The Wonderland System: Faking Dissociative Identity Disorder

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@michelle_mana 2 года назад

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@amyfu2047 Год назад

Wow. I thought I was just plain effing crazy. Then I was diagnosed at the age of 33. It took me another two years to accept it. Those two years were full of suicide attempts and other insanity. I do not understand why any system would put themself in danger by making a public thing like youtube or tiktok based on it. I never know who to believe or not. The only one I have no doubts about is Multiplicity and Me. I’m so happy for them achieving fusion.

@imitationsofmyself Год назад

I was 34 when I was officially diagnosed. Multiplicity and Me is the real deal I agree with this 100%. The majority of people with genuine multiplicity don't parade their alters on camera like some bizarre sideshow. They don't sell merch of their alters. They don't do 'alter introductions' or 'round robin' taste tests. I never thought I'd live long enough to see a disorder that stole my childhood and was nearly fatal become a "trend".

@seriousblond007 Год назад

also agree on multiplicity and me. I am SO happy that Jess was able to achieve final fusion

@fusederuption2513 Год назад

@@seriousblond007 I also achieved final fusion and didn't look up any tutorials or anything

@hallojkompis 10 месяцев назад

Agreed! Remember when I found multiplicity and me, she’s so sweet and has such comprehensive info (at least she used to)

@johnathancurry6993 6 месяцев назад

As someone suffered with D.I.D, it is quite hurtful the misinformation that is going around, as well as the fake claiming on system because of fakers. However, knowing those whom use Tiktok whom have D.I.D also, it's inspiring to know I am not alone with this disorder. For a long time, I suffered alone and in silence, with no good representation. But there are some whom are truthful about it, whom inspire us not to be so afraid anymore of something that wasn't our fault. Thought I just share. Also to all these people saying you have to be consistently in fear or panic or shame to have D.I.D..That doesn't make sense. How you expect anyone with D.I.D to live a semi functional existence, if you believe they have to be always in fear or shame over something they didn't cause. I'm just saying that sounds like a unhealthy outlook for people whom already suffer enough.

@charliecat2948 2 месяца назад

About the lactose intolerance thing; if you are lactose intolerant it means you are missing the enzyme that breaks down lactose. That won’t change even if you have DID

@johnathancurry6993 5 месяцев назад

As someone who suffers from D.I.D, and who is married for over 12 years, it does not always end messy; and you can be happily married.. Yes my husband isnt very knowledgable in D.I.D, but that never stops him from being supportive when it is needed. He treats me and my alters with love, and patiences. While this isnt every system, I wanted to share to break the stigma Wonderland is spreading about D.I.D and relationships, it is very possible to be married to someone whom doesnt have the disorder, and does not always end messy as they say. (To add, no I didnt tell my other half I had D.I.D straight off, I waited a year of us dating, before I finally let him know. I say this because it is important that you trust someone, before you tell them something about you that is big; like your mental health, cause one you know how they'll react, and you dont know if your gonna be together down the line.)

@luminodreamer 2 месяца назад

I’m really happy that you guys found someone like that ! I hope everything stays well for you :]

@Sw33tdropzz 6 месяцев назад

This is a very late comment but to me the alters being fake was obvious because the stuttering alters have a very clear sound of forced stuttering. And this is coming from a stutterer. Stuttering does not sound like that.

@JesusLightsYourPath 2 месяца назад

Yep, my brother has a speech impediment that's barely noticeable. It's obvious when stuff like that is forced.

@solarichan 2 месяца назад

I have speech problems and I can confirm, stuttering happens but not like _that_

@Sandwhaler 2 месяца назад

Are open vowels like the "o" and "a" spots where someone with a stammer would usually get stuck? If you don't mind me asking?

@solarichan 2 месяца назад

@@Sandwhaler in my case, not a lot, I usually don’t screw up on the vowels themselves but with the whole word itself and the sentence, yeah, sometimes. But the level of my stuttering kinda depends on the situation too, I never have a problem with pronouns like “you” or “she”

@wallflowerwithoutperks 2 месяца назад

My main anxiety tic is a stutter, and yeah. AJ specifically made me raise an eyebrow

@meadowsage1456 2 года назад

She definitely has something going on.... the pride flag is upside down

@terzosgloves Год назад

I just realised that 😭

@broke_oof 3 месяца назад

one of the personalities is homophobic

@kayleigh1991 3 месяца назад

@@broke_ooflmao that must be awkward

@FerretDoodle 2 месяца назад

@@broke_oof Wait actually?

@pestilenssi8979 28 дней назад

@@FerretDoodle no

@user-yg4br8ut5t Год назад

a lot of people covering DID online get really into the "fake disorder cringe" rabbithole, which is just as chock full of misinformation about DID as the tiktok self-roleplay crowd. i was really impressed by how respectful this video was :)

@michelle_mana Год назад

OMG THANK YOU

@Freshieroleplays 2 месяца назад

THISSS so many accounts are just like "Omg cringe lollll' making fun of the person instead of actually calling out anyone!

@leowidows Год назад

you're also totally correct about that doctor that pulled out a DSM to diagnose. i went through 2 days of 8-hour testing everyday and months of waiting for results to get a diagnosis, and that's after years of working on the symptoms themselves in therapy. it takes lots of dissociation treatment to even realize the presence of fractured parts, and some of the waiting is simply waiting to reach the age where the average person would've grown into their full identity. lots of 14-16 year olds' brains haven't developed fully enough to "know who they are" yet, so when a 16 year old says they have DID, it often will subside as they age and their brain develops a sense of self, as we all do in our teenage years. waiting until 18-19 to even mention the possibility of a dissociative disorder with fractured identity states is just good practice for doctors. you simply have to wait and see if it goes away before a diagnostic process should even begin

@smokedrugzs 10 месяцев назад

As a person with D.I.D who was diagnosed and took the time to get second options from many doctors. It took me several years to come to terms with the fact that i have this disorder. My mind was completely boggled learning i actually have this disorder. Due to me getting to a point of just thinking the disorder wasn't even truly a disorder due to such little information on it. I can say even after having this disorder for years I only have 3 Alters that i am / friends and family and doctors have seen. I really gets under my skin of people kinda taking the disorder to a cutesy level. I've had to overcome many things due to the disorder. 1 example is i cannot drive. I've loved cars and motor bikes since i was young and the fact that i can not drive due to my amnesia really makes me upset. Also just the "switching" as people call it but to me i feel physically sick when it happens. It is not a cute quirky disorder and it hurts to see so many people show it as what feels like a party trick. I enjoyed your take and opinions on this video. Much love

@smokedrugzs 10 месяцев назад

I can also say if there is other people who have this disorder what has helped me was finding a great therapist and doctor i've had the same therapist for 12 years and she is amazing so if you are struggling start there!

@Lady_Katie 4 месяца назад

I agree. It also seems so ungrateful to have a normal brain and fake like they don’t. I’d give anything for a childhood that didn’t screw my brain up. I can drive most of the time, but there are times that I have someone else drive me because I’m so dissociated. DID sucks. Don’t know why anyone thinks this is quirky or looks fun. It can put you in dangerous and embarrassing situations. Actually living with DID is hard. F these buttheads.

@leowidows Год назад

i love this video, it's refreshing to see someone objectively analyzing the person without being flat out disrespectful to the real disorder.

@borealis_3882 11 месяцев назад

@@hansholdenhund you're a part of the problem

@nicodinisi Год назад

I know this is old but occasionally I think about it and I just wonder why did fakers don’t just get into improv or character acting. Wonderland may have been faking but they sound like they have a talent for coming up with distinct voices. I feel like they could learn to do voice over.

