Appreciate your honesty, if im going to pay extra for that 4k UHD release i want the studio behind the release to put in the effort to deliever something really nice!
Thank you for posting this video. I’m new to 4 k releases and have a lot of blu rays and this video makes me cautious about buying some new releases. I hate the corporate greed and them selling us lesser versions of movies we love. Us, movie lovers need channels like this.
If 4K Blu-ray was all about "corporate greed", then 4K discs would no longer be available. 4K Blu-ray doesn't generate much revenue, for the studios. I'm very thankful physical media is still an option. Besides, the studios have already been paid for ALL their discs ordered by retailers (from their distributors). Even if a disc doesn't sell, the studio has already been paid. It's the retailer that takes the loss.
Lots of controversy here! I knew I’d ruffle some feathers with this one. I appreciate all the positive comments and criticisms. I think that’s what makes this community great. As I’ve said before, do your research, read and watch multiple reviews, and ultimately you have to make a decision - these are just my opinions on what I’m seeing and you may see things differently!
I like to collect steelbooks so I bought the Gremlins, Alladin, and Star Wars but for cheap. Best Buy had a good sale going on for their steelbooks as low as $9.99.
@@astrosjer822 What ? Sure, they do. I have yet to find a Best Buy location that doesn't sell physical media. Whenever I check BB store availability for new Blu-ray releases, EVERY location has them. So, I'm not sure why you say otherwise.
Thanks for the tips. I agree especially for animated movies. Disney and Pixar should invest in the conversion but it seems they do not want to pump money into it. They could easily (but would cost a lot!) re render these into 4K resolution.
Gremlins was definitely from a new master and looks way better than the Blu-ray. Tons more fine detail and way better grain rendering. The HDR is a bit too teal like most, but it's definitely better than the Blu-ray in every other way.
Mostly agree with your excellent review. The controversial "Gremlins" issue... Even if it's not the best and I feel there's still room for improvement, it's still the better version we will get and an impressive 'quantum leap' over the old and almost mediocre Blu-Ray.
Subbed, really enjoyed watching your videos the last few days. i collected over 1k VHS then onto DVD then Blu ray but sold my collection about 6 years ago. Just grabbed a new 4k tv and player and have just purchased interstellar as my first 4k watch! thanks for the great videos
Disney has been putting out more and more crap lately. It's changed dramatically from the company that it used to be. I stopped supporting Disney completely.
Dont get me started on their current business practices and their cheap constant remakes. But honestly what is wrong with disney and their greed?!? They charge $25-30 for DVDS...and it's any movie...old or new...for a dvd lmao. They cost like 5 cents to make...so annoyingly overpriced.
No ranking needed. MUCH APPRECIATED! I got Jason Bourne set for Christmas 2020. The disk isn't working, but the digital download seemed okay, but my equipment is pretty old. Oh, I subscribed!
Important to say about the Terminator 2 4k release is, that it's just the theatrical version that was "upgraded" to 4k, none of the longer versions of the movie.
James Cameron oversaw the 4K remaster and HDR grading himself. It was his choice to remove the film grain, so anyone saying that the grain missing is a bad thing is just wrong. James Cameron did not intend for the grain to be there but shooting digitally in 1990 wasn't a thing yet. I absolutely loved the 4K transfer of T2 and have zero regrets buying it. Watching it in 4K is how the director intended it to be. If you love grain then this disc isn't for you and if you are a grain hater like myself, then this is the version to own.
Totally disagree with a couple on here! Gremlins was a great upgrade visually. You can see the pores on faces in some scenes, not that you want to, but definitely better clarity and the HDR makes quite a substantial difference. It’s night and day, I’m sure someone even with a budget set up could see that there is an improvement. So anyone out there wondering if it’s worth the upgrade... yes it’s definitely an upgrade visually! You won’t be using the mediocre Blu-ray transfer again! Disagree with Aladdin too, the corrected ratio means we finally get the full picture as intended and the HDR doesn’t make much of a difference from the regular Blu-ray, which is no bad thing, but eliminates banding altogether and other picture issues etc, it’s definitely more of a solid picture. The one major downside is the horrendous Atmos track, which is flat and non existent! The original 5.1 track beats it hands down!
