The Words of the Emperor

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In April 2012, I traveled throughout northeastern China to report on the Manchu language. Formerly an official state language during the Qing Dynasty, China's last dynasty, Manchu now is on the verge of extinction. There are more than 10 million ethnic Manchus in China, yet fewer than 20 native speakers remain. This short documentary introduces Manchu to those who have little knowledge of the language, and examines the reasons behind the decline of Manchu, the language and the traditions preserved by these last native speakers, and the grassroots efforts to revitalize the language.
There is also a series of videos on Manchu songs and folklore. They are available at the following locations:
• Manchu Origin Myth
• How the Heilongjiang (...
• The legend of Nurhaci ...
• Song of the Young Home...
This project was funded by an Eric Lund Global Reporting and Research Grant from the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University. For more information, go to rowenali.com

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@user-lz7gf3tu8z 10 лет назад

i am manchurian, i am trilingual ( english, chinese and spanish) even some japanese, but however i can NOT speak manchurian language, what a sad thing....

@user-km8vk2cf2m 10 лет назад

how mix are you, far out bro that means your family started to mix from the generation of your nan's nan

@wcchudds1840 9 лет назад

But many of young people from China(Manchurians maybe?) are now trying to learn Manchurians according to this video! Good for Manchurians and diverse culture of China..:) While searching the internet, I was quite surprised to see 'manchurian learning books for Koreans' which were made in medieval ages. I've heard that in a Korean movie, some Korean actors acting Manchurian (bow)warriors learned to speak Manchurian for the movie and they said it was quite easy than they had expected due to grammatical simmilarities.. We're of different culture for sure, however, as there have been a lot of historical events (both wars or peace) among Koreans and Manchurians, I think there might be some hidden heritages of the historic relationship. Greetings from Seoul, Korea

@FootballManagerTaraz 9 лет назад

주우찬 Manchu is Tungusic language with no relation with Korean, Japanese or Chinese.

@wcchudds1840 9 лет назад

Askar Turebekov Thanks for your explanation :) That I heard that the actors found it easy to learn Manchu was not lying, but anyway I could know new one thanks to you.^^ I hope the Manchurian language to be generated to future generation successfully.:)

@FootballManagerTaraz 8 лет назад

kauch kauch Nonsense... Manchus don't relate neither to Koreans nor Japanese... Totally different languages.

@natelsy3277 4 года назад

I am Manchurian. I’m fluently in English, Mandarin Chinese , and french. However I don’t speak a word in Manchu language at all. This saddens me

@kasikasivendjinn5345 3 года назад

Maybe learn it now? Many Chinese material online for learning, it sounds like something between Mandarin and Korean

@khusugten3773 3 года назад

FU Manchu.

@catinabox3048 3 года назад

@@kasikasivendjinn5345 It's not at all related to Mandarin. They're not even part of the same greater language family. They're about as related as an indo-European language would be to Arabic.

@turuus5215 Год назад

You are probably only fluent in Mandarin judging from your English. sorry. Manchu language was neglected a long time and so we should announce that it’s dead.

@justinnamuco9096 27 дней назад

You should learn it. It is a highly attested language. There are a lot of documents to read.

@simonebai4212 6 лет назад

I am from Inner Mongolia, and some of my Manchurian friend and me sometimes can be really cynical about some negative Chinese comments, they want to talk between the two ethnic groups. I admit the thing they accuse, but the truth of unity is not only units some certain groups, is to be open and welcome anyone who want to join. A true friendship is based on accepting and forgiving, not on competing and shading. BY SEPARATING OTHERS, YOU SEPARATE YOURSELF, BY LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF. For deeply resonating to the situation, I give tears and respects to the Manchurian language. By seeing the encouraged comments in Chinese, in English, I just realized how beautiful this world is. For people who lost their mother tongue, listen more, believe less, and keep your faith.

@ericgreen2325 4 года назад

Simone Bai exactly how i believe you bring tears to my eye want to learn mancho leave the past in the past wish others would see it the same way much love to ya

@nicolasgoldring7128 5 лет назад

As a cultural and lingual enthusiast, I'm extremely fascinated and in love with China's 56 ethnic groups, their cultures and their languages. I have a particular passion for the Manchu (Manju Gisun) language, and I've recently found a website on Google where you can learn it. I hope this language can live on forever for generations to come.

@Hiko2120 9 лет назад

it's so sad for a culture nearly extinct :((

@tictactoe101 2 месяца назад

There were thousands kinds of dead languages, even from glorious civilizatiob as ancient egypt. It's just how it is 😢.

