@@luirvin1733 💯 the fact that almost 200 people co-signed this comment Is sad A.F Shows you why our community is in disarray. A Man that values family, it shows by the fruits of his Labor, not sentimental hood cliche B.S Avon has the money, resources and accumen for his family not to even be characters in this show . None of his family has a future, their just going thru the motions until the pendulum swings.
This video starts about 12 seconds too late. A very important dialogue is missed. Stringer informs Avon that a detective sat in the back of the courtroom and watched the whole scene. Avon and Stringer were wise enough to know that this was a big deal, D'Angelo was not. D'Angelo beating that case was the beginning of the end of the Barksdale empire, but they didn't know it. Dee (whose name is now recognized) was connected to the murder of Avon's old GF in the apartments. After speaking to her roommate, they discovered Avon shadow owned the Gentlemen's club, and they began listing all Avon's other assets. Remember, before D beat that murder in open court, no one in the Baltimore Police Department even knew who Avon was. THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A PICTURE OF HIM. One careless act brought the whole thing crumbling down.
You’re right! Great attention to detail! I feel like if it wasn’t this then it would have been something else at some point but still this was the beginning of the end.
Didnt bubbles friend get his ass kicked and than bubs agreed to snitch on them all? Its been a minute since ive seen the whole show. I feel like there were multiple things that put avons people on the polices radar.
Yessir! A lot of people feel bad about D’Angelo’s fortune, but he brought this fate upon himself and he was the main reason the whole organization was taken down. If D wasn’t blood related to Avon he most certainly would’ve gotten taken out for his reckless actions. To me it also proves that D was not at all built for the game by how he reacted to Pooh in that lobby. Fear alone is what crippled D. Easily the weakest link in the crew.
@@jakeackermann9059yeah but D beating that murder put them on front street. D ultimately brought them down, also Orlando put the nail on the coffin. Well, Stringer kind of did when he ordered the hit on Orlando and Kima got accidentally shot in the process.
You know what I noticed after every lecture Avon gave D'Angelo he always showed him love at the end of there conversations kinda like how a father would talk with his son you can Avon really raised D'Angelo as a kid
I always felt bad for D. He seemed smart, intelligent. He seemed trapped in something he never really wanted. Like he said, "I was born into this shit."
Mike Reed Yes, D was born into that life, but from this scene we can tell that he revels in that life! He enjoyed the perks of the life (money, clothes, women, creature comforts), until the shit got real! And then he was revealed to be unready for the consequences.
Sometimes I feel like people at my job don’t like me cause they are hard on me But they are hard on me because they really do care This is what scene makes me think about
If you think about it him and namond were put in almost the same positions with similar traits. Both of em was hard on the outside but EXTREMELY soft on the inside, both projected, both didn’t wanna be in the game but had to because of the royal bloodline they had. Only one was lucky enough to be young as shit and had an outlet. That’s what initially made me believe that bey saw those traits in namond went he witnessed how dee was and what happened to him, which is why he didn’t really object to giving nay to bunny
schooled him somewhat , but deangelo wasn't built for the game, and his mistake of shooting that guy in the lobby was the 1st mistake made that put avon under surveillance. before then he was practically unknown and off the cops radar on a big scale.
Yup and Idris is the only one who really made it to the a list. I loved seeing a lot of the wire cast in the walking dead though! I was so excited! Cutty, deangelo, carver!
It's weird. The first time I saw The Wire I considered Avon to be a druglord villain like any other. Now, it's obvious what a great *leader* he is. Scenes like this and the one with Cutty underpin that Avon actually knows his shit and knows how to deal with people and his emotions towards them.
Dude, you are so fucking right. Avon was almost an honorable warrior when you get to Marlo later. He gave to the community, tried to do his best for his people.
Avon was trying to school D. But D had a weak heart. He wasn't built for the family business. But Avon loved him so much that he didn't care if his nephew wasn't built for the game. Avon was a way better leader than Marlo who operates on fear alone. If stringer didn't rat, Avon would have eradicated Marlo.
@@ThatUJohnWayne He was a charismatic andikeable guy. But selling heroin to his community on a massive scale and every once in a while throwing a charity event that also functions as a PR stunt doesn't really make him good. Hes also just not as despicable as Marlo
Deangelo made a joke about what they did with the security lady when Avon was scolding him for fucking up. If he won’t family that would probably have been the end of his drug career or maybe even his life.
D was just an older version of Namond. He talk that big ish to impress people but when its time to get busy he gets cold feet. They both had shot caller in their family and they banked on that to keep their street cred up.
D was a leader and a good teacher to poot and bodie and made something out of the shitty pit Namod sucked at the job from day one and couldn't even get respect from an 11 year old, dude was barely ever the leader he basically was number 2 to Micheal
You are the only other person Ive seen that caight the lyrics to Bill Withers "Use Me" in the background while Avon tries makes it seem like its purely about family first and that Dee is indispensable and would never be screwed over. You are only around that game as long as you serve a purpose to someone. Once they cant use you anymore they move on to the next person with that same lie.
At 2:28 the look on Avons face says it all he had his mind made up that Dangelo was going back to the pit he wasn't on Towers anymore that was Avons way of making Dangelo suffer since he got them into more bs that they got to work around and what's fucked up is that Dangelo didn't seem all that serious or concerned bc he was spoiled by Avon thinking he could do anything and get away with it as long as Avon is around
After seeing this scene Dee owed Avon his life,that shit Dee pulled before he got killed was foul because Avon was still looking out for him trying to get him a early release.
