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The Worst HBCU Band of 2021 - (LC) Livingstone College in North Carolina Reaction 

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Hear my thoughts about the Livingstone College band performance that never should occurred on the university/college level in 2021 or period.
If you were a member of this band and saw the playback of this fiasco, would you know how to describe what happened or try to erase yourself from even being associated?

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@fayeshacole437
@fayeshacole437 2 года назад
Thank you sir! I appreciate your kind words on this platform. It’s very hard to keep these programs moving. We should always have a certain level of excellence no matter what our size or circumstances. Fayesha Cousins, Director of Bands, Virginia Union University
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
I couldn’t agree more!
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
Are you and Nikole Roebuck the only two women Director of Bands at HBCUs? CAU had a woman, not sure if she's still there.
@denisenewton1510
@denisenewton1510 2 года назад
You are right they have other people do the recruiting for them the band director in my opinion I have never seen him come to Jacksonville and do any kind of recruiting here I know lots of other people that are doing recruiting for this college but in my opinion they don't offer the students enough money and support of their education which is also part of the problem
@BandTubeHD
@BandTubeHD 2 года назад
He's not lying. Nothing about this is good. The basic marching fundamentals aren't even there...band, we can't even tuck shirts in and look the same... we have to add insult to an already injured injury...stop playing and do better.
@jmg24bad
@jmg24bad 2 года назад
People gonna say you are hating, and tearing the band down, but you are just speaking truth.
@paiytn304
@paiytn304 2 года назад
This should've never been seen in public. I know kids in high school that sound better during summer camp. Who's the Director they should've been terminated. Take pride in your program people. Ive read comments and it seems some won't call a spade a spade. I marched with the Juke and I be dam if we'd ever look like this. Size isn't the issue but preparation isn't existant.
@gregorymorris1467
@gregorymorris1467 2 года назад
In my opinion that juke gonna alway be the best band in the nation. Bar set high at Southern thanks to foundation that Doc put down. You know the motto
@solidrock7998
@solidrock7998 3 месяца назад
I always agree with your "worst band" segments.
@josephreese5883
@josephreese5883 2 года назад
They sacrificed musicianship for entertainment.
@kennethsherrill5021
@kennethsherrill5021 2 года назад
Constructive criticism is still ok even though society cant handle it anymore.. Lies dont help.. They need an overhaul of the entire program.
@frankbrown6088
@frankbrown6088 2 года назад
Yoooooo to erybody in these comments bashing @Buck5ThatBandGuy for stating the obvious. I dare you to send this footage to any other critique platform. 100% sure they will say the same thing.
@milesrevolution07
@milesrevolution07 2 года назад
Please! Never delete this video! 😂
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
You better believe I won't! Thanks for watching.
@denisenewton1510
@denisenewton1510 2 года назад
They still on a high school leave
@deneciaolawumi2159
@deneciaolawumi2159 Год назад
Stop talking so much and just show the video please
@runwaycoach6442
@runwaycoach6442 Год назад
If you can't play, you don't deserve to dance. End of story.
@korjanaialbright9874
@korjanaialbright9874 2 года назад
As a member of Allen university Band Of Gold thank you for the compliments. We work really hard because we are a small band. Glad our hard work is being noticed
@txdominoe
@txdominoe 2 года назад
Go help out Mr big stuff
@sirwilliam2002
@sirwilliam2002 2 года назад
LIVING-STONE brotha....
@terrencejenkins3198
@terrencejenkins3198 3 года назад
I’m a band enthusiast and this saddens me to see an HBCU band like this.
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
Amen! The delusion must stop, huh bruh? I am a band enthusiast too and love the musicianship an HBCU band exudes. This is not acceptable.
@laneywildcats3549
@laneywildcats3549 2 года назад
Honestly I fault the band director, if it was me, I would have them 5, 6, 7, 8ing NONE stop learning to MARCH first, then get them in that band room and teach them the scales etc, then teach them music I would NEVER let my band go out sounding and looking like that. Another thing, if you forget your spats etc, YOU DON"T MARCH.