@iamobnoxious2236 8 лет назад

I am of teochew and hakka ancestry from Indonesia,my ancestors came from a small village near Guangzhou,which at that time they were running away from the boxer rebellions in China because my great great grandfather was Catholic. Miraculously now i and most of my family still speak teochew and hakka and 中文,and it is kinda sad that in present time my nieces and nephews seems to pay no mind to how important it is to preserve this language as it is a sign of our priceless cultural identity. Wherever it is you are from regardless of your nationality,if you are of a chinese ancestry as well please preserve our heritage as the descendant of the people from this great culture. God bless you. Have a great day

@hongkongerfighting2022 8 лет назад

+Kevin Adrian These stupid names like Teochew, Hakka, Fujianese, Cantonese ect are so stupid. I don't understand why so many Chinese claim ancestry like that.

@82daphy 7 лет назад

Fujianese, Hakka and Cantonese are most powerful Asian in Southeast Asia like Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore.

@hongkongerfighting2022 7 лет назад

This is stupid. The most powerful Asians in Southeast Asia...... hahahaha. This is so gay and stupid. Why not in Europe, East Asia?

@82daphy 7 лет назад

Powerful meaning in term of economy and business not every southeast asian were gay you are stupid yourself

@ff82800 7 лет назад

At least you could speak Hakka or Teochew. I am one of few Chinese Indonesian with Hubei ancestry, we don't even know any Hubeinese word, we only speak standard Mandarin 😂😂😂. Well, many Chinese Indonesian with Fujianese ancestry in Java don't even know any Hokkianese, my Mom is also one of them and luckily know some word. You guys are lucky to be honest 😅

@Rosalina102798 7 лет назад

I can feel the beautiful, and sadly defunct state of this once thriving, vibrant culture of the Manchu. Such is the course of history on beautiful, dying languages like the Manchus.

@siloquant 9 лет назад

I'm Mongolian. I can clearly understand first title without reading in English Манж угсааны үрсдээ. Manju / Manchu / Манж uksura / race / угсаа urse / children / үрс de / to, for / дээ It's so sad to see such powerful nomadic people totally disappeared :(

@connormurphy683 9 лет назад

Manchu heavily borrowed from Mongolian.

@bRowenaLi 9 лет назад

Every cool! Yes, written Manchu was based in large part in Mongolian.

@dongding4074 9 лет назад

you mean you understand manchu alphabets?

@siloquant 9 лет назад

sure in this case, I can also understand meaning of some words.

@dongding4074 9 лет назад

Sharavsambuu Gunchinish fantastic.

@yolkev2393 11 лет назад

Thank you so much for this video.May the ancient Manchu culture and language be preserved !

@LAFN-si1oz 4 года назад

I am half-Manchu half-Han. Besides Mandarin as my native language, I can also speak English and Japanese and even a little bit of German, French. This year I am taking a Hebrew course in my university. But it is such a pity that I can still not speak fluent Manchu. I can only read Manchu with a dictionary sometimes. But I will keep learning this beautiful national language. Such a shame if we finally lose it.

@diedonthevine Год назад

I mean it's your choice. I see a lot of different languages you have a knowledge of (even European ones) but none of them is your half-native one. At this point the Manchu language deserves to die, since even its people have abandoned it.

@daveseville7394 Год назад

Fuck it. Learn Manchu, it's your blood. It sounds amazing to a Westerner

@user-qe6pb5gn8m 3 года назад

My grandma used to be singing that.. It was around year 1970.. I heard that some Manchurian people had lived in far northern part of Korean peninsular.

@jungkyume Год назад

Yes well indeed the founder of chosen dynasty had majority of his army Jurchen (former Manchu group who didn't become Manchu that went into China).

@user-qe6pb5gn8m Год назад

@@jungkyume Yes, the founder of the dynasty was Manchurian. But I'd like to say some Manchurian lived in northern part of Korean peninsular until 1970 and they obtained the citizenship of north korea and are Koreanized at the moment.

@elvinmeng4905 6 лет назад

As a member of the ethnic group who only recently discovered this language, this is incredibly sad...I think soon I will start studying this language.

@Jjcc-pm2ht 4 года назад

Elvin Meng Same, I’m Manchu too, but I have no idea where to find the resources to learn the language

@fyfiidleo5486 3 года назад

没想到在youtube comment看到你

@elvinmeng4905 3 года назад

@@fyfiidleo5486 you are...?

@elvinmeng4905 3 года назад

@@Jjcc-pm2ht There are some good video lectures and textbooks if you know Chinese, and in English there's a decent textbook (by Gertraude Roth Li) for learning to read Manchu!