@heythereitsholly307 6 месяцев назад

Im coming in late too lol, but I agree. My old therapist would do little like skits with voice changes with me. Or we would read like percy Jackson and try to figure out how we think they'd sound and talk. It's just a good way to be silly and laugh. And a good distraction after talking about deep things

@aspengreen4319 2 месяца назад

For attention :( they most likely have another mental condition, and this is their way of coping, by pretending. Unfortunately, instead of pretending by playing sims or writing, they chose… this

@jasperjudd 2 месяца назад

As a pagan, that Tulpa hate came so out of left field for me 😭 I didn’t even know people with DID were even discussing them! I can only assume the kids in the DID community learned the word and are appropriating it and using it totally differently and that’s why they responded the way they did, because as someone who only knows the true definition of tulpas, their response made absolutely no sense. An alter is a fragmented part of your own brain, a tulpa is an autonomous spiritual being created from energy. It’s got nothing to do with DID, it’s literally a spiritual belief 😭 Calling it invalid cause it’s not a true system is WILD! It’s not supposed to be a system! I don’t blame the person in the video though, the fact that they’re responding that way can only mean that’s now a word the kids are using improperly. It’s just so baffling (as someone who’s not in the DID sphere and actually has knowledge and respect for these religious beliefs) to hear it talked about like this.

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

Fellow pagans unite 💪

@thegrimlooper Месяц назад

The “so hi” gets so annoying

@B1rdBird Месяц назад

0:20 most people with tics do apologize for them. yes, you are pretty much constantly saying sorry. the reason we apologize is because they arent socially acceptable and the other person knows it was a tic without directly saying that. plus there's a lot of misconceptions about tics. a lot of people think it's how you truly feel or what you think which isnt the case so that can also cause us to say sorry as a way to say "this isn't me". not only that but there is trauma that can come along with it. it takes a lot of work to stop yourself from saying sorry.

@BubblemouseM Год назад

I wish I was joking saying this but unfortunately I’m not. My cousin is 16 and after the lockdowns when they all returned to school she had 4 girls in her class, one identifying as an animal? Two of them had “developed” Tourette’s (which they got bored of faking a few weeks later apparently lol) and one of the girls self diagnosed herself with DID and one of her alters is allegedly a dragon?? Apparently all her alters are japanese or Korean as well (she’s a white Irish kid lol) stg tiktok straight up ruining kids now honestly. Edit to add: obviously not an insult to anyone who genuinely suffers with DID symptoms or tourettes, it’s just bizarre to me that kids would want to identify with such an illness that literally controls and has the possibility to ruin people’s confidence and lives.

@strawbabyboy666 Год назад

Yes this is so true. We have a few alters that *appear* Asian in headspace, but they will never truly be Asian because they don’t go through the things Asian people go through. But those girls sounded like they were definitely faking. People are so weird. -Mikey

@BubblemouseM Год назад

@@strawbabyboy666 they’re kids and they’ll grow out of it I believe, lots of kids got no real socialisation or interaction during the pandemic, so they turned to the internet to develop an identity, instead of learning their identity gradually through daily life and interaction with others. It’ll die off soon and hopefully genuine sufferers of dissociative symptoms will not be invalidated anymore!

@strawbabyboy666 Год назад

@@BubblemouseM yes, yes, indeed. Thank you for your kind words, we are done with people faking this disorder for fun, because it’s not all fun and games like they make it seem. -Mikey

@divinethrash4206 11 месяцев назад

@@strawbabyboy666and also weren’t born in an Asian country, or have Asian parents, IE DNA. The race change is out of hand. That’s gotta be some sort of body dysmorphia...

@kandikid372 7 месяцев назад

identifying as an animal is valid, but faking serious disorders is absolutely not okay omg

@seriousblond007 Год назад

DID is a fad now, plain and simple and it does nothing but hurt those who truly have the disorder. Just being mentally or developmentally disabled in general is a fad online. Teens need more hobbies I swear.

@rayreed795 Год назад

I agree with your analysis on the subject. The amount of psychobabble Dookie that’s coming out of these young children’s mouths & the fact that people are entertaining it is disturbing.

@camerokid78 Год назад

@@ijustrealllylikecatsThere’s teens in these comments claiming to have DID.

@solarpunch333 Год назад

The thing is, these teens who are faking it for attention probably do have some underlying issues. Why would they need attention? Are they lonely, being bullied? Teenage years can also suck because everyone is very judgmental and everyone wants to stand out. I think girls face this especially, and the 'not like the other girls' trend is proof of that. Most of them are also still kids, they probably don't have the best sense of awareness that what they're doing is harmful I don't condone the actions of these people who are faking being a system, but I don't think we should be completely villainizing these people. They're just teenagers after all. And they'll probably grow out of this phase anyway

@alexfraze12087 6 месяцев назад

Okay, so: Thinking you have D.I.D. and faking it is its own disorder. Do you know what reality checking is? It's extremely dangerous if not done by a professional who knows the steps to wake a patient up to reality - especially in the case in which someone is lying to themselves at this level. Being a random person on the internet witnessing another random person on the Internet does not give you the qualifications, the experience, the education, or the authority to diagnose someone (or even assume/speculate if they do or don't have a disorder). Much less many people at once. This rhetoric reminds me of transphobic rhetoric from the 2010s. There is not one way to present as a system. If you have not evaluated them as a professional with professional experience, you quite literally have no capability to form a fact-based opinion. All you've done is assumed, which makes an ass out of you.

@Luckydog-cc9jn 23 дня назад

@@camerokid78I used to think I did have it (pun not intended) and I realized it’s just me not. I picked up a few hobbies and never felt happier

@Evelyn_Cassidy Год назад

Tics are often very embarrassing to have I often feel ashamed of them and tend to constantly apologize for them when they happen in front of "witnesses" tics are a very isolating thing due to shame so I honestly hate people who fake them.

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

Yes personally if I had anything like DID I know I would feel shameful, just like I’d imagine you do with tics, and just like how I actually do with autism. Having autism causes me to have little understanding of what is socially acceptable. Every time I try a new outfit, different makeup, make a joke in public, anything that people could judge me for, I feel terrified that what I’m doing actually isn’t socially acceptable at all. That people will think I’m weird, or hate me. Because I have so little understanding of what is normal and what isn’t, I try to be “normal”, but I still want to be myself. But I fear that being myself isn’t good enough, and I am ashamed of the way I behave, not because I’ve necessarily done anything, but because I feel like I’m being annoying.

@cutesmolemogf 11 месяцев назад

i just got diagnosed with DID at the age of 22 and i haven't found an accurate representation of this at ALL. i'm an entirely covert system, and there's a lot of other people out there that are also covert systems that do not have outward, dramatic switches that tiktok users portray. (some systems are genuinely overt however, tiktok still doesn't represent them properly at all, as most are faking the disorder) the fact so many people fake having DID make it really hard for me to even open up about my diagnoses. DID has done nothing but made my life a living hell.

@sabrinaxraquel 6 месяцев назад

@jayjay1443 3 месяца назад

I am also a very covert system. I just figured out that I have developed DID and had it since I was a kid 😳

@kayleigh1991 3 месяца назад

I can’t imagine how difficult and frustrating this is for you. These people frustrate me to no end and I have nothing like DID. Wishing you well ❤

@hannahgilan8504 2 месяца назад

I had a very similar experience! It is really frustrating to see people portray DID as a fun disorder. It truly can be hell, for me it is. Good luck in the future ❤️

@machinegirliey 2 месяца назад

NO LITERALLY! i also was just recently diagnosed and watching people on tiktok think its a fun quirky disorder where you have friends in ur head, drives me insane!!

@HonkForCollectivity 2 месяца назад

As someone who tics I say sorry literally all the time 😭

@raaaaaaarr Год назад

Wow faking did and Tourette's. Ridiculous. I'm sorry but alters don't go around stating "I'm the cohost and there are 214 and my other person is named Tilly" like you're not supposed to be aware of your other alters, to begin with. Amnesia hello, how do you know you have 214 when you can't remember any of it

@bobbysgirl8365 Год назад

🤣 exactly!

@Evelyn_Cassidy Год назад

True but there's also factors like intra-system communication, the level of amnesia present (not all systems have complete amnesia as partial amnesia has also been observered in DID patients) as well as the posibility it's OSDD instead

@Em_Elizabeth 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, it's supposed to be a hidden disorder. The host usually doesn't know for a long time, to hide the traumatic memories. Alters tend to impersonate the host when they are out.