@denisenewton1510
@denisenewton1510 2 года назад
They do not practice most of the girls are jealous of other girls because they are better so they end up breaking down the other young lady and the young lady end up quitting the team so there's no confidence going on and it's a lot of jealousy going on in between the girls on the team a lot of the band members of people that have pulled that came to the school and they just put them out there just to have a spot filled that's it
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
There's a reason most bands in the SWAC don't have to recruit. Of course those are larger schools with larger programs, and Livingstone is a private university, with limited funds, but NO ONE can be okay with this. And we need to stop making excuses and defending this mediocrity. The poster didn't lie. IT"S ALL ON VIDEO! If this is the best the band director can do, then maybe it's time to replace him with someone who's going to take pride, and have some discipline, in his/her organization. I remember when Edward Waters came to Baton Rouge in 2019 with maybe 30 band members. They showed up and didn't back down to that beast of a band across the field. They put up a good fight and weren't bad either. Kentucky State has also made a resurgence. (Check out KSU vs Tenn State) They're not a big band but they hired a new director who started recruiting and is turning the program around. As someone said, ""Size doesn't dictate quality."
@iamjdoug
@iamjdoug 2 года назад
What college did you March at?
@ixel_4x
@ixel_4x 2 года назад
3:19 I had to log tf off Lmfaooooo didn’t even need to hear the rest of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rakishaking6626
@rakishaking6626 Год назад
This is when Tau Beta Sigma and Kappa Kappa Psi alumni should be contacted. Maybe they could go offer their assistance. I'm sure there may be members in the area.
@fairyqueengee
@fairyqueengee Год назад
They are already there.
@thekidnotsogreat6781
@thekidnotsogreat6781 2 года назад
How as a band director do you let this slide?
@Delicious1922
@Delicious1922 2 года назад
😂😂😂
@seanbruzah6170
@seanbruzah6170 2 года назад
Take notes from Edward waters college band they're small and nice
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
I mentioned them in a previous post. They came to Baton Rouge with maybe 30, 35 members and didn't back down to the Juke. They didn't sound bad either. Size doesn't matter if the quality is there.
@australiabanks6483
@australiabanks6483 2 года назад
Corrective Criticism is Good. Someone needs to breath life into the Livingstone College Band Program.
@nicholaslewis8381
@nicholaslewis8381 2 года назад
As a student of this school I’ll be the first to say our band may need a little work. But I’m not sure who deemed you qualified to be the judge of that. We don’t know you and I don’t see your talent going down in the “musician hall of fame”so unless you about to come and be of some sort of help you and this struggling ass RU-vid channel can kick 🪨😁😁
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
Nicholas, did you listen to the band before posting this comment? I understand being angry, but nothing this guy said was a lie. This band shouldn't have even taken the field. It's embarrassing.
@jayilastancil943
@jayilastancil943 2 года назад
@@skidiva1 good morning ma’am idc how bad they sounded that’s still my school and I’m never going to go against them .As I said before if he’s not going to be of some sort of help he ,along with you can put a sock in it. And y’all soo fixated on our band y’all missing the fact that we had a graduate in the Olympics and some more sooo…. What we talking about now. I just would like for y’all to give us as much props and praise as much as y’all try to degrade and critique us -Nicholas
@DrADeeL-zb8eb
@DrADeeL-zb8eb 3 года назад
I'm a graduate of LC (🖤💙🏀) but this isn't good at all 🤦🏾‍♀️🥴...lawwd.
@onlyantie7939
@onlyantie7939 2 года назад
When you said college I was like wtf I’m thinking it’s a high school
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
Is the band director TRYING to get fired, because...