I thought the 4k T2 was really good on my sony a8g oled tv and panasonic ub280 player. What tv and 4k player are you using? The color depends on those two equipment you have. I would never buy old school Disney cartoon movies in 4k. The only animated movie I would get are alita, player one and avatar.
I bought the T2 4K by mistake w/o doing any research on it. Still haven't brought myself to watch it haha. Also own TLJ 4K, which I thought didn't look that bad. Own Gremlins 4K digital which I still have to watch (never saw it), but I got it for $5. Wished I never bought T2 though haha. Great video!
I refused to buy into wobbly camera filming back in the day. The Hobbit was filmed in 5K back in the day and it’s still not sold in 4K. The hobbit looks terrible quality in 2020.
@@dreyn7780 I think you're talking about the handheld cameras and quick cutting techniques. It wasn't my favorite cinematography, but I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about the poor 4k disc.
Hi. I'm having trouble finding dolby atmos movies. 4k or bluray. Is there something I am missing ? Are all bluray dolby atmos ? Because on most websites it does not mention the fact if the movie has dolby atmos. Thanks
I agree with the 4K Terminator 2, I bought it only because it was very cheap. I knew there was something off about the color throughout the entire film. Had to adjust the brightness, sharpness, and color a lot to get it right. I had the Artisian T2 Special Edition and it looked great for a DVD.
I am looking at my extensive dvd collection to bypass the Blu-ray treatment and jump directly to 4k , only for a selected few as they are not cheap enough yet.
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork The black levels are off , I didnt see a major improvement over the standard blu-ray. Which is strange cause WB usually knocks it out the park with their 4K transfers.
@@chadbrick67 It's supposed to be grainy, it's film. Film looks far superior to this digital clean shit they use today. Also, would you rather they went the Predator approach and made everyone look like a wax figure?
@@chadbrick67 film naturally has grain. And a lot of older films, they deliberately shot on grainier film stocks as a part of the aesthetic they were going for
I'm usually not too bothered about 4k blu-rays, for me the increase in detail and colour rarely warrants the extra cost. But being totally honest, after seeing The Last Jedi in 4K, i don't want to go back in this case. The colour is so much richer and provides better depth, and the image is definitely more refined and crisp (there admittedly isn't much in terms of new detail, but i think that's more a compliment to how good the 1080p version was). Tbh, I have the feeling his opinion of the story was colouring his review of the transfer. There were no other 4K Star Wars at the time he released this video, so what basis did he have for thinking the 4k transfers for The Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker would be better?
@@LILGHETTI I think you've got adjust your HDR settings on your tv mate (i had the same problem until i noticed i had HDR turned off. I also found that looking for guides on how to tune a tv for 4k can be very helpful).
I didn't even know that Pan's Labyrinth had been released on 4k...released 1/10/2019 in the US, still not available in Australia 3 months later...I love being Australian and getting screwed by movie companies...NOT.
It'd be interesting to see what equipment you use to review your movies. Your complains about some 4Ks (except T2) seems that you don't have a good equipment or you think that what's on 1080p is how a movie has to look. You also don't consider the original film stock use in some movies like on Gremlins.
They really need to release the star wars episode 1-6 on 4k instead of being strictly on disney +... Wait they announced it would be a best buy exclusive? Already pre-ordered... Especially since I missed out on the infinity saga box set.
When you get a movie like Aladdin that comes with a Bluray, is the Bluray a different/previous version of the film with different colors, etc. Or is it just a lower quality version of the 4K?
I've kind of stopped buying Blu Ray unless I see a good deal in a charity shop. The reason being is directors these days seem to think you want the action extremely loud and the dialogue extremely quiet. I find myself constantly adjusting the volume throughout the entire movie. This was bad on DVD but worse with Blu Ray.
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The Last Jedi wasnt the kind of movie to have great HDR. The scenes where it should have stood out were mediocre upgrades, but the definition looked improved in many places. Sometimes I just look at the price of both and go with 4K if it is within 5-7 dollars more. Mad Max Fury Road, with all the hoopla, is also very disappointing in its 4k version. Having only HDR10, I wonder why people rave about it so much?