@aspengreen4319 2 месяца назад

I lowkey faked Tourette’s for a while in lockdown. It was subconscious, I never said I had Tourette’s, but looking back it was literally just stimming and TikTok had fed me so much fake info

@raaaaaaarr 2 месяца назад

@@aspengreen4319 very fascinating! Hard to bd brave enough to admit. You are brave :)

@bluerose7475 Год назад

I was diagnosed young at 16, and still don’t have fully formed alters now, It took me months to get a diagnosis and still to this day I don’t have a full understanding of how my own diagnosis works. It’s scary and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, and I’m scared to even talk about it because of all the misinformation on it and the fear of being called out. I still haven’t come to terms with having did, It’s easier to just say I’m crazy and hope it will go away. I’m in therapy but even still I can’t reach out to anyone around me out of fear that I won’t be believed. Faking disorders causes harm and then when people don’t have fully formed alters or a whole lot of knowledge even when they have the disorder they’re called out for faking because of how fakers make the disorder appear to work. I’m still young and learning about my own diagnosis and trying to learn to accept it. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone and as of right now I can only hope it’ll get easier as I get older. Without fully formed alters you lose chunks of time and just never feel right it’s not easy yo explain and maybe it feels the same with fully formed ones but I don’t know, I’ve never experienced it. I can only speak from my experience and I just want to say it’s not a positive experience and for those faking it and making it seems like people have such a good understanding and separation between alters especially so young you’re causing harm and spreading misinformation to people who actually have the disorder. I know every case is different and I don’t wanna call anyone out because of that but this is my experience. It’s a lot of confusion, missing time, and fear.

@lanao2377 Год назад

I have it 2 and I got diagnosed when I was 21

@Mike-th8um Год назад

It's because people don't have alternate personalities. It's a made up thing. Any one who we're actually investigated under scrutiny claiming to have multiple personalities always proved to be lying.

@k0chum Год назад

@@Mike-th8um They aren’t alternate personalities. Alters are essentially fragments of an original identity that failed to integrate during late childhood/very early adolescence due to dissociative barriers caused by repetitive traumatic events.

@Mike-th8um Год назад

@@k0chum I suppose I can somewhat understand that premise to an extent but what people portray is usually not accurate and it actually manifests itself other ways.

@k0chum Год назад

@@Mike-th8um I see your point. OSDD/DID and dissociative disorders in general are widely misunderstood and stigmatized by both society as a whole, and even some mental health professionals. As someone going through trauma therapy and dealing with a fractured identity, I can assure you these disorders, and the experiences of people struggling with them are *very* real. I do feel like some portrayals are sensationalized, exaggerated, etc. but there are people who have been traumatized so heavily, it’s easy to believe they could be fractured into hundreds of identities. When every day of your childhood is a war, a child’s mind might need to assign thoughts/feelings/actions/trauma to other identities simply to emotionally survive the experiences. Granted, these kinds of disorders typically progress over time rather than get better (if untreated), so younger people will typically experience milder symptoms, whereas diagnosing DID is more common in older people. Teenagers and people in their 20s are less likely to have fully developed alternate states of personality, it’s more commonly seen in people after their late 20s, and 30s. From what I’ve read. This is all new to me if I’m being completely honest. But as these disorders are born from trauma, they are often present differently for different people since their bodies and minds react uniquely to traumatic experiences. That’s why two people can go through the same things and one develop dissociative disorder(s) and one doesn’t.

@arimnemonic Год назад

I had to step away from the mental health community because it was getting to be ridiculous. And now anyone who hears D.I.D thinks alters, when the disorder is SOOOOOO much more than the alters. I also don't understand why anyone would want this disorder, or how everyone has such great communication with alters to make social media content but not to function like a normal person 🤷🏻‍♀️ This is someone with a Dissociation, PTSD, Anxiety, and BiPolar diagnosis. I try not to judge but it's just madness online 🙄

@Ittybittyguy 4 месяца назад

It's not possible for only one alter to have tourettes. If you have tourettes, it affects the entire system.

@rosehorror1422 3 месяца назад

I had to wait till my early 20s to even be diagnosed with BPD because my physc wanted time to actually evaluate (you know, how it should be done with certain disorders), I also have my psych degree myself now, so the idea of a doctor just essentially talking to you once or twice and being like "Yep its this you have this because my dictionary of disorders said so" is wild to me and the main red flag in my eyes.

@emilymontgomery3 Год назад

I was diagnosed a few months ago. I got a few studies done & had no clue what DID even was. I was sent to multiple specialist and they all agreed. I’d never ever out myself on the internet. That’s so unsafe. I have told like 5 people maybe besides this comment section. It just aggravates me people fake it makes the whole community (I guess the word to say) look bad. My alters are not fully formed and I don’t understand most of it. I had A LOT of trauma. I found out kinda by accident and challenged many professionals on the idea of me having it. I have no clue on amount of alters, jobs or anything… I just started trying to research more to understand myself more.

@ChooseLoveToday316 Год назад

I find all of your post relateable. One thing that helped the.. person.. I know dealing with it was to have compassion for their alters. The more self love and self compassion the lesser the symptoms from their experience.

@aspengreen4319 2 месяца назад

THIS!! I don’t think everyone should be expected to keep something so impactful a secret, but saying it online is just signaling youre vulnerable. I especially feel this way about dissociadid. They were apparently stalked by someone that saw them online, yet they continue to share intimate details about their mental disorder

@XOCailleach161XO Год назад

I got diagnosed in 2015 at 20yo and I'm just so glad it was before tiktok and I didn't contribute or participate in any part of tiktok did culture. It really disturbs me what this social contagion is doing to kids :(

@leowidows Год назад

i got diagnosed at 20 too!

@rulerzreachf4n200 Год назад

WARNING ⚠️ this comment is a mini rant so if you don’t wanna read it that’s okay!! /gen I’m 20 years old and I suspect something isn’t right but I also can’t get over the denial and self hatred ;u; sorry for the random reply btw I just don’t know what to do. Every time I see any evidence to suggest I miGHT have alters (I don’t have many and there’s 2 that “switch” the most) I just very easily go back to denying it. Yesterday/last night an “alter” spoke to a friend for ages and I went to read it all back but it sends me spiralling and I just don’t know what to do. Is there anything you did to help you? I know talking to a doctor will probably help but I’m so scared people will think I’m crazy because I FEEL crazy

@Skinnypeoplelietoo Год назад

@@rulerzreachf4n200I'm not trying to diagnose anyone with anything, however, denial is a symptom of DID. If you're genuinely concerned please do reach out for help, no professional doctor or psychologist should ever make fun of you because you're struggling with something. It's worth getting checked if you're struggling, it could be something completely unrelated, something untreated that could actually be treatable and can make a difference in your life. I hope you find answers and ways to cope or feel better with whatever you have going on regardless of the diagnosis 🤝

@Tiffany-pz6dj Год назад

@@rulerzreachf4n200you’re not “crazy.” You need help and it’s out there. Get help so you can have some peace of mind. ❤

@shiruki8974 Год назад

@@rulerzreachf4n200 definitely reach out to a professional. They're there to help you figure out what's going on and what to do about it. You don't need to figure this stuff out alone. There's no such thing as crazy, just ill, and in need of help

@jonarbuckle 2 года назад

I thought Oliver's introduction was bout to turn into a trap remix

@screw_it_why_not 29 дней назад

💀💀

@michelle_mana 2 года назад

CORRECTION: many systems do have 'natural' inner worlds!! Please respond with any other corrections!

@questionablevampire5002 2 года назад

Hiya, DID system twice diagnosed by medical professionals here. The thing that was said by the person in the clip towards the beginning about DID presentation is not necessarily true, especially with teenagers. Teenagers can present with fully separated and differentiated alters. I wish the person had done more research (especially if they're a singlet), or talked to multiple medical professionals (not just the one) before jumping to the conclusion and posting that all teenagers claiming to have "full did" are lying. That one comment was quite jarring to us. Timestamp: 1:45

@monarch_apostate Год назад

@@questionablevampire5002 I have to agree, I am a Polyfragmented System myself with just turning 20 and I had a general reaction of "wtf?" when that came up.

