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Thank you Shawn, for your service to this country and for the brilliant content. There is a bunch of trash out there, and its very refreshing to have meaningful, educational, and entertaining content.
great clip. SUGGESTION: turn the auto focus off on your guest's side camera, it kept catching his handing waving which was kinda annoying. would probably also help your editor
Question. All I ever wanted to do was be a soldier. When I was 17/18 I realised that I was barred from entry due to having been diagnosed with Asperger’s/autism when I was 10. Because of this fell into a deep depression which is now another bar on service should in the unlikely event the autism bar be lifted. For the soldiers particularly combat veterans, are there too many bars on service? My own personal view has always been, let me try and make your decision at the end of basic but that’s not an option. The British Army is smaller than 75,000 and still they can’t meet recruitment goals and here I am wishing for the chance. Pisses me off to be honest.
@@sasquatchrosefarts Delta Force, and the US Military in general, do not have policing/arrest authority against private citizens within the US. What exactly do you think it is that a CAG operator might do to help uphold someone's 2a rights in any particular state... let's be specific here. What exactly do you believe makes some of the most elite warfighters our nation has to offer "cowards"? Just to clarify... here are some excerpts from the oath of enlistment: "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;"
You can see the quality in this bloke. Polite, well spoken and articulate, clearly focused, charming, good sense of humour and intelligent. Very unassuming warrior. You can see why he was Delta lol.
I met 2 kinds of Delta guys. One was wounded and sent to our unit to recover. Didn't know he was Delta until he left us. He was a good friend. I was an outsider support guy. He treated me like family. Loved him. 2d type was also recovering from wounds. Had to keep up his jump status. It was 2005. I hadn't jumped in like 14 years. Nervous, trying to do everything right. Had equipment check. My turn I yell OK and slap him on butt. He looked like he was going to kill me, shook his head, calmly tapped the next guy and softly said, OK. Yep, I slapped him near his wound. I wanted to crawl in a hole and die. Great men.
I really appreciate how this gentleman represents how our operators are not just athletes but extremely intelligent individuals. I got to work with a few and i have always been blown away talking with them. Unfreaking balievable! God help who ever stands between them and their objective!
I have no military experience, but just from watching shit and reading a bunch, Im under the impression that the delta guys are EXTREMELY smart, they are the ones that go in, topple governments and are there for the rebuild. Obviously, just a broad statement of what they do, no to be taken literal, but just in a sense they are extremely good at what they do and super smart
i love this guy. He could be the soccer dad in the stands next to you. Then you talk to him and its like whaaaaaat. I've known a couple guys like that- a CCT in the 24th STS, a green beret who was in 7th group i think, and a SEAL in my masters program. Not of these guys' appearance screamed high speed operator, but they definitely were.
That’s most Delta guys. The vast majority of them are pretty quiet. And honestly, the few CAG dudes who don’t stay totally quiet, I don’t blame them. It’s just that most do.
Don't see the problem with that as long as its on the down low...most of these guys signed up after that kind of exposure anyways so I don't get your point.
Makes complete sense, Delta recruiting from all military branches. They "cast the net widely" - talent isn't restricted to one branch of the military. Good video!
All branches has their own history and culture. Putting different people from different branches together doesn't mean they will fit or be tight on their first deployment. Devgru is also tier 1 but they only take top Seals that has been in the community and doing combat deployments together for years making the teams tight. CAG and Devgru uses different methods but what makes a unit work is how tight they are together.
Back in the 2000s four Coast Guard members were sent to BUDS as part of a joint agreement with the Navy. All four passed and were given the option to stay and become operators. To my knowledge they all chose to stay. So the answer to whether or not they could become Delta operators is yes as long as Delta has no specific requirements as to not accepting them.
Solid American, salt of the earth and to this day if you spoke with him you would have ZERO clue! Look up "Badass American" and his name is on the list!