@elvinmeng4905 Год назад

@@Dwarfplayer yes. I've been studying Manchu for the last five years, and at this point I'm writing a Manchu textbook using the "Natural Method" behind the very effective (but unorthodox) Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata. It's been a real journey, but an incredibly rewarding one as well.

@MamaLuigi908 10 лет назад

2:22 I think that guy was handsomer when he was younger.

@inferno0020 10 лет назад

Thank you very much for sharing this documentary! I sincerely wish to learn more about the losing culture and history of the Manchu people.

@bRowenaLi 10 лет назад

You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@inferno0020 10 лет назад

bRowenaLi Actually I have a question on Jurchen/Manchu language for a while. I remembered that the 14-15 century Jurchen (Manchu) language looks like Korean scripts; yet the Manchu we know today looks like Mongolian script. Is there any reason behind the change?

@bRowenaLi 10 лет назад

inferno0020 Hi there, the Jurchen and Manchu scripts actually aren't related, even though Jurchens are predecessors of Manchus. Nurhaci commissioned the creation of written Manchu at the end of the 16th century. He chose to have it based on the Mongolian alphabet. I am not sure as to why he chose the Mongolian script, though my most educated guess would be due to the interactions between the nomadic Manchu and Mongol tribes at the time (a relationship that continued, as shown by the frequent marriages btwn Mongols and Manchus, esp. at the beginning of the Qing dynasty).

@inferno0020 10 лет назад

Thank you bRowenaLi. One of my guess is that the scripts of the Han people are relatively inconvenient for the Manchus to adapt. Even though my first language is Mandarin Chinese, I notice that spelling is more convenient than Chinese texts, which is very time-consuming. Also, I am interested in the history of Northeast Asia now and I think most of the Chinese know too few about Manchus; they only knew them through some soap operas. However, I always think that they must have a lot of stories to tell, since they were once in charge of a prosperous, multi-ethnic empire. I also think their history in Northeast China might be more complex than most Chinese think.

@bRowenaLi 10 лет назад

inferno0020 There's a lot of fascinating literature out there. My fav historians (that write in English) on the topic are Mark Elliott, Pamela Kyle Crossley, Evelyn Rawski, and of course, Gertrude Roth Li.

@PerplexPlays Год назад

this breaks my heart. i am very obsessed with manchu culture, people, language, etc. i really want to learn manchu someday.

@raindropraindrop 4 года назад

2019 and i hope the elders are still alive and healthy!

@morekite 3 года назад

Same for 2021

@poproporpo Год назад

Same for 2023

@ryanchon8702 9 лет назад

this is so sad :( I hope the language will survive, even though it's really unlikely

@nehcooahnait7827 4 года назад

Eric, The Centrist & Nazi's Worst Nightmare like Latin

@tigeroflhasa3106 4 года назад

Not really, right now more and more people are learning the Manchu language, especially young people.

@productions4452 4 года назад

@@tigeroflhasa3106 that's good to hear :). I am also a very young person and I want to learn Manchu one day

@Kreazive 2 года назад

@@productions4452 There are sources and Discord group

@productions4452 2 года назад

@@Kreazive Really? I do have Discord. Is there a way I can join that group?

@jameslawson9644 4 года назад

Thanks for the video !!

@CinCina 5 лет назад

very interesting video, i was sure there were some few manchus who could still speak their mother tongue even if all the manchus i met told me that they have no anymore their own language and culture, that all became sinicized. There is still hope that manchus can take back at list part of their identity. Proud of these few young people who want to learn and understand their root.

@emperorpuyi8725 7 лет назад

Great Video

@samoanmanchubanners458 7 лет назад

hey Emperor how the hell did you lose China man?

@ngondeg 10 лет назад

Good for them! Let them preserve as much as possible. Pity they started so late. Gladly there are probably more Sibe speakers left - it is basically Manchu- so there's some hope.. I've learned manchurian long ago, and just for a while, but still when passing by a magpie I often say "saksaha" to myself and smile, as a remembrance of those days. Umesi yobo. ;)

@yolkev2393 11 лет назад

Thank you so much !

@chiashimin3724 6 лет назад

this is fascinating

@thisisnotmyrealname6046 Год назад

What a beautiful script they have!

@GalBiMan 7 лет назад

being a manchurain, i cannot speak manchurian because my ancestor had gone to korea and lived in there.

@user-pq9hl3dy3t 5 месяцев назад

지금 어디 사세요?

@GalBiMan 5 месяцев назад

@@user-pq9hl3dy3t 경기도 화성이요~

@dbadagna 2 года назад

Very interesting! Can you please include in the video description above whether this was filmed in Liaoning, Jilin, or Heilongjiang?