@Cheeky_Chipppz 7 месяцев назад

polyfragmentation means more than complex alters or more than 'x' amount of alters, it means theres a complex innerworld and complex and multifaceted alter roles with many types of amnesia ranging from no amnesia between some parts and full amnesia between other parts. it usually stems from trauma that is so harmful to the child that they not only split, but the brain says that they *must* split *multiples* at a time to survive. i am a professionally diagnosed polyfragmented DID system, so all of this is from my own experience and with experience with friends who are polyfragmended as well.

@HeyItsCaz 2 месяца назад

@@audriacostello6648 found the rage baiter :p

@Long_Lost_Lover 2 месяца назад

Bro I thought in the first clip the fake stuttering person in the beginning was gonna say the n word I got so scared

@screw_it_why_not 29 дней назад

That’s exactly what my girlfriend said and that’s exactly what I was thinking 😂 they had me on the edge of my seat with that stutter. Would make a good remix if it had a solid beat behind it hehe

@Jack-ww5hw Год назад

I do want to say that you absolutely can and do have distinct alters during teenage years (and before). I don't quite know where this myth came from in recent years, but it isn't the case

@leebliss3622 6 месяцев назад

it probably came from the mountains of psychiatric and general medical research done on the topic, research you likely will never have access to and wouldn't understand unless you had a 12+yr background in medical science, that's why formal diagnosis is important, even if it's hard to get.

@Jack-ww5hw 6 месяцев назад

@@leebliss3622 The research doesn't say that anywhere..... Experts have never said that at all, they do in fact say the opposite 😂😂

@Altereddandelion 8 месяцев назад

I've only watched the first 15min but, I'm a professionally diagnosed system after 11 years in therapy and a lot of what she says could be plausible, but what I find suspicious is that there's no genuine fear or fight, flight freeze responses. And ok then you'd say she wouldn't film it but somehow she has enough content? I feel like 65% of the rest of my parts are in absolute horror and fear all the time and go in trauma responses.

@Mintflavoredgum 2 года назад

It just feels like people are LARPing characters they've made up to help cope with things they can't handle in life on their own. When it comes to reactions to food intolerances being different, symptoms can vary based on one's state of mind. If one is anxious, they're more likely to feel more intense symptoms or feel things that aren't really there. Psychosomatic. So, if you're LARPing as a character that is more self-assured and less afraid of the intolerance symptoms, you'll feel it less. People don't have actual human (or non human) souls inhabiting the same body. People who claim to have POC alters in a white body for example are really problematic because that alter is always based on the perception of that ethnicity by the white host and will not/can not have the lived experience that would connect them to their culture. So why mention them being POC at all? It just goes back to the harmful "inner black girl" trope people use to excuse themselves of acting like that perceived stereotypical behavior of being sassy. Do I believe DID exists? Yes. I believe a person can compartmentalize or split off aspects of a single personality and sort of "change" into that personality to cope with traumatic situations. I do not believe they are self-aware, contained people with histories/races/cultures outside of the realm of the host. Genders are an exception since all people can experience gender roles and feel different ways about them. I think people are very creative and need to play TTRPGs with the characters they create. Those characters aren't real though. But I guess if it helps, believing that people live in your body with you, there's not a lot of harm in it. Unless you start using your "alters" as an excuse to get away with harmful actions/behaviors.

@puppytopartnertraining Год назад

I feel this I feel like people sometimes are using DID as an excuse to embody "characters" which the single personality they have, have just made up. And not obtained through the extensive process of non integration as a child due to trauma building amnesiac walls separating the identity parts of a child. And in reality they know all these details because they made them up. I still have no idea of some of my parts other than their names and what they look like because they have been through so much that they don't talk about themselves or feel comfortable being near the front of our consciousness. I still can't admit that there is more than me in my head let alone share such detailed things about myself and them. Not to mention that it's so easy to embody a "alter" on camera but to have it last past the camera being off is another story. Plus she never shows proof of her diagnosis or input from family or friends. And anyone can learn the lingo and run with it. While acting out "parts". Idk I can't even get comfortable telling anyone outside of my close circle about my DID because of fear of people thinking I'm faking despite sometimes being a completely different person just acting like me, for my comfort, in front of them. My opinion. Thanks if you read.

@amyfu2047 Год назад

@@erssiemajor8010 hey Erssie. For myself, I definitely don’t have alters who match all of those descriptions. 😝 i do have a Goth alter but I had a “goth phase” in highschool. As for fairies and things… I have no explanation as I don’t have any experience within my own system.

@Evelyn_Cassidy Год назад

Alters often form based on things that you found comforting when the traumas take place, that's actually why nonhuman alters or even fictional characters or real people. These are things they found comfort in. In polyfragmented systems they happen when a system continues to experience trauma after the point their DID formed (there has to have been repeated trauma before the age of ten for DID to form)

@jovanstanojevic2038 8 месяцев назад

Honestly, I think it's possible that they developed 70 new alter in 3 months. Tiktok is not really healthy space. Plus, they were getting so much hate and ridicule, so I think it's theoretically possible. However, I still think this particular person is faking it.

@vomgurl 3 месяца назад

i feel like alot of these teens and young adults would really do better just trying to use tulpas to cope instead of pretending to have disorders they dont understand.... thats how i cope with my trauma, the most important comfort characters of mine became my tulpas and theyve helped me feel alot less lonely and isolated. tulpas are basically just imaginary friends, but more concrete and theyre more like their own people, just vibing in your headspace. people that arent systems can have inner worlds, like you said in the video most of them tend to be created intentionally for theraputic purposes, and thats where your tulpas can hang out when youre not interacting with them and stuff. its fun, its calming, and its improved my mental health alot. i cant imagine wanting to BE my tulpas though, i dont think they would appreciate that much, considering theyre their own people to me, but hey, thats just my own experience. idk if other people actually treat their tulpas like real people lmao, lmk if im cringe or whatever, i just thought my opinion was neat and worthy of sharing haha

@vomgurl 3 месяца назад

and another side note, i dont know how the wonderland system thinks saying they are a traumagenic system makes them more valid?? it makes it worse, because its so obvious that they are definitely not someone who has DID... the symptoms just dont line up. i wish they wouldnt take away credit from people that actually need help and acceptance, bc now ironically by trying to make people more accepting theyre just making people more ableist toward systems...... its sad really, cant they just make themselves some tulpas and call it a day? tulpas arent much different to alters, one is just forcefully given to you due to trauma and the other is willingly made to cope with already existing trauma. just use your imagination for good, not for lies.... just be honest and give yourself imaginary friends. sure people will say youre cringe, but at least youre not apropriating someones real mental struggles and spreading misinformation to gullible children....

@katherinemccall637 11 месяцев назад

I can't explain it but anime is responsible for this

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

LMAO too real😭😭😭

@timetravelkitty425 Год назад

They should consider malignant narcissism for moat of these kids faking DID. Like how self centered and selfish

@l.c.7756 5 месяцев назад

It would just be narcissistic personality disorder, malignant narcissism requires sadism and antisocial behavior to be present. But I agree

@growoldwithme5733 5 месяцев назад

Malignant narcissists are dangerous, the term malignant has to do with sadism, enjoying causing pain or suffering and it’s often violent. Narcissism as a personality disorder is a lot more complex and many people can be insecure and deeply selfish without having NPD.

@LeatherCladVegan Год назад

In my years on Planet Earth, I have met one person who had a real problem with 'being different people at different times'. I am unsure of any diagnosis she received, but she was messed up. She was facing prison time because her 'alt' was a compulsive thief. She herself was not a thief or anything like it, she was a cool person with a big heart. The thefts that she undertook as her 'alternate personality' made no sense. For instance, she might steal hundreds of kilograms of dog food, never having had a dog. Or perhaps she would steal a consignment of 20 zookeeper's uniforms. Her reasons for doing so made as much sense to us as they did to her; she had no idea why her alternate personality would steal such things. It was completely out of her hands. I remember reading some of her court documents to her, and she was just laughing at how absurd her criminal actions were. They were absurd, but very serious. There was nothing anybody could really do, not any of us, and certainly not her. I had a terrible feeling that the system was going to treat her poorly for the simple fact that it was impossible for her to be genuinely sorry for something that she herself had not actually done. It was a tricky situation. It was all very sad, and I hope she managed to stay out of prison because she was a good person.