In regards to a Unit Member learning Aviation, You gotta admit, having a guy on your Spec Ops Team who is not only a Tier1 Ground Force Recon/Operator/Shooter etc, that could steal and fly an enemy Air Asset full of his Teammates out of harm's way if the opportunity presented itself and was useful to the mission's completion is a pretty cool feather to have in a Team's Cap..... A guy that can fix engines is just THAT on a smaller scale, but can be none the less just as useful.
In Rogue Warrior, the late Richard NMI Marcinko Cdr ⚓️ ret said SEAL 6 had a member who became ✈️ qualified, FAA & USAF aircraft. This was prior to the DevGru era.
my son is one - transferred over from one of the branches referenced - he never talks about it, I never ask and I've gleaned more from these last two interviews than I ever have from him - thanks Shawn - appreciate the insight
What fascinates me about these tier 1 operators is most of these individuals look like my 8th grade science teacher but will break you off 8 ways from Sunday if they have to. These individuals are so resilient and self motivated.
I met a Soldier once who (edit) said he tried out for the SEALs. Big guy. Strong. Not real bright. His first task was to push a HMMWV for an unspecified distance. This dude clearly spent a lot of time in the gym and could also run. He pushed the vehicle a long way. When he couldn’t do it anymore he told the SEAL trainer that was it, he couldn’t move it anymore. The trainer responded something to the effect of “Man, you did really good. Almost there but not quite. Thanks for your time.” That was it. He was out. Clearly what the big guy didn’t realize is that they weren’t looking for a specific distance. Small guys had to push the truck, too, and would not have pushed it as far. I figure what they were looking for was someone who would never stop pushing until he was told to.
@@edwardhoward4708 Oh, so you're one of those. Doubling down. Okay. How far did I push the truck? Not as far as you're pushing your bullshit.. In fact, I didn't have to push a truck at all. I was smart enough to listen to the SEAL officers and CPOs that were assigned as faculty/cadre at the Academy that ran the four-year officer-BUDS preparatory program (You know, the one with only a 25% attrition rate vs the 80-85% enlisted attrition rate) during my weeklong taste of a midshipman's life in Annapolis, sandwiched between a week in Colorado Springs and a week and a half at West Point when I was being recruited by the service academies. Those SEALs told me that I didn't have to push an imaginary truck very far at all to be a SEAL. They also told me that Marines don't get to try out to be SEALs. Marines do their own thing.
@@ryhk3293 ok, I’ll clarify; I met a guy who TOLD me he had to push a HMMWV for an unspecified distance. I have no reason to suspect he was lying. Was he? Do you know for a fact? I met him in a military environment. Maybe a WAREX or train up to go to Iraq. I forget exactly where. Other details; when I was in JROTC a man who claimed to be the only SEAL recruiter in the United States came to talk to my class. He said a couple things I remember. 1. The most important thing they are looking for is mental discipline. Unwillingness to quit. 2. He said of all the athlete types to try out for the seals, wrestlers tend to be the most successful. He said the ability to say no to a doughnut when you are skinny and starving Is a start of the kind of Mental stamina that they’re looking for. Is that also bullshit? Did the Captain and the Chief bring a fraud into the classroom? He was wearing a navy uniform, if I recollect LCDR. I’m pretty sure the CPT and the chief were legit; CPT Ferrarini had wings and the chief was skinny supposedly because he got shrapnel in his gut in Vietnam And they had to remove a lot of his intestines. If you’re going to be useful here, help sort out fact from fiction. I could believe pushing the truck is an urban legend repeated by Joes If it came from a credible source. I’d also believe that the top-tier units are looking for something other than unwillingness to quit If it came from a source more credible than a uniformed Navy officer.
@@edwardhoward4708 Are you sure it was SEAL and not Ranger? There is an event in RASP where candidates have to push a HMMWV (with only three wheels, at that!) However, it's one one person pushing it; it's a whole team of guys pushing it, and they push it for *hours*.
