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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. The extraordinary, wonderful, and terrifying implications of computers that can learn
Jeremy is the CEO of Enlitic, which uses recent advances in machine learning to make medical diagnostics faster, more accurate, and more accessible. The company's mission is to provide the tools that allow physicians to fully utilize the vast stores of medical data collected today, regardless of what form they are in - such as medical images, doctors' notes, and structured lab tests.
He is a serial entrepreneur, business strategist, developer, and educator. He is also the youngest faculty member at Singularity University, where he teaches data science, and is a Young Global Leader with the World Economic Forum. He advised Khosla Ventures as their Data Strategist, identifying the biggest opportunities for investing in data driven startups, and helping their portfolio companies build data driven businesses. Previously he was the President and Chief Scientist of Kaggle, a community and competition platform for over 150,000 data scientists. Before working at Kaggle, he was the top ranked participant in data science competitions globally, in 2010 and 2011. He founded two successful Australian startups (the email provider FastMail, and the insurance pricing algorithm company Optimal Decisions Group), both of which grew internationally and were sold to large international companies. He started his career in management consulting, working at the world’s most exclusive firms, including McKinsey & Co, and AT Kearney (becoming the youngest engagement manager world-wide, and building a new global practice in what is now called “Big Data”). He is also a keen student, for example developing a new system for learning Chinese, which he used to develop usable Chinese language skills in just one year. Jeremy has mentored and advised many startups, and is also an angel investor. He has contributed to a range of open source projects as a developer, and was a regular expert guest on Australia's most popular TV morning news program "Sunrise".
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@GeorgeBaily
@GeorgeBaily 9 лет назад
The faces of the audience are priceless in the "humanity will be obsolete" bit at the end.
@colinhales1566
@colinhales1566 9 лет назад
There is no understanding here. There is no seeing. There is no reading. There is no hearing. This is abstract catgories grounded in the human understanding & seeing & hearing & reading & ... Very very useful thing. Powerful tool. But that's all. Mistaking data-mining for cognition is something that this era in computing will teach us. This TED captured this era in the misunderstanding. Cheers Colin
@kimalfred249
@kimalfred249 9 лет назад
Fascinating!
@charbeltannios546
@charbeltannios546 2 года назад
👏👏👏 Great speech , perfect 👍
9 лет назад
From the intelligence of an infant to computerized pathologists, writers, book keepers, catalogers, engineers, journalists, wow, computers are amazing! Technological unemployment is no longer science fiction; it's here, and it has been ongoing since the Industrial Age! The real challenge will be whether we can as a civilization can adapt to it or not.
@kantulaev
@kantulaev 3 года назад
Jeremy we love you
@JD-zz
@JD-zz 9 лет назад
I feel that virtual secretaries would've made a nice point in this presentation as they are one of the growing fields replacing people while still needing consistent community feedback. It's a great example of how people will still be needed to train the system, if in a less direct manner.
@JD-zz
@JD-zz 9 лет назад
And saying that I also have to say I loved the presentation and the process behind it.
@lucarigazio
@lucarigazio 9 лет назад
Jeremy Howard - who made the speech-to-speech system you mentioned in the china conference?
@DyzioTheDreamer
@DyzioTheDreamer 7 лет назад
Most of our fears regarding the development of AI revolve around the issue of employment. For anyone to join this conversation it is paramount to understand /define what employment/work actually is because in majority of cases the standard definition of work being the exectution of some tasks that directly contribute to the survival of people fails to describe what "work' is today. The modern definition of work is: ' doing something reluctantly for a given number of hours every day, without seeing the point of it other than getting paid at the end of the month'. Work in this sense is completely secure, no matter how advanced the AI gets. As long as there are people, there will be jobs. Jobs will only disappear, when people disappear
@FrankFloresRGVZGM
@FrankFloresRGVZGM 9 лет назад
Please investigate a resource based economy.