@ohitsolly677 4 месяца назад

Jesus Christ that first clip caught me off guard As a Brit called Ophelia, please STOP 😭

@Sydney.2003k Год назад

The part where they say "the body cant do hobbies and skills that the alter fronting can do". Is one of the reasons why I think theyee faking. Yes, the alter 100% can! (Unless it's like physical, aka gymnastics and bending flexibly lol) But I, personally cannot do makeup to save my life, however, one of my 'alts' can

@Mike-th8um Год назад

You don't have alts shut up and stop pretending.

@senthecat14 Год назад

A lot of things we mysteriously knew how to make, especially in the musical and artists fields and our host always wondered how it was possible until we got our diagnosis. For example, a few alters know how to play specific instruments with ease, while some cannot.

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

I don’t have DID so take what I say with a grain of salt, But I believe this occurs due to difference in memories? Say you had two alters: Mike, and Sam. Sam loves to do makeup. They watched a RU-vid tutorial and now wears eyeliner. Great. Then, when Mike is fronting, Mike will likely experience this amnesia phenomenon that happens when people “switch” and have no idea what Sam was up to when Sam was fronting. Mike doesn’t remember that RU-vid tutorial. How can Mike possibly remember how to use eyeliner? See what I mean? Idk 🤷

@ffawn 2 года назад

Commenting for boost! Great video as always, you and Grayson project are the only ones Ive seen talking about this topic. Idk why im so obsessed with this person, I think is just so interesting

@michelle_mana 2 года назад

THANK

@LiveYourLifeForJesus 6 месяцев назад

They keep reading off something!!!😡 Look just after 35:00.

@fabuloussloth8670 5 месяцев назад

0:09 , 0:36 I’ve stuttered/stammered almost my whole life (just started seeing a speech therapist) so this was upsetting. (I’m a part-time AAC user.)

@ohboy-zi1yf Месяц назад

was looking for another person who thought the same...their ""stutter"" sounds like what kids in elementary school would do to mock someone's stammering

@geektanic 3 месяца назад

I am literally like 25 seconds in and would like to say that I have tics from psych meds when I was a teen and reflexively apologize every time...but that's because it happens, at absolute max, like once or twice a week

@hannahgilan8504 2 месяца назад

I was diagnosed in my late teen years, I had been in psychological treatment for most of my life. I didn't know, that alters weren't properly formed, but looking back I can see it clearly. It was a scary time and now the distinctions are clearer. It is still a terrifying disorder and if I could choose not to have it, I 100% wouldn't. I hope, that the kids that fake DID get some help, even faking a disorder is sign of something being wrong.

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

I write stories, one of them I’ve been working on for over 5 years now, it’s extremely discombobulated and not really about anything in particular, more like a way for me to create new characters with new stories because that’s what I like doing. Lol. (Though it does have 4 MAIN characters) Anyway, it has a shitload of characters. Including all the side characters, there’s like, 107 of them. And I can never remember them all, either. The notion that this person possibly had 274 alters, and when they switched alters, that alter was able to remember who the other 273 were, is wild. Also, isn’t it my understanding that certain alters are possibly NOT aware of the other alters / the inner world the rest of the alters are part of? I don’t know. 274 alters just doesn’t seem to make sense. I’m sure it’s possible in an extremely, extremely traumatized person, but as we can see from this video and the information provided, it’s pretty clear that this person is faking.

@MacDaddyTRL 2 года назад

From some research I’ve done with the whole lactose thing is that some people believe it’s possible and some believe the opposite but there have been reports of it being true. When one is in front and they have lactose it can effect them like anyone else with an intolerance but another is out and they like eat the same shit and don’t have it. I’m not going into detail I just thought it was interesting but there’s not much stuff on it because it’s only recently being talked about more and more and like being documented. A therapist once told me that alters and stuff can surface earlier, like in the teens, when they’re in a safer environment and the brain can decide to let loose ig? Like “oh you’re safe? Here, deal with all this we’ve been saving for ya” Dealing with ptsd myself, that’s kinda what happened with my flashbacks. They got worse when I was in a safe place because I could safely react to them. I still get them when I’m not as safe but they’re more abundant when working through them with a professional and in a safe place. I wrote a lot, sorry lol. Have a good day!

@Evelyn_Cassidy Год назад

There's also been cases where systems in a body with normal vision have alters with decreased visibility or some that have difficulty walking despite the body being capable of walking, it's honestly fascinating

@camerokid78 Год назад

That makes no sense. Lactose intolerance is the result of an enzyme deficiency.

@MacDaddyTRL Год назад

@@camerokid78 you know, instead of spreading negativity in other DID related comments why don’t you read a book or take a bath, maybe get out the house. Just walking outside for like 5-10 minutes a day can drastically improve your mood. Don’t have to listen to me but I think it might be nice to take a break, I’m sure you deserve it(: have a good night, I assume it’s night anyway.

@camerokid78 Год назад

@@MacDaddyTRL Which personality is this?

@MacDaddyTRL Год назад

@@camerokid78 ? I don’t think I ever mentioned I was a system but even if I did I don’t think I’d have to disclose that information. I’m just saying that maybe you should try and stick to your own business before rudely commenting on another’s. Idk why you’re so upset but I hope whatever clouds your mind if anything does it clears up(:🌸

@jessicagraham734 Год назад

I wonder if this girl was diagnosed with a dissociative disorder and she is confusing this with multiple personality. I at got diagnosed with complex ptsd and a bad disassociation disorder and have taken steps to learn when and why and how to correct my situation. I got asked a lot of questions about disassociation as in did and i had to tell people i dont have did but then they call my diagnosis a fake one and i have my paperwork and mine got diagnosed at 29 im in my 30s now so idk she might have looked up the wrong thing?

@catboysephiroth560 5 месяцев назад

Probably. DPDR(Depersonalization/derealization) is a staple in having DID or OSDD, but it's like squares and rectangles. DID is a disassociative disorder, but not all disassociative disorders are DID.

@baileymoran8585 2 месяца назад

I have dissociative symotoms. While trying to understand this I found this person and others in their brand of DID content, and I thought ‘god I hope I don’t have this diagnosis. I do not want to be lumped in with this.’ I still don’t know for sure if I have the diagnosis because it takes it so long to manifest and my symptoms have changed in recent years, including becoming more frequent. I have learned through actual professionals that the actual disorder is much harder to recognize as your symptoms/alters often try to blend as to stay hidden from you and others. The disorder revolves around hiding trauma from yourself and often others, and while some will one day just introduce themselves as a different person, it’s not how most people end up in therapy. It’s a lot of lapses in awareness and hearing people say you seemed off in some way, and ending up places you didn’t plan on going, with no memory of why you went there. It is actually quite scary to experience. Now, if a therapist says that dressing your alters up and making videos to educate people is healthy, then it probably is for that individual. But there is no talk about ‘I just do this for videos because you can’t just change 5 times a day and I try not to draw attention to it’ or ‘my therapist agrees that this is helping me deal with what is often a painful and terrifying disorder but some people may not benefit from this.’ It makes the whole thing look like it’s just a fun experience that people should want to have, like imaginary friends you can become for a few hrs. Trauma disorders are not fun. They are maladaptive if they warrant a diagnosis. I think I’m some cases these people do believe they have it and it’s actually some sort of psychosis or they have fictitious disorder syndrome, or they do experience some other form of dissociation from some other trauma disorder and have influenced these symptoms to escalate. But some really just seem like they want to have it because they think it’s fun, and that’s the vibe I get here.

