The Worlds of The Expanse (no spoilers) 

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One of? If you're just looking at how well they blend realism and a good story its the best. Sure older shows might have just been limited by the technology at the time, but other popular science fiction shows don't even come close to the expanse in realism.

@@9SMTM6 I agree. In terms of realism no other Sci fi franchise can compete. I'm studying physics, and I just love how much of it 100% realistic

Idk, I read the first three books and started Cibola Burn, and I just gave up. The first book is great, but the second book is just the same thing again (except Avasarala). I know it's two authors, and I think I like Abraham but not Frank. So much of it feels pretentious and moralizing, everyone's over emotional, the only characters I like are Avasarala and Miller. And they always act like Miller was a villain or something, Naiomi always telling Holden "don't become Miller". Why is Holden our main character? He's not all that bright, and he just bumbles from one situationto another from pure chance. The most interesting thing in the books is the mysterious alien stuff, but book two has nothing on that, book three has less than it should, focusing on just a bunch of people fighting over nonsense, only spending a chapter or two on the alien station. After that I googled it to see how much we learn in later books, turns out it's very little, so I tried reading book four, and found without that suspense I cared very little about what happens, it started with some people being like "oh thsse people want to colonize our planet, that's bad" then they resort toshooting at each other and talking about morality again, and I gave up. Now tell me, judging by these criticisms would I enjoy the show more? I watched the first episode before the books, but it didn't really peak my interest, and all the greys and the dark lighting made me feel sick. Should I stick through it?

@@zacharybattocchio6134 The first Episode is in my opinion one of the weaker ones. The Show really does start of slow, but it becomes way faster paced than the books. To like the books, you reall have to be interested in the whole setting, especially the political part of it all. What kept me reading them was manly the thought experiment part of the books, how will technology develop, what challenges will humanity face etc. The characters, though they're not bad, really seem to be subservient to the setting, not the other way around. By that I mean that the characters where written to present the setting. I the end I can only advise you to at least watch the first 3 or 4 Episodes of the show. Btw, I don't know where you were looking, but the second half of Cibola Burns really goes deep into the whole protomolecule thing, and you get a lot of nice background information.

@@normanzoelle5154 Okay, thanks. Maybe I should have finished that one then. I'll try watching thenext few episodes. I like that stuff, the world building, but after the first book you kind of get the idea. I loved the first book, and on it's own it's great, I just didn't like Holden, and I found subsequent books didn't add much of anything. Also I heard a lot of people like Cibola Burn the least. I just googled this stuff, I don't even remember where I heard that. Maybe it's just not for me. Like, I never really liked Star Trek. They're fun enough, but there is nothing in the story or characters that is really engaging. I prefer things like asoiaf, where the characters change a lot, and the story flows nicely but is complex. But I'll go back, give it a try. Thanks.

Thanks mate! Yo everyone go watch Spacedock's Expanse videos.. and the Starship Troopers one 👌

Daniel's stuff is amazing, especially the video on the jovian moons

Go both of you!

Different environments also different germs,any earth base germs kill martians or opposite..No need for extraterrestrial microorganisms for mass murder.

Here, here. This was an excellent primer. And I've become a huge fan of the work you guys do at Spacedock as well.

RedBattalion9000 I don’t know how I feel about that, the refreshing thing was The Expanse wasn’t “the bachelor in space” there’s broad stroke sexuality but the show doesn’t hinge on “while they or won’t they?” If the books are focused on that, its disappointing.

@@epiccollision I think RedBattalion is referring to Romanticism, as in the writing is very emotionally driven.

Im 75% through Leviathan Wakes and the writing is really really really nice

Exactly. I really love the concept of the Epstein Drive as a technical worldbuilding device, because it's just this ONE simple thing that's unrealistic but easy to get over, but it allows an incredible world and story to unfold with physics and economics we can recognise from our world. That avoids the problem a show like Star Trek often has, where what is and isn't possible for the characters is either completely unpredictable (which makes the whole story lose tension) or it has to be constantly explained, which becomes a drag. However if you're watching the Expanse, you just need to know 1. they have these rocket engines that work like regular rocket engines but somehow super efficient, just accept that 2. everything else works according to our scientific laws.