@nicholasbuck4355
@nicholasbuck4355 3 года назад
Lil do yu knw Salisbury high school is walking distance from Livingstone so why he hasn’t done it idk
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 3 года назад
I know!! It’s funny though, the most obvious things a person can do to help their situation, they tend to overlook. Thanks for watching!
@michaelcapers8129
@michaelcapers8129 2 года назад
What’s up man I went to livingstone when were actually progressing as a band . Check out 2010- 2014, and up . It’s more then that’s meets the eye .
@jasonsan9517
@jasonsan9517 2 года назад
I was thinking you were probably about to be to hard on this band. Then I heard the band! Dude, you were kind to them! They are AWFUL! There are many high school bands that are better than this!!! 😒🙄🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
@uptdc2008
@uptdc2008 Год назад
YIKES!!!!!!! 😳😳 My bestfriend went here, let me show her this video!! 😑
@DJohn83
@DJohn83 Год назад
As a HBCU band alumni, I can honestly say that I’ve never been so bewildered by a performance in my life! I’m convinced that they were playing 2 songs, simultaneously . Could have at least given it their all on the breakdown. Your commentary was hilarious 😂 though.
@Chozen13
@Chozen13 3 года назад
Can you do LC week 2 vs BSU to see improvement
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 3 года назад
Got ya! I will do this reaction and post it a little later.
@stefonduncan831
@stefonduncan831 2 года назад
Fr and I was there that game
@nasj4235
@nasj4235 2 года назад
That band director needs to be fired for this. I can only imagine seeing this performance in person. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@mblak1006
@mblak1006 2 года назад
What is the Kazoo is this?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@taflem3
@taflem3 2 года назад
They don't even recruit in their city. I was one of the best percussionist in Salisbury in 2005 and got nothing from LC and took my talents to ECSU.
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
See!! Missing out on all this good talent. All they need to do is network with the schools and you probably would have been at Livingstone!!
@jamesfieldsiii5605
@jamesfieldsiii5605 2 года назад
It was good choice going to ECSU P.O.I. till I die
@RobertLoyale
@RobertLoyale 2 года назад
😂 aye man chill out on my undergrad - BTones and Euphonium has always been the best section. We lost steam as a band entirely somewhere around 2009 though. I remember when we had to audition for the field. It’s not like that anymore. I remember before i left i was trying to unify the brass section. The mellophones and trumpets have no harmony. The lower brass was always a B rating to me. But it’s just not in the band’s direction.
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
I'll chill out when they sound better. What they sound like this year because I'm about to revisit them again. According to what I hear, you might be upset with me again. Standby!
@mallisa33
@mallisa33 3 года назад
Its LIVINGSTONE NOT LIVINGSTON
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 3 года назад
You’re right. I said it correctly at the end in my monologue…lol!
@mallisa33
@mallisa33 3 года назад
@@Buck5thatbandguy I am a graduate of there it drives me crazy 😂.
@karawill911
@karawill911 2 года назад
I hate when I hear people say Livingston!!! It drives me crazy
@karlsmalls1918
@karlsmalls1918 3 года назад
Get the name right.
@khystrick108
@khystrick108 2 года назад
This video just made me mad, lift them up, not tear em down. Everyone makes mistakes
@khystrick108
@khystrick108 2 года назад
That should come from the band director. They still performed it just wasn’t their best . They went out there instead of not doing it at all
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
@@khystrick108 "it just wasn’t their best." You see what the band director allowed to go onto the field, right? That is embarrassing and no director worth ANYTHING would do this. That band and that performance is a reflection of him. I'm so sorry that the words being spoken are hard for you to take, but baby that's life. The truth ain't always wrapped up in a nice package with a bow.
@samjackson3981
@samjackson3981 2 года назад
I feel bad for the kids. This was embarrassing.
@Qpsilove
@Qpsilove 3 года назад
Maybe the band needs to see and hear this then ask, “what is the measuring stick for good?”
