes isn't it funny. I too never saw ONE miracle. Not ONE instant healing. Not ONE person speak in tongues. Not ONE thing that even so much as resembled the apostolic work during their mission. But everyone was so sure they were "endued with power from on high baby!" A bunch of delusional peeps playing Israelite games. ;D
Davy, the most exciting part for me was when the head pastor of the church we attended was caught in an affair cheating on his beloved wife. There was also a situation I recall where the news was investigating the head pastor for fraud and some other charges. They actually sent reporter spies into the service with cameras and I remember the holy deacons caught them and escorted them out lol. Good holy type shit going on in all these churches. One of the leaders of Full Preterism, a pastor from Florida, Alan Bondar, was just caught in a big cheating scandal from what I heard. He was boppin one of the gals in the church behind his wife's back. They shit canned him and now it's under new leadership. Guess Christ is still workin on em. He will bring it all to completion at his coming...oh wait, that's way behind us. lol
Jason DeCosta 🤣😂that’s a doozie!🤣🤣🤣😂Oh tell me about it-we also had our fair share of holy bed-hopping!! They could not hold out until the fulfilment of the Age!!🤣🤣😂
@@davydeuce LOL! "Holy bed hopping"...love it. Pastors must be excused when it comes to infidelity. You know what Paul said,....give to pastors what is due to them. Congregation Wives seem to be included!
Jason a very thorough and complete explanation of Paul’s branch analogy. The argument was buried deep in the ground by just laying out the clear details we find elsewhere and showing that for Paul to be speaking of anyone other than lost sheep would be absurd. Well done.
excellent ,explaining how paul speaks of isreal in romans as Judah under the law. not including the ones a far off out in the nations.its all fitting together and becoming clearer and clearer everyday.thx.
Hey Jason. Its me again. That guy whose question you did not answer. I have a new question. Who does the word "their" refer to in Roms 11v12? And who are the rich gentiles in that verse?
Hi! This should give you an idea : The Olive Tree ( the Olive Tree is the camp of the saints ) The saints are the sons of action. It is the oil coming from the olive tree, which sanctifies. The saints feed on the word of God and soak their bread in the oil of the Olive Tree. This oil of the Spirit of Holiness shows them the way to follow and teaches them to walk with God, Source of love and intelligence of a trinitarian nature, the sons of action, who have received the testimony of the truth and who put it into practice are those who are called saints. By the Spirit of Holiness, they are the kings of the earth.
HI Jason. Was talking about this only 2 days ago. How did the wild olive tree get there? The seeds were scattered and grew wild olive trees. Thats how cultivated plants become wild. The trees grew in the wild, over centuries and branches were being taken from them and brought back to the cultivated tree and were grafted in where the cultivated branches once were. Moral of the story of the Olive tree. Then wild olive tree could only come from seeds of the cultivated olive tree.and thats why they could be grafted back in.
Thanks James. We can understand that Paul's mission was to regions far and wide, and that he had to "become all things to all men"...to the jews he was a jew. etc. He was conducting a mission to seek the elect from the 4 winds of the earth. Those elect were scattered everywhere. The final pic is the 12 tribes from all nations standing in heaven rejoicing. They had come from all over. Many nations were blessed. Romans 1:14 would fit into that context.
@@GodlessGubment Yes sir I do believe they are all Israelites far and wide. The gospel mission was to "seek the elect" from the 4 winds of the earth...judea samaria and the far most ends of the earth. Which is what they did by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The story is VERY "ideal" in that everything just works out perfectly. I will share an audio probably tomorrow on that very topic. Coincidentally I had planned to do that. Hopefully you'll check it out.
“I am speaking the truth in Christ-I am not lying; my conscience bears me witness in the Holy Spirit- that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, my kinsmen according to the flesh. They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen. But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring. For this is what the promise said: “About this time next year I will return, and Sarah shall have a son.” And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad-in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls- she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God’s part? By no means! For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory- even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? As indeed he says in Hosea, “Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’ and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’” “And in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’” And Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the sons of Israel be as the sand of the sea, only a remnant of them will be saved, for the Lord will carry out his sentence upon the earth fully and without delay.” And as Isaiah predicted, “If the Lord of hosts had not left us offspring, we would have been like Sodom and become like Gomorrah.” What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, a righteousness that is by faith; but that Israel who pursued a law that would lead to righteousness did not succeed in reaching that law. Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, as it is written, “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense; and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”” Romans 9:1-33 The whole point of this is that Israel believed by works and not by FAITH. This is the circumcision of the heart which cannot be made by man’s hands.