@@gamlaman remember, just because we haven't developed the science for the ED, doesnt mean we CAN'T.. I doubt anyone believed it was possible to split or fuse atoms before a certain point. And there are undoubtedly physics issues that apply in deep space we cannot model for on Earth.

What do they mean by “the drawl was viral”? This was when he talked about the martians. Edit: here’s the quote, 3:18

Even the Epstein Drive is not beyond the realms of credibility. For any realistic colonisation of the solar system there would have to be a drive system better than conventional rocket engines as they exist now. That there would then be an improvement on that is a given. We went from the Wright Flyer to Concord, and putting a man on the Moon in 63 years. The Epstein Drive is a get around to make The Expanse work but it is not unrealistic. We may not get an Epstein Drive like it is described in the books and series, but we will have something.

@@gamlaman , even so, fusion drives could theoretically achieve the thrust and efficiency of the Epstein drive (albeit, the radiation and heat dissipation problems are non trivial and relegate it to still being fictional). Do believe scott manley did a video on it.

To be fair there are magic aliens.

the expanse lost my interest in the first episode

Blitz Creak..."lost" it, or traded it out for the interest of someone more interesting??

reading the synopsis, the premise, hooked my interest for 10 minutes, and later one dies after 12 minutes of watching the first episode

@@blitzcreak2728 The show start of a bit slow, it definitely worth watching, one of the best sci-fi series.

What did you think?

Hard-ish

When the only stuff on TV and in the movies is Star Trek, Star Wars (hardly sci-fi beyond the spaceships), and most of those are more about the action and blowing stuff up in space, The Expanse looks harder than Mike's Hard Lemonade. Yeah there's alien stuff, but all the human technology is grounded in science pretty well.

what part of it is science? can you replicate it? no you can't - it's fantasy because the world is flat

What even is a flerfer doing here? More than a little far from home...

@@andmicbro1 Mike’s Hard Lemonade is a pretty low bar for “hard,” despite the name.

The first two seasons are also available for free on Amazon for prime subscribers. Season 3 should be arriving soon, and season 4 will air next year.

I want to read the books so badly, but then I remember how I absolutely loved Game of Thrones season 1 and that made me go buy and read all the ASoIaF books that were out so far, and then for the rest of the show's run I only saw its flaws and its ways that it didn't measure up to the books. I don't want that to happen with The Expanse the show. I think I'm going to wait until the show is over until I read the books.

@@wangtoriojackson4315 That's probably a good approach. Watch the show for the twists and turns, then read the books to fill in the details.

I've read the first 5 books. I was someone who had read all of the ASOIAF books before show too so I know what you mean by having reservations. The books absolutely are more in depth and flesh out the story a bit more than the show. Books always do that. I do believe that the show stays true to the identity of each character and the plot in general. All the gripes I have with GoT from Season4+ I have no had thus far for The Expanse. I can say when season 3 finished. I yelled "Fuck this, I am not waiting a whole year for more show. I need to know what happens!" and went out and purchased next 2 books. I had at that point been trying to keep the show and book progression relatively similar so I didn't spoil / ruin anything.

@Wangtorio Jackson same for me! I was just telling a friend about the Expanse and how watching the TV show has actually been mysterious, and unpredictable, so much so I want to keep watching the show without reading the books, you only get to go through your first time once, and I want to be on the edge of my seat the whole time, not knowing what happens next. I do want to read the books too, but if they are even better than the show then I have something to look forward to after the show is over.