@wcchudds1840 9 лет назад

Historically, due to its near location between Korean peninsula and Manchuria(especially the south), there have been a great deal of battles or alliances between the two regions historically. Koreans and Manchurians are culturally different historically, but there have been lots of genetic exchanges each other (some ancient nations even consisted of the ancestor of some today-Koreans and today-Manchurians both as well) which often makes historical debate between Korea and China..

@polux178 7 лет назад

익명할래 because manchus were absorbed by han chinese thats why they lost their culture, its like a black guy in th us said hes american but america is nationality not ethnicity, its like sayin they re not from africa hahahah

@namkaengpancharat9031 Год назад

A song at the end of video is beautiful . What does this song say? After I watched this video. This song had kept playing in my mind then I cried.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

I wrote this to DragonOfQin as well. Please remember that nationality, ethnicity, and race are words of various denotations and connotations that differ when applied to the U.S. and to China. I get the point you're making here, but politically speaking, it'd be pretty difficult for any of them to become Chinese nationals. And again, I think you two are arguing about two different spans of time. DragonOfQin is talking centuries, you a lifetime.

@manchu-qu9mw 2 месяца назад

Manchu exhibits a sincere love of their unique cultures. The beauty of the spoken and writing must be preserved for it may be lost.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

Do you mean these elders in the video? Some of them grew up speaking only Manchu and then learned Mandarin in school (or in the case of those who didn't get to go to school, they learned as more and more people around them started speaking Mandarin). Others grew up speaking both.

@TheKayOss 9 лет назад

TheSoundOfMehTrueHeartingBeating MayManchurianCultureNeverDie forMyHeartWillTrulyCry

@Chinareport 10 лет назад

I wish i could see the whole documentary; please keep us informed on this. I am on 1 of such farms right now, here in Yanbian Korean Autonomous Prefecture. When i am back in The Netherlands there probably is no way to get my hands on this film / docu. I would love to do more though and am planning to visit some Manchu Counties and area's in the future.

@bRowenaLi 10 лет назад

Hi there - if you Google "In Search of Manchuria AND Rowena Li" you should find my website where this video and all the other videos related to this are hosted. This should be viewable in all countries. Please also feel free to email me through my website if you encounter issues or have any questions. Thanks.

@Chinareport 10 лет назад

Hello Roweno Li, thank you for your reply. I certainly will look up your website today. With pleasure i watched your video excerpt twice. In case I want to take further action, i will most certainly go through the website for further contact. Great work !! Very interesting. Sincerely, Ben Nijhoff - CEO of AsiaReport.com, of which ChinaReport.com is the core part. Ps: in case you have anything else or new relating to anywhere in Asia, please feel free to notify me - You can find me here on youtube but also under my personal name on Facebook and as @AsiaReportcom on twitter. All accessible via the index pages of the mentioned websites btw.

@Chinareport 10 лет назад

see, now this works!! ;-) I just got back to The Netherlands and will put your video up as part of www.chinareport.com

@bRowenaLi 10 лет назад

ChinaReport.com As long as you link it back to here or to the website, I'm cool with it. Thanks!

@bRowenaLi 10 лет назад

***** Hi Shen, My apologies. I never saw your initial question about that. I am partially Manchu.

@josephineberlin67 Год назад

I first heard from my father that my grandfather was manchus and Chinese . He lived once here in two Philippines, and back there at Beijing, China.

@plveuk813 Год назад

Very sad to see that a few of these elders showcased in the video have passed away :(

@PerplexPlays Год назад

love how they put a manchu song at the end.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

The terms "race," "nationality," and "ethnicity" all have denotations and connotations. Unfortunately, at least in the U.S., the boundaries between each are unclear. It gets more difficult when applied to China, which uses "nationality" for what the U.S. means "ethnicity."

@fasiapulekaufusi6632 5 лет назад

A beautiful artifact of the past. A pity it is on the verge of extinction.

@warrenlee3703 10 лет назад

Interesting. Saw the movie, War of Arrows. The Manchus (Korean actors) spoke Manchurian. Sadly, no Chinese movies where Manchurians speak Manchus (regarding movies with settings that take place a few hundred years ago).

@inferno0020 10 лет назад

I agree.