The very few shooting/clearing videos that exist of Delta stuff are wild…target discrimination and deadly shot from waist level firing level then moving up…it’s some wild ability.
they are both tier 1. Different process. Devgru only takes Seals with years of combat deployments because they want to keep it within the community making the teams tighter. Just because you put different people from different branches together doesn't mean they will be tight together on their first deployment.
@Steve Sherman Army is a bigger branch than Navy with more people so they would have more slots but the question is doing what? You don't want a cr@ppy job or a desk job in your last days of your military career. There are a lot of Navy in California, Virginia, Florida and Hawaii and they want to be retired in those states.
@Steve Sherman We don’t know the details of his record in the Navy to know his options at the time. His commands would know best. Being an officer doesn’t mean is better than enlistment.
@@AdeptN00B Yes. They all part of the Naval Special Forces and work together just like Army EOD supports Delta. They don’t get the Trident unless they pass Buds and Seal Qualification (SQT)but they work together. All Naval Special Forces work together.
Col Beckwith served with 22 SAS as an exchange officer. Passed selection, commanded a Troop, conducted guerrilla operations with the SAS in Malaya. Mirrored similar selection process for Delta which he established.
Any Brits trying to suggest that Delta Force took this recruitment model from 22 SAS is 100% false. In fact, it’s completely backwards. 22 SAS historically speaking very rarely ever invited non Army branches to attend selection. And in the rare cases that they did, it was do to the fact that’s some years saw the Squadrons as short handed and not enough operators per Troop. In fact 21 and 23 SAS(R) had more instances of taking non Army volunteers then 22 did. It had nothing to do with trying to find other people that brought unique capabilities and experiences, which was the (actual motive) for Delta Force when they started doing it, and why the UK SF would later adopt this recruiting template. Delta Force started this trend, not the SAS.
The office who created Delta was a Ranger exchange officers from the US to the UK. He passed SAS selection and lead SAS teams on operations. On returning to the US he pushed to form an elite force but was ignored. He eventually given the green light and delta was born. He instilled valves from the UK. ❤
I'm pretty sure most special forces were based on the SAS. One could argue they technically weren't the first, and they probably could be right, but the SAS is the benchmark... and IMHO, better to be the benchmark than to be the first, because it means you're that good and everyone else is just a comparison.
@@slushyslushslushbruh SAS tactics were likely picked up from India's indigenous warrior race who were severely outnumbered but still managed to protect India from mass Islamic and Christian conversions. Small team tactics were being used against the Mughal Empire, Afghans, and Turkish empires who invaded simultaneously along with the Portuguese, French, and British were the last. Unconventional warfare was a cornerstone in tactics like sending in small teams most commonly in 5's for night/early morning infiltration. The enemy would become confused and even engage in friendly fire not knowing how many enemy's actually laid siege to them. By day break the battalion's camp would be in shambles averting their pending attack on the next village. And many times the rest of the battalion would be finished off during day break by the main unit. The defense was effective and why the Afghans, Mughal Empire, and Turkish Empire could not convert India to Islam like Central Asia, and why the French, Portuguese, and British could not force convert India to Christianity.
Love to see former Nirvana and Soundgarden guitarist turned U.S. Army Ranger and Green Beret, Jason Everman on your show. I’m familiar with his story but hearing it told in your laid back yet very crisp and professional studio setting would be very cool. Thanks for the show. It makes a very long, shitty drive home after work, speed by.
My bro in law was delta. At one point after his service my daughter lived with him due to a short but long story of her being a dummy. One night he sent me a pic of her in front of a folding table about 6 ft long filled with locks and door handles. He texted "lockpicking 101." I loved it. He was bored or something and decided to give her a very niche life skill. This man saying lock picking triggered that memory.