@VittaVendetta 2 месяца назад

Hello Michelle, new sub here, I have a little advice/request, I have adhd and dyslexia (also I'm spanish and reading english subs) and I found really difficult see the video listening your voice and trying to read/see the background video. Maybe you could put the tiktoks with modified audio to avoid problems and then talk? and that way it is easier to understand you and the content you want to teach us. The only thing different is that your video would be a little longer. This is a suggestion, not a criticism at all! Maybe someone on the adhd team has also had trouble concentrating :')

@Honey_hivez 2 месяца назад

It annoys me so much about how openly they spoke about their youngest alters age. If they really think they have did and think that their alters are all separate people, you would NEVER talk about a child’s age on the internet. Its not safe

@TheSleepSteward 6 месяцев назад

Only about a minute and a bit in and at around 1:25 ; a blanket statement is made that every teenager is faking it because of XYZ. That's not true. Depending on how significant the trauma during childhood; it's very much possible that a person becomes very fragmented before they even enter their 20s. And we also haven't had the best understanding of the condition until now so people who have had it for decades are only really getting diagnosed because of the better understanding and then a few other nuances. I just wouldn't say a blanket statement like that. That all teens who say they have it are definitely lying. Because that's not at all true. Is it more often diagnosed later in life? Yes. Does it mean that younger people with it are lying? No. In fact, symptoms of DID can appear in children less than 10 years of age. I don’t know where on Earth this person got their research from but it’s just wrong and it’s genuinely possibly dangerous misinformation to say something like that. Especially for a condition that people already deny having because of a whole barrage of reasons. And they can go untreated as a result. And early detection of anything is crucial in planning for the future.

@tescoessentialssoup 2 месяца назад

i used to be best friends with someone who claims to have upwards of 700 alters, majority fictive introjects when we were thirteen/fourteen up to a month after i turned fifteen. it really makes you question your own sense of reality.

@SoCalJellybean 2 месяца назад

Yeah, I’ve never seen any of these fakers with right-wing alters… like, EVER! That would actually be hilarious! 🤣

@haylene7521 День назад

The "alter" calling themself "it" is so disgusting. How can you think something is cute about being called "it"?

@The_Lemurian_Witch13 6 месяцев назад

I was diagnosed with DID last week on Wednesday and honestly I don’t know if I was diagnosed too early or not because I’ve only seen my psychiatrist for one session before the diagnosis

@watchspotting 2 года назад

The accents are what do it for me

@lucifrogg 2 месяца назад

I think it is possible to have an idea that you're a system in teenagehood, but you'll probably not be able to get a diagnosis for it that early on. You most likely won't have ANY idea what's going on until later on because the disorder tries to hide itself from you to protect you. We had no idea we were a system until it was something we literally could not ignore. The loss of time, realizing there's a lot we don't actually remember, having thoughts with voices or ideas or morals separate from your own, etc. It is so difficult to get diagnosed because this disorder is still not understood well and because there is so much stigma surrounding it. I don't believe you need a diagnosis to figure it out, but like. I just don't believe them when they say they have one :/ and I don't think people should be treating this person like they are the end all be all spokesperson on DID at such a young age. I sure as hell know that I wouldn't want to have all that pressure or eyes on me that young describing in detail a disorder that impacts every aspect of my life. Talking about these things are fine and you're obviously allowed to share these things, but man I would not be doing that on tiktok. They seem like a nice person and are probably plural in some way because it seems they believe it so wholeheartedly, but I think they need to step back from the internet and focus on healing and understanding themselves and the disorder before spreading misinformation or putting themself in the position to recieve death threats like they've gotten :(

@stuckandsnuck 10 дней назад

i have DID symptoms, talked to my therapist about it, and eventually got diagnosed with severe DPDR disorder or depersonalization derealization disorder. its pretty easy, from multiple personal experiences, to mistake certain disorders with others. in my personal experiences i have OCD "traits" but i dont have ocd. i have bipolar "traits" but i have MDD. theres lots of overlapping within mental disorders because we are human after all and symptoms will always combine and collide. its best not to jump to conclusions but to look through other perspectives. diagnoses are just clusters of symptoms with a name. its best to understand yourself as an individual than try to fit into a box. its ok to feel out of place and lost. theres no need to force yourself someplace you dont belong, like into a cluster of symptoms, just to fit in somewhere.

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

I already made a long ass comment but here’s one more - I am a writer. This means I know a lot of shit about “natural dialogue” and also how things such as STUTTERS WORK. Some writers write out stutters as “Th-that’s not t-t-t-true…” which, FYI, is not how stutters usually work. Kids who are still learning how to read talk like that, but typically, stutters are more like: “that… that’s not… not true.” Repeating a word they are struggling saying or fumbling over numerous times. (Anyone who does have a stutter, feel free to correct me. I know it presents itself in different ways, but I think you’ll find that you agree with my final point.) My final point being: THIS PERSONS STUTTERS are VERY OBVIOUSLY fake 😭😭😭 Oooooohhhh it’s painful to watch😅

@GjoobAndSkarmory 6 месяцев назад

A A A A A J J J J JAY 🔥🔥

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

It’s a trap remix fellas

@octopode170 10 дней назад

the person you showed at the very beginning makes me wanna tear my eyes out. not necessarily because they are entirely wrong, but because they use such absolute terms. i have seen with my own two eyes people as young as 12 with distinct alters and amnesiac symptoms. i have BEEN someone with distinct alters and amnesiac symptoms as young as 16! using blanket terms like that is perhaps the worst way to make a point, as it totally denies the existence of certain edge cases such as myself. i would like to reiterate that they make a good point, just with far too exclusive wording.

@aditi1998 2 месяца назад

Heres the thing, im a person with a diagnosed PD and multiple other mood disorders (and not DID). I think strong and unapologetic criticism of very obvious fakers for something like DID is more in favor of real patients than harmful for them. I understand why fake-claiming can be harmful. But thresholds are subjective to the climate of any given time. I think given todays climate, critique for DID ✨️content✨️ creators (including and especially dissociadid and the likes) is important. It, i hope, doesn't harm real patients, but supports them from fetishism, taboo, sensationalization etc.

@mollyoxy Месяц назад

What I don't understand is how all these people with "DID" are aware of the situation they're in when switching (ex. dissociadid in that one interview). The whole point of the brain splitting personalities is to protect the main one from trauma. So 1. switching would only occur during traumatic situations and 2. the main host should have NO memory of what happened during that situation and vice versa. And yet dissociadid and other fake did people switch willingly and during non-traumatic situations. And she even carried on with the interview with no memory loss.... I believe DID is real, but not anything like what these fake DIDers explain it is. I believe some of the fake DIDers may have actually had DID in the PAST and are just clinging to their diagnosis despite not having it anymore.

@jesteric 3 месяца назад

my personal weird take about the wonderland system is that, they change they're appearance everytime a different alter fronts, though it is possible because maybe the alter wants to try and look more like themselves when they front, especially if the system is more open, but this.. oh.. they just changed their entire appearance, from dying their hair and everything, also with that many alters i though they could just be wearing a wig, i don't think they are wearing a wig at all, yeah that's my comment for now ^_^

@TippyTappyToes2620 2 месяца назад

She seems like a genuinely sweet person, hope she's not faking cus it'll put people off making friendships with her in the future. She'll be deemed a liar & no one wants to be friends with someone who can lie so easily. But, if she's genuinely been diagnosed, then she's no reason to lie 🙂

@KuriousCitten Год назад

9:30 It’s also possible for alters themselves to split! You can also have alters appear without ever being fully fledged, and will often fade overtime, or hang around. With Fictives/Factives, often I believe their alters like before, weren’t necessarily fully fledged. Then latch onto a comfort character as an identity! I don’t have this but I believe they are valid! Also, look up Jennifer Haynes, the woman with 2500 personalities! It’s a good watch if you want to learn about her story with D.I.D.! (Edit: Funny thing too, despite it being called Dissociative IDENTITY disorder, our feelings on our identity is actually very far away. Even after being diagnosed for years, it definitely hasn’t gotten better)

@KuriousCitten Год назад

@@ijustrealllylikecats Oh no, a harmless fact that educates and doesn’t affect me has for some reason offended me to the point where I felt the need to comment in retaliation. Even though in the long run it will have no affect on me whatsoever except giving me the feeling that I’ve somehow put myself on top of the conversation. Thank you for your insightful comment ♥️

@KuriousCitten Год назад

@@ijustrealllylikecats I’ve also gone out of my way to twist the perception of a condition that I obviously have no real knowledge about because you couldn’t believe that something has become ‘common’ when in reality it’s more common than other well known disorders. That maybe because more people are speaking up more people feel comfortable expressing themselves despite knowing they’ll be called liars otherwise. I believe I have power to cover up ‘Fakeclaiming’ as just pointing out the obvious ♥️

@senthecat14 Год назад

Exactly what happened with us. We are mostly organic, but we all decided to look like certain characters to hide from our host until she got her diagnosis (some did end up copying the characters almost 100%). It worked surprisingly well as she only learned and got diagnosed this year at 24.