@denisenewton1510
@denisenewton1510 2 года назад
That don't have enough flags
@gregorymorris1467
@gregorymorris1467 2 года назад
We have high school bands here in Louisiana specifically Baton Rouge and New Orleans will definitely show them musicianship
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
I'm already knowing
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
In Dekalb County, Georgia as well.
@jarjthejargj6099
@jarjthejargj6099 2 года назад
If I had been there, when the announcer yelled “Let’s go! Yeah!” during the band’s performance, I would’ve taken that as a cue to leave.
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
Something needed to happen!
@458sammy
@458sammy 2 года назад
Sounds like a high school band
@rimingtonstill-magnolia6645
@rimingtonstill-magnolia6645 3 года назад
My director before him was that very entity for the recruitment and they canned him for allegedly moving shady with that. We had no funds to do that. I served under him from 05 to 2010. Graduated 09 and did an extra year for music intern credit. I will share a link from those years...the music caliber is a huge difference but could have been better...no excuse but u can tell a hella difference. New director he is all show. Very cocky and does not want any help from anyone. I will show the year I went...and I am deeply saddened for the kids. And lastly, this is Livingstone college Marching Blue Thunder.....I was apart of Livingstone College Marching Quiet Storm.#thetraditiondiedwhenhewashired Another few links shortly
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
Now that's sad and to no fault of the students if that's the case. In the end, they suffer as a result. Look at this performance, they were obviously not equipped to succeed. Well...I'm glad you shed some light on this for me. I'll include my email on this platform. Please email me those previous links, so I can update the story in the future.
@rimingtonstill-magnolia6645
@rimingtonstill-magnolia6645 2 года назад
@@Buck5thatbandguy its not my channel I got them from but type in anything with the words "2009 Livingstone college marching quiet storm" but to show my pride, I do apologize for not giving the correct way to say "Living-stone." I love my Alma mater, and achieving my Bachelor's of Arts in Mucic is something that I love too. There's a fine line with criticism and bash. As a fellow musician, I'm not as vocal with a channel like yourself so I do understand that this segment you have done was very enlightening to those that share the same passion for musicianship as well as the uplift those kids that have a desire to keep Titanic afloat by trying to turn around with a captain that insists that they will survive after the iceberg strikes... I'm not at all saying that my years were as great as The Blue Devil Space Chords. I am saying that the heart we had is the same heart those kids have. The bulid the band had back then was that we had heart. Roads were rocky, rough, and challenging. We knew what lied ahead of us and it was gonna be hell. Time was what we had with a wonderful director in his own right a damn fine musician. He was our captain and we wouldn't have traded him for the world our years.i think It's just time for a new direction and I hope they get it soon. Any Blue Thunder reading this, keep fighting and nobody can want change but you guys! It starts with yourselves. The channel I got mine was from the name Eastempire
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
@@rimingtonstill-magnolia6645 I tell you this! I’ll fight the fight for all of us musicians that love this HBCU band life and experience. I’m vocal because that’s the only way change will happen.
@rimingtonstill-magnolia6645
@rimingtonstill-magnolia6645 2 года назад
@@Buck5thatbandguy that's wassup. 💯
@kingstouchdecorandevents743
@kingstouchdecorandevents743 2 года назад
I’m a native of Salisbury born and raised and wanting to watch LC March was lit. Now Idk what happen. Each year it’s worse and worse.
@khystrick108
@khystrick108 2 года назад
At least they performed , instead of not doing it at all
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
They shouldn't have taken the field at all. Do you all not understand the meaning of pride and quality? There was NONE on display here.
@Puddin09
@Puddin09 2 года назад
I love the to see our HBCUs, being a graduate from one myself and a dancer, these girls are really trying but definitely need some practice
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
Yeah, they were trying, but you can clearly see the leadership failed them.