@polux178 7 лет назад

W L actually the han were the slave of the manchus so, its logical, even now, can u imagine more than 400 years of ruling,and they were the last until 1949 when Mao took it, so we have to wait the same time to restore the han chinese? even tho han chinese try to keep their dignity, its too late, manchu took too much, not only the culture but also the people, l i would say like 80% of the north china is mix with manchu and 40 % in the south, thats a lot

@polux178 7 лет назад

W L coz, actually beijing people control the whole companies of movies in china, and most of them are manchus so, they dont want to show their ethnicity, they tried so much to assmilate to han people, its like saying a black american that he.s african and not american, and due to the wars they had before against the han, go to take a look at " xinhai revolution" so many manchus were killed, its like the jews people in Germany

@YummYakitori 6 лет назад

Warren Lee The Korean actors in the movie spoke Manchu with a heavy Korean accent which is nowhere near what real Manchu sounds like. Only these real Manchus from China would be able to speak Manchu natively.

@YummYakitori 6 лет назад

Paul Tavand Southern China is way too far from Manchuria, it is impossible for Southern Chinese to have any Manchu admixture. Furthermore the population of Han Chinese is easily a thousand more times than the Manchu population, if anything they’d disappear like a drop in the ocean lmao

@sonnymak6707 7 лет назад

Their Mandarin pronunciation is very good. Reason, the Manchurian language and accent exerted a profound influence on the Peking dialect of Mandarin. As the manchu soldiers nobility and royal retinue predominate in Pekinese lives , the mandarin spoken in Peking was altered and became the standard.

@poproporpo Год назад

Precisely!

@CordsZ 10 месяцев назад

Those elders all look 20 years younger than their actual age!

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

Thanks for commenting! There are various explanations to this, but the generally accepted scholarship is that the Manchus wanted to conquer but also rule as the rightful emperors, the heavenly sons, and not just as foreigners (as during the Yuan Dynasty under the Mongols). They mixed traditional Confucian ideology with nomadic practices and continued many Ming Dynasty practices. There was also the simple issue of numbers. The Han population way outnumbered them, and they had a common language.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

I would say "ethnic Chinese," when understood in a Western definition, would actually refer to the Han Chinese as well as all minority nationalities that do not have significant linguistic or cultural differences anymore. (Thus excluding those such as Tibetans, Bai, Yi, etc.).

@vietvi6586 5 лет назад

Whats the name of the song at the beginning?

@17truthstreet7 4 года назад

What is the song around the 0:44

@xy5289888 9 лет назад

滿語對我來講有一種奇怪的吸引力聽著讓我感覺很悅耳現在世界各個地方每天都有語言在流失在失傳希望這個美麗的語言能夠繼續保留著 ^ ^

@bRowenaLi 9 лет назад

I certainly hope so too! Though there's a beautiful melancholy in hearing a language so close to being lost, I'd rather it be alive than extinct.

@alantan9863 5 лет назад

我也希望他們能保存自己的語言。

@saintcelab3451 5 лет назад

同意，方言也是的，明明没有冲突非要搞出个对立

@suzyocean7392 2 года назад

What is the song at the end credits please? It's beautiful! 7:20

@panusponglang2312 7 месяцев назад

0:46 where can I find that song? And what the name of the song?

@sjk89 11 лет назад

They were not only great warriors but extremely intelligent rulers. They portrayed themselves as Mandate of Heaven, Confucian rulers to the Han Chinese, Khan to the Mongols, and as Lamas to the Tibetans. They also wholeheartedly embraced Chinese high culture and over many generations they forgot their language. Have a look at the immigrant populations in the US, usually 3 generations it takes for them to only speak English.

@ZhangK71 6 лет назад

What is really strange is that, yes, the language of "the old country" drastically declines in use after 2-3 generations, but in the case of certain communities in the U.S., a certain degree of fluency is still retained (ex. Cajun French, Mennonites and their German dialect, even certain ethnic Czechs and Poles in Texas). Most of these people are at the very least fifth-generation Americans now (by my rough calculation of 30 years/generation and using 1850 as the most recent major wave of such immigration). However, accounts show that certain Manchu garrisons (I forgot the book containing the specific details) in China proper were having trouble keeping most of their children from learning even rudimentary Manchu by the mid-1700's, so roughly 5 or less generations after the founding of the Qing.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

(4) Lastly, even though the language was in poor condition at the fall of the dynasty, I think it would have survived if not for the Xihai Revolution and later, the Cultural Revolution.

@wcchudds1840 9 лет назад

Some of Hamgyeong province of North Korea was once the land of Manchurians (in ancient time, Koguryeo people lived there who split into some portion of Manchurians and some portion of Koreans as well..Ancient nations are often difficult to distinguish by today's ethnic groups). After some acceptance of Manchurians into medieval Korean society or some wars, there ended up to be the border between China and (North)Korea of today.

@galek75 6 лет назад

A big portion of Manchuria was also Korean, too. Don't forget that.