Everybody hates on it so hard.... I feel like it’s got most of its problems baked into the source. If they don’t actually do a fix I’ll end up buying it at some point (it’s one of my favorites)
I have to agree with the Last Jedi 4K release. It didn't look very sharp like 4K is supposed to be. Toy Story 4, on the other hand, is definitely 4K crystal clear sharp.
Thanks bro good vid. I'm getting a collection together to rip for a Plex server at home and I was just so lost because I never had a 4k TV until recently! This was very informative thanks again homie
Possibly a dumb question, but are the bluray discs that come with these 4k releases the same as regular/older bluray releases though? I've bought 4k boxes with that assumption.
Hey ( films at home) I'm wanting to start a blue-ray movie collection, I don't won't to spend to much money, so I'm finding cheaper second hand copies, what are your thoughts ?
Why do you not have all the Disney MCU films on the list!! These movies all have atrocious audio!!! You shouldn’t have to keep cranking your volume up to hear dialogue and then have to turn it down when big action scenes and explosions kick in!!! Any 4K that has you do that sucks!!! I don’t care how great the visuals are!!!! You can’t have one without the other!!! It would be nice if you acknowledged this!!! Disney has been putting crappy audio on their Blu Ray discs and 4K discs for years now!!! That’s why I won’t support them anymore!!! I’m sticking with my older Disney Blu Ray discs because at least back then they gave a damn about physical media!!!
Whoa, easy with the exclamation marks! I agree Disney releases tend to have a lower overall volume level, making you have to raise the volume a bit, but don’t turn it down when the loud parts come in - those are are the best bits! The difference between quiet and loud parts is called dynamic range, and we don’t want that removed as it would make sounds which should be loud have no impact. Modern music has this problem - everything is the same volume throughout an entire track and it gets tiring fast.
Ross Tarran That might be ok for you but I prefer the audio on 1080p Blu Ray!!! Give me good old DTS-HD Master Audio where I can set my volume at a nice level and hear everything versus an Atmos track that isn’t all that! Disney is notorious for doing shit like this! It wasn’t that long ago that they threw all their support behind DVD. Their Platinum Editions were second to none! Then a funny thing happened. Blu Ray came on the scene and you know what was the first casualty? Extras!! That’s right, a company known the world over for their features pack discs were suddenly putting all the extras on the Blu Ray discs and saying to hell with DVD! This was to sway people into adopting the next format. Now that we have, they are at it again with these half ass mastered discs with shitty audio! This is because they are trying to force everyone to adopt their new streaming platform! I have no problem with this as long as Blu Ray doesn’t suffer as a result! There is a shit load of money in physical media and they’re turning their backs on that like some damn FOOLS!!! You don’t leave money on the table! It’s this kind of shit quality which is why I’ll never support Disney again! You want proof? If you have access to it, watch the original Paramount Blu Rays of Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America: The First Avenger, and the Avengers! Then watch the Disney reissues of each of those films and tell me the Paramount releases don’t have the better audio. Those guys know how to make a disc sound out of this world phenomenal! Disney is just greedy as hell! That’s why so many people are dumping their shit streaming platform after watching the first season of the Mandalorian. It finally came back to bite them in the ass and it couldn’t happen to a better company!!! Put out a crappy product with shitty audio, you pay the price. Karma’s a bitch!!!
Ross Tarran Incidentally, Spider-Man: Far From Home 4K is now also a casualty of the shitty audio syndrome. Since Spidey is in the MCU, for some reason, the sequel has inferior audio to the vastly superior Homecoming 4K disc! And it’s a Sony product, so go figure!! Looks like I’m sticking with the regular Blu Ray on that one too!! If they want 4K to really take off, they’d better stop dicking around with the sound before more people than myself catch on and abandon 4K completely!!!
@@kotobukiya70 I have mostly 1080p Blu-rays too, I only have a few 4K discs of my favourite movies which have been given a good treatment. I like the idea of Atmos but haven't got overhead speakers at the moment to it's mostly DTS-HD MA for me too. And I won't be getting Disney+, I have Netflix but mainly watch physical discs as the quality is much better and you can't lose access to the movie (so many films are only on Netflix for a short time). Keep buying those discs and give them a reason to keep selling them!
Ross Tarran You can count on it! I’ve been collecting physical media since the days of VHS. There’s no way streaming will ever make me abandon Blu Ray and 4K. I’ll keep buying until they literally press their last disc! I know I can count on you and other physical media lovers to do the same.