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Haha, very true, he's literally one of my favorite GoT RU-vidrs solely for his digestible explanations. Also helps that he's not cynical or over-the-top with complaints and criticisms of the source material. I like more nuanced, well-researched explorations of ideas and information. Take note lesser YT channels, nobody cares about your ill-supported, biased opinions on shit.

@@jrich749 which part is made up? It's certainly accurate regarding the show... The show cant realistically show Naomi/Miller/Drummer as a giant, so they just hand-wave that part.

@@jrich749 .. I seriously doubt you've read the books or watched the show.

Yeah, I don't think anyone really wants S03xE03!

A Song of Planets and Spaceships.

Nah...too many main characters still alive.

@@Albert25012501 Shed would like to have a word with you. you don't need to be ceremonial to die in space.

@@KitchenSinkSoup A song of ice and nuclear fire.

the solar system doesn't exist, it is a lie just like the ball earth

God I know Right?! It’s so underrated!

Chevron one activated....

UNSCHEDULED OFF WORLD ACTIVATION!

Anyone else realize they're all Mass Effect characters? Holden is paragon Shep, Naomi is Liara, Alex is Joker, Amos is Wrex, Bobbie is Ashley, Miller is renegade Shep

I'm commander shepard.....we'll bang okay

At least Mass Effect has the decency to not even attempt to hide the fact that its spacecraft is actually a jet plane in space. I hope the Expanse will influence the aesthetics of sci-fi, at least to the extent that it stops pretending space is exactly like the sky. But now I'll get back to Mass Effect, which I'm finally playing for the first time. It's as soft as sci-fi gets, but that's okay, because it's awesome.

Love the Lie of Space, the World is Flat.

Ty Franck (one of the writers of the book and supervising producer on the show) has previously worked for/with GRRM.

Netflix is silly as fuck

It was cancelled....by the Sci-Fi network. Netflix had nothing to do with it.....they didn't even bid on it.

The first book is basically a detective novel IN SPACE. The drunk broken cop. The missing dame. The corrupt chief obstructing the investugation...

Not getting start trek, TE is gritty and hyper realistic, Star Trek is overacted shiny and polished.

Erm... You should watch Battlestar Galactica and other classics like Stargate...

You might like The Expanse game by Telltale Games. It is a prequel to the show with Camina Drummer as the protagonist.

I remember doing this was maze runner as a kid😂

Did you read it?

Kakarotto MUI ditto, I’m just rewatching them one a day now like syndication rofl

I hope you enjoy it! If it peaks your interest enough, there is currently 7 books with the 8th coming out in March. They make for great reads or audiobooks for daily commutes.

it got you watching heliocentric propaganda

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association no it’s intergalactic Chimera Ants 🐜

@@GearZNet OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS! (I always wanted the ants to replace humans)

dum dum dum dum dumb ;)

lol!

In the series, they had, as a whole, good enough sense of wanting to leave our neighborhood behind for good.

Was about to bring up The Wire then I remembered I'm old!

I agree. It's the only space opera I've ever seen. Other than reading them.

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​@antiami Um, no. Lots of people are naturally curious or instinctively drawn to things without anyone's direct input. Others are not. People are different from one another and the breadth of humanity is filled with variation.

They really need better marketing I ignored it until the pandemic and loving I had 4 seasons to watch, but missed out on knowing it has existed for 4 years as there are books too.

and forsome extra nerdgasm... adam savage is in it :-)

Same here

You have no idea.

Well don't dally. It's better than you will imagine.

Ever heard of Battlestar Galactica?!

Nah, we could just get fucked by a nuclear war, robotic uprising or climate change.

Der Totale I like it when we work together to solve things...silly me.

SuperTrisset it’s just so unachievable with current tech, it’s practically science fiction.

@@epiccollision not the spin

She's also the only character that feels right on the TV adaptation

Miller's hat is my favorite character.

@@AlphaMike-vh3wx Keeps the rain of my head.

she flubs her lines a lot.

She is the ying to cercei's yang.