@@KYUUB3Y yh no, first of all the weapon already had been nerfed and was pretty midtier after that, this second nerf renders it almost useless, worst attack weapon in the game for real, second... the inferno swords heavy attack stun got nerfed too
Yeah. Like the first nerf was justified and already made it really balanced. It was barely better than the other top attack weapons at that point, if anything it could be argued that other weapons were still better.
@@Tyongryong nah it was not in the top 3 attack weapons or anything after the first nerf, but it waa good right? Very balanced, very usable thats it, now its booty water. They could just give a proper charge attack hitstun or make the 2x light drop enemies like the heavy did 1 patch before and the weapon would be fine, altho it would be still weird to not be able to use your aerial heavies at all really
Devs probably felt like it was still too op(idk how), problem is now the weapon isn’t even decent anymore. If the devs actually played their game maybe they’d be able to properly balance things
I’m glad you’re speaking on this because I feel the same way. The first nerf was fine but the second one completely destroyed that weapon. Heavy attacks are pretty much useless now. It fell from top tier to rock bottom. They should do more testing prior to releasing weapons.
The first nerd was needed because kids are just abuser's,but this one was a kick in the 🥜 I guess their watch one shot build videos on channel's like your's with this weapon and say "na'h you broken" and just broke it literaly(is probably mistake in the process of nerf it,and will fix it).
That guitar needs to be nerfed. It already grants suano armor. It doesn’t need a scythe that prevents people from escaping. It’s the most bs weapon in the game.
@@juicyjabzh9207 the first nerf yh. That one, not really. Like at least make the 2x air heavy hit even if you dont give the 1x aerial heavy a proper dropdown or any long stun, but then maybe give the drop down ro the 2x air light, or give it a proper charge attack, bc the weapon is literally the weakest attack weapon now and before the nerf countless weapons were already better... claws, shisui spear, sunbeam, violet petals, twin fangs, some hand to hand types, knuckles, carapace... all have been better than claw edge befofe that 2nd nerf, so how was it needed??? Thats just a pretty dumb claim imo
Thx for making this video. I agree. The first nerf was plenty enough and balanced. There’s no logical reason why the rarest tier of weapon should be rendered useless. Yes, the weapon at release was toxic and skill-less, but now it’s easily the worst weapon and that’s not ok. Especially since people spent money on it. Why should a weapon not have ANY STUN or heavy attack? This is just stupid.
@@TOOWEAKIN hmm yh not really. Someone who cant combo wont notic the difference when just looking at the base combos since they only do pretty linear combos that are only short bursts of damage anyways
@@SenseiiBoba You can still do X times for or square time 4 into a dash cancel if ts works then you can do more, its not useless just cuz you cant spam heavy
@@TOOWEAKIN its not about useless, but look at map designs and movement system... and ppl are not just gonna be glued to the ground, you have no dropdown, you cant even get them to the ground to even do these things if someone is somewhat decent, you will always have lowground and posirional disadvantage etc and its not about "heavy spam" first of all you disnt really no what spamming is, second of all its just about the weapon needing something to geg ppl to the ground besides the 3x air light, that has a high hit counter, to be able to access your ground combos, the whole aerial heavy atring is comoletely rendered useless now, the 2x heavy won't connect anymore either, its completely scuffed, if ppl are airborne which they are gonna be most of the time, literally the only thing you have is just do the full light string, which is just a short burst of smg that fills up enemy sub cd, its not even an attacker weapon anymore at this point🤣... like wtf is that oppinion? XD you clearly dont have a clue what you are talking about. Like, yh you can olay well and win wirh anything, that doesnt make the weapon any better in comparison to others, it's pure toxic ego nonsense and doesnt follow no logic, like combo stribgs not working anymore, not connecting anymore is not a "fixed state" its def not ideal it needs adjustments and it will get adjustments🤷♂️ 100% And this is what the guy tells you that studied comp. gaming and worked in the esports scene for years 🙃 you can imagine that ion wanna have that discussion Edit: sry that sounded way harsher than it should've. I could've been more polite, but i wantes to get the point very clear here, bc you are not the only one saying that