@delatroy
@delatroy 9 лет назад
I think Jeremy was being painfully generous with the whole man + machine thing. I just didn't think I'd feel this belittled this quickly not by him, but by the unyielding, exponentially ruthless tide that drives the economic value of all but those with stock in the businesses that own the algorithms, centralised capital and physical resources. Conversely, it will mean immense gains in productivity meaning that there won't be the need for us to work as much however I'm unclear on how the day to day of that works. If people have a vastly diminished ability to provide value and earn, then there will be a vastly lower potential for profit on the market as a whole which offsets gains in productivity derived through this freeing up of labour. However consider that no business would ever provide needs let alone desires for free so I don't see a clear way how all this shakes out. It could be that the algorithms get hacked or opensource which then gives productivity to many more but again, producing stuff for free will never occur. It won't be an absolute like this so maybe we'll have to compete in spaces where machines cannot like... pro gaming, sports, drug dealing, prostitution, art (?)... Not traditionally regarded as solid career choices, suitable for the masses or high earners.
@MarkoKraguljac
@MarkoKraguljac 9 лет назад
End of slavery is possible. Hardest part will be to convince slaves that we are not our jobs and that employment and income are and always were two separate things.
@TelmoMonteiro
@TelmoMonteiro 9 лет назад
Love this :)
@GBlunted
@GBlunted 9 лет назад
"State Of The Art" as of 12-08-2014! Kind of like IBM's Watson computer! This could be scary... Perhaps the beginning of the end?
@SamSung-jq4ho
@SamSung-jq4ho 2 года назад
18:13 "in 5 years time, computers will be off this chart" Not in this timeline apparently.
@bkovba
@bkovba 2 года назад
yeah it's really satisfying to come back to such claims after some time
@thetubeinsideyou
@thetubeinsideyou 9 лет назад
17:11 for the terrifying shit.
@chrisf1600
@chrisf1600 9 лет назад
15:45 : "This is a case not where the human is being replaced by a computer, but where they're working together". True, there's a human involved in the initial stages of training, but once the computer "gets the idea" then the human has rendered him or herself permanently obsolete (along with all the other trained experts in that field). Terrifying indeed.
@Opadox
@Opadox 9 лет назад
Singularity confirmed
@efortune357
@efortune357 9 лет назад
The most important point of this vid. “People can be quite dismissive. “Well, computers can’t really think, they don’t emote, they don’t understand poetry, we don’t really understand how they work”, So what? Computers right now can do the things that humans spend most of their time being paid to do. So now is the time to start thinking about how are we going to adjust our social structures and our economic structures to be aware of this new reality.” ~Jeremy Howard
@DEBUG1984
@DEBUG1984 4 года назад
6 years later... 2020... what have changed since the talk?
@jisatextraservdotnet
@jisatextraservdotnet 9 лет назад
One idea that was only surfaced in this speech (for good because it was targeting realistic and close-future expectations): We used to tell algorithms what to find. Now machines start to find by themselves what is up to be noticed (Google's cat search). But I may try to extrapolate from this. Currently: Big companies have massive data concerning a big chunk of mankind. One man can try to search for specific statistics and tell the machine what the goal is. Then he collects results and try to make something out of it. Some unexpected info can emerge from it, but all is mostly constrained by the man's imagination and initial expectations. Future: I expect machines to surf the big data and to seek by themselves what interesting things they can find. The cat search of Google is very basic, but with some more robust AI, it can try to find interesting patterns and emerging ideas that we wouldn't have thought at first. I think humans have always tried to use some kind of map reduce algorithm, but with specific map and reduce algorithms/filters that we are already used to. The idea is to analyse mankind from a different point of view.
@jisatextraservdotnet
@jisatextraservdotnet 9 лет назад
Shawn Chong One downside is that that kind of tech will be hard to democratize. It will be in control of a few companies. I hope we will have some open source tech at some point.
