The WORST Pilot Tries To Land!

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Is this the worst pilot in the world or is there more to the story? Why is he having such a hard time landing his Citation? The truth might surprise you.
When I first listened to the audio of this incident, I knew there had to be more to the story. After some investigating I discovered the most likely reason why this pilot is not able to land his aircraft. The problem is one that a lot of pilots might have experienced in the past and it's definitely something new pilots should be aware of. I hope this video debrief helps other pilots and aspiring pilots!
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@jasonconrad7664 8 месяцев назад

What do you need to land? A pilot. He needs a pilot.

@samiam7525 6 месяцев назад

Baahahaha 😂😂😂😂

@AVKingJamesBible 6 месяцев назад

😂😂😂

@Lord_Volkner 6 месяцев назад

If I was her, my thoughts would be to tell him something like, "Just find an empty spot in the desert and crash. I'll send search and rescue."

@kaleoride 6 месяцев назад

hahahaha

@jamesoncross7494 6 месяцев назад

LMAO!!!!!!!!

@johnszakach5582 Год назад

This is a fantastic controller. Talking slow knowing it’s a foreign registration and English is a second language. Never raising her volume of expressing frustration. Unbelievably great job. What saved everyone was not having any other traffic in the pattern.

@pilot-debrief Год назад

Ya, can you imagine this happening on a busy Sunday afternoon??? 😳

@sherw7635 Год назад

She deserves a medal.

@flutebasket4294 Год назад

She sure sounds condescending and frustrated to me. I mean, not the worst I've ever heard, but her tone is clearly unpleasant

@neilmackay3986 Год назад

@@flutebasket4294 She is the epitome of cool, calm and collected.

@flutebasket4294 Год назад

@@neilmackay3986 If you can't hear the impatience in her tone, you and I don't live in the same universe

@sunnyscott4876 6 месяцев назад

I'm not a pilot, but I fly in and out of Las Vegas all the time. Someone, please give this precious ATC lady a raise. She's keeping us all safe. ❤

@markcavandish1295 5 месяцев назад

Absolutely!

@runem5429 4 месяца назад

I know you mean as a passenger, but I have to ask for humor: "Broom or you just whatever on the whole licence thing?"

@SndyOr День назад

@@runem5429 OMG because I was a gate agent it went over my head and I filled in the words for him/her as I am used to that assumption. When I went back and read it again, I giggled picturing the Broom and that person realized it did sound funny because they didn't bother to come back at you.

@80cardcolumn Месяц назад

The legends say he's up there still, circling forever, turning left and missing the runway.

@rrnonya5472 Месяц назад

Yeah, I saw him a few weeks ago, nice guy but just stuck in a loop

@Sooos-em4mj Месяц назад

Gulf, Taco, Taco.... priceless.

@nsmccoy2345 Месяц назад

😂😂😂

@antoniotula262 18 дней назад

This is scary. Educational, but scary as hell!!!!

@drl5002 7 дней назад

Probably a glitch on the matrix.

@terrywoodfield4081 Год назад

I have a single landing at LAS at night in a Cessna 172. It happened many years ago. Las Vegas was a sea of lights. I knew the airport was east of the Luxor Pyramid, but I could not distinguish the airport lights from all of the casino and street lights. When ATC asked me if I had the runway in sight, I replied, "Negative," and the controller said, "Then we'll flash the runway lights for you." This action clearly delineated the runway, and I landed without incident. The friendly and helpful action of the controller prevented me from having the same experience as the Citation pilot in this video. I assume VGT has a similar problem with city lights at night, so this may have been a factor that contributed to the pilot's confusion.

@spiller212 Год назад

…and you did the right thing by admitting you couldn’t see the runway. Consequently, the controllers provided help and you landed safely. I don’t understand why the Citation pilot didn’t do the same.

@baileyhumphreys8078 Год назад

This makes sense but I still can’t figure out why he couldn’t even hold a heading

@nemo227 Год назад

Too many lights can have a psychedelic effect but this "landing" leaves us with a LOT of questions.

@mdhsabh Год назад

Been there-done that; landing Huntsville at night; airport's a big black hole with indistinguishable runway lights when they're off or on lowest setting--all surrounded by the lights of the city. I was coming in for touch-and-gos, and told tower I couldn't tell where the airport was. I asked for the whole light show, and it was stunning! Only thing missing was the Star Wars music! But, yeah, you can ask for the lights anytime, or vectors...or turn the lights on yourself (usually on CTAF freq) if the tower's closed.

@shartov Год назад

to me, it's unreal that a citation pilot can't follow the basics of flying and communication.

@charlesmoore1762 Год назад

She sounds like a mother patiently telling her child how to steer a bike. She never raised her voice; she never yelled “WTF are you DOING up there?” She should get the “Patience of Job” award! Great job! (as @johnsz… said.)

@N8570E 10 месяцев назад

To me (the father of 6), if she was a mother she would have been at least a little nervous. There would have been emotion in her voice. This controller was rock solid in her voice. She expressed concern, but did not sound nervous. To me there is a big difference.

@thenelsonbruhs722 8 месяцев назад

Yeah that’s a really good controller

@stanislavkostarnov2157 7 месяцев назад

you mean a "Patience on the Job" award?😂

@mattnnz 7 месяцев назад

She just wants him out of her life so that he crashes his plane on someone else's shift.

@johnlillyblad5188 6 месяцев назад

She sounds amused near the end

@Robodebt1010 4 месяца назад

Congratulations to ATC. The controller is again the hero of this story. Understanding the pilot was having problems and not knowing exactly why… she remains calm… offers constant assistance.. with endless patience. She deserves a medal for her outstanding professionalism and focus on getting the aircraft down safely. Her only concern is the safety of the pilot and aircraft and does all she can to assist. This tower controller represents the very best in ATC. Bravo! The entire flying community.. including passengers.. owe a huge debt of gratitude to everyone who works in ATC.

@capacitacionatcenlinea2.104 Месяц назад

I work as an atc, and the lady is not doing a good job. That not the way to control, i don't know what she is doing.