I’m new to learning more about this but I’m stuck on the part where you said that the great multitude from every tribe tongue nation etc are the 144000. I’m confused because the 144000 are from a specific nation and specific tribes but the great multitude are from every nation, tribe etc. Could there be an alternative explanation of Rev 14:3?
@@kirky3051 hello, so the 144k aka the 12 tribes were gathered out from every nation tribe tongue and kindred in the last days gospel mission which was to seek his sheep from the 4 corners of the earth. This is in fulfillment of the many prophecies that predicted that Israel’s descendants would “become a multitude of nations” like Genesis 48 for example We see Paul allude to this in Romans 11 as he says “the fullness of the nations will come in. In this way all Israel will be saved” All Israel aka all the tribes couldn’t be saved until the ones in the nations were restored and reconciled to their God
Read Ephesians chapter 2. Are you really sure you’ve grasped what Paul was explaining regarding the Olive Tree? To rightly divide the Word, we must read all of it in order to understand the fullness. The epistles represent portions of Paul edifying the Body of Christ. We don’t even have all the letters, nor do we have the letters written to him to which his reply gives definition. We therefore, must look at the Written Witness in fullness not in portion. Abraham received the Promise BEFORE circumcision. The Promise that was given to Abraham was for Israel and for those who would be grafted into the Promise given to Abraham. The wall that divided the two people groups was broken down by the Blood of the Lamb. The Olive Tree grows up and receives its nourishment from the ROOTS. The Gospel went out to the house of Israel first and then to the gentile nations-or are we to contrive because the Witness says, “And then the Greek,” that only Jew and Greek can be saved? Of course not! By rightly dividing the Written Witness, examining the Scriptures (what Yeshua states is Scripture,) we can see that we are not deceived to believe that I who am a mixture of the nations and peoples of the world in receiving the Promise am grafted into the same tree from which branches who rejected the Son were cut off-until the time of the Gentiles will be complete. Do we think the roots are Israel? Could Israel plant itself? No. The roots that provide nourishment are of the Messiah-the Word from which all Creation, both seen and unseen, came to be! Both those that grew from the tree after it was planted (the natural) and the wild that are grafted in receive nourishment from the same roots connected to the same trunk. Sum up for me in a sentence or two what you’re trying to prove. Thank you.
late reply here but yes you're correct the promise came way back before Israel, at Abraham. However, it was exclusively for his physical bloodline descendants that would come from his loins and become like the stars of heaven. This was fulfilled 10 times over by none other than the literal bodily 12 tribes of Jacob. Endless scriptural support for that fact. The promise then included that one of the tribes would literally BECOME A FULLNESS OF NATIONS...Ephraim Genesis 48 as well as at the blessing of Rebekeh Genesis 22 or so. The last days is a search and rescue mission for them and them alone. The ethnos (gentiles isn't a biblical period word) meant nations. The gospel would go to all nations surrounding nations of course, for the purpose of gathering the elect of Israel. When the fullness of the nations came in, Ephraim gathered back in that is, the result would be "All Israel saved" Romans 11 To me it's as clear as a crystal whom the NT is seeking.
Once you take off the rose-colored glasses, and become aware of the misleading translations, the story become pretty obvious. In fact, its probably best to go back and reread the whole Bible.
Paul also said that ... All Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews. When the assyrians attacked the northern kingdom of Israel some of the people of the ten tribes seek assylum in the kingdom of judah and it took many years before babylon attacked the kingdom of judah that's why all Jews consist of 12 tribes so the gentiles were not only those 10 tribes but also pagans just like the roman centurion cornelius who was a gentile but not necessarily an israelite. And also the phoenician woman to whom jesus healed her daughter of demonic possession. So when Paul said that not all Israelites are Jews means it not only referred to the 10 lost tribes of israel but also non israelites. When he said all Jews are israelites means all 12 tribes .