@ysndaedae
@ysndaedae 2 года назад
I blame it on the director
@mrfamu
@mrfamu 3 года назад
I stumbled here and folks say that bcu and famu shows boring hmmmm continue
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
FAMU and BCU's shows are a little bland because of the slow tempos, marches and technical pieces, but the bands themselves are great when it comes to effort, spirit and flat out musicianship!
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
@@Buck5thatbandguy "FAMU and BCU's shows are a little bland because of the slow tempos, marches and technical pieces," Now that they're both in the SWAC, I think that may change. SU, JSU, and and an up-and-coming Tx SU, will make you do that.
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
@@skidiva1 I’m hoping that’s the case, but the current directors are so rooted in the FAMU and BCU band identities, that I’m not too sure they know how to adapt and assimilate. We will see, but I’m not very optimistic. In a perfect world, they would tweak the program to fit the intensity and aggressive nature that is the SWAC, but they already have chips on their shoulders that will not be easily removed.
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
@@Buck5thatbandguy I'm giving them the benefit. Otherwise, sitting across from the Juke, SBOTS, and Ocean (Brian Simmons, former assistant at Southern, is turning that program around quickly) and being shown up will get old.
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
@@skidiva1 We’ll keep an ear on it won’t we!?
@BussTheGod
@BussTheGod 2 года назад
Hope they can get it together but that skip after the dance routine got me dead 💀, 8:43 mark look like base drummer talking with the cymbal player
@brienb796
@brienb796 Год назад
Horrible
@korjanaialbright9874
@korjanaialbright9874 2 года назад
Pls react to allen university in this video
@jakaylasharpe8949
@jakaylasharpe8949 3 года назад
I AM a student of this band. I would like to speak with you personally.
@jmg24bad
@jmg24bad 2 года назад
What section are you in?
@artoismta
@artoismta 2 года назад
@@jmg24bad no cap that is a good question.
@stefonduncan831
@stefonduncan831 2 года назад
I got to all of y’all’s games keep ur head up don’t let ppl like this destroy confidence
@jakaylasharpe8949
@jakaylasharpe8949 2 года назад
@@stefonduncan831 thank you so much!!
@jakaylasharpe8949
@jakaylasharpe8949 2 года назад
@@jmg24bad mellophone
@melmcgee771
@melmcgee771 2 года назад
LC 2012-2013 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾We We’re The Best ‼️
@jameswideman8878
@jameswideman8878 2 года назад
That arrangement sounds VERY..VERY FAMILIAR....coming from Norfolk..👀
@thehybridhimself22
@thehybridhimself22 2 года назад
Which song
@pock3tdrumma337
@pock3tdrumma337 3 года назад
Soooo, he makes all of these suggestions that "sound good". HOWEVER, the band director does his part recruiting but the school ain't paying. Case and point, he may get kids from the Midwest or even locally. The school itself is not awarding these kids enough to cover tuition continously... so after a year or 2, those kids end up back at home.... whoever left over whether they can play or not makes up the program...
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
Why does the band program exist at all then? If you want to just tolerate inconsistency and bad representation? It's an injustice to the school, program and the student body. I do not care how you slice it, it's a poor display of pride and effort. Look, if you don't set an example of success, they are going to end up back home anyway. I'm going to point it out every time. That's the issue, everyone wants to coddle and say it will be ok, but the truth is, this world is cruel and if you can't have pride from within, why even go to college. They didn't practice or try to make a good showing.
@laneywildcats3549
@laneywildcats3549 2 года назад
still before they perform on the field the director should have made it a POINT to have musicality FIRST, they sound like a high school band trying to come back up that was good back in the 70s or 80s
@clarencefisher7082
@clarencefisher7082 2 года назад
Don't cry about band students not getting scholarships. Only a small percentage of A&Ts Blue and Gold Marching Machine get any scholarships money. Scholarships help but no HBCU has enough money for band scholarships.