@jamesbauer5782 4 месяца назад

As a jet pilot he should have an instrument approach loaded into the navigation which would draw a straight line out from the runway...There is absolutely no reason for this kind of negligence

@sarahmacintosh6449 Год назад

As frustrating as this is to watch, I'm happier to be watching this than watching the accident video because he tried to force one of his many unstable approaches. So good on him for having the patience (and fuel) to keep trying until he gets it right. And the controller is legendary 😍

@pilot-debrief Год назад

I think he had the patience because he didn’t think anything was wrong. This was all normal for him it seemed.

@sarahmacintosh6449 Год назад

@@pilot-debrief That's a horrifying thought 😳🤔

@RealRickCox Год назад

I can't, for the life of me, understand why a fast jet like this wasn't flying a stabilized, straight-in approach. This would never happen in a commercial airline and it seems like this pilot needs to go back for more training... he's clearly not capable of doing the basics. I sure as hell don't ever want this guy piloting a plane I'm on.

@EmmaDaisy 9 месяцев назад

@@pilot-debrief Possible hypoxia? His other landings were perfectly fine.

@ligandil 9 месяцев назад

@@EmmaDaisy Maybe but unlilkely. This is in traffic pattern, so at low altitude. Even if he was in hypoxia when he started to descend for the approach, his condition should improve over time while he's doing those patterns at 800ft

@user-uj4er1xp3f 7 месяцев назад

9:35 I almost expected her to say just continue heading northbound and keep going...great professionalism and patience displayed here. As a student, I had some less understanding controllers from time to time.

@DanielFCutter 6 месяцев назад

Oh. It’s dark. Thats some useful information right there for us viewers. But you got us to watch the whole vid!

@zebra2346 4 месяца назад

Holy cow! I'm exhausted just watching this debacle!

@russell-di8js 10 часов назад

Annoying AF agreed!!

@jameswikstrom4174 Год назад

If I was a passenger in the Citation jet, I would have been a little nervous that the pilot was not going to be able to land the aircraft safely after all the missed approaches. The tower controller has the patience of a SAINT! She deserves all the credit in averting a potentially disastrous situation!

@Hygelac1000 11 месяцев назад

Yeah I'd be lighting it if I had it

@Politicallynot 10 месяцев назад

Or throwing up!!!

@NetCerpher 8 месяцев назад

True 4 Shur. NLV has a distraction as big as the LV strip! 1.lights are a major one. 2. Then there are the passengers! I suggest PIC is half hearing the tower and half hearing excited party peeps on the other side. Recipe for loss of awareness and more. I was here trying to will the plane to land east>west and to order shades down until on the ground

@JiveDadson 8 месяцев назад

Maybe that was the passenger.

@57Jimmy 6 месяцев назад

I’ld be tempted to bail out even without a chute and take my chances!😳

@michaeltorbay6608 Год назад

Controller deserves a medal. Despite this person appearing to be tremendously incompetent (not sure if actually the case, but that's what it looks like) she kept calm. Without her guidance and patience, this could easily have become a dangerous situation for the souls on-board that aircraft.

@n1vg 5 месяцев назад

Sometimes you get rattled and one mistake leads to another. Aside from not calling out the second missed approach this guy seemed to be keeping up with the radio and not having a stroke or anything. The controller really does deserve credit for doing everything she could to get him sorted out without piling on the stress. That one controller in Hawaii we see occasionally would have torn this guy to pieces.

@zakelwe 4 месяца назад

At least the pilot did not feel pressured to get it down and kept working at it. Probably better than getting impatient. I would not want to be a passenger on that plane having said that.

@mikefreauf6192 Месяц назад

Good Lord, this ATC needs a huge raise. What a lesson of patience with a pilot that is clearly not as experienced with night instrument landings. Thanks for keeping us safe miss! :)

@tcthedream Месяц назад

Watching that gave me ANXIETY. Cudos to that controller for staying calm!

@nathanleon2895 Год назад

I hate to admit this, but I did something similar at an unfamiliar airport. I had a 172 at max weight landing on a warm day at a runway elevation of 3000 feet and every approach was so fast I could not get it on the ground soon enough to stop in time. About the 4th time around my friend and fellow pilot looked at my flaps and asked, what are the flaps set at? I said 30. He said look at them. They were not down. I wiggled the switch and they went down. That made the difference. Lesson learned.

@cuprum166 Год назад

I don't think anyone should fly alone, maybe it doesn't sound practical, but we need a competent 1st officer for when that emergency arrives.

@tomikun8057 Год назад

@@cuprum166 All airplanes have 2 pilots wdym

@kaptainkaos1202 Год назад

@@tomikun8057 they might have seats for 2 but not always 2 pilots. I know because a do research flights and often it’s just the pilot, myself and equipment operator in the back seat.

@mdhsabh Год назад

@@tomikun8057 Not so.

@tomikun8057 Год назад

@@kaptainkaos1202 Huh. I thought it was a safety thing that every plane fly with two pilots always

@HoltAircraft Год назад

If I was the controller I would have had the police meet him on the ramp to breathalyse him

@zealousideal 8 месяцев назад

Exactly my thoughts. Something ain’t right.

@kevinmoffatt 7 месяцев назад

If I was the ATC I wouldn't have been anywhere near the field when he landed.

@thedarkestkinghtstar 5 месяцев назад

How about medical first? If he has a history of landing perfectly fine and suddenly has issues, I'd be worried about a medical emergency. Two birds with one stone; they's still be able to tell if it was alcohol but if it was a medical emergency time is precious.

@jguenther3049 4 месяца назад

@@kevinmoffatt From the looks of this, there was a good chance that the plane wouldn't have been anywhere near the field when he landed.

@debbieellett9093 4 месяца назад

I thought the same thing.

@nick39 5 месяцев назад

That controller deserves an award for “Patience of The Year”! I’ve been yelled at for much less’😂😂😂

@DrummerJacob 3 дня назад

really...i can hear the annoyance in her every word. shes just being subtle about it, but its definitely apparent in every word she says.

@user-oy9zz4wz1l Месяц назад

That flight path line looks like something a hyperactive kid with an Etch-A-Sketch would draw.