Dude what are you on??? D'Angelo wanted to separate himself from the game because he isn't built for it and a young boy who he cared about (Wallace) got killed because of Stringer's orders
Cj James Exactly. Had he been born into a different family, he could have been anything. Dude showed compassion on the show and had a good heart. Look how he acted towards Wallace.
internet gangsters are just gangsters that are on the internet most the time lol you wouldnt be saying nothing to their face lol you'd walk by with your head down saying "i certainly dont want any trouble fellas"
Cj James not that he wasn't made for the game. D has already taken somebody's life. He can run crews like he was born to do it. So he's definitely knee deep in the game. He's just not made to be a CEO (like Slim Charles says). That's what Avon is trying to stress. What Stringer already is seeing. Not being able to game some cat out of this situation then doing this dirt in front of WITNESSES. I think Avon is saying, you can kill the dude, but don't get emotional about it. It's just business. He cannot take a beat down or an L. He has to fall (like Marlo says). Just not in the lobby of the building where you conduct all of your operations
Ro Kaine I Was Scrolling Trying To See If Anyone Caught It . The Writers On This Show Were Amazing . Nothing Was Coincidental . Everything That Had Meaning . . From The Colors Of Their Clothing & Even Down To The Music . Great Show !
Noticed When He Pulled Rank On Stringer For Sending Trying To Send Slim Charles To Hit Clay Davis, Locked Up From Akon Was Playing In The Background Of The Spot Avon Got Arrested At
Crazy to think i was like 11 when i started watching the wire and about the same age as the kids when seasom 4 started but i realize now i was just enamored by the violence and shit. Re watching as an adult has been incredible. This shit is a masterpiece! Literally you HAVE TO INCLUDE THIS IS TOP 5 SERIES OF ALL TIME
The irony is the song in the background, "Use Me" by Bill Withers. Avon used D'Angelo the entire time. He kept on using D, until he was used up and "suicided".
D'angelo wasn't built for the dopegame. But his whole family was involved in it, so he felt obligated to do right by Avon. But he only ended up being a disappointment more times than not.
He ain’t really have a choice. He said multiple times in the season and even before he was killed that he was forced as a child to live that kind of life. Even made his mom break down in tears when he told her about the story where she forced him to go back and fight some kids that was jumping him and locked him out the house
@@mr4kgamer then do your duty to the best of your abilities, and he didn't. He didn't take his ROLE serious, or pay ATTENTION to the danger. And it cost him his life.
Avon understood that there has to be a code. There needs to be some kind of honor system, or the whole thing just degenerates into mindless violence and chaos.
When I first watched The Wire this was the scene that got me, that made me realize it wasn't just another rehash of gangster/cop tropes and cliches. What really got me in the scene is Avon saying "That shit costs money. It costs time and money"... this is what a real manager/leader would be thinking about, worried about, and upset about. He doesn't use some cliched sociopathic performance to gloat over how they were able to game the justice system with the witness tampering, but instead is angry that they had to spend resources (time and money) on dealing with a problem.
Putting dangelo in the pit is was i think changed his perspective of the game. The towers were a cake walk and hes avons nephew. In the pit he saw the reality of shit.
Wood Harris ft. Mekhi Phifer & Cam’ron - 2Pac’s The Boondocks - Avon “Ace” Barksdale (Wood Harris) explains to his fellow comrade D’Angelo Harris (Larry Gilliard, Jr.) to not fuck up or end up in Prison
If D'Angelo wasn't literally the nephew of the king he would have been dealt with a long time ago. Avon was so big on family he let D get away with so much bs. Even here, Avon is trying to teach D a lesson and make him understand why he needs to shape up but all D can do in response is make excuses and try to laugh off his fuck ups. No wonder Stringer couldn't stand his ass. He clearly wasn't built for the game and was only in it because it was "the family business"
Brennan Long Avon just couldn’t believe how D didn’t realize the sacrifices Avon was making on his nephews’ behalf! D should’ve been sitting down somewhere talking to his mama that night!
Heir to the throne that he sought is half of it. The other being that Stringer had intuition. He knew deep down that D'angelo was no gangsta and that made him the Barkdale crew's #1 Enemy and no one but him knew this until it finally came to fruition.
This was kind a strange response from a Kingpin. Usually, in their world, what D did would have celebrated, because he went to jail and didn’t snitch. I’m not saying it was good, just analyzing it from the standpoint of their world. Someone like Marlo, as horrible as he was, would have probably actually promoted D, for doing a good job representing the Stanfield ‘brand’. However, it shows what a complicated character Avon was and how he was able to stay under the radar all those year. His #1 aim was staying under the radar and remaining the dominant player in ‘the game’. Collecting ‘bodies’ and drawing unnecessary attention wasn’t his MO. He was like a big bear - you leave him alone, he’ll leave you alone. The Barksdales were feared, but generally it was viewed around the community, that if you didn’t get in there way, they would generally leave you alone. Barkesdale were ravaging the community, but there’s wasn’t a reign of terror - like Marlo’s regime.
You looked at this all wrong Avon came off upset because it brought unnecessary heat and he had to work around that just to get his ungrateful nephew out of jail. D is lucky Avon didn't have him clipped for that.
Honestly, I hated how Dee started to treat Avon when they were in ajil ... Avon really did try to help him even though he did mess up and I felt like your uncle forgave you messing up almost getting them caught up why can't you have the same grace he Honestly had to be taken down he started to buck at family too much and he was gonna start telling everything 😂