@efortune357
@efortune357 9 лет назад
Eventually We'll need an #UnconditionaBasicIncome
@ShaferHart
@ShaferHart 5 лет назад
That's just patchwork for an economic system that will be rendered obsolete. Will uber rich people ie the powers that be accept that the system that enabled their high societal status is no longer needed? That's what it will come down to in the end.
@ClarkMitchell2012
@ClarkMitchell2012 9 лет назад
Is the interface he is using to classify car pictures available to play with?
@lordjavathe3rd
@lordjavathe3rd 9 лет назад
***** Is there any concern among the experts that human level AI might be developed by people researching out of their garage?
@lordjavathe3rd
@lordjavathe3rd 9 лет назад
***** Thank you for taking the time to reply :)
@JonBarker1
@JonBarker1 9 лет назад
***** Could you possibly say what software stack you guys used to develop your tool? I'm trying to put something similar together and can't decide on the best framework to use. Thanks!
@JonBarker1
@JonBarker1 9 лет назад
***** Thank-you for the quick response!
@MrCher2
@MrCher2 7 лет назад
Household income is still increasing. (You can check an updated mean household income evolution data at FRED website for example). Even if the mean household income was flat, it would imply an increase in productivity becouse the mediam hosehold size is smaller nowadays. Perks are also something not included in that household income data, and they are something that has increased during last years, specially for lower income workers. Income data does not account for a great amount of contributions made by technology. For example, nowadays everyone in a developed country has access to small cheap computers connected to internet, with access to huge libraries full of knowledge, to mobile phones, and to good quality big screens. Those are some things that would have been considered luxury products, and would have been valued at hundreds of thousands of dollars only some decades ago. We also have better healthcare treatments today. If IA created much better and much cheaper products substituting those we have today, that would be good for me, even if I had to work for a lesser amount of money, as a leisure staff member for example.
@darkcynite
@darkcynite 9 лет назад
I expect some limit. That doesn't mean our place won't change.
@skywola
@skywola 9 лет назад
I do not see it as terrifying in any way. Certainly we must exercise caution. However, the actual merging of man an machine will have benefits for both. We must evolve . . . and computers are the superhighway which we must use in this endeavor to evolve. While we humans have to study one book for hours to understand its concepts, a computer interfaced with a human could accomplish this task in seconds. That means that one human could become knowledgeable of every profession on the planet in a very short time . . . . including rocket science and advanced mathematics. Scary? We are naturally afraid of the unknown. But is was not by being cowards that Columbus or Magellan accomplished what they did.
@JasminShah
@JasminShah 9 лет назад
16000 Dimensional space? Oh God!
@jerrybender6633
@jerrybender6633 4 года назад
Yea i almost missed that i wish he hadnt just moved on but had fleshed it out a bit more my goodness if this doesnt move us into a world waaaay beyond our understanding
@ejpmooB
@ejpmooB 9 лет назад
Shit ... power went down. O no ... our clever computer died!
@uberdevo
@uberdevo 4 года назад
networks are distributed, you would have to destroy every single computer on earth
@WillowEpp
@WillowEpp 9 лет назад
This wouldn't even be a problem worth mentioning if the energy revolution were at least well-underway, but post-scarcity isn't possible when there's still scarcity (that's sort of definitional). On the other hand, machine learning might give it a boost once the suspicion of "oh no, Skynet!" wears off. I'd like a world where my children don't have to toil away the priceless time of their limited lives to earn the basic necessities of living.
@RDogg69
@RDogg69 9 лет назад
Considering I just watched Transcendence before watching this video.
@rkpetry
@rkpetry 9 лет назад
Have they tried 'deep-learning' on poetry, specifically, something we played-with back in the early-'70's: it'd be interesting-for-a-moment to listen to the progress made in this effort to get computers to write poetry, comparing for cadence, trope, genre, style...plagiarism efficiency.