@barrygunning4424 Год назад

As a retired USAF air traffic controller I have to commend the controller working the aircraft. She did an excellent job trying to aid this pilot. MY guess is the pilot was having great difficulty keeping the runways/airport in sight due to the light pollution from the surrounding urban area. I"m not sure of his altitude during this, I would expect maybe 1000' AGL for the VFR pattern which would make it even more difficult to keep the airport/runways in sight.

@TormodSteinsholt Год назад

Sounds reasonable except even when not on approach he fails to follow headings, he calls back turns that he doesn't make etc.

@davidt8087 Год назад

I'm still a ppl but don't those small citations travel like at 120+ knots and land at around 120-130knots? How do you keep a tight traffic pattern in a jet? And why did he fly visual anyway if he could have just done IFR ils or gps? It's so weird

@Shardith 8 месяцев назад

Yep I would buy that controller a drink for keeping her cool and being extremely professional and helpful

@a10pilot69 7 месяцев назад

Light pollution my behind. He doesn't know how to fly a kite, let alone a corp jet

@scrimmo 7 месяцев назад

Why couldn’t he see the runway? 🥃 🥃 🥃 Lol

@androgeny 9 месяцев назад

The fact that he actually proceeded down final, with the gear down, touched down, and brought the citation to a full stop means he can fly the airplane. The only explanation for what you showed was complete pilot disorientation when he arrived. And I am amazed than anyone in a jet, unfamiliar with the area, would arrive in Las Vegas on anything but an IFR approach. But he did! And at night. With a sea of lights, and two airports near each other, and no indication he actually knew where he was in relation to whatever airport he was looking for. He was flying too fast, as in his point of view he has no clue that he is near a runway and a final approach. BUT with GPS and the Nav aids we have now, how he got that disoriented is hard to understand. If he had adequate fuel, all he needed to do is fly out of the city, get an IFR plan approved to fly back and land, put that into his autopilot, and sit back and let the airplane do the work. Then sell his Citation, and stick to a car.

@jguenther3049 4 месяца назад

Stick to a car? I'd prefer he walk.

@billeldon 4 месяца назад

Nope. Sell the car too and buy a lifetime Greyhound pass. I don’t want this guy on the highway with me.

@larryroyovitz7829 3 месяца назад

Golf cart only.

@larryslone65 2 месяца назад

Yes, spatially disoriented. Under those conditions very easy for normal procedures to fly out the window.

@oohkumar Месяц назад

Walking sticks

@kevins5011 6 месяцев назад

This is actually scary, i'm sure this was creating a lot of stress for the controller as she's probably be side herself with frustration, bewilderment, perplexed, consternation and fear of who she is dealing with here

@robertdavis6708 4 месяца назад

I was worrying the pilot was going to run out of fuel. Man that is a complex machine to be making those mistakes. Kudos to the ATC. She should get a raise for putting up with that pilot.

@dshack4689 8 месяцев назад

I liked that the controller didn't overload this pilot and was extremely supportive. I really liked that she volunteered that 30R was much shorter instead of assuming the pilot should know (as the pilot is not knowing a number of things at present). I like the theory of him thinking 30R but actually sighting 25. And while lighting can be a problem, I think its the speed and proximity to the airport that amplifies the volume of visual information you're trying to process. Thank goodness no crash...!

@Jet-Pack 11 месяцев назад

I am pretty sure the pilot mistook runway 25 for 31L That is why he turned onto "base" whilst crossing the approach path of 31L and overshot it. And it also explains the desire to do a right turn on base for 25 to extend the final approach. If you follow his actions with this in mind it makes a lot more sense.

@embie5119 9 месяцев назад

I think you're absolutely right. I rewatched it and his call to "turn right to line up" only makes sense if he were trying to turn right to a downwind for 25. Great observation

@lourocha 7 месяцев назад

I thought the same

@Wolfenkuni 6 месяцев назад

Maybe his heading indicator drifted and he didn't notice. That's why he doesn't fly parallel to the runway and then mistook runways.....

@Jet-Pack 6 месяцев назад

@@WolfenkuniThat is a good explanation, could have been the reason, yes.

@eriklarson9137 4 месяца назад

I am pretty sure if you could understand what he was thinking you should never pilot an aircraft.

@barbaraanneneale3674 4 месяца назад

This is a great channel. I know nothing about flying, But you humanize these stories so effectively that it's captivating. You really bring These people to life.

@colinreece3452 5 месяцев назад

I was waiting for her to say, "Would you be happier landing on the freeway, we can halt the traffic till you land?" Seriously he didn't sound drunk but I was wondering if he had taken something, was there a co-pliot flying and the captain was just using the radio?

@bills48321 7 месяцев назад

He needs the eighty year old woman non-pilot who landed a twin with one engine out in another amazing Pilot Debrief video.

@shaymiah 5 месяцев назад

Where can I see this video?

@bills48321 4 месяца назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7QifqB_vIMM.html@@shaymiah

@eriklarson9137 4 месяца назад

@@shaymiah First connect to the Internet. Then use this search engine called Google. The rest is magic.

@billeldon 4 месяца назад

@@shaymiah ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7QifqB_vIMM.htmlsi=YBm3383fiR4CNfb5

@caseywinehouse777 3 месяца назад

Let’s go Helen! Rest easy, queen

@sherw7635 Год назад

The controller should be flying the plane... She's so polite and patient.. I'd be losing it.

@virginiaviola5097 Год назад

It’s a good thing that you aren’t a controller then. Because she is just doing her job. There’s no place for people who lose it or use non-standard comms in ATC. To lose it is unprofessional and entirely unhelpful. Some air traffic controllers I’ve heard in the US would have crashed that plane, like the crash at Hobby that killed three people…there’d have been endless strings of words and directions and other useless comms or being sworn at.. this controller got it right. That pilot is working his ass off up there, you can hear the stress in his voice and the short read back.. and she just gave him directions and speed calls, and staying calm, her calm voice helped a very stressed pilot stay focussed too… and unlike far too many other instances, this story has a happy ending and that controller has earned her raise! ❤

@kimberlywentworth9160 Год назад

@@virginiaviola5097 I agree, there is no reason to get upset. This is aviation and it takes a professional. We do not need any more drama up in the air. She is a fantastic controller. The idea is to help get the aircraft to land safely. Then worry about it after landing.

