Appreciate your honesty doc!! But all of these so-called church advice is a lack of teaching as it relates to the MANDATE of the CHURCH. This discussion again proves that probably why so many people are tuned out and turned off is a misunderstanding of the fact that the church is not just a place. It is the Body of the Lord Jesus Christ!!!
Zhara, sometimes I watch from work🤫...therefore I can't press the like button. When I come home, I watch again and oof course smash the LIKE button. 🙏❤️🇨🇦
That #5 hits home for me. I lived in Japan for a few years, and the closest International SDA church to my home was 6 hours away. This experience helped me to partake and celebrate the Sabbath in a totally different way being outside of the physical building. I spent Sabbaths in gardens, parks, and at the beach with my blanket, my Bible, and prayer journal. It was refreshing and powerful for me to spend the Sabbath in nature with the Creator, and then a few weeks at a time meet up with others within the sanctuary . Fast forward a few years and Covid hits while I was back in Jamaica. When people were up in arms about the physical building being closed, that didn't bother me one bit, because from experience I know that being inside the church building every Sabbath does not mean we are actually "keeping the Sabbath". #my2cents
This conversation is so open and frank.The way you both answer the questions and the explanation given had me in stitches but these advice from church people is so real in most churches. Good job from a young married couple.
Going to church is good. Great actually. I agree with the points. However, when you understand why the physical temple in Jerusalem was destroyed Matt 24:2 "There shall not be left here one stone upon another..." and Matt 23:38 "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate" it was symbolic. The true temple is us. Our heart/mind. Christ dwells there, not in a physical building. If you attend church day in day out and Christ doesn't dwell within you, he isn't "there" with you. YOU ARE THE CHURCH. Gathering together even under a tree is where "the church" would be at that time and its where God will be if he is in you. The church he will return for is NOT a building, not a denomination, not tradition and culture BUT, a people. Love❤❤
Don't buy anything after sunset Friday. What do I do if my pay reach late and houe empty? Stay hungry till Saturday night? Lol They said the Lord will provide lol
It is said you must be in your house after sunset so how someone should take food to you. Also Sabbath people do not want visitors after sunset. Cannot understand I am happy that thinking has changed
Being over 10yrs older than you guys I am happy that I found persons who are brave enough to talk out and who shares the same sentiments I did all those years ago. I was considered to be defiant and unruly because I didn't see things the same way older adventist did. Continue to do your thing guys. Love it!❤️ Happy Sabbath🙏
Lawwwd Gee...don't let them come for XyZ enuh...but so much truthhhhhh here! Listennn ! We must talk truth man! Church pppppllll we have so much to unlearn and relearn!!! That part about rules Vs relationship!!
5. There a literally so many ways that Jesus also spent time.outside of the synagogue on the Sabbath. Remember when He did the Sermon on the Mount, when He walked in the corn field with His disciples? Ok.
Hi XyZ couple, I am truly enjoying your vlogs. I am a Sunday worshipper but we are all children of God. I am twice your age and I am learning so much from you both. I shared your vlogs with all the young people I know. Keep up the good work children of God. This generation needs your advice and practically.
God need to multiply my bank account first!!!! Agree!!! I literally had a convo about the rules yesterday!!!!😮 The didn’t say that you need to go to church to have fellowship 😅 Number 7!!!!!!! Hit the nail on the head!!!!
Definition of REALNESS: XyZ!!! I've learnt to sift through people's opinions from a young age. I'm so grateful for the spirit of discernment and parents who were very open with me. As to the "get baby 👶" as soon yo married 😒 Let's just say people learned early NOT to come to me with foolishness!! You ah help me mind pickney??? 😏
@@adventuresofxyz22 Yup. They don't even stop to consider if people want more kids (in my case, I already had a son and my now deceased husband had 2 kids), if conception is an issue etc. You cah even enjoy yo honeymoon without talks about baby. Thank God, me change because back then, my mouth had no brakes 😶
I am very happy that you guys decide to choose this topic. I have been a christian from my mid twenties. In my church I was taught not to court and after 17 years of marriage we are now divorced. The main reason is that our advice especially from the elders were so hard and fast on us spiritually and emotionally. How can you get married to someone you don't know there flaws and strength and it's during the marriage all the mask is revealed. Yes we fasted throughout our marital counseling sessions, we prayed, very involved in most church activities and even have a chaperone on a date. On my wedding night I cried because I honestly know that I did everything the word of God says and hoping that I was fully prepared for this journey. My final say is that until the church prepare us realistic for this journey marriages like mine being so innocent is now a victim of divorce and it hurts to the core because I did the right thing by living by the word of God. I pray that no one else suffer in this way. Appreciate your videos and will continue to share with my clients and coworkers . Bless unu
Although I wasn’t brought up in the Adventist Church, I had a similar experience. I know God doesn’t love divorce but I can’t find it in me to be sorry ( I divorced him after 20 years)I did EVERYTHING the church said I should and soso grief. It pays to know God for yourself!