Kudos to you all for this video. Its a great testament to our military's ability to adapt and realize that the best are just that, the best and not which branch they came from or what school they went to. Having been a CCT, it never dawned on me to explore Delta. I wish I had
im glad he explained it the way he did because im pretty sure they pick and choose who they wanna give a tryout to be in delta force. Definitely a detailed selection, they dont just pick any solider. you gotta be qualified for it, not jus having the right mind set, passion and so forth. like he said" during the interview "cant be dumb". so i hope people realize that you have to have qualifications and go through tests before anything else starts. lol
Just because you put different operators together for the first time doesn't mean they will be tight together on their first deployment. Devgru only picks the top 1% of Seals with years of combat deployment because they have been together for years in the same community and know each other well that makes the teams tight. Devgru and Delta use a different process for a different outcome. A married couple from the same background that has been together for years will know each other a lot more than putting a new couple together from different backgrounds. In battle and war is who works best together and trust is everything. That's why Devgru doesn't take Delta or anybody else.
Correct. JTF2 is Canadian though. JTF2 sister force is CSOR, who also recruit from all branches, though they aren't tier 1, but operate together frequently.
This definitely needs to be advertised more. I don't think I can do this physically anymore but joining delta from any branch I definitely didn't know was possible.
The last time I was looking into an SMU the requirement was 18 months down range. At one point that was probably a dime a dozen but not so much anymore. And there’s always a “minimum” standard, but striving for that is a good way to get shown the door.
Shawn, The Australian and UK SAS have the same recruitment policy (which is where CAG get their policy from). It doesn't matter someone's background, if they pass selection they will start at the very beginning in the "crawl, walk,jog and run" principles...... Much better mix of operator at the end. The key traits are trainability and humility.
Cognitive dexterity is the big one.. the ability to solve multiple problems and make decisions under stress and chaos. It’s something a soldier has Or does not, it can’t be taught
When I was a private in the army in Iraq we had a delta guy come on some missions with us and one time he yelled at me and called me a retard lol. I was all "scuba Steve called me a retard 😔 " lol
In years gone by we had a colonel aĺlocated to Division for the purpose of a conventional warfare maneuver. Rumour was he had Ranger training. This was circa 1980, 7 Div HQ, SADF. Fist timd I heard of the Rangers. Now pse - i cannot confirm this neither talked to him about it.....a lieutenant was not allowed th make small talk to a general xtaff member so we kept our distance. All I can say was the maneuver had to last 5 days - on day 3 the Brig flew out, got all Bn commanders on order and instructed them, once again, to slow down.
Doesn't the ISA or whatever they are called now, also select from all branches? I saw a team house podcast that had Eric Miyares in it. The guy was a marine then some ended up in the army and then joined a smu unit that is not CAG.
CAG was based on the SAS model. And all SAS Regiments(UK, NZ and Aus) have their Selection open to all branches of their military. Beckwith saw the value in that philosophy and implemented it in the Unit.
@hoodie U.K Chris Ryan openly states that in his opinion and that of many modern UKSF - Delta is the most capable Unit in the world. UKSF just does not have the infrastructure and technical capabilities of JSOC. SAS/SBS Operators were loaned gear off the books by Delta/Devgru during Iraq - to get them up to speed. There is even an interview on YT with ex Aussie SAS and NZSAS Operators where they state that Delta is on "Another level". And they refer to the capabilities that CAG has that no other Unit can replicate.
Dude I never been interested in any military culture or stories or whatever before. Now I can’t get enough. Once I started to actually think about and hear what these guys are capable of it blows my mind. It’s so cool. Not only physically but mentally as well. Like these are the guys that when they go into battle the enemy says/thinks: “Aw shit here they come. Guys we may as well either surrender or run for our lives.” 😂
I watched a video of the guy that went from DEVGRU to CAG, it was MSG Kevin Holland. He got out of the Navy as a DEVGRU Operator. 911 happened and he wanted to get back in as mentioned. NSW told him he could come back but he'd have to do a workup and deployment with a regular SEAL Team/Task Unit/Platoon. If I remember correctly, he joined a SF National Guard Unit then went to CAG. I can't remember if he went right to a Squadron or if he had to go through CAG's pipeline. Definitely worth getting him on the show to tell his story. There was also a guy who was in the regular SEAL Teams and went to the 160th SOAR to fly 47's. He's got a cool stary as well.