@Garth_T Год назад

Imagine the controller had been Kennedy Steve.

@sludge8506 10 месяцев назад

@@Garth_T Steve worked at jfk. I think he would have realized the situation. Or maybe not. 🤪

@terryhill4100 7 месяцев назад

yea when that plane was heading north,the should have told him to continue that heading, and wished a ,good day

@rocroc 4 месяца назад

So, what the hell is the reason. I spent 18 minutes watching the video and am left to my own conjecture to come up with an answer. That's why I watch a debriefing!

@goodtoGoNow1956 2 месяца назад

yeah. This sucks because there is no answer.

@phj223 2 месяца назад

It was dark outside and the runway doesn't have an approach lighting system. Hoover mentioned this towards the end, but kinda glosses over it. The pilot kept losing sight of the runway.

@mebeasensei 2 месяца назад

RU-vid strikes again - 1) Misleading, spammy shocking baiting title, 2) "Wait until the end" bait message, 3) "let me know in the comments", (as if your opinion means anything) elicitation, 4) mixing tones of social conscience and responsibility, 5) Good graphics...and ultimately, no answer.

@RobinMohr-be2dk 2 месяца назад

Have to agree. Hoover, you have tendency to play the mystery game with some of these debriefs. That is not why I watch your vids. I don’t want any more suspense worked into the event being described than the event itself. You do a good job, but please keep it real

@medicchester Месяц назад

Drug test!

@andiscott2002 27 дней назад

I'm not a pilot but I've watched quite a few of Pilot Debrief videos. This is one of the most frustrating. I cannot understand what the pilot was thinking.

@smakfu1375 9 месяцев назад

The very first thing I was thinking is if you’re in a fancy citation, you probably (I’d hope) have an instrument rating, so just request vectors for the ILS approach, set the localizer frequency, and have yourself an easy, low-stress approach. Even if you’re flying VFR, don’t just wing it, especially in a plane like that. Before you head to an unfamiliar airport, setup nav guidance, have the charts on hand (it’s really easy with today’s fancy Garmin’s and software on a tablet) and have ability to setup a CANPA, knowing where the important things are (FAF, for example). Sure, you might be able to eyeball it, but if things get challenging, a little prep significantly reduces workload and anxiety. And that controller demonstrated unmatched patience and professionalism.

@criqdekuyper9259 4 месяца назад

Vectors would not likely have helped. He did not once maintain a heading issued…

@charlesmoore1762 Год назад

Dangerous transmission by GTT: “We’re cleared for 30 Left, right?” The ever-patient ATC properly responds 30 Left -affirmative. She’ll be so glad to get this guy on the ground! Thank goodness there was no other traffic in the pattern!

@StefunnyStrange Месяц назад

Was anybody else getting anxiety the more red lines that were added to the map as the “pilot” kept overshooting it? Christ. That ATC woman is a saint because this would’ve driven me mad.

@AndySalinger33 4 месяца назад

Hey Pilot D., I just wanted to say thanks for your hard work. Your presentations are so professional, and your incredible expertise is really appreciated; as well as your consistent respect to the families of the victims, when applicable. I’m not a pilot, nor did I think I had that much interest in the confusing (to a fool such as I) terminology. But after just a couple weeks of watching intently, I’ve gotta say, I’m hooked. Really great content you give us. Much obliged. I’ve already gotten most of my extended family to sub. Happy flying

@donelson52 9 месяцев назад

Wow. What patience. She deserves a medal!

@hardware1197 Год назад

I heard this occur live. What is not in the audio is prior to this approach this pilot descended directly over Nellis AFB without permission from Nellis control at 5500 while the Israeli Air Force was launching for Red Flag familiarization flights for the exercise the week after. It was wild. All I could say after is that this is what it sounds like when a guy flys with a Cartel member pointing a gun at his head......

@JimAllen-Persona Год назад

I was going to suggest sending him up to Nellis and letting the military send up an F16 he could follow in and once he’s on the deck chew his ass out.

@randybaumery5090 Год назад

That's chilling to ponder.

@zealousideal 8 месяцев назад

Scary and sad. Can’t believe this.

@timblack33 8 месяцев назад

That’s what I was thinking. Cartel activity or too much tequila.

@Yosetime 6 месяцев назад

@@zealousideal Surely just because it's written here as a theory you wouldn't just jump on board that explanation and believe it? It's a theory. An unproven one.

@grantheflin9962 3 месяца назад

I completely lost it when the Griswold clip played 😂😂

@NorwayT 5 месяцев назад

Hilarious clips added, Pilot Debrief! 🤣 👍 This was PAINFUL to watch. And give that ATC Lady some Flowers and a BIG Box of Chocolates! Talk about patience…!!!

@howardhall5191 7 месяцев назад

WOW, Tower should have called the FAA and gotten this pilot ramp checked. That tower operator was being beyond reasonable in assisting this guy. Maybe a follow up conversation with the authorities for where the aircraft was registered. I really don't know what a typical approach speed for a Citation would be, but I'm gassing not much faster than 130 or so. That controller deserves a pay raise!

@redbaron6805 5 месяцев назад

As noted at the end, the flight was at night, for a poorly lit runway, in a sea of Las Vegas lights, at an unfamiliar airport. Which is why the controller was so patient. I bet she has seen this many times before....

@eriklarson9137 4 месяца назад

@@redbaron6805 "for a poorly lit runway, in a sea of Las Vegas lights" So, just like EVERY OTHER BIG CITY - look for the black spot. That's the airport.

@redbaron6805 4 месяца назад

@@eriklarson9137 Except, if you flew actual airplanes, at night, you would know that simply isn't the case. Not all airports are the same, and airports that are surrounded by large brightly lit buildings are going to be harder to see at night than airports that have a regular city scape around it. Some are much harder to fly into than others, especially one's with tall buildings around them.