@FUCKSICKOS66 11 месяцев назад

@@senthecat14🤣 it doesn’t work like that

@senthecat14 11 месяцев назад

@@FUCKSICKOS66 Do you have the disorder? If not you can't speak by experience. We're officially diagnosed and we're just telling our experience with it

@ayden1152 Месяц назад

i got into a fight with them over their tourette’s and stutter

@tlwf.system 5 месяцев назад

10:11 glad you added that in, we are poly frag. It’s still confusing and I’m 33 😅

@shylyblair9549 2 года назад

9:30 It is possible to gain multiple alters in a short time spam However, as you said, that usually happens if you're going through severe trauma Sometimes it can happen from an alter having a fixation on a character or a person in real life as the brain wants to help cope with the trauma they have causing a fictive/factive/splitroject to form I may be wrong with this, so don't take my word for granted I hope this helps with your question though ^^

@michelle_mana 2 года назад

Thank you!

@shylyblair9549 2 года назад

@@michelle_mana You're welcome!

@Jesse_2302 2 года назад

OSDD system here Within a month we got around 10+ alters, 2 alters within a few days so yea pretty sure it's possible

@emmaalbers6320 2 года назад

Definitely possible. Also could be alters showing themselves/becoming a known part of the system after being blocked off by amnesia. This happened to my partner system over the course of a few months once they started accepting their diagnosis (years after originally being diagnosed). Discovered 15-20 alters in the period of 5-6 months or so, and also had a couple splits here and there within it.

@strawbabyboy666 Год назад

We are not diagnosed yet, trying to get a diagnosis, but this is just so so harmful. When we were 10 we had a huge hyperfixation on learning about disorders and stumbled upon DID/OSDD. When we went deep into the research we realized that we matched most of the symptoms. Didn’t think much of it and thought we probably had schizophrenia or a psychotic disorder (we have visual and auditory hallucinations. We know when they aren’t hallucinations because when we communicate it feels like a whole other consciousness). But no. It took us like two/three years to comprehend that it wasn’t just hallucinations. We’re turning 14 (bodily) soon and the host is honestly scared. This isn’t fun or quirky. It’s genuinely scary. A bunch of us aren’t even fully formed. Someone could kill us one day or harm someone else. It’s not all fun and games. The identity alteration plays a huge part, so does derealization. It feels like you’re not yourself, like your sense of self and reality is deteriorating in front of you, and it’s horrifying. Thank you for making this. -Mikey

@Jenni-bx1qu Год назад

I would be careful, if you're not fully diagnosed. Go to a therapist please if possible.

@strawbabyboy666 10 месяцев назад

@@AwkwardCat23 thank u so much I just saw this :3 I didn’t know Mikey watched these haha im glad 2 know that ppl care !!! -Amie, host

@anaitm8103 5 месяцев назад

look i’m not trying to be rude but you are exactly the type of person this video is about. i understand you’re young so i hope you’re serious about seeking professional help

@strawbabyboy666 5 месяцев назад

@@anaitm8103 I am :) I am currently in therapy and I think it is just.. complex ptsd or something! I don’t know but I guess I tried to fit in or something.. I have gone thru sexual trauma and stuff so yeah, I am in therapy at the moment trying to get everything figured out, thank you so much :3

@anaitm8103 5 месяцев назад

@@strawbabyboy666nice!! cptsd gang 😎

@YourBoyMcTwizzle 7 дней назад

How can you have an alter that speaks in a british accent if you are not british or never lived there?

@thediscographysystem 11 месяцев назад

1:02 so here, this might be true, but then wouldn't that mean that who originally thought they were the only one there ALSO not fully formed? Plus, if alters are supposed to protect the host/body from trauma, how are they supposed to do that when they aren't formed??

@hanayaoliveira1988 Год назад

I think you cant be diagnosted as a teeneger because into the age of 25+ your brains are still very fluid and addaptive. No one have a personality cristalized at this point in life. Somehow similar to ASPD being not a diagnost in teens because they can 'outgrown it' or not. However what i really fear from that tik tok trend is that teens are just convinced they have it and are welcoming the symtomes and even amplifing it and i think many might get the disorder as adults in full agonizing true form, witch is never funny and cute but very distressefull.

@evamarie2247 Год назад

I agree but try telling that to the tiktok world. Iv been slammed trying to explain this stuff and I was the second most sever abused child in Wisconsin! I joined tiktok to find others like me. Wow did I find out how cold and mean it is. So I started posting on U tube where things are more excepted and understood. Been fighting this disorder for 20 some years. I read on it and am disabled with it. My Kids and husband deal with it. So angry and tired of this trend all of a sudden.

@ashcosplays7128 2 месяца назад

At the beginning, you mention how they wouldn't be apologizing if they have tics. That's not necessarily true. I have a few vocal tics, and I almost always apologize for them. That's just me, because I'm really self-conscious, and I promise I don't mean for this to be rude! Just a genuine correction!

@Surpriseattackninja 6 месяцев назад

9:54 anything is possible if youre lying

@fabianafagundezmuniz8119 Год назад

Wait wait wait, I saw that Michelle doesen't have hair, it's so cute, I wear it like that too, and just wanted to point out that I love it.

@marstrull Год назад

When you get diagnosed with different illnesses a lot of the time they’ll ask you if you have certain symptoms that would qualify you to possibly have this disorder and you usually have to have a certain amount of symptoms to get diagnosed. Every Illness is different with what qualify’s you with that disorder and the number of symptoms/traits you need to have

@emmahunts4499 Год назад

Did diagnostic test is not like that.

@jamiepianist Год назад

Great explanations, but I feel like the audio is a little disorienting (especially with the muted, moving TikToks in the background); taking fewer takes could help, but I enjoyed the video a lot overall

@randomness454 3 месяца назад

Saying someone is faking DID without diagnosis is like all of tiktok

@jayjay1443 3 месяца назад

Yeah, my alters don't have names, or different voices😂😂

@livelaughlovemilfs1520 3 месяца назад

all i can think abt anytime someone mentions DID is that one guy from total drama

@TippyTappyToes2620 2 месяца назад

What i don't understand is why none of the tik tok DID sufferers experience paid when switching & why they all can "feel" a switch comin on enough to where they can record it. Having researched (a little) i know you don't switch unless triggered & a trigger can be a sound, a scent, or something bigger like an unexpected touch from an unexpected person, for example. And the true sufferers have a lot of other illnesses alongside & because of DID that cause a lot of pain, something no tik tok DID "sufferer" seems to have. I also don't think a lot of them have thought about this long term or what it'll be like trying to get a job in a few years. It looks exhausting imo, having to not only remember which "alter" you are from hour to hour but also remembering to tic vocally & physically if you're claiming to have tourretts too, which i've seen many of them do. Sorry for my massive comment it just upsets me cus true sufferers of DID BPD (i myself have BPD as well as depression, CPTSD, anxiety, anger management problems, CHT, AHT & 2 things that naturally mess with your mental health is insomnia & sleepwalking so i'm a bit of a mixed bag basket case 👍🏻🤪👍🏻) thank you to anyone that read my book length comment 👋🏻 Byeee!