@@SenseiiBoba I brought up the fact that you can cancel the combo out instead of Doing the whole combo I know what spanming is cuz Ive seen it just getting hit by straight heavy’s and nothing else not even a Jutsu. I always use combo cancels anyway and I don’t even main attack but I’ve used the weapon post nerf and its still useable if you know what you’re doing
@@Samuuchiha10 them they woulda have nerfed all the weapons snd not just randomly one that is pretty much middle of the pack. They also would srop fiving every god damn wdapon that releases combo resets to infinite. It doesnt add up, its not a logical conclusion at all
@@UnrulyBurritsu1 ? Thats complete nonsense. You realizing that this is a bad change thatw asnt necessary and this its stupid when have serial combos are not even working and that a weapon has no way go get ppl to the ground therefore is mainly stuck to just short bursts of damage, actually just means you have some common sense and a tony bit of understanding. I for my part never really play atk and never really liked or used the claw edge much either when i played atk. And I can play EVERY weapon in the game. Its just kind of a toxic, snowflaky, i am so special and wanna feel better than everyone else kinda reply
@@raffyvalky4527 its not balanced man. Its not working properly. Theres a BIG difference. You smash your square in air and the wepon simply dont hit the final two shots. This is not nerf. They literally messed up the wepon
@@iyaruine oms when breadies started tryin to spam heavy is when it was damned cuz that weapon had them getting way too big headed for people third partying with spam lol
I never got the weapon, but want it for a Kurama/Minato fighting style. I can't believe the developers are stupid enough to screw up a weapons combos/hit box instead of fixing an exploit.
This is hilarious, I always liked the weapon as I am a Minato fanboy and it's very much like his combat. However, as always, the player base never uses them the fun/full way, as shown by pressing heavy to win with the dreaming moon fan. Back on topic, I didn't use this weapon for the longest time as I was expected to make it into an infinite one button combo causing the others to become toxic. With the "nerfs" it actually became balanced and light combos still function fine, in theory one can still light combo>cancel rasengan> 1 heavy. Of course, this isn't an auto win where you press a single button and even catching in the air equals death for the enemy player so babies are mad. That said, I like the claw now and still wrecking people with it with the Light/heavy combos without abusing it as I always used it. I can't wait for the dreaming moon fan to get the moon blade treatment. Yes, I also used that to shred people with 30 hit combos with the light and tool mixed in at one point, not just spin to win as all the other spammers did. Will use the claw now with my Minato cosplay without feeling guilt. If you are offended by this, get better at the game and learn how to combo with weapons.
You dont get the issue... you cant get enemies to the ground besides maybe your 3x air light, and people are 85% of the time not gonna be glued to the ground. Also the whole aerial heavy not connecting at all being conpletely useless is also just stupid, its outright broken. Ppl just trynna be edgy and snowflaky trynna tell me that this would be a good change or good gamedesign or that after the first nerf the weapon needed any further nerfs
I understand that, but assuming you change the usual meta build load out an attack type can still stun them to open them to combos. Light hits rarely have stun or impact. I use leaf flash to open them to be hit and you are right, they are short burst combos mostly. This change did make the meta teleport/all mighty push/sharingan build with the weapon useless however. Also do forgive me i did not mean to imply you used the weapon in that manner, the majority did however. Reading your other comments it's highly possible to assume you might have even used to cool upper cut it has. The point does stand that most people don't put much effort and as others have said here, aerial stun did lead to being unable to fight back. As me and my buddy call them, cutscene combos. While I am not sure I will be able to fight with in the Cloud map with the heavy, leaf rising wind, octopus arms, leaf flash and even Obo as much as dislike that jutsu should still open the enemy up a combo. Might even be able to use reverse scale or cooling breeze to stun them again for a second round. As a closing statement, I did not mean to imply you used the weapon ignorantly. Hope for the best.