@THELIFEOFPRICE Год назад

Man that controller is a saint for sure. I flew out of that airport the other day with combat ace in an extra 300 and the traffic was bananas. If he would have came in during that time it could have been disastrous for sure. It makes me worry that hes even able to fly that complex of a plane and be so .... what seems like OUT OF CONTROL ... like out of touch with everything. But glad he finally landed safely for sure. I can only imagine what his passengers were thinking (if there were any)

@pauledwards1157 Год назад

That’s a fun experience with Combat Ace! How many people can say they’ve flown loops and rolls in a plane…without a pilot’s license?

@johnframe6393 2 месяца назад

Great controller keeping patient and talking him down. Scary, that last big northbound loop went over my house. Lol

@chrisw4562 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing. I am surprised that the pilot did not get a number to call, unless this happens all the time at that airport.

@MsJubjubbird Месяц назад

Not a pilot deviation from instruction.

@robrobets7813 Месяц назад

@@MsJubjubbird Well maybe regulation needs to change. That was completely unnecessary and unsafe tying up an ATC for that long over nothing. I could understand if there was Mechanical failure issue or severe weather, but on a clear night and while piloting a perfectly functioning aircraft, there's no reason to be circling like that. A safety briefing with that pilot should have been a must, to establish whether this situation was lack of pilot training, mechanical or better lighting/signal features needed at the airport. Thank goodness no other traffic was in the area and especially no other TRUE air emergency was taking place.

@MsJubjubbird 29 дней назад

@@robrobets7813 they don't want to deter people from asking for help though. Perhaps the ATC logged it as an incident for the regulators to follow. Maybe something had suddenly happened in his personal life and he was not focusing.

@robrobets7813 29 дней назад

@@MsJubjubbird This wasn't just a regular missed approach by any means, it is the most absurd landing I've ever heard of that didn't involve; injured or disoriented pilot, landing gear or some other type of mechanical malfunction, severe weather or unruly passengers/flight staff. This was a perfectly fine aircraft in near perfect weather. And if this pilot was having medical or emotional issues, he most certainly needed to be removed from flying until those issue were cleared by a medical professional. How is it safe to ignore these issues and have this pilot flying again, without taking precautions? The more I think over this the more I think the ATC was extremely negligent in not having him "call a number" immediately after landing. This landing needed to be debriefed extensively before this pilot flew again.

@janvaneck4088 Год назад

My intuitive reaction is that the pilot is tired. Possibly had an early start, been "up and awake" all day, other flight segments, now coming into an unfamiliar airport without approach lights, at night, tired, and not a fluent English speaker. Also apparently operating single-pilot. He got "behind the airplane" because he was tired, had trouble trying to think ahead of the plane. Hey, it happens.

@Msunuwakho Год назад

I think it was a approach at night, and knowing how many lights there are in Lasvegas I wouldnt be surprised if that confused him even more

@shanelodge391 Год назад

Not acceptable. People’s lives are at risk from this incompetent pilot.

@grayrabbit2211 10 месяцев назад

How tired do you have to be to not be able to hold a heading? At the very least use the damn autopilot for headings if you're not doing it yourself.

@747-pilot 8 месяцев назад

He is not tired. He is *DOWNRIGHT INCOMPETENT!* Please tell it like it is! 🙄 If he's "tired" to do some of the most basic maneuvers of flying, he should not be flying an airplane! Some of the mistakes he made, like being able to hold a heading, and fly at an appropriate airspeed, are frankly, shocking! Even a student pilot should be able to perform these within a reasonable tolerance!

@olivierb9716 7 месяцев назад

@@747-pilot do you know was is tired???

@Ridingthewaves305 9 месяцев назад

This is terrifying, I really hope this was deeply investigated

@antonsmith7235 5 месяцев назад

Yes and this guys pilot license revoked and him sent to learn the english language, might as well pull his auto license as well because he obviously can't see anyway

@MsJubjubbird Месяц назад

I wonder if he guy some bad news and was hugely distracted.

@PuddingXXL 2 месяца назад

11:30 I love the little mix of a sigh and laugh when she allows herself a little joke. Gold ATC!

@markbrenner7804 4 месяца назад

What a terrific job by the controller. The patience and the calmness displayed was amazingly professional and something to behold. If she’s not given a pay rise after this there’s something wrong with the world❤️

@spiller212 Год назад

Did this incident get reported? I mean this guy is an accident waiting to happen. I wouldn’t wanna share the same airspace with him, imagine being a passenger…

@pilot-debrief Год назад

It's odd that all of the other flights in this aircraft appear normal without incident. However, he flew back to Monterrey after this and the plane hasn't flown since then.

@DannyReed Год назад

@@pilot-debrief sus

@brianmanthey562 Год назад

Did he get line checked. Sounds like he got licensed in banana Republic flying coke on dirt runways and no controlled airspace

@Boss_Tanaka Год назад

Good thing he had plenty of gas left

@vadermike7772 Год назад

In fairness to him, he didn't really do anything dangerous, he was definitely lost and unsure of his position relative to the airport. So he is not an accident waiting to happen. You may have gotten lost at some point while driving your car. It does not necessarily mean you are a bad driver. Mind you there are a million things the pilot could have done better, but he did not fly the aircraft in a dangerous manner,

@markm.9252 10 месяцев назад

He really needed a 10 mile final or an instrument approach-and-landing. But that controller was phenomenal, she really does have the patience of a saint.

@HikingWithCooper 2 месяца назад

This is a fun channel. I don't fly (up front or in the back) but it's entertaining and educational none the less.

@chickstar69duplicity35 4 месяца назад

The most frustrating thing I have ever watched! 😢 Imagine being a passenger & being aware of this!

@machone1672 Год назад

I have never seen anything like this before. This is really incredibly scary stuff!

@GDViperWorks 10 месяцев назад

A few years ago, one of my companies check airman told this story. He used to instruct Mexican pilots for Mexicana Airlines. After seeing too many pilots who didn't have even basic knowledge one would expect for their stated level of experience; further research into their certificates indicated many of them were counterfeit and logbooks were pencil whipped.