Correct me if I’m wrong but re-releasing something from Blu-ray to 4K if it wasn’t filmed in 4K in the first place then what’s the point? Just enjoy the title when it was originally released for what it is!!
Agree Terminator 2 was a big disappointment. If you see the introductory titles on the US release shows a 3D splash screen. It looks like they just took the theatrical 3d release and slapped it on a 4k disk. This explains the excessive DNR and smoothing.
To me the biggest problems with 4K are quality inconstancy, and most movies offering minor improvement. There is such a huge range of tvs and quailty of picture . The cheapest 4k Tv at walmart.com for 55inch is $259.99 bestbuy.com has 55inch 4k tvs up to $2500 these will never have a similar picture quality. The majority of people I would say buy walmart or bestbuy black friday tvs and these do not give the best pictures quality, and will give different viewers a different experience. This was an issue with blurays and plasma, lcd, and led had very different picture quality. Of course there were also better tvs that gave better picture quality. I think the difference with 4K is that many times the differences are very small and honestly hard to tell while watching a movie. Of course they usually offer better color, and resolution but most people will not notice. Whenever I am watching a 4k I really question if the difference is noticeable unless I could do a side by side comparison. Again as show in the comment section 4K is very much affected buy equipment and personal preference. I have only seen a few of these titles on 4K both Pan's Labyrinth and Gremlins are very dark movies and I would assume have improvements to the contrast, but again who knows unless you do a side by side comparison. The increase in picture just isn't there. Most people are perfectly happy with blu-ray. Another thing to consider is tv size. 4K increases the resolution and as you mention you don't see much increase in the higher resolution. It could be your tv isn't large enough. Many people believe that 4K is intended for much larger tvs. If we say compare a 1080P 82Inch Tv vs a 4K 82 Inch tv a much higher resolution may be more obvious. Then we can also consider that even 4K has so many different standards that make also hard to compare hrd, hdr10, hdr10+, dolby vision. It becomes almost impossible to even compare unless you are a professional and have the equipment to compare different versions in a side by side comparison. How much different it a 32inch tv with hdr vs a 75inch tv with dolby vision. I am not saying you are wrong about anything I am just saying there are so many variables it is almost impossible to say if a 4k is a justifiable upgrade. I think you can make the statement of a poor picture quality. I guess you could also get into tv setup if it has been calibrated or using stock out of the box settings, and then of course which settings do you use. I always go back and forth between two settings on my tv never sure which one i actually like better.
Thank you for sharing. I really don't understand why people are buying these 4k uhd for. The regular dvd or the blueray is good enough and it's cheaper.
Add to this list, the 4K version of "Oblivion"... it is terrible. The video is cloudy and the surround sound is muted. The 7.1 Blu ray version is MUCH better in sound and video. BTW, the MOVIE is great.
Gremlins on 4K looks fantastic, not sure what movie you are watching but the criticism is completely unjustified imo. You are saying they basically did a lazy job of it which simply isn't the case whatsoever.
I absolutely agree. Gremlins is very good. No way it's a Blu-Ray transfer put on UHD. Also, the grading is very good, with nice, nuanced and saturated colors, with very good luminance (typical of HDR). For the resolution, just look at these comparison: caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=13418&d2=13417&s1=134480&s2=134466&i=0&l=0 The video master they used for UHD is a new one for sure.
I have a sony 700, 200$and a panosonic 820 ,450$ ,sometimes a disc wont play well in one,but works perfectly in the other? Lol. Lg c9 oled hooked to a nakamichi shockwafe, incredible pq n sound
I'm calling you out on Gremlins. I don't know what you have but my Gremlins looks amazing. I'm actually shocked and a little upset that you picked that as a disappointment. I believe you're wrong with this one. It doesn't mean you lost my support.
Just purchased Saving Private Ryan. Maybe I got a bad disc, but the video was horrible. It had shadow black bar on top and bottom of the screen similar to 2:35 format, only instead of the bars being black, they had a blue and red tint to them. They especially present at the beginning and coming and going throughout the movie. Anyone else buy the 4K disc and seen this as well?