@morseeinhd9898
@morseeinhd9898 2 года назад
@@clarencefisher7082 that’s not true students may not get full rides but they can definitely award scholarships and most do
@ZebraLens
@ZebraLens 2 года назад
@@clarencefisher7082 I think yes they need help, but to your point, NCAT is a public school and Livingston is private, so tuition is naturally going to be more affordable at NCAT. Take BCU for example, they are a private school, but their school administration chooses to fund the band program despite their enrollment being more in line with other private HBCUs. The same with Talladega College. Then you have other schools like Livingston where their school administration chooses not to invest in the program as much as other schools. Mix that with the band director (probably not doing their best), and you get this. 😬
@karterjrichardson2528
@karterjrichardson2528 2 года назад
Whewwwwww....what can i do to help cause Oh My
@reginaldwashington9357
@reginaldwashington9357 2 года назад
Agree, I've heard High School perform better than this. I was a booster for a middle school that when people heard them they thought it was a High School.
@doronaphillips5879
@doronaphillips5879 2 года назад
Hmmm…This isn’t cool.
@buddyfaya8631
@buddyfaya8631 2 года назад
🤣
@stefonduncan831
@stefonduncan831 2 года назад
After being around livingstone for 8 years ur pretty much bashing the band u haven’t said anything good abt the band at all in the video
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
Why would he lie? We ALL see the final product right there on the field, there's really nothing good to say.
@ajdavis98775
@ajdavis98775 2 года назад
Band just need more sectionals to tighten up on these simple arrangements
@director1914
@director1914 2 года назад
The arrangements are not supporting that ensemble. Also the formation doesnt allow for the students to listen to one another. Simply reorganizing the sections and moving them in closer would result in a total different sound
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
Thank you, Keavon! However, I’m afraid their band director is failing them from what I’m discovering.
@khystrick108
@khystrick108 2 года назад
U wrong though, cause they already pushing, to perform, it might have not been the best. But u just out flat bashed them. They tried !!
@laneywildcats3549
@laneywildcats3549 2 года назад
I will have to agree, when we were in High School we came in on the FIRST note, I wish you would miss it.
@karlsmalls1918
@karlsmalls1918 3 года назад
Get the name right please
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 3 года назад
You didn’t watch until the end, huh? I said it right in my closing monologue. Thanks for pointing that out tho.
@braxtonramseur975
@braxtonramseur975 2 года назад
Noooooooooo sound like Dudley High In gboro N.c
@hesrealclose1599
@hesrealclose1599 2 года назад
Please tell me Dudley HS doesn’t sound like this.
@clarencefisher7082
@clarencefisher7082 2 года назад
Hey I've seen and heard Dudley's High School's band and Livingstone's band can't touch them.
@pitbull64
@pitbull64 2 года назад
Let's build them up. Not tear them down. Support our HBCU bands
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
I hear you, it's just simple accountability though. You know the generations feel entitled and don't have the same intensity we did in the 90's or early 2000's and before. I am not going to let anyone take the greatness of HBCU programs and water them down to walking off the field. I am going to call it out every time! Honestly, the students are adults legally and should we look over failure?! This was a fail. If they do not take pride in the band, why does it exist?
@clarencefisher7082
@clarencefisher7082 2 года назад
Hey this is college not Jr hi...they don't need to be coddled. This performance is bad. The band director and upper classes should be meeting right now to plan and put together a strategy to get better next season.
@mblak1006
@mblak1006 2 года назад
Here we go- you believe everyone should get a trophy huh?