@nehcooahnait7827 4 года назад

I love seeing Koreans fabricated those nationalistic stories... Why Koreans are so essentialist?

@nehcooahnait7827 4 года назад

darwinianpickles as the northern part of Korean Peninsula was also part of various different Chinese dynasties??? 🤷🏻‍♀️

@soju1995 4 года назад

Nehco Oahnait korean is mixed of chinese(Han) and manchuria(Northeast china)

@soju1995 4 года назад

Nehco Oahnait Mixed of Han chinese and Manchuria. Who the people will choose the peninshula for their first Small destination? Nope It doesn’t not make sense. Korean usually has been denied of their immigrant history and Persist that they are not Mixed people...prove they are real pure blood haha.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

I'm not sure if there is a good way to answer or try to analogize this. Perhaps it could be said that it's like how Cherokees and Navajos are different but all considered Native American. That would sort of be the same as Manchus and Hans and Mongols. (Not Japanese though.) Not the best comparison though since Native Americans were never fully united under one central government, but I hope that gets the point across.

@duulgabayarjargal3921 10 лет назад

i want learn manchu

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

(2) There was also the simple issue of numbers. The Han population way outnumbered them, and they had a common language. (So kind of like your South America example, except in this case it was one common language rather than several.) (3) The same assimilation that eventually got them to be accepted, or at least tolerated, is what sometimes is also attributed to their eventual loss of many cultural traditions. In ruling a civilization, they'd lost many nomadic ways.

@ColonelMarcellus 6 лет назад

The Shawnee language is also almost gone. I don't know if anyone speaks it as a first language anymore, and at last report, only about 200 speakers of Shawnee remain. That's not enough to keep it alive even when spoken on a daily basis.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

I can understand that, but there still many Manchus who do care. To each his own.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

I like to think of the more superficial cultural transfers as simply the result of contact between two cultures. As for the PRC, I believe a lot of has to do with the current geopolitical borders that are so hotly contested year after year. By acknowledging the "foreign dynasties" as Chinese, they have claim to the lands conquered during those reigns.

@sumeetagale6117 5 лет назад

but how is it possible ? who ruled country they did'nt contribute to preserve their own language ?

@extrahuman9826 5 лет назад

It's so sad. If you lose your language, all the things disapear like dust with your history.

@arandomyoutubeaccount3166 3 года назад

Read the captions at 0:03, lol!

@FScaler 5 лет назад

Yes dont worry the manchu language has saved ! But no1 speaks manchurian language thats some trouble over there As a Mongolian im worrying about it lol

@gilmandanilo3270 11 лет назад

how did they the Manchu,s speak mandarin?

@RexPhalange 6 лет назад

The first lady remind me of Mulan's grandmother.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

I believe you guys are arguing about different facets of the same thing. DragonOfQin is right in that Han Chinese was originally an agglomeration of different tribes. But Bo Wong is also right that there are no longer distinct markers (DNA or cultural) that distinguish Hans from one tribe from Hans from another. It is a matter of what historic range you guys are talking about. As for nationality, geopolitically all are Chinese. But ethnicity itself is a complex matter in China.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

You're welcome! (Sorry I never learned what that is in Manchu.)

@bRowenaLi 12 лет назад

In addition, the borders of China constantly changed during its thousands of years of dynastic history, as did the extent of its political unification. Perhaps it is not the most accurate word though, which is why I'm changing it to simply "last dynasty."

@connormurphy683 9 лет назад

I found this Wikipedia resource for learning Manchu. It's obviously not as good as an actual teacher and/or native speaker, but it's something: en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Manchu There's also this: www.manchustudiesgroup.org/

@derjoejoel 8 лет назад

+Connor Murphy I think so too. But learning chinese keeps me busy right now.

@samoanmanchubanners458 7 лет назад

Connor Murphy Thanks for the tip, been looking for an English guide to learning some Manchu

@yugandali 6 лет назад

For those of you who, like me, came to hear Manchu spoken, the only parts of the film in Manchu language are the songs. Aside from the narration, the rest is all Mandarin Chinese.

@bRowenaLi 6 лет назад

Yugan Dali If you look in the description, there are links to other videos related to this film that are in Manchu with translated captions.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

While the official rule was no intermarriage, in practice there actually was. Very rural and distant garrisons were indeed able to keep everything separate, but this was not the case in areas where they were much closer to Han Chinese civilization. It is part of the reason why they began to lose their language and traditions.

@2rooms19 3 года назад

It is obviously important to preserve cultural heritage. But languages have always changed and that is not something bad, it's just history as the lady at the end said. Imagine how many languages existed at some point over the course of humanities history, how many have been formed and vanished again?