Consistent with your teaching, here is an example of Jews being referred to as Israel Rom 11:11 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather, through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. Rom 11:14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them.
You said yourself you know true pagan foreigners could become Israelites. Even if true pagans becoming Israelites was exclusive to bible times, if someone is an Israelite (whether ethnic or joining in the circumcision), do the promises not belong to them? Just want to know your answer on that. So with that in mind, You say only true ethnic Israelites are the only ones who are redeemed among the remnant & that the seed of Abraham was only ethnic israel. Just want to know, how you reconcile this? Romans 9:6-8 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For NOT ALL who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and NOT ALL are children of Abraham BECAUSE THEY ARE HIS OFFSPRING, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.
Corey, where are you getting this from... "You say only true ethnic Israelites are the only ones who are redeemed among the remnant & that the seed of Abraham was only ethnic israel." Where have I EVER said that? :) Never. I've always maintained that salvation was for "ISRAEL" which was a COVENANT term that embodied more than just the ones from the nutsack of Abraham. It also included those who BECAME ISRAELITES by way of circumcision. The Romans 9 passage you quote is simply Paul saying the promise was only to a remnant of Israel. "Not all who descended from Israel belong to Israel"....I've always said that it was to a remnant within the totality of Israel. The elect. The faithful. The "true Israel of God" as Paul called them. He came to his own and his own didn't receive him, but as many (of his own) that did receive him, to them he gave the right... You should go back and listen to more vids if you've missed this. I only mention it nearly every other video. ;)
Jason DeCosta I must’ve misinterpreted a section of this video then, I thought that’s what you were implying in a statement you made. That’s actually why I asked, because I remember the other videos where you said what you’re saying now. My mistake. But thank you for clarifying because that leads me to a better question. Even if the gentiles truly are only dispersed Israelites (which id like more resources on if you have any), why does that mean that true pagans now cannot be involved whatsoever if God allowed it previously?
Corey T with all due respect, this channel that you are visiting, is choc full of resources proving that the elect Gentiles were the scattered Israelites. Over 250 videos worth of proof. That’s all I do here :) Secondly, the problem with your last question is multi faceted... 1) there is no “body of Israelites” here today to join to. That system ended. 2) there is no such thing as “pagans” today. Or “outsiders”. Those terms only work if there is a body of Israelites under the law. Which there Is not. That ended 2000 years ago when the age ended and the temple fell for good. 3) This is the biggest one- the story ends. There is no continuation beyond the coming of the savior for his saints. All Israel was saved which included the full number of the ones living out in the nations (Gentiles)....their savior came for them and took them to heaven. They ascended up into the clouds the same way their savior did. They received the same immortal glorified heavenly angelic body that their savior did. It’s over. It wasn’t a new religion at all. It was a mission. To seek the lost sheep. And it had to be finished and would be finished by the time of his coming, which was the end. Matthew 24:13-14 There is no continuation of the gospel message of Christ beyond the coming. Because he came only for Israel and all Israel was saved by that time.
100% Correct. Now you just need to come to the truth of who the true Israelites are. Remember. Luke 21:24 King James Version 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Therefore those who are in the land today are not Israelites. They are true heathen gentiles.
@Genesis 12:3 = Matthew 25:31-46 Abraham God's Friend Jesus the Christ goats sheep Matthew 6:20-21. (20. But lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven...(21. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. God bless you!!!
Hello. Please answer my question. from my earlier comment. i will repeat it here. Hey Jason. Its me again. That guy whose question you did not answer. I have a new question. Who does the word "their" refer to in Roms 11v12? And who are the rich gentiles in that verse?
They were broken off a wild olive tree. This means they are not part of nor were they ever a part of the natural olive tree. Clearly it says that both natural branches, meaning Israel, and non natural or wild branches are or can be grafted in. Wild olive tree = gentiles from other nations. Natural olive branches = Israelites who were broken off Israel the natural olive tree...including Northern Kingdom or any isralite from one of the 12 tribes.