@marvisroriejr.9771
@marvisroriejr.9771 2 года назад
I believe it is important to take many things into consideration when critiquing any band performing in 2021-2022 and probably the next 5 years. The COVID response has completely devastated some band programs while hardly affecting others. In an example of extremes, some high school bands of 120 resumed with almost no decline in number, while others collapsed and no longer exist. I believe critiquing any band in this era requires a mandatory investigation into their situation. Some marching bands were allowed to resume, but only outside, with limited numbers, and only in shifts for larger programs. Some bands were only allowed to combine on the day of a performance. Some bands lost most or all of their staff due to either COVID restrictions or staff hesitancy to return to the setting. Was any of this true for Livingstone? They may be lucky to have a band, much less one of the quality they would desire. I do know one aspect of their situation. I recently ran into one of LC's traditional HS feeders. The director informed me that membership dropped by more than 50%. I was also informed that of the 4 middle schools with feed that HS, 2 no longer have band programs. When it is suggested that LC should go out and mentor (which was undoubtedly restricted due to COVID precautions), this suggestion fails to take into consideration that there may be no one or very few people to mentor. I doubt any "lacking" in this band's program in 2021 is due to a failure to "reach out". Even thinking of the freshmen in this video...these are students who may not have touched a horn in almost 2 years. The story behind the performance has always been important, but it is 100% necessary to know the story before critiquing these days. In my area, several middle schools have 6th, 7th, and 8th grade bands that are all beginner bands due to closure, inability to recruit, and performance restrictions due to COVID precautions. Those programs will feed (or not feed, in some cases) university programs who will have to go through serious adjustments as those classes work their way through. Some high schools are having to offer beginning band classes to rebuild. The universities they feed will be receiving "8th graders", not HS seniors. If I may critique a critique. The comment made about not being able to hear the melody in Boogie Wonderland is accurate...because Boogie Wonderland is about 90% groove and 10% melody at most. It was probably intentional... programming a song that is more groove than melody. If you are lacking melody instruments or if your typical melody sections are weak, avoid melody-heavy music.
@vashkarvashkar4051
@vashkarvashkar4051 2 года назад
What? What Boogie Wonderland are you listening to?
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
@@vashkarvashkar4051 Definitely not the one they were trying to play.
@Doc5Wat
@Doc5Wat 2 года назад
Now, I’m not making excuses for LC’s performances. There are so many fundamental things (intonation, balance and blend) that would improve them - things such as music selections that should be rearranged to demonstrate strength in sections, not expose weaknesses. Or, don’t select pieces where the melody is so heavily syncopated, like Boogie Wonderland, if you don’t have the horses in your band to cover both the melody and the counter melody. However, there are so many possible factors that effect band programs that weren’t addressed. For example, what is the state of LC’s music department? Do they have a music department? Etc. Just saying…
@liquidlightz
@liquidlightz 2 года назад
Boogie Wonderland being 90% groove and 10% melody is wholly inaccurate. I've heard NSU, FAMU and others play this and heard the melody that Maurice White was singing very clearly. The only "groove" section of the song is right before the final bridge of the song and most bands don't even play that section. Sounds like you have a lot of excuses. I taught middle schoolers and they sounded better than this.
@ayshamairelle5239
@ayshamairelle5239 3 года назад
And this is the worst quality video of 2021
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
It'll get better. I've got to put a little more money into my software. I'm using the free version right now. I'll upgrade to the pro version here shortly. I had to make sure I wasn't wasting my time. I needed to learn the software and make sure I could produce something people would watch. Didn't want to spend a lot of money and effort if no one even watched or cared....you can understand that, right?
@FunkyPantherUSMC
@FunkyPantherUSMC 2 года назад
People are in their feelings because he is telling the truth. This is not a good look...I hope the pep band is better.
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
Yeah, but he can purchase new software and the video quality will get better, can't say that about the product the director put on the field. It also doesn't change the fact that the band needs a lot of work and if the current director doesn't have what it takes to do that, it may be time to make a change. It's telling that so many of the comments are criticizing the video quality instead of addressing what we all see and HEAR on that field. I know this new "everybody gets a trophy" generation doesn't take correction or criticism well, but we're now seeing the results of that policy. Grow up or the real world is going to beat you silly.