You're spitting facts..... just today i was saying that the things the elders tell you is not always relevant for now, the world is changing, things are changing
We're really sorry to hear about this and that you had to go through that. Maaayne, some people can impact our lives in such strong ways and they're well meaning but often misguided. Thanks for being open with us and sharing your story. We're sure, that this comment will add value to someone reading this in the comments. Blessings!
Counseling is not the pkwy to living a godly and successful marriage. Be careful of the persons who say they are marriage counselors. True love for Christ will strengthen your spiritual love and communication as you grow in your marriage. Love till death you do part. I love you guys and I appreciate your approach. ❤️❤️🌈📖🌺
Choices challenges and changes are true factors for growth. However especially in some churches young people can be wonderful assets in the church. I can attest to that.
Having babies before you are ready is not joke, don’t be pressured, ignore that advice it’s terrible stress. Take it from someone who was pregnant in first year of marriage, we did not fall for the pressure from people but because of health issues. 32 years later and I still wish that wasn’t the case.
Blessings to you both ..it is so sad how some of these Christian behave they act too perfect they are the one why alot of these young people don't want to go to church only God alone is perfect
Oh my goodness!! Guys I am way older than you are, but wished I had people like you to talk to then.I'm so happy to see the younger folks a little more open and conservative compared to when I was your age, at times I felt like l was stifling because of the strictness. You are both so refreshing and I just love listening to you, continue to be who you are, stay blessed. Happy Sabbath. ❤️❤️
What is that person are saying you should not answer calls on Sabbath, no one knows the cause of a call. It can be sickness or death call, or notify of danger ahead ( road block or shoot out)
Having positions in church does not save us. However, God has blessed us with abilities that we should use to strengthen the brethren . The church is also a body of individuals. Plans are necessary for the smooth flow, hence positions are assigned. Saying again, positions wouldn't take us to heaven or naked us better Christian but will advance the work of God.
Number 6. Is definitely true omg 😱. I live overseas and I miss worshiping in Jamaica. I used to think like this when I was in high school and I never survived church because of it. On another note, I’m glad I found this channel.
Both of u are so informative!!! Your husband need to take on the role of a PASTOR OR a marriage counselor!!! He is a very good teacher. He does not hold back on certain topics
Also a newlywed and mighty God! Wah mek dem no leave we alone?! Also the Pre-marital thing is facts. Truly. If a marriage doesn't work - did they go premarital counselling? Yeah man... that's why. Like seriously. ugh.
"Women should wear a hat (cover the hair) else it's better to cut it (keep it low)." "You should not use phone in church, use the hard copy bible and hymnal" The hymnal and bible on my phone seem to be incompetent. "You must not light stove on the sabbath" as if I'm going to eat cold food. "S*x should wait until sabbath finish. " I wonder if God didn't bless it between a married couple. A few comments I got when I started out at sda church. What do you think? Great video BTW. Thanks for your commitment to the xyz family.
I am so happy to see young Adventist Christian people on this platform. We the older SDA needed this in our younger days. I’m so looking forward for your other videos.
Thank you for another motivational video these are the kind of content that help other Christians in their walk to eternal life it helps to clarify mixed thoughts...Always a blessings watching you guys love you both ✌️
Hey guys sunday or saturday dont worry about what people have to say, you were on a mission for God and I always love to hear from Xundrae and Zarah. Blessings.
"Nothing could be further that the truth" came about three times lol Xaun the bar keeps getting higher 😂 Things a get more and more further from the truth man 😂
I think you 2 needs to come to Trinidad, some of those youths will looove the convos with u;I am no longer a member of any church but I still believe in the sabbath;I always had issues with some of the " Adventist beliefs "they keep doing the same thing and expecting different results...I got a lot of advice from older church members and it didn't come from a good place;keep those videos coming ..
If I love Zahra one more time! I became a Seventh Day Adventist very late in life and I was surprised when one Sabbath a brother complimented me on my outfit only to take it back and apologize. He said Sister White said that shouldn’t be done on the Sabbath. Yuh know surprise! But I left it alone 😂😂😂😂
Zara, as always, your hair is fabulous 👌 I heard everything that was said, but my focus was on your hair. I just love you both. Your honesty and openness are truly appreciated 💗
I have church in my home as a Community we minister outside in good weather praying for our community will surrender their souls to the Lord. When people don't want to come in building, sometimes being outside help to draw them closer to the Lord.
Yess to everything yall said, especially the idea that true worship is Eurocentric. I totally disagree with that. Heaven is gonna have all kinds of musical instruments for worshiping.