Incorrect. The proper way to interpret Paul's usage of 2 stick imagery is to allow it to pull from it's original prophetic context in Ezekiel's 2 stick prophecy. The two sticks are clearly defined as Israel and Judah- the two houses of Israel. The "fullness of the nations" that Paul is speaking of in Romans 11 is none other than Ephraim, the northern Kingdom, in fulfillment of Jacob's Genesis 48 promise that Ephraims descendants (literal descendants) would become a "fullness of nations" The prophetic backdrop is all there. When one follows that trajectory forward he cannot arrive anywhere other than IO.
@@jasondecosta2349 I agree with Ephraim being part of the fullness of the gentiles as Jacob prophecied and the important role Ephraim playes. The thing is Ephraim is a natural branch that was broken off, not a wild olive branch. When branches are grafted in there are two types. Natural and wild. This distinction is made as to how easy one branch grafts in compared to another. A natural branch takes hold much easier than a wild branch. Natural branches are branches that used to be a part of the natural olive tree and were broken off. Ephraim falls into that category. Paul clearly explains that both natural branches and wild branches are being grafted in. Wild branches are not branches that used to be a part of the natural tree but come from a different olive tree. Ephraim = Natural branch being grafted back in. Gentiles = wild olive branches being grafted in.
@@JosefGroup unfortunately that doesn’t line up with the promises of the Old Testament about the northern kingdom Israelites being sifted among the gentiles. Lost. Broken. Separated. Etc. You are putting too much stock into the natural branch theory. It’s a fairy tale story. Paul is clearly pulling from Zeke stick prophecy. And here’s what you have to understand- There’s only 2 groups mentioned in the New Testament who are being saved. Jew and gentile. We know who the Jews are of course. We know that the Jews are NOT the 10 northern tribes of course. The Jews actually hated their northern brethren and there was much “enmity over the law” between them as Paul stated. So now ask yourself something- why do we see all 12 tribes saved in the end? Where did the 10 northern tribes come from? Remember, it’s only “jew and gentile”…those are your groups. Yet we see all 12 tribes saved in revelation at the final heavenly throne scene. That’s because the elect “gentiles” were the 10 northern tribes. Those are your “gentiles” in the “jew and gentile” mission to save the elect. The prodigal son parable says it all. The northern Israelites go away. Become unclean and sifted far and wide. Associating with heathens. Then god has mercy on them and calls them home and the other brother is jealous. Paul speaks on this exact thing in Roman’s how the gentiles provoked the Jews to jealousy. It’s all about Israel and not a single person beyond that. It’s an ideal fairy tale of their redemption and restoration with their tribal God Yahweh
@@jasondecosta2349 so what you teach is that only physical decendents of Israel can be saved? I lean more towards the idea of Ephraim being scattered among the nations was so that when God called them back he would also show mercy to the gentiles, those who would by faith accept the salvation in Christ. Thus their disobedience turned out to be mercy for the gentiles.
@@JosefGroup the last days gospel mission was very temporary and would conclude at the coming of the Lord which was “at hand” in those last days. That’s when the mission of all Israel Saved would be fulfilled. I see nothing beyond that “short work” that Paul called it.
oh, abso FREAKIN lutely it does! Because that is exactly the story...lost sheep whom Christ already knew were out there and were going to be sought out until he gathered them all in. Calvinism? No because Calvin was a wannabe. But election before having done anything good or bad in the womb? Most def! :)
@@danielturcotte9146 :) Yes sir. Many peeps got pieces of the story right over the years. But cessationism IO came in and just stomped on everyone and claimed it's throne lol
The strange thing about this is you don't seem to know who the tribes of Israel are and were. The so called modern" jews" are not . The Germanic, Scandinavian, Celtic, Anglo-Saxon related people are the sons of Jacob. I dont if you are doing damage control or what but the cat is out of the bag.
The olive tree is WILD BY NATURE. Its the gentiles who are the NATURAL BRANCHES. This is the mystery that paul reveals at the end of Romans 11. But because people cant read nor comprehend theyve been deceived.
Not so. It is the joining back of the 2 sticks of Ezekiel...aka the 2 branches. Go take a look at whom that is...Ezekiel 37 Let the story dictate whom the characters actually are.