@fahadfaisal7855 8 месяцев назад

Same with Brazilian, rest of South American, and Caribbean pilots...also, Eastern Europe...Africa, and Caribbean pilots: How about an Indian female pilot showing B747 Type on her application in four years before her IFR endorsement? I can go on...and on...and on. So many of those Brazilian pilots are now flying for jetBlue and Breeze...connect the dots!

@jesse00pno 8 месяцев назад

@@fahadfaisal7855Wow. Just… Wow. Why I always fly Legacy.

@dextermorgan1 6 месяцев назад

No! Not in Mexico! 😂

@philgray1023 5 месяцев назад

@@fahadfaisal7855Very similar experience hiring in the IT industry. I specifically did the analysis of the years of experience. People with 7 years experience in one technology would have 3 years of another technology, and 2 years of system design, all fitted in from the age of 15! No single nationality was immune from this. The best guys just simply knew their stuff and how to add up. Unfortunately some managers knew so little about the work that they would be sucked in.

@nicholaskamanja9417 5 месяцев назад

Africa? The whole continent?

@TheGrandStrander Месяц назад

Started binging on these 2 days ago here/there after listening to final words, etc. in crashes. Don't know a damn thing about being a pilot, and have only flown a couple of times in 6 decades, but you make the videos interesting and watchable with the explanations AND the graphics. I've learned some things in the last two days. Later.

@HoosierDaddy_ 6 месяцев назад

The "actual footage" was a nice touch, lol. I'd imagine landing in Las Vegas at night would be a nightmare.

@Airships Год назад

Does it tell us anything that the pilot thought landing on 30R would somehow be different from landing on 30L? If you can line up for one, you can line up for the other (and you might as well take the longer one). Does his otherwise inexplicable request to try 30R indicate something that might shed light on the pilot's problem?

@ethanlewis1453 6 месяцев назад

He was probably lying about being able to see the runway well enough because of the vegas lights and was hoping to see 30R better than 30L.

@eriklarson9137 4 месяца назад

@@ethanlewis1453 Probably not.

@bongcrosby5598 2 месяца назад

The controller was the one who suggested 30R because he kept overshooting.

@RWBHere 8 месяцев назад

Pilot fatigue? Lack of night jaunting experience at an unfamiliar airfield? I'd love to hear what happened after that incident.

@deeffourjay5632 4 месяца назад

Pilot was not communicating the problem or his (mis)actions. Pull his license.

@MIchaelArlowe 2 месяца назад

Helmet fire, it seems like.

@garypudup2109 6 месяцев назад

I was doing a VFR night landing recently and lost the runway in the city lights. On downwind I told the tower I no longer had the airport and asked for vectors. He gave me vectors lining me up to final and that was all I needed. Kind of like a VFR instrument approach (?)

@davidbaldwin1591 6 месяцев назад

Congratulations on a channel that is rocketing up in subs. Sometimes that takes years.

@greggismyname Год назад

I'm not sure what he was smokin' but I'm 3 miles directly west of KVGT (NLV) in the flight path... had I been aware of this I would have been running quite fast to get out of here. My gosh!

@jeremyhill2243 Год назад

That makes sense, he was not used to landing there at night and he was confused by the sea of lights that is Las Vegas. I’m surprise he didn’t do an instrument approach into that airport.

@joedicello7001 9 месяцев назад

KVGT is in the NW part of town and I fly out of this airport. The lights in that part of town are no different than any other city. The strip has zero to do with this airport.

@a10pilot69 7 месяцев назад

guy was an idiot. Needs to lose his ticket

@keitasalmon6485 7 месяцев назад

No, VGT is pretty much by the desert and the runway is obvious day or night. LAS at night is a VERY noticeable dark spot in the sea of lights and even more obvious at night, his hypothesis is completely misguided.

@prosfilaes 7 месяцев назад

Basically everything you see on screen there is residential or normal stores and shops; there's a Lowe's just north of the airport, and used to be a K-Mart just to the northwest. To the northeast there's warehouses and other stuff that's less well lit than residential. This is not the Strip.

@Redridge07 7 месяцев назад

@jeremy You are exactly correct ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-inv8miz86Qs.htmlsi=J0Sq-VecVWxx6rsw

@user-py4lq5wu8h 2 месяца назад

I didn't realize how much chaos and close calls there are going on in the skies since watching your reports, scary!!!

@gavmansworkshop5624 Месяц назад

Kept having to stop and wind back, I just kept laughing way too hard and each time I was finally composed again, I'd already missed the next hilarious moment 😂😂😂

@bbbb98765 Год назад

This was soooo hard to watch. Like when you see someone hammering a nail with a wrench

@pilot-debrief Год назад

😝 I should have included a warning that this would require extreme patience to watch.

@SKYGUY1 Год назад

OR LIKE HAMMERING A WRENCH W/ A NAIL!

@jeremey2072 Год назад

Or unscrewing a screw with a butter knife 😂

@jordanrobinson4845 Год назад

I had a really hard time finding this airport at night. Extremely hard to spot in a sea of lights.

@willissutherland8516 Год назад

Absolutely Jordan

@davidwhite8633 Год назад

Needs REIL lights at a minimum .

@eriklarson9137 4 месяца назад

How is that even a little related? If the pilot was having trouble finding the airport, I wonder what they should have done? Imagine making any excuses for this goof. Yikes. Also, never be a pilot please. Thanks.

@Indigenous51 5 месяцев назад

Jeez. I was getting giddy watching the tracking. I’m surprised he didn’t run out of gas .

@schmarrenheimer80 5 месяцев назад

Fantastic use of footage from "Airplane", thank you, had a good laugh :)

@stephenembrey883 Год назад

I taught SAPT students in the USAF. This is totally not surprising.

@kathleenmckenna8578 Год назад

The pilot is lucky this isn’t a busy airport otherwise; outcome could of been different. That would be frustrating with a pilot confused and having to circle ten times. Hopefully the airport discusses with the pilot what happened and discuss for future landings.