@buttercxpdraws8101 Год назад

I feel sorry for her. She desperately needs attention for some reason and she will be so embarrassed by this in the future I would imagine.

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

I know! Every time I see people acting like this (or just cringe in general) my first thought is “this will haunt them when they’re 45…”

@xavierrose8208 Год назад

The first one “Hey I’m-“ looks away to left, which means processing a lie- “I’m Zee” lol Bitch have your script ready before you press record 😂😂

@leebliss3622 6 месяцев назад

that isn't necessarily true, deception detection is an inexact science and not every person has the same exact functioning when it come's to things like this

@LiveYourLifeForJesus 6 месяцев назад

P.s. Thank you for this video😊

@unstablesystem22 2 месяца назад

I don't understand people who fake disorders such as DID or any others that have been floating around they're very hard to live with so why would you desire such?

@MasterStitch..162 2 месяца назад

I was diagnosed by my doctors in 5 different states that i have D.I.D

@ffspeople1 2 месяца назад

how do these peoples alters know theyre filming an alter introduction video? with 274 alters, did she just do a whole Q&A without one popping in? yeah, shes lying

@confirmedcabbage7663 2 месяца назад

9:40 polyfrag system here! from personal experience, it's definitely possible!, but 100% they would've had to be going through something *b ad*

@kat4552 11 дней назад

Their account has gone public again

@raymondparnell439 10 месяцев назад

My ex didnt have names . It tool me 20 yrs to see it. Its absolute real but. Its not easy to see .

@drowningincheese2453 Год назад

204 alters? I can’t even remember 10 alters at most ?!

@TheBoyofHearts Год назад

Can my alter-ego be removed from my body with the right exposure therapy?

@Flyingsearat 9 месяцев назад

Not really ??? 😭 as in not removed but with alters in did/osdd you would go through integration if you wanted your alters “”removed””

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

Alter-egos are kinda different from actual alters among people with DID. No, you cannot get rid of ALTERS, but alter-egos, sure. DEPENDING on the situation. If you don’t have any particular disorder, and rather, just find yourself acting as though you have two different personalities (maybe because you act different around different people, etc,) you can get rid of it. Mostly, it’s a lot self reflection and thinking about who you really are, rather than pretending to be a different person in different situations. It’s like… a self discovery journey. Yeah.

@virgilzdemon8505 Год назад

My partner has BPD and experience did like symptoms.

@ng3414 Год назад

As someone with BPD myself, I experience many DID like symptoms too! I have kinda like... "parts," not fully formed alters like many of these people claim to have. I find it easier to express myself when I differentiate these "parts" separately but I would never go outta my way to say I have full fledged DID like many of these people do.

@Jenni-bx1qu Год назад

Isn't it because you dissociate with bpd? There are different scales on how bad someone could dissociate. DID is supposed to be the strongest form. Many mental illnesses have dissociation as I understand it.

@Jenni-bx1qu Год назад

@@ng3414 I don't think you'd call them alters. Don't bpd "just" have a lack of self Identity. Not knowing who you are. That's something completely different.

@ng3414 Год назад

@@Jenni-bx1qu Please re-read more carefully. I said I WOULDN'T call them alters, because I know they are not. And it's more than just not knowing who you are, it also involves dissociation, extreme emotional instability, impulsive behaviour and oftentimes self harm, it's much more than an identity crisis. It's a serious disorder.

@bryanthomas4907 6 месяцев назад

BPD can be a nightmare. It's like housing a never ending bubbling pool of psychopathic rage that I have to constantly suppress

@StarboyJuno 2 года назад

I am a rather large OSDD system(~40), the body is also a teenager I think the reason that in the past Dissociative disorders only came to light in the middle ages was a result of the fact that it was harder to get information on these things. I think the fact that we had so many resources even from our tweens helped us learn and adapt faster to be able to recognize what we were: a system I think invalidating every system who happens to be younger is a little misguided although I agree with being skeptical of systems online because of all the fakers out there. Some things that don't automatically make a system invalid: -Headspaces/Inner worlds -Lots of alters, polyfragmented systems are valid -Diagnosed/figured out young -Alters dating (or having any number of relationships) -Fictives, factives and introjects in general and much much more This disorder is complicated and every case is bound to be different, I agree wonderland is suspicious but saying things like "they're 18 so they're faking" or "the DSM-5 is what people say to sound smart" can be stigmatizing Edit: 9:30 Polyfragmented systems are systems that split frequently and abundantly leading systems of upward of 100 alters to be possible, and sometimes two or more alters spit at once so gaining so many in that time can be possible if they were stressed out of going through the process of dealing with truama. During a stressful time my system also gained about 15-20 new alters in less than 4 months because we were being faced with our abuser so yes it is possible and your info was correct :-)

@Mosaichealing 2 года назад

Correction, most ppl only got Dx in later life because they didn’t remember the abuse. These days everyone seems to remember it a lot younger. Maybe that’s due to having access to things like the internet, more articles, stories and books etc

@JaneDoe-ff8sc 2 года назад

@@Mosaichealing exactly. DID IS BULLSHIT.

@feedmewithhate Год назад

"body is a teenager". you don't have DID, you just want to feel special we've all been there, you will grow out of it and cringe at yourself asap when you're older

@StarboyJuno Год назад

@@feedmewithhate I didn't say I had DID, I said OSDD 1B. I know people fake this stuff but we've looked into this alot, worked with a therapist and done alot of self reflection. You're not in the wrong to not automatically believe us but still, saying sh1t like that is just rude, you don't know us our our experience or anything about our lives, trauma, mental health ect. We're a system, we're not going to grow out of it and cringe at ourselves.

@StarboyJuno Год назад

@@Mosaichealing That makes alot of sense aswell, it's become a bit more accessible to get therapy or support so discovering things like truama disorders even exist via media or anything like that definitely leads to people looking internally much earlier to analyze their childhood.

@screw_it_why_not 29 дней назад

Sorry i had to- T-t-t- today Junior

@smoceany9478 2 месяца назад

am i going insane, this video ends with 30 minutes of just their tiktoks, and i cant find a single person talking about it, what the fuck

@screw_it_why_not 29 дней назад

Honestly didnt even think of that cuz i was so busy reading the comments but like lmfao

@copperpumpkin2648 11 месяцев назад

I just want to understand what's wrong with me without having to walk the thin line between not getting help and ending up in the phyce ward. I have been accused of having schizophrenia and dissociative disorders for several years now and it really upsets me because I want to reach out to people with similar struggles but I can't tell who's actually struggling with depersonalization and derealization and who's faking it.

@DissociativeFantasy 3 месяца назад

Didn’t watch the video. Because I don’t know if I should. I’m tired of seeing fake videos about people with DID while you are claiming they are ‘faking’ when they aren’t (no hate towards you for posting) just wanted to know if someone can HONESTLY tell me if it’s hate or truth.

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

The video doesn’t consist of slander towards the person. I think you’ll find that if you watch the video, this person who is claiming to have DID is very clearly faking, and it’s not a blind accusation either. There are numerous factors that make it… obvious. But still, while the comments are harsh, the OP didn’t slander this person, mostly just stated facts to the best of their ability. 👍 But yea, I think due to the stigma created around many disorders DUE to the amount of people who fake, people are accused of faking too often. It’s unfortunate.

@DissociativeFantasy 2 месяца назад

@@johmlemon532 thank you.

@sillyeliiii Год назад

can they have different races?

@joshcagle2395 Год назад

They all seem to be young and white 😅😅

@johmlemon532 2 месяца назад

NO!!!!!!!!! have you seen those people who are RCTA (race change to another)?! If you were WHITE and had an alter who was supposedly a POC, that would be very similar to being RCTA. It’s morally wrong. That alter may appear that way in the headspace, but typically, when that alter is fronting, their conscious thoughts will be AWARE that their body is white (no matter how they may appear in the headspace) and that they will never have to experience what people of colour actually experience due to this fact. I saw a few comments from people who actually have DID stating that this is what they think, as well