I agree with you guys, even though we need to go to church to fellowship. We can go and experience fellowship at a park, like having a nature walk, or having a Bible study with friends at times. I love to go to church every Sabbath, but I also like nature walk, are have quiet times
Hi to both of you! Your husband needs to take on the role of a PASTOR!!! He is such a good teacher ! I can really listen to him speak all the time an don’t get bored. Very interesting topics I must say!!!! Well done!!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Good food for taught I just love watching and listening to you guys you are really meant for each other you are a breath of fresh air to mind body soul keep up the good work you will be greatly rewarded👍❤️♥️🙏
There are times when it may be necessary for us to forgo the church setting to strengthen ourselves or as you rightly say bond with you friends in the Lord. Be guarded though that it's not a social but a spiritual renewal
Its #10 for me! And its ridiculous when yuh find out theres a whole hierachy within the the board. Imagine being told that there are suggestions and decisions you can't make on behalf of the department you represent and serve, because "you are NOT an executive member of the board"🤣🤣🤣
Amen to everything you said. It's time someone had this conversation. We love rules. My God I just feel that Jesus must roll his eyes sometimes when he listens to us and watch us put on shackles he came to take off us. All because some Christians feel we must try achieving perfection and their Utopian view of what that looks like here on Earth. If you're not careful you can live your whole life existing and not living, as I'm finding now in my early 50s. Indoctrination can hurt, man.
That's one of the reason why young people leave the church because of structure. For eg. So a church formulate the order in which the Sabbaths or Sunday worship is to be kept and so they follow that pattern only because that's how it's been done for generations so they keep on following the same order which not only gets boring overtime but shuts out God because you arent allowing his will to flow through days proceedings so sometimes for e.g. God wants to do praise and worship before Sabbath lessons but because of order/culture you keep sabbath lesson before worship. So the notion that you should do a particular thing a certain because that's how it's been done traditionally is by very far from the truth of God
This felt so much like a podcast episode in real life. I love it here! Thanks for sharing as always guys.... Ive heard (if not gotten) almost majority of these.....
Every Church/Denomination i kno always ask young pple about babies as soon as the ink dry on the certificate 😐i believe it because of poor socializing...in other words.they don't kno what else fi sey..so they say what comes easiest...not for all because some pple just think babies are a sign of healthy relationships😒as sad as that sound
Having grown up in the church, a lot of what you mentioned resonated with me. I love your candor and transparency. Keep up the good work. Blessings for 2023!
Babies ain't no joke you hear especially in these days and unuh still on honey moon gwan have some fun get your life in order yah anyway mi loveb unuh 😍😍😍
I love this video.. My ex husband think he didnt need to be rich cause it a go make him sin n go hell, hungry almost kill me n his child nakedness etc, I was sick n suffering from malnutrition it go on for years now we separated because he refused to work say the birds of the air don't work etc. My Christian life mash up n marriage but trying to let God fixs it I cannot see my self back with him either. Long story.. Glad for these pointers am sure other Christian hear these too
So sorry to hear about your story. He's a lazy man who has used God's word in the wrong way excuse himself from his God given responsibility as a husband. God's word clearly says: "By the sweat of your brow, you shall eat bread." Also, " It's a sin to feed a lazy man."
Oh boii, I'm so sorry to hear about that. S Clarke said it beautifully... the bible admonishes us to work for our sustenance. I'm happy to know that you have been able to see beyond that ignorant viewpoint and I pray that he will also come to that appreciation one day 🙏🏾
Sure eating well and exercise may help keep away many illnesses, however that doesn't mean one will be 100% protected from getting chronic diseases. Sickness comes with the fallen world
Many of us keep quoting scripture and quoting out of context, " be fruitful and multiply" do you notice this is a double sentence, Build yourself then multiply.Bretheren think constructive, God made us as intelligent being ,leave the young people let them enjoy themselves.
How would you relate “this is always things are always done” to Aaron’s son using strange fire? There are somethings which have to be followed without deviation. But I get your point to include things like, the order of the sabbath service.
You're correct. Biblical principles are timeless. The practical applications will necessary need to evolve while maintaining steadfast commitment to the biblical principle 🙏🏾
Xaundre ... the amount of time you had to apologize!!! ... lol! ... Love unno! On the matter of pushing boundaries - especially intimacy in relationships - the size of the step doesn't matter as much as the direction in which it leads. We should pursue purity as a direction. Purity isn't a line, it's a direction - are the things we are involved with helping us to head that way or not?
lol right bro, apologising is my thing now . And yes, you're on point with this for sure. As usual, always so deep in your thought process lol. Definitely gonna steal this one "purity isn't a line, it's a direction"
I was invited to a Sabbat service and I went the person who invites me tell je that Sunday is the wrong day of worship all I said to the person if he can proves is there a different bibe I said to him all the churches use the same bibles
It's a blessing to watch you guys listening to sound advice, even though I'm a Sunday worshipper twice as older than you guys but I enjoy your vlogs so much, keep up the good work.