Yh but the weapon requiring you to run certain jutsus in order to do proper combos and anything besides just the aerial light string is still not making the weapon better, so what is the point? It was pretty midtier after the last whats the point in nerfing it further? You usually dont wanna nerf things if you dont need to. It's literally the worst atk weapon now by far
I didnt even use the weapon at all really, i barely play atk and when i prefer hand to hand or sword styles, but i know how to rate a weapon, i am literally the guy that made specific guides on how to combo with the weapons, weaknesses and strengths, what you use the different combo strings for etc... ion get vids out that fast, but i literally been testing and recording and making scripts just like for the edge claw if you look at the playlist on my channel you get lind of an idea, i am also the guy thats doing all these crazy things like obo drop them, do a 4x light, go around go into the rasangen obo pull to reset and lock them in place so i can do another rasengan combo or that is doing upclose touch of death combos with weapons like utakata pipe and does all sorts of bullshit whennit comes to combos. I played the game since beta, i literally studied como gaming and worked as an esports coach for years at world stage niveau. When I tell you guys with 100% certainty that this weapon did not need a second nerf and that even if they wanted to do that they should have implemented it differently. Now the weaponnis not inline with the rest of the game either, bc its far inferior to most other atk weapons, which is not good for an item that some ppl literally spent hundreds of bucks on and it just makes the user experience unnecessarily bad, while the last iteration of it was not something that negatively imoacted anyone elses experience, its also not just bad balancing, but bad game design too, half the aerial strings not working like wtf🤣😅... nah i'm past these pointless discussions i'm sry😅 have your oppinion guys, but... yh... i may also just think those oppinions are undifferentiated and stupid and dont really come from a place of actual understanding😬
Its not about me or what someone is trynna imply about me, i also didnt understand it that way no worries, but its just a stupid change and i really dont know how anyone with a bit of common sense and actual game understanding wouldnt see that😅
Im not even main atacker but dude. Its a SS+ WEPON. Its not suposed to be better than the others? XD And we alr saw a billion times. They dont jnow how to balance the game. Any class can do one shot builds and have inf combos and broken wepons
Exactly. Idk why everyone feels like this is now fair and good… meanwhile the samurai swords and claws have just as toxic combos. So now what? Like come on… now this weapon has zero aerial stun capabilities and it’s just a ground weapon which is useless.
@@Tyongryong im pretty sure they gonna fix this. A wepon that aerial combos dont hit its pretty sure a bug/mistake(and it seens that they dont test their own changes xD)
@@notsonoble6211 it already was nerfed in an earlier oatch and was totall fine not even in the top 5 attack weapons really and now its straight up the weakest. First nerf was absolutely needed and really wwll implemented, 2nd nerf completely unnecessary and also messed up since the base combos aint even working
This weapon was Nerfed because of creators like this. He was showing people how to infinite combo and that's what the Devs didn't and don't want. So you're part of the reason for the Nerf. Lol. Stop crying about the Nerf and get better, it's that simple.
@juanestrada2972 1st of all i'd feel honored if that was the case😆... 2nd of all I am not "crying", its called common sense. Ur just rude for no reason. Base level decency pls. And no, this is not what they wanted. They have on their roadmap for this season to FIX combo strings that dont connect properly and not add more of them. And then you can literally infinite combo with almost every weapon, they would not give every god damn weapon they release combo resets if they didnt want them in the game. Whats that logic even? Like, no. Thats just bad, unreasonable balancing and poor gamedesign and you literally don't have a single clue what you are talking about👀 You clearly lack the knowledge about the game's elements to be able to put things in the right perspective
@@SenseiiBoba I mean you were literally teaching people to do something the Devs didn't want them doing.... What did you think was going to happen? They nerfed it and then you made a second video teaching players how to reset and continue the infinite combo after the first nerf... At least pretend to not be a Toxic player/Teacher and yes you are crying and begging for players to send this to Bandai directly is proof enough. Did you do all this whining and complaining when they nerfed Healers? Defenses and jutsu that didn't need Nerfs? Did you complain this way when the second Cloud map disappeared? No. You're whining about this because it's a Toxic weapon that got you views because you were literally teaching other players to be Toxic. People like you don't deserve channels and I pray you're on Xbox so I can run into you. Have a good day kid.