@Brainbuster
@Brainbuster 7 лет назад
That's not an urgent need of humanity. I'd rather they focus deep learning on climate change and health issues.
@mckennacisler01
@mckennacisler01 9 лет назад
I think that we can't let computers replace us. We have to grow with them, not by expanding our intelligence to match them, but by using them as tools to accomplish tasks which used to slow down humans. Then, with computers taking care of these tasks, we will be able to focus on the qualities which distinguish us from computers, and thus combine their immense power with human skills like creativity and ethics to leverage the advantages of computers towards our own gain, instead of falling behind.
@Brainbuster
@Brainbuster 7 лет назад
Okay.
@JohnSmith-ir2ui
@JohnSmith-ir2ui 7 лет назад
Mckenna Cisler, We might have more creativity or ethics but computers will be exponentially smarter than we will ever be. We will need to be able to fuse our minds with AI technology so that we can advance with AI, or else it'll just leave us behind
@YandryRafaelGranda
@YandryRafaelGranda 9 лет назад
Estamos frente a un problema que nunca antes la humanidad enfrentó, el ser humano pronto podría ser reemplazado en la parte científica y operativa por máquinas, ....que vamos a hacer con esto?
@redghost6386
@redghost6386 7 лет назад
Soon the machine will attempt to find it's self. That might be a day to be scared.
@casey6259
@casey6259 9 лет назад
sure its intelligent but is it sentient and has emotion?
@farceadentus
@farceadentus 6 лет назад
Universal basic income is the solution to job losses
@Maltcider
@Maltcider 9 лет назад
I for one welcome our computer overlords.... as long as the kind of unemployment it provides is the 'having basic needs met' kind for everyone and they learn empathy.
9 лет назад
I failed to see what's "terrifying" about these advancements. We are about to enter a real human golden age.
@49ersLaurie
@49ersLaurie 9 лет назад
Well, unless politicians try to keep us back in redundant policies, but I think we will move on before too much shit happens.
@Perkele_Itse
@Perkele_Itse 9 лет назад
"human golden age" as in, no humans at all :D Computers learn and grow, they think more and more themselves. They start building each other, they calculate that humans are a waste of space, BOOM! AI deleting humans off the yard. Imo the "terminator" scenario is a very plausible one.
@chrisf1600
@chrisf1600 9 лет назад
The thought of mass unemployment doesn't terrify you ? As in, *billions* of humans permanently displaced from the workforce ?
@49ersLaurie
@49ersLaurie 9 лет назад
Chris, it will be an age of abundance as long as we don't keep our economic model the same.
@chrisf1600
@chrisf1600 9 лет назад
Shawn Chong Fair point, Shawn, what I should have said is that it's terrifying under our present economic system. Perhaps if the countries of the world can adapt and adjust to the new reality, it'll work out OK. But I do have my doubts. And FWIW, I may be an outlier here but I do greatly enjoy my work on the whole. I've taken breaks from the work in the past, and I've found it very unsatisfying after a few weeks. A life without stress or deadlines may sound like paradise to many people, but there's a lot of truth in the old saying : "You can't enjoy the sweet without the sour". Work makes me appreciate the others parts of my life so much more. But then I would say that, I'm insane :)
@rubytski
@rubytski 9 лет назад
If all can be done by a machine in due time, what are the 7 bilion people of this world gone spend their time on? This scares the living **** out of me.
@michelstronguin6974
@michelstronguin6974 9 лет назад
We may have to put a serious tax on the companies generating all that automation and giving a guaranteed minimum income to all citizens. This will only be possible once all low skilled jobs are replaced by robotics. Otherwise, who would want to be a genitor, a house maid or a bus driver if they are all getting a minimum income? But once robots are doing it all, then it's ok. A minimum income to all makes it possible for the unemployed to look for other ways of making money, because their brains are now free to be innovative instead of fearing the loss of benefits once they start making money from their innovative ideas. It is key not to give a minimum income only to the unemployed, because then we reward their inactivity, while giving the employed a reason to stop working. I am aware that a minimum income for all means that the billionaires also get that minimum income, but I think we can all live with that. All this would also mean that corporate tax evasion would be a top priority crime - much more so then nowadays. Automation is coming faster then ever before, so we need to make laws faster then ever before to be ready for the effects of an automated economy on our society.