@ayshamairelle5239
@ayshamairelle5239 2 года назад
This is a video during covid. I had an updated band clip in one of my videos. Everything was struggling. I hate videos like this cause instead of it being positive it highlights what our community lacks. Ain't nobody in they feelings over that. I highlighted the video quality and what? I never said the band didn't sound a hot mess. Just like he can upgrade his quality so could the band but that's not what the video is about so.. ....
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
@@ayshamairelle5239 "I hate videos like this cause instead of it being positive it highlights what our community lacks." So no one is supposed to say anything about what we all can see AND hear? That's a huge problem in our community. You're not supposed call each other out on anything, just accept the status quo. Well I'm sick of it. I hope the band director, and even some of the members, sees this video and maybe do some serious soul searching. And please do not blame this on COVID, this was from 7 months ago. Do you honestly think other bands didn't go through the same thing? Yet they somehow managed to put out a much better product. There is NO excuse for this.
@quietstorm677
@quietstorm677 2 года назад
I graduated from Livingstone College in the eighties. Have you considered mentoring this band.? Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
Of course! that's my goal once I have a bigger voice in this HBCU band landscape. I've got really big plans to assist a lot of the CIAA, SIAC and MEAC programs. Thanks for your comment!
@bernardbradley6603
@bernardbradley6603 2 года назад
Can’t mentor anyone who doesn’t want help. That band director needs to go…
@duanerichardson5715
@duanerichardson5715 Год назад
@@bernardbradley6603 exactly
@crowike9006
@crowike9006 Год назад
I can answer this, yes. They want to be at this level. Drove from Ga to help and nothing.
@jimmyred1978
@jimmyred1978 Год назад
@@crowike9006 Are you serious that you drove from Georgia in attempt to help.
@KharismaticKing
@KharismaticKing 3 года назад
More emphasis should be placed on the quality of your videos before critiquing the band. You said your purpose wasn’t to bash, but throughout the video, you bashed them. Maybe you should volunteer or mentor some of them since you have a lot of input.
@ajdavis98775
@ajdavis98775 2 года назад
The man is entitled to his opinion and suggestions just the same as the opinion you are expressing
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
To address the quality of my videos. I just started and I haven't upgraded my editing software...I was going the free route for now because I'm not making any money from doing these videos...you can understand that right? However, I will eventually buy the pro version of the software I use. I had to figure out the basics of using it first. Presently, I volunteer with bands and teach trumpet lessons where I live. Trust me, I am very passionate about this subject because I know what a good band and pride looks like. I have two trumpet players that I instruct now that are foster children, practice religiously and would give their right and left arms to be accepted into any college band program. I know what desire and effort looks like. I refuse to not speak up. It's my opinion and I know you didn't think that display from Livingstone College was satisfactory?
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
The truth isn't bashing. It's hard to receive criticism, especially when there's proof to back it up. The video isn't lying. I'm so sorry you feel this way, but...
@lalaess2426
@lalaess2426 2 года назад
And what instrument do you play? What’s the purpose? Have you talked to the band director instead of publicly embarrassing these kids with your negativity? Grow up. I can’t stand a bully
@skidiva1
@skidiva1 2 года назад
He said at the beginning of the video that like the band director, he plays trumpet. And he's not embarrassing those kids, that honor goes to the director and an honorable mention to the kids.
@lvplackbussy9831
@lvplackbussy9831 2 года назад
Almost as bad as the Spartan Legion.
@Buck5thatbandguy
@Buck5thatbandguy 2 года назад
Really…tell me more?
@NewKingJames_
@NewKingJames_ 2 года назад
Which Spartan legion?!?!
@NSUMDFS
@NSUMDFS 2 года назад
Damn, folks just be saying anything on the internet. Tell us you're a hater, without saying you're a hater. 🙄 The Legion must have dusted your ass once and you still mad.
@NSUMDFS
@NSUMDFS 2 года назад
@@Buck5thatbandguy go ahead and look up the Legion...you'll realize this person shouldn't have internet access
@tyruswalker7384
@tyruswalker7384 2 года назад
He gotta be trollin lol
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