@lisatowe778 2 месяца назад

Amazing controller, I didn’t realize until I began watching your videos how helpful they really are. This lady was exactly what he needed. I’ve been really impressed with the aviation community watching your videos, they really jump in and help people in trouble. If this guy was flying at night that can be tougher, however, having worked a lot of decades with a lot of different cultures, it’s possible he didn’t want to say he wasn’t seeing the runway. A macho thing. Has he said that much earlier it would have been helpful to her. If you can’t see it then all the instructions in the world won’t help, in my opinion. But then I don’t fly and I’m thinking will never get in a plane again after watching these videos. My specialty is healthcare and so I avoid doctors, medications, and surgeries because I’m well aware how much can go wrong and how bad some doctors are.

@redhelmet8 5 месяцев назад

Loved the controller's patience. I like the idea of sending him on the ILS but I was also hoping that she would put him on an extended final. Maybe limitations with Las Vegas being to the South but an extended final with a wide base would have given plenty of time for corrections.

@jordanepstein1499 Год назад

I have flown a plane for a Mexican National and for a time I had a Mexican copilot. From my experience there is a lot of pencil whipping of Log Books going on down south. The scary part is there are two pilots in that plane and that is the best they can do.

@R2Bl3nd 10 месяцев назад

That was the exact reason for the 2008 Learjet crash in Mexico City. Both pilots had fabricated paperwork and didn't actually have the right credentials or experience. Such practices are rampant in some countries that have less oversight and more corruption apparently. So that could be a factor for sure if this pilot comes from that kind of culture.

@mytech6779 10 месяцев назад

@@R2Bl3nd And now with the problems created by the ATP SIC legislation["1500h rule"], US airlines are code shareing more and more of their international legs to airlines from these questionable countries where they not oly don't require an SIC to have an ATP but the basic training is not up to standard. (ie Lionair was caught falsifying maintenance logs of their max crash.)

@747-pilot 8 месяцев назад

You hit the nail on its head! This goes on in many 3rd world countries actually! That is why I have no respect for those pilots at all. I'm of *_INDIAN ORIGIN_* myself. So I know a thing or two, about how things work in those places! There was a recent fatal Pakistan Airlines A320 crash (belly up landing because they forgot to put the gear down, scraped the engines on the runway, then tried to do an unsuccessful go around). After that it was found that over 50% of the pilots working for the airline had fake licenses and other fake credentials, among other things!

@Yosetime 6 месяцев назад

He sounded Asian to me.

@Yosetime 6 месяцев назад

@@747-pilotI believe you are right there. And it's not just aviation where this happens. I live in Canada. A couple years ago a whole busload of teenage hockey players were t-boned by a semi-truck in Saskatchewan. The whole country mourned. Turns out that the driver of that semi-truck was licensed and trained by a company who falsified records. There were a whole lot of poorly trained heavy haulers of Indian nationality who were on the roads with thousands of pounds of death behind the wheel. It uncovered a great deal of this going on across the country. They'd shut some down and they'd regroup and open up another company under a new name. It's freaking scary. But it's a culture born of desperation from their home country. I'm just angry that they brought that attitude and stuck it right in the middle of a country who does not put up with that crap. We expect more and it's up to our own authorities to monitor these industries that operate at sub-standard levels. The trucking industry is such a vital part of every countries' infrastructure. Not something to slag on.

@mattanderson3067 9 месяцев назад

Hoover, the real world educational value of your video’s are priceless. I think every flight school/ Academy should be using your videos as educational tools. Pilots and future pilots are a lot less likely to allow complacency to creep in after training on your videos. Outstanding stuff, Sir and thank you!

@user-ee1fn4vt8b Месяц назад

"We're 30L, right?" If I'm the ATC, my forehead just hit the desk lol. Good on them for confirming, I guess.

@MarieJesne Месяц назад

The controller deserves the praise. I don't know what was going on with this pilot but I'm glad he listened to ATC, didnt rush or do anything reckless (bare minimum for a pilot, but so many accidents we see it lacking). Always good when everyone lands safely even if it took extra effort to get there. Hopefully the pilot learned a valuable lesson from this and has worked to improve since.

@cantzonfoster1067 9 месяцев назад

I also appreciate the controller’s calm demeanor. When stress is high, it gets so much worse when the controller is audibly irate. She did a great job helping this guy get it together! Pilot must have been situationally disoriented and and overwhelmed with work load. I’m guessing he was new to plane. Definitely not ready to be PIC. Hopefully they had an additional conversation once he was safely on the ground.

@eastender74 5 месяцев назад

The Airplane ✈️ movie reference spot on! 😂 Stryker Stryker Stryker 🤣

@peterdiotte3327 4 месяца назад

Love your analysis - helps me learn. Thank you. BTW - I don't think adding movie clips is a plus.

@carlwilliams6977 8 месяцев назад

The thought of what might have occurred had there been other traffic is terrifying! His flight path looks like my Etcha-Scetch when I was 4 (if you're under 50, nevermind)!

@milo9805 2 месяца назад

Unless you're a baby most people know what an etch a sketch is

@albertjr7928 2 месяца назад

@@milo9805 i used to smuggle cocaine into spain hidden in etch a sketches

@frankbyte Год назад

The base turn seems quite short for me. As you said I think it may be better to have sent him to a longer downwind before turning for final. It could have been some kind of disorientation in his head perhaps due to workload/stress…but at the same time he should have a map with his GPS position onboard. So it‘s quite surprising. I can imagine that during the night it can be more difficult to evaluate the distance to the RWY. I was also a bit surprised that he didn‘t say anything to the tower about which difficulties he had during all these attempts…he almost was reading back the instructions again and again like everything was fine for him.

@gk1771 9 месяцев назад

A longer downwind could interfere with 19 L/R on KLAS if they were active. This pilot does have issues. Probably undertrained and less-experienced in other than VFR landings, add piss-poor planning and lack of situational awareness.

@DJ99777 5 месяцев назад

Excellent blog Hooper. This is a probably pilot deviation.

@swedishpsychopath8795 11 дней назад

At the ATC tower I work at here in Sweden we are doing the opposite. We are trying to keep the planes up as long as possible as a "running joke". Every month the controller with the longest "uptime" gets a reward sponsored by our local fuel provider. The controller with the angriest pilot also gets a reward.