@MrCher2
@MrCher2 7 лет назад
I don't think so. Much cheaper and much better things created by robots mean that you would be able to have a high flying lifestyle with any kind of job. There would not be any scarcity of jobs. There will be always something you can do that is valued by someone. And in an age of abundance, anything, (like babysitting 2 hours per day for example) will make you earn more than enough. The fact is that there has never been any scarcity of jobs. There could have been local scarcities of well enough paid jobs, but there has been always too much work to do for humans. Increasing taxes on companies, is an indirect way of taxing their products. Increasing taxes on technology, only makes people relatively poorer, and delays the benefits. Those countries who opposed industrial revolution, putting restrictions to the size of factories or banning technologies only got an underdeveloped poor country for more years.
@michelstronguin6974
@michelstronguin6974 7 лет назад
MrCher2 i never implied we need to ban anything. Banning technology will only drive it to another country or worse, underground. Look, I don't think you fully appreciate the level of intelligence these robots will have. According to some smart people, like Elon Musk, Gates, Hawkins... Brain scanning resolution have reached such a level that we are now mapping the interneuronal connections of our brain and through it uncovering the underlying principles of our thinking (for example see the work done by Numenta under Jeff Hawkins). This means that within less then 15 years (smart people are projecting it to get to market by 2029) we will have robots that think exactly the way we think. And since they are not limited by a fixed enclosure like our cranium, they will be smarter since they will have access to the cloud, which will multiply their intelligence many times over. Physically they will be stronger, faster, more agile, more dexterous and so on. And if they are not then another company will compete to make them so. Elon Musk said that in the end, a robot will be able to do anything a human can do but better, wiser and cheaper. He also said a minimum income will be needed. I agree that the way it's implemented is difficult, but it will have to happen. And even if we upgrade our own minds with Nano machines, robots will still be at least as smart and of-course much cheaper.
@michelstronguin6974
@michelstronguin6974 7 лет назад
→ to the knee check out Jeff Hawkins at google talk Spacial resolution of brain scanning has got to neuron per neuron basis already, so Jeff Hawkins in his organization -Numenta- along with Google, IBM and now Elon Musk's new company neuralink are uncovering the operating principles of the neocortex. Elon says that within 3-5 years we will have products on the market using these principles.
@MrCher2
@MrCher2 7 лет назад
On the contrary, anything a human could do, would be worth much more than today. That includes for example: competing against other humans in sports, helping others, charity, human babysitting, human art, being a good human company, giving human opinions, participating in human reality shows, and any one of the other things a robot can not do simply because they are not humans. And everything produced by a robot would be extremely cheap. Otherwise, a human would be still productive enough to work producing it for others.Because what you are not realising is that human work will be worth, in absolute terms, no less than today. If today's humans can produce 100 t-shirts per hour working as t-shirt producers, future humans will still be able to produce 100 t-shirts per hour in that job. (And probably many more). Humans will stop working as t-shirt producers, only when they can get more money (or t-shirts) doing other things. But, why would you work as a t-shirt producer if you could get 10000 t-shirt, working 1 hour as a meme creator? In other words, saying that human work will be worth nothing, is the same as saying that people would be able to get anything they want without needing to do any of the activities considered work today.
@MrCher2
@MrCher2 7 лет назад
There would be still less need of a mínimum income if robots were able to anything humans can do, but better, wiser and cheaper. Humans will still be able to produce their food or their clothes (and any other product) in the future. They will be able to do that, and they will do more with less effort than today. They will stop doing those types of work, only if they can get more money in other jobs. If robots were very very efficient, then, eventually, human activities like human babysitting, would be so well paid, that there would be no use in working as a food/clothes producer.