No i didnt? The devs are not stupid, they know their game you cant tell me that the guys that have been designing the weapons for years, within in months of development wouldnt pick up on the combo resets, especially since almost every weapon has them, nah... thats TOTALLY intentional! Why you even say they didnt want that? You are just claiming that out of nowhere when it makes no sense. Every god damn weapon that cones out get combo resets and its mostly the same kinda drop down they wouldnt need to add but decide to do.
@@SenseiiBoba they designed it to have the reset not for you to infinite combo people and be a Douche. You literally teach people to play the game in the most Toxic way possible, it's not even an argument. It's literally what you do. If they wanted infinite combos why nerf the Asuma weapons, Chakra Claws and so on... They didn't want what you were teaching. In other words you're teaching Toxic gameplay. Simple as that.
@@juanestrada2972 tf? Bc i able go combo? The TTK is very low in this game... and fof what so you use the rests? Exactly! For infinites🤦♂️ lowkey... get off my pagd stupid
@@lamnoone-op5fp the things is, they wont, they also didnt say it like that and they also cant. But what they are trynna do is: having less situations where someone gets killed in one go without being able to sub at all, wirhout the need of external moves like obo or so
@@SenseiiBoba Yup but one solution l think is a Whole Lot simplw for the casual and hardcore player's is Just reworking the gamemodes in a better way for some reason's 1-most óbvios one is Barrier change the Boss for a better one l know gama being beat up for 3 years(l remember It was the snake before)
2 flag are Just too ease to do because one minute is Just Enough for the game mode too end and most people don't protect the flag(randoms) or way to get the flag are 50/50 With the right builds.
3 Pit there's gotta change How the gamemodes Works because someone one shot builds and goes like a trackstar around the walls With almost no way to get the 1s place only With a pull and theirs only for range and attack as for defense and healer only god know's their got a chance in the Future.
@@nobodu3384 not even that weapon was initially to broken, then got a huge nerf and was totally fine, pretty much in the upper middle field and now they messed up and rendered it useless, its bad game design nothing else
@@nobodu3384 i mean if its spammed or not doesnt change the fact that it was unbalanced and needed adjustments. Just as ppl spamming triangle with hidden cloud sword will not ever get the weapon nerfed. It was too strong and not in line with the rest of the game, so it needed to be adjusted
You're talking about the most overpowered weapon in the game it needed that nerf. When I tell you when I saw somebody with that thing if I didn't get touched and killed them immediately they killed me every time no matter what. They ought to Nerf The inferno flame sword 2
@@YashaX21 nope. After the last nerf there were alread countless weapon that were stronger than this, claws, shisui spear, twin fangs, thunder god gloves, some hand to hand types, some knuckle types, violet petals, sun beam... like, why would it need another nerf? The first one was needed, bc the weapon was broken, but after that nerf the weapon was totally fine... now you are stuck with a weapon that has no good way to get ppl to the ground, while it's also a very ground based weapon now, it has no resets at all and the whole aerial heqvy string is completely useless and cant even be used in the air and on the ground it is poibtless bc the ground one is better. It's literall the worst attack weapon in the game dawg and it was far from OP after that gigantic nerf it got before this one
@@SenseiiBoba I agree up until twin fangs, twin fangs always had a tracking issue but they are still one of the more cool weapons but in terms of reliability, I'd say they're equal now
@@UnrulyBurritsu1 no twin fangs is actually one of the most underrated weapons in the entire game, one of the absolute top tier attack weapons secretly
No? It already got nerfed and was fine, middle of the pack, nobody had any issues with it after it got nerfed the first time, you barely even saw it being used.
@@SenseiiBoba i swear there was the grounded reset heavy that was basically an inescapable infinite, but idk if that was patched or not, haven't touched the game in like months 😐😐
@@TheSupportBar no? The ground combos have no combo resets, hence its not infinite, just until combo counter is full. Thats nonsense. It never had a ground infinite