@TheAirplaneDriver Год назад

Airports at night can be really tough to find…but this guy really took that to a whole new level. Probably would have been best to give him vectors to line up on an 3+ mile extended final or vectors for the ILS. Her attempt to help was great, but I don’t think she should have been giving him pattern instructions. He repeatedly was too close in to make a base and final turn all while trying to find the runway and get established. But, it was all on him. He should have asked for vectors to the IAF for the ILS approach.

@a10pilot69 7 месяцев назад

Guy was an idiot. No help in the world would've help this guy land.

@a10pilot69 7 месяцев назад

I'm sure he was but most likely a foreign pilot so has to go to that country FAA.

@ticenits1926 7 месяцев назад

Not to mention all of his ridiculous missed approaches and wandering off miles into empty airspace for no reason. This pilot was either completely sloshed or dyslexic

@redbaron6805 5 месяцев назад

@@ticenits1926 Or just flying night VFR into a poorly lit and unfamiliar airport, at night, in a sea of lights in Las Vegas. I always find it comical how quickly people judge, as I somehow doubt strapping you into the left seat of this Citation at night, your efforts would have been any more impressive...

@ticenits1926 5 месяцев назад

@@redbaron6805 you might get sympathy as a PPL in your Cessna who had to refuel prematurely and lost track of time, but there is no excuse for "unfamiliar VFR" for a corporate jet pilot. Either know your shit or retire and go fly a barnstormer on the weekends.

@rickpinelli1586 Год назад

Just because that plane had two successful flights the day before does not mean this pilot was flying it.

@pilot-debrief Год назад

True...however the plane hasn't flown since the flight after this one...maybe he got fired?!?

@irisfields1659 Год назад

Heavens I would take a bus than fly with this duunkoff😂😢😮😅

@jimw8615 Год назад

Tis a single pilot aircraft rite?

@ghost307 10 месяцев назад

@@jimw8615 Nope, so it is very concerning that the right seat didn't take over. Apparently, this loon is the more qualified one.

@ckeilah 10 месяцев назад

I see many flights going back to 2023-05-20@@pilot-debrief

@Nick-rl1jc 15 дней назад

The "actual footage" from Airplane nearly killed me!! lol

@jacquesparadis6756 12 дней назад

Jack here CFI. On night landings in unfamiliar airports, runway and airport lighting may blend in with city lighting making the airport environment hard to decipher. The pilot could have selected runway extensions on his PFD or MFD to perform a GPS assisted oncourse interception and select VFR approach to help for the letdown. This would have provided a straight in approach to the proper runway. Goes to say that planning and knowing your aircraft systems is paramount. Thanks for your great posts.

@JoelSanchezz Год назад

This controller is the definition of patience and understanding 😊

@markbatarina4512 Год назад

That controller has the patience of a saint.

@cruisingal2 5 месяцев назад

This was flat out scary to me. Yes, you are probably right about after sundowns. All those Vegas lights everywhere, ..... It's things like this that can get other people killed and not just yourself and your passengers.

@sputzelein 4 месяца назад

I think we are talking about sundowners, that makes at least some sense.

@martykroenecke4273 6 месяцев назад

That controller was awesome! The pilot needs to go back for more training, i wonder if he had someone in the right seat, if so they were either passed out or scared speechless!

@QBziZ Год назад

If there is an ILS, it’s always a good idea to tune the radios and set the runway heading on one of your instruments, HSI, OBS,… iPad/Foreflight, heading bug,… whatever you have, even if visual. If you fly a good pattern the instruments will confirm that and in case of go-around, you can very easily fly your crosswind. Anything to increase your situational awareness. It does seem like he has problems identifying the runway. Vegas in darkness or dusk/dawn is a sea of light I imagine.

@shanelodge391 Год назад

Absolutely

@stevedaniels3064 Год назад

It's a requirement under 121 rules...the operator is required to use all available nav aids. So even while doing a visual app...we have to tune in the ILS or VOR/GPS and get an Ident and use it.

@GusHeck 9 месяцев назад

@@stevedaniels3064 According to the presenter there were aids for 12 but apparently not for 30. Not all aids are available in all directions at all airports. I'm training at one that has papi's in only 3 out of 4 possible directions (35, 17 and 10 but not 28)

@pbr2805 Год назад

He was too close to the runway on the downwind leg and he did not extend the downwind leg long enough before he turned to base. The problem is that he most likely could not see the R/W at different times and he lost view of it.

@bluesmachine1006 5 месяцев назад

She had the patience of a saint. Definitely deserves a bonus!

@RPG_RicePaddyGod 5 месяцев назад

I just picture the pilot tilting his head back-n-forth every time he spoke. “Thank you, come again”.

@paulwblair 7 месяцев назад

This was quite the ride. I'm glad the pilot was able to land and nobody was hurt. After watching this, for fun I flew the Citation X into North Las Vegas last night in X-Plane 12. The ATC routed me into 30R, and I did have a little trouble spotting the runway amidst all the other lights in the city, but I was able to find it in time and make a stable approach. I will need to file a bug report on the airport as the ATC shouldn't have routed me to such a short runway. As suggested in this video, I should have and could have requested a ILS landing on 12R after initially being vectored to 30R.

@timothyknight2236 Год назад

The reason he keeps missing the approach is that the pilot is paid by the flight hour and his car note is over due.

@willissutherland8516 Год назад

Ha! You bad man Timothy

@irisfields1659 Год назад

Does he really have a pilots license,not very smart I think,controller great at getting him down safe and her patience,I would not fly with him🎉

@malalexander3515 2 месяца назад

Excellent controller. Love the movie Airplane references. It was billed as Flying High here in Australia 🇦🇺.

@MatthewWithTwoTs Месяц назад

Legend has it he still looking for the next airport.

@ivankorth4458 Год назад

Shouldn’t a pilot with this much confusion lose his license or be reported and if so , who would the tower report too ?

@joevignolor4u949 Год назад

To the FAA probably.

@zealousideal 8 месяцев назад

They report similar things anyway. So they may have but being she was so cool maybe not. I would have For sure. Or have someone meet him and debrief him or cops meet him for breathalyzer or something.