He was Devgru and quit to be a civilian and after 5 years retired from the military he wanted to return to Devgru and they said NO and he went Delta. Devgru is by invitation only. If you quit the only way you can return is by invitation.
@@6.8SuperDutyDriver That’s what he said. He was Devgru before 9/11. The military changed after 9/11. He retired from the Navy to be a civilian 5 years before 9/11 and after 9/11 he wanted to return to Devgru but they said NO because Devgruv is by invitation only. You don’t apply, they invite you. So he went Delta because he found a path by joining the National Guard. His words. That’s 1 side of the story (his). We don’t know the command side. All We know Devgru didn’t invite him back. It worked out for him because he got back to Tier 1 and fought in Iraq and Afghanistan and that’s what he wanted to fight as a tier 1 Navy or Army.
@@deathfire096, according to him, NSW said he had to do a work up and deployment with a regular SEAL Team (18 months to a year) before he could go back to DEVGRU. He chose to go SF, then to CAG. His words, not mine. As I've already mentioned, it'd be nice to get him on the show to tell his story.
@@6.8SuperDutyDriver I don’t know what promises they made but Devgru is by invitation only and is not a contract. He could have gone back to a regular Seal team but there was No guarantee that Devgru had to invite him back. There is no contract and 12 to 18 months is a long time in the regular Seal teams to get hurt and not be invited back. All We know he was Devgru, he quit/retired from the military for 5 years and wanted to return to Devgru. We don’t know the side of the command why they did but it has to be a valid reason.
I know in Denmark there the psyck tests/ evaluation carries about 75-80% of evaluation towards being approved for a certain training. But there are also physical stop tests that has to be met as well as IQ tests for everything. How how one has to score is about dependent on the type of training you apply for. NCO school is less that officers academy and so on.
There were two Japanese soldiers who either didn’t know or didn’t believe that WWII had ended. One was stationed in Indonesia and the other was in the Philippines. Both finally gave up in 1974, 29 years after the war ended. These two guys may have had what it takes to be Tier 1 operators. Or maybe they were both just married and preferred to extend their deployment indefinitely rather than go home to a slow, tortuous death.
The SAS recruited straight from the civilian world, a man called Mick Gould. His task was to train SAS soldiers in unarmed combat as a civilian contractor in the SAS training wing at Hereford. He wasn't a badged member of the SAS during his time there. On leaving the SAS training he became a technical advisor on movies like Heat, Collateral Damage and Miami Vice.
SAS, SBS, Delta, ISA ( The most secretive tier 1 organization in the US, ran by the CIA) Green Berets, DEVGRU...ALL of them are the PHDs/high level IQ of the military world.
@@munkfish101 I didn't say he did selection or that he was in the military. He was headhunted by the regiment as he was a world class martial artist and a member of the SAS knew him. So the SAS hired him as a trainer in unarmed combat in their training wing. They hire all sorts for the training wing. That's why they are the best. I know a bloke who was a parachute instructor in the RAF who was into sky diving in a huge way. He was recruited by the SAS back in the late 60s early 70s to teach them HALO and stayed with them for years.
@@CDSAfghan Did i say he was in the SAS or as you say the SBS. He was one of many civvies the SAS hire to add to their skill set. Once in the training wing of the SAS, still a civvy he became an instructor on all sorts of close quarter skills in unarmed combat and would you believe CQB skills as well. So he is much sought after now as an advisor on movies. Look at the end of the movie HEAT. As the titles come up, Mick Gould and Andy McNab are on there as technical advisors. McNab, or to give him his real name, Steve Mitchell, even talks about being in Hollywood with Gould and training the cast of Heat in firearms and unarmed combat. If you look at the final shootout in the movie. All pepper potting tactics. Mag changing etc. All the stuff that SF are trained to do.