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

They did intermarry with Han Chinese families (and I've noted this to Bo Wong) but not Japanese in general. Puyi's descendants do not count as his reign was mostly under the Manchukuo puppet state and many marriages were forced by the Japanese.

@wenqiweiabcd 9 лет назад

"一直su于边塞的zen么个,小屯子,所以呢,介个语言一直妹leng"

@Gundamseedsucks 11 лет назад

Thats where your wrong many of the Qing emperors families intermarried with Chinese and Japanese. last emperor Aisen goro Puyi's niece is Japanese and Manchu/Jurchen.

@Skygoers Год назад

Diversity is a nation’s wealth. I am glad the government is encouraging the revival of Manchu language. I hope they will learn from history and allow Tibetan language to flourish without discouraging at the policy level. Otherwise, Tibetan language will soon suffer the fate of Manchu. A super power China honoring the diversity of its languages and cultures will be its strength, not weakness 🙏

@janetvang6898 6 лет назад

nothing last forever

@terrytay1774 7 лет назад

Lol - The Forbidden Place is a testimony of Manchus? It was built by the Ming Dynasty and palace of the Ming Emeprors!

@rowenali7713 7 лет назад

Nowhere does it say that the Manchus built the Forbidden City. It's a note about the most visible and famous landmark tied to the Qing Dynasty, whose leaders ruled from there for 260+ years. There are obvious Manchu notations and artifacts for visitors today, and most people today will associate the Forbidden City with both the Ming and Qing dynasties. And if we're going to get technical, let's not forget that a large part of the Forbidden City was burned down by Li Zicheng's rebel forces before the Manchus captured Beijing. A lot of what you see today was built or restored during Qing years.

@reeyees50 3 года назад

it was built by the mongols

@brigdrsurendermohansharma3031 4 года назад

Manchukow. How soon a culture and language can disappear without state patronage. At times in history revival does come. Manchu/Manju language and culture should be encouraged along with other languages.

@kholmsk20 7 лет назад

I want to learn the language....

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

You're welcome. As to your other questions, pls expand the video description & click on the link there. (they won't let me link it in comments) Each video has an embed code. Just give proper credit and you are free to embed it. Thanks.

@yugandali 6 лет назад

The Forbidden City was built by the dynasty before the Manchus, the Ming. The Manchus just took it over, along with the rest of the city, but they didn't build it.

@bRowenaLi 6 лет назад

Yugan Dali hi there, as previously noted, there was no claim that the Manchus built the Forbidden City, just that as the last inhabitants, they are closely associated with it.

@anjing2728 7 лет назад

私は日本人、縁あって奥さん漢族、昔独身時代に哈爾賓と延吉へいった。東三省に一緒に行こうって誘ったらあなたは本当に東北が好きねー。でも私寒いからやだって。10日程雲隠れして一人で旅しようかな。

@alw6912 Год назад

Half-han and half-manchu here. It’s said that the Manchu language is already dead in mu grandparents generation, who belonged to the nobility in the dawn of the Chinese revolution of 1911-1912. The Chinese policy against “foreign” languages is not the only thing to blame, as one tends to do when it comes to non-Han languages. The decline came , in fact, during the peak of the Manchu rule of China (aka Qong dynasty), during which the northern Chinese official language, the Mandarin of Beijing, was made lingua franca of the Chinese Empire in the 18th century because the Manchu ruling elite has already been sinicized due to their pursuit of Chinese classical philosophy, science and culture, deemed the most prestigious in East Asia at that time. However, now in the 21st century, it is our duty as Manchu diaspora in North America to at least learn this language.

@BoHan92 10 лет назад

What's the song from 0:43 - 0:54?

@wenqiweiabcd 9 лет назад

Look up "宋熙东"

@BoHan92 9 лет назад

谢谢，具体是哪首歌？

@wenqiweiabcd 9 лет назад

Bo Han 具体我也不太清楚,声音肯定是他没错.

@TokugawaDio 9 лет назад

darude-sandstorm

@user-nf7jn7ql8z 7 лет назад

만주어 야 말로 신라의 옛 말

@jeffreysetapak 3 года назад

Surprisingly, it's Kuomintang that won't allow them to speak Manchurian, not the communist.