@rangitu
@rangitu 9 лет назад
SCAREY VERY VERY SCARY.
@PixelPhobiac
@PixelPhobiac 7 лет назад
Basic income
@shuski416
@shuski416 7 лет назад
Eric Andres Dad?
@stevo728822
@stevo728822 9 лет назад
In order to lead the future, computers will have to be designed to make mistakes. It is mistakes (mutations) that enables lifeforms to grow in capabilities.
@marcag9810
@marcag9810 9 лет назад
They already are... that's actually how this kind of learning works. A computer designes a method to get an objective, tests it, evaluates the reasults and tries to make it work if it doesn't or make ir work more efficiently if it does.
@stevo728822
@stevo728822 9 лет назад
Marc Qatastrofic No. That is a process of correcting mistakes to reach a target. Nature allows mistakes to flourish.
@marcag9810
@marcag9810 9 лет назад
stevo728822 But aren't those mistakes then already produced by the succesive path designs that are secuently tested?
@stevo728822
@stevo728822 9 лет назад
Computers have aims, goals and objectives. Nature's process has no objective. It will even allow failures to repeat infinitely.
@marcag9810
@marcag9810 9 лет назад
stevo728822 You might have a point. But since beings, in practical terms, long for survival (even though there might be no point in it), it has sense that we understand human cognition as a mechanism of planning methods to continuously stay alive. I really see no problem in applying the same logic to develop AIs
@sarys73
@sarys73 9 лет назад
very odd that at 13:25 he loses his accent then picks it up again.
@johnx.9992
@johnx.9992 9 лет назад
Everybody Every1 Check out this, for the AI series.
@jackinrackin8599
@jackinrackin8599 9 лет назад
this is great except it gave me cancer
@CentroMedicoUma
@CentroMedicoUma 9 лет назад
A little scary??:-)
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 9 лет назад
fascinating and scary never ever give this to a fucking investman banker or broker ...
@eduardoxmenezes
@eduardoxmenezes 9 лет назад
then in the future, there will be some jobs that directed by.............................machine?
@RussInGA
@RussInGA 9 лет назад
I wish they would have called it deep thought instead of deep learning
@ratloversallful
@ratloversallful 9 лет назад
All this advancement,and we still live in an obsolete society,plutocracy more or less...
@Zoza15
@Zoza15 9 лет назад
Yeap, Robots can do that shit too..
@nighter273
@nighter273 8 лет назад
why cant he put the last question to be answered by machine learning loool
@brunon.8962
@brunon.8962 8 лет назад
What if I want to be a slave keeping my job in bad condictions?
@florianjug
@florianjug 8 лет назад
partly interesting talk... but he seriously overestimates DL's capabilities...
@alexhaak6895
@alexhaak6895 9 лет назад
First comment
@FusionDeveloper
@FusionDeveloper 9 лет назад
@Alex Haak delete that.
@peterpetrov6522
@peterpetrov6522 5 лет назад
Perhaps AI will be "democratized" and easily available to anyone. So if my self-driving taxi or a robot works all by itself 24/7, and it pays off the loan for the initial cost in 6 months, then what's the problem? We can all use some free time. Singularitynet.io--the creators of the robot Sophia--are trying to make this work. BTW the entire concept of employer, employee, and working for a wage is coming to an end, and that's a great thing! The concept of money and governance are also changing thanks to Bitcoin and Ethereum. Maybe investing a small amount in those exponentially growing crypto currencies will be our new "job!" IMO The big tech companies and governments will be disrupted by the brutal efficiency of Bitcoin and Ethereum for the same reason Airbnb became richer than 100 year old hotel chains.