My buddy’s dad is delta …. I was at Bragg for 3 years and I’ll say this when I left the wife was filing for divorce … Never met this dude he was never around definitely saw some bad ass pictures… the divorce rate at Bragg is crazy even in 82 nd … I remember when the SF guys where killing there wives when they came back or was very sad
German Tier One - the KSK - even recruited THEORETICALLY from outside the military, so it was THEORETICALLY possible for civilians to apply. They dropped this option lately as far as i know.
I think the reason it’s like that where they take in anybody from anywhere in the United States Military is because it’s just that they’re all United States Military anyway and all on the same side. When sht hits the fan it’s not going to matter what branch they come from because in the end it’s all the United States Military. Also Delta is the top of the United States Military. There’s no more to go up from there. It’s like he said it’s the NFL draft picking players from different colleges aka different branches. I think the only thing higher would be Jsoc lol which would be the Olympics even though I heard JSOC works with SAS and other countries special operations.
as far as I know if you have a skill set that can used to benefit in a abstract was you get it when you look at it in a unconventional war setting whether you're army, navy, marines airforce or some form of sf operator from another team and mindset that fits into the mission parameter...
Seems only recently the CAG guys are starting to talk a lot more than usual. They were always known to be very silent about the unit and the DEVGRU guys liked to talk
I always thought that that's what made Delta so good. Is the diversity of who they're pulling from . I got to work with Delta a couple times being with the 75th Ranger regiment in a couple of SEAL Teams. But his Rangers man like Deltas like all we want to do I mean we look up to those guys like their freaking Superman. But I always thought that's what made them so good is the diversity of backgrounds that they have on their teams. You know you got SF dudes Rangers submarine Force Recon in Warsaw guys I mean occasional seal I think goes through there. I mean what A the first bag of awesome to pull from. RLTW 3/75
Selected for the unit in 1990 best training in my life, they wanted a six year commitment. My then wife stated if you re-up she wanted a divorce. dropped out of training came back to my original unit and then divorce her anyway!!! Not finishing was the biggest regret of my life.
Some of these interviews are hard to listen to... dudes who aren't articulate, maybe some PTSD or physical trauma going on, or who just ramble on with giant word salads forever. This dude is someone I could listen to all day.
It doesn't work that way in war. Putting different people from different branches together doesn't mean they are going to be tight on their first deployment. A lot of egos. Devgru only takes the top Seals that has been in the community for years working together in combat deployments. It makes the teams tight.
Back in 03, we had lads from the UK TA (reservists) assigned to us. We took the piss out of them, but by fuck most of them were electricians, mechanics, plumbers and otherwise trades we would not have had on station and got us out of shit. One guy was a semi-professional motorcycle racer who re-wired an old Brit Harley-Davidson and taught the full time courier rider how to kick start a bike and how to not let his mate turn off the fuel tap for a laugh...
1:00. I may be completely wrong, but Delta allowing all services has more to do with getting different perspectives and pulling the best from everywhere.
That , Courtesy of the Shawn Ryan Show, is the " beauty" of the 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment - Delta ( Army Compartmentalized Element ( Airborne) ). What is that? The " beauty" of " The Unit" is that, although It is Army - centric ,rife with Rangers and Special Forces Soldiers, Delta Force Operators come from the Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, and Coast Guard, whether Active Duty, Reserve Component, or National Guard. And that is why I Myself, John Rodriguez,a Prior Service USMC and US Army Veteran, respect that philosophy from America's Best Tier One Special Missions Unit, capable of CounterTerrorism, Hostage Rescue, WMD Counter-proliferation, and Direct Action Raids.🇺🇲🇺🇸🪖💣💥🪂🤿🥷🇺🇲🇺🇸‼️
I served regular Army with a fella that went Delta, he was your typical 12B but just a highly motivated dude, a family man from small town America with one of the strongest work ethics youve ever seen. We never did see him again but heard he smoked all the PT tests and all the mental stuff as well, I know our country was better for having Sgt Green on one of the elite teams.