@manchurianeagle 11 лет назад

mini anda! baniha！

@bRowenaLi 12 лет назад

You are not exactly wrong in your definition of feudal, or rather, feudalism. However, your definition is an Euro-centric one. Feudalism in its traditional meaning applies mainly to medieval Europe. In terms of Chinese history, there are two broad camps of thought: one that applies the term as a direct analogy to dynasties such as the Xia, Shang, Zhou, the other encompassing all dynasties up until the overthrow of the Qing.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

I understand the point you're trying to make. Perhaps in the scope of the existence of humans, but not in modern day. It's not like having a "Hispanic" ethnicity (in the U.S.) when obviously there are different groups. It's also not like the Yi, who are actually several different ethnicities but are grouped together as the "Yi" by the PRC. In modern day China it is not possible to distinguish one Han Chinese to another.

@Valorian 3 года назад

Sad that the old people don't speak manchu in the video, they all only talk mandarin :(

@adijayaification 7 лет назад

Once an imperial dynasty

@kasikasivendjinn5345 3 года назад

Now on the brink of extinction, the hate towards Qing dynasty is real among the Han Chinese youth now.

@adijayaification 3 года назад

Kasikasiven Djinn 😢

@chp763 3 года назад

@@kasikasivendjinn5345 its very sad to see...

@SRWDify 7 лет назад

Could you please tell me the name of the song at 00:45? It sounds awesome

@bRowenaLi 7 лет назад

Apologies, but unfortunately I can't remember the name of the song - it's probably buried somewhere in an archived (digital or actual folder, I don't even know). The singer's name is Song Xi Dong (宋熙东) and he is the man getting his queue braided at 7:13. If you search him on RU-vid w/those Chinese characters, you'll find some of his songs. I can't seem to find this one online though.

@user-iq9pe4ls2j 7 лет назад

Here's his wikipedia page. zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/宋熙东

@yuwonoyudi1809 7 лет назад

that's because the man had been integrated successfully with Han's.not Han's integrated with the man.but sadly the man lost some of their original homeland the outer manchuria to Russia and now lived in Han's/Ming teritory.

@jamesbancroft2467 7 лет назад

I wanna speak Manchu!

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

I think your 1st point is valid (although there were definitely big differences between the 3), but I'm not sure about the latter. Take the Chaoxian (Korean) & Russ (Russian) ethnic minorities. Neither Russia nor Korea ever invaded China proper, but they nevertheless are recognized nationalities. I think the difference here is, whereas Japan never shared a border (and thus direct contact in the ages before ships & planes), the traditional territories of Mongols, Manchus, Russians & Koreans did.

@redwhitedude 12 лет назад

Do you know what feudal is? Feudal means that political power is decentralized. Clearly this wasn't the case in unified imperial dynasties. Feudal is back during the Zhou dynasty, and Shang Dynasty. Qing was not feudal.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

I would not argue that Manchus were seen as invaders/foreigners when they first gained control in 1644. They incorporated themselves into the existing civil service, ruling, etc. framework, but I don't believe they meant to become as assimilated as they did. I've written in the past to contest the notion that the Manchus were completely sinicized by the end of the Qing. That said, it is undeniable that they lost many of their cultural & linguistic differences.

@ZhangK71 6 лет назад

They were struggling to keep their identity well before the end of their dynasty. If the Manchu culture were a person, then the signs of systemic organ failure and sepsis were evident as early as the mid-1700's, with a steady deterioration since shortly after 1644.

@bRowenaLi 11 лет назад

China was actually at its peak during the early-mid Qing. In its later years, it could not keep up with Western advancements. But I'd argue the same would have been the case if the Ming had stayed in power. And really, that does not say much about Manchu "culture and capabilities." How many "Han Chinese" dynasties failed/were overthrown? In your line of reasoning, does that mean it says "a lot about" their cultures and capabilities as well? I'd also hesitant to give the CPC credit for today.

@ComradeHellas 3 года назад

The Qing dynasty was fairly advanced before they secluded themselves

@redwhitedude 12 лет назад

CPC likes to use feudalism to describe dynastic china to insinuate that they were somewhat primitive or backwards politically. I think to describe dynastic china as feudalistic is not accurate.

@82daphy 7 лет назад

Bejing people were Manju or Han?

@frankhill4358 7 лет назад

Han

@polux178 7 лет назад

Daphne Joanna Schultze but a lot of manju also, its like 50/50

@kimeli 6 лет назад

you westerners need to understand that manchu is a sub ethnic group of Han chinese, like canton, hokkien, shanghai, etc.

@shahstormaggedoni5854 6 лет назад

That's simply not true though. The Manchu have more in common with Mongols than the Han

@benjamindwong1 6 лет назад

kimeli. Manchu is classified as part of the expansive Ural Altaic (Tungusic) Family, whereas the Han and the Tibetans belong to the Sino-Tibetan family.