I'm not a video or audiophile so my standards are lower. That said, over the years I have noticed a similar issue from companies moving from vhs to DVD and DVD to Blu-ray. A fairly high percentage look improved but there are those releases that make you wonder and disappoint. There are DVDs that for me personally look and sound solid enough that I have no desire to double dip. Do you ever feel that way about some Blu-rays and feel content on that version or do you upgrade regardless because it's on a new format?
Sometimes, having the discreet Atmos track is overhyped, I feel. Especially on more advanced theater setups, a number of Atmos UPMIXES are better than discreet Atmos releases. Especially when you have a theater cranking 125 to 130dB.
125 to 130dB? That’s way more than just loud, it’s an easy way to go deaf. Loud moments in films peak at about 20dB above the average level, so even if you’re talking about peaks that’s an average of over 100dB. Films should be loud but that’s way too much.
@@rosstee We've actually looked into quite a few movies and have actually made a list we've published. Several movies have their deep digging infrasonics (sub 20Hz) well above -20dB. There are quite a few movies as well that in that sweet spot of 21-45Hz are hitting -10 and even -5dB! It's CRAZY! But yeah, having a theater capable of 125, 130, 140dB (friend of ours is capable of 149dB in his theater) is nice because it gives you overhead. We're rarely hitting those (I cruise between 120 and 122 peaks) but it's nice knowing it's possible! It's the same reason I drive cars capable of 200mph. Am I ever going to reach those speeds? Probably not, but it's nice knowing it's only a pedal press away.
@@budgetaudiophile6048 It's your choice, but I believe reference level (very loud to most people) is around 85dB average with peaks up to around 105dB. Averaging over 90dB (sounds like it's closer to 100dB if you're peaking at 120) is very likely to damage your hearing over time.
@@rosstee I think I can put your mind at ease, good sir. These are C-Weighted (and Z-Weighted) readings and most of those are produced by the LFE track. My theater, in particular, has 6 15" and 3 18" subwoofers so there's tremendous LFE produced. LFE, more specifically frequencies below 60Hz or so, require significantly more energy/pressure (read SPL or dB) to damage hearing. There are charts dedicated to this. Just google something along the lines of 'Frequency Decibel Hearing Damage' and click on Images. You'll see that those ultra low notes (say below 40Hz) aren't doing nearly as much damage as you would assume based on SPL numbers alone :)
@@budgetaudiophile6048 Ah, I see - I was thinking it was possibly something like that (with high frequencies being the most dangerous at high volume), though that's still a hell of a lot of bass! I only have a single 12" ported sub but even that can move some air, hope your house is well built!
I'd like to add "Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets" to this list, the colors on the HDR Blu-ray are very off, the standard Blu-ray looks way better.
Though not 4k, I wasn't impressed with Arrows release of Slaughterhouse Five. To me, it looked like the DVD I have? The added extras were nice, but really what anyone could've gathered from IMDB. And the fact it was $41.44CDN! Had Arrow put out a DVD version at $19.99, it might've been worth it. But for the waste of space using BD only, and at such a inflated cost - it doesn't win me over!
I absolutely disagree with Gremlins. The 4K is a good upgrade. Aladdin's atmos is pure shit. The video isn't that bad and it looks better then the BD The Last Jedi isn't bad either. The atmos mix isn't a major upgrade. Overall the 4K release is better then the BD
Maybe the reason some of these HDR 4K releases look poor is because it’s really best on very bright TVs? I just bought a nano cell LG, and half of the HDR content looks dingy to me. I feel like HDR is meant for a brighter television. Having really bright specular highlights is simply not worth the trade off of dingy mid tones. I suspect some of these movies will look much better in a few years on a TV with better contrast and brightness, or just a very expensive tv. Although, HDR video games on my PS5 look absolutely spectacular.
I have a question about TV's. My LG has an HDR picture setting, does that put on an artificial HDR onto any movie OR does it activate HDR to work with your HDR 4K movies? Thanx
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No, you won't see the improved color definition offered with HDR and/or Dolby Vision. Your Blu-Ray player, home theater receiver, and 4K TV must all support HDR or Dolby Vision in order to take advantage of the feature.
I skimmed the comments to see how many over the top negative comments about you bringing up the last jedi there would be, only to find the majority of the comments were around defending the Gremlins 4k.