@alindastar4297
@alindastar4297 9 лет назад
The conundrum comes when the computers or A. I. reach sentient status. God creates man; Man creates god. God casts man from the garden; sentient god banishes man from the Earth. Man is exterminated computer inherits the Earth totally self-sufficient forever.
@yourface747
@yourface747 9 лет назад
omg, they could put this into a robot... and then they could make ai robots O.O
@MinhNguyen-tt3rm
@MinhNguyen-tt3rm 3 года назад
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@JodsLife1
@JodsLife1 9 лет назад
that is so fucking cool! i just hope china doesn't take over the world lol
@inthemidwest3514
@inthemidwest3514 2 года назад
The one area where computer learning is failing miserably is in construction. Sorry but it will never beat a human in construction work. Millions of variables that us humans have already second natured ourselves into looking out for. Every job site is different in perfection and imperfections that a lousy computer will never be able to find all of these issues plus correct them. If your telling complete idiots can make a computer go into deep learning to study new techniques for anything then that explains why I see so many 3d printing startups trying to take out carpenters only to realize a computer will never, ever! Cost effectively take out humans from the jobsites. Stick to playing checkers AI LMAO 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂
@sadclown1400
@sadclown1400 9 лет назад
"Source code or it didn't happen!" Another TED video with more empty words. A few months ago another guy talked about machine learning. We haven't heard from him since. Did he die, got killed, censored? Where is the source code? The verifiable proof? Of course they will sit on it forever and not do anything with it. Reminds me of what companies do with patents, etc. Progress is delayed due to this. It should be illegal to delay progress for greed.
@knucklesamidge
@knucklesamidge 9 лет назад
***** Do you support the zeitgeist movement? The things you mentioned at the end, basic income, end of scarcity, and automating everything we can are the major points they discuss. The future is going to be absolutely amazing.
@knucklesamidge
@knucklesamidge 9 лет назад
***** Absolutely. There's a free, open source, collaboratively written book called The Zeitgeist Movement Defined which you can Google for. It's the first or second result, available in PDF format. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. I've sent your Ted Talk to so many people already! This is eye-opening stuff the world needs to know about.
@mavor101
@mavor101 9 лет назад
***** I applaud you for wading into the morass that is RU-vid comments and coming out unscathed. I too hope that our societ(ies) in general begin waking up to the fact that the basis on which we have built much of our current social system is about to be radically and utterly thrown upside down... to be honest, I have great concerns considering we have allowed our governments (most of them anyways) to get away with a (mathematically provable) slanted political system that always ends up with two parties. How can we allow something so simply broken to run our lives and then expect to cope with what is about to come down the pipe? Perhaps we will need a true crisis to motivate change.. I just hope that crisis does not hurt too many people and/or destroy too many lives. PS. I came onto this video via the /r/basicincome reddit subreddit. Are you also a Redditor?
@sadclown1400
@sadclown1400 9 лет назад
***** What a delightful surprise. Yes, I do have trouble in finding it. To be clear when I talk about source code I talk about the implementation of the used algorithms. The source code of demos that demonstrate these "amazing" things. For third parties to read, compile, test and verify. A description of the algorithm is not the same as the demo implementation. Minor or missed details in the implementation not mentioned are important. "The devil is in the details" The car demo. Why is it not open sourced? These ted talks really need reference links. I remember a ted talk where they made a program that could figure out physics math equations based on the data. Such as an improved version of water/fluid physics if I remember correctly. I have not yet heard of any release of that equation or similar results. Have not found any source code either or detailed description of the algorithms used. Many examples of people in ted talks who talk about vaporware, It irks me greatly. Make me a less miserable clown. I have whiskey ready now I just need some reading material.
@sadclown1400
@sadclown1400 9 лет назад
knucklesamidge I thought about Star Trek when I read that. On earth in that story universe they have a similar economic system or lack thereof. Search for "Money - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki" if you want to read about it. The realist in me tells me that that will not work. Humans do not function like that.
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