it probably wasn't actually the worst tournament in valorant history haha it just makes for a good title well done to Bleed! and I appreciate all the support on the channel from india
Now im curious to see other bad tournaments. the only other one i can think of is the NA challengers LAN (im pretty sure it was challengers. might of been another tournament but im certain that it was part of VCT)that had many problems and pretty big ones such as the OCE teams that were supposed to play in got left in the dark and weren't able to compete
the only successful valorant tournament organizer in india was nodwin gaming others were either delayed by minimum 2 hours(every single day) or filled with dramas like ping issue casting issue
Thank you for covering this for our region - it's undeniably the biggest gift the community could have asked for, cause we have not had a single person collate all of this and make an informative account of all the things that have happened, which the people just let em slide. For someone to put effort into making this video and put it out there just means a lot to the Indian Valorant Community. Thank you, looking forward to more videos! :)
The ammount of toxicity you get to see after VLT lost against Bleed was just wow. come to watchparty of Eupho, VLT's Team Manager. as a moderator it was so hard to keep the chat clean and friendly. on the record we were giving 15+ timeouts/bans every minute. this community will never get better on the basis of "support" seen this enough. lost all hopes. all these kids wanna see is "wins". and will come to roast after a single whiff. not even roast. even abuses.
Ya just like when Global eSports won against VLT and then lost against another foreign team then every vlt fan kids were spamming GE HAVE MADE ALL STRATEGIES FOR VLT ONLY THEY ARE NOTHING AGAINST FOREIGN TEAMS . ONLY VLT CAN WIN AGAINST FOREIGN TEAMS. And then i never saw a single timeout to them 😂. Fact is you guys just want acclamations . Even a single comment/word against VLT you give them timeouts/bans and now crying here that viewers are kids 😂. After all you have to accept the fact that 90% viewers in India are kids . 20+ don't have so much time to spend on seeing a game stream. That's the reason why even small tournaments in India gets 10k+ views live and even big tournaments like vct in foreign barely gets that much view without counting Indian viewers
Never knew there was a huge fan base behind Indian Valorant till today. For a 1 man channel, ur pushing out official Valorant news level content. Love it 👍
W. I was so mad seeing bleed getting all the hate becuz of accusing boom of exploiting a bug. Does this mean that using bugs in tournaments is allowed and supported now lol?
@@glennofr It isn't BLEED's job to officiate rules that are stated explicitly in a rulebook, they won both maps so there was no need to. Regarding the rollback from 7-1, at the end of the day, that map should've been forfeited but BOOM still got to play losing only 2 rounds and lost fair amd square. The TO's should've recognised this bug instantly and gave a warning to BOOM since the group stage already.
@@aburn9891 from what i heard there is no rulebook that penta esport give for the tournament (cmiiw), so I think that's why that bug being used by many team in the group stage, and then bleed just report it when they're losing and spot the bug on observer cam.
Indian Valorant pro scene is pretty much trash from the beginning ngl same matches same winners same toxic fans nothing new to learn get placed last at intl events.
It’s interesting that even someone who doesn’t follow Indian scene as closely as Indian themselves also found same issue. Now someday if you just want to have fun, try looking into PUBG/BGMI issues in Indian gaming community, you will be able to write whole thesis and get PhD out of it 😂
I agree with what you said commend. I used to be a competitive player as well and well things turned out much worse for me but past side what you shared is true and India as a esports area is pretty shit compared to other countries I know this comment is gonna get down vote to hell but truth is truth and India esports scene is shit because 1. People are selected biased of there connections in the scene rather than skill. 2. There is a lot of discrimination with people. And many more that I rather not say. I used to have a friend that was a manager for a esports org and he used to say the working conditions for him were shit and considering my personal experience its true. I’m sorry to say but if this is how esports will go in India it will never be a good and healthy work environment
Skyesports and TEC did an amazing job too. People out here comparing online events (Nodwin) vs a LAN event. TBH no organizers dared to organize a PC LAN event post COVID due to the obvious complexity and the cost involved. These organizers dared to do that and were the first to do it in India in the valo scene. Of course not without faults and delays because of the obvious complexities, but if you watched any of the caster or the players streams they were greatly appreciative about how well they were treated, no less than a true athlete/celebrity. People aren't realizing that this paves way for other organizers to conduct such events and also learn from what went wrong the previous time. Support such initiatives and provide constructive criticism for them to grow instead of being so toxic making anyone lose motivation to even try. I'm sure if both of these orgs conduct another LAN event it'd be much better with the experience that they'd have gained.
W comment. People are quick to jump the hate bandwagon. The stream delay obviously is a big issue, but other than that, I'm sure the players wouldn't have any complaints. Having been to the LAN events by both Skyesports and TEC, I was pretty impressed with their effort given it's their first LAN production.
Nah, its clearly the major fault was on the caster. On air or not, he was purposely being rude to the players. It's not even a matter of whether it is live or not, that attitude in of itself is already a red flag. It doesn't make it any better if he was keeping those words a secret. The Penta's decision was just.
It's a good thing you showed Galaxy Racer tournament although I would've liked it if you discussed it a bit cause oh boy that tournament was a big disaster.
@@ds_clown5296 ngl the stage design looked tacky af. If you watch it again you'll hear the stomps. It feels like a makeshift stage built by cheap plywood. That was so disappointing.
As someone who's casted for over 5 years, we do often talk about the teams we just casted, and talking trash is not rare. Checking to make sure your muted is a major part of caster to production communication.
Thank You for this video. This speaks in detail about the places Indian Esports has to work on to be as good as on the global stage. As a sports management personal, it was very helpful. Feels bad when your country faces such issues but again you guys highlighting them, we shall learn and try our best to fix them. Thank You!
@@dussypestroyer4991its not BLEED's job to report it. Its the organizer's job and abusing a bug banned by riot in a final match, not admitting that they knew it and not accepting the fact that they have to forfeit the match 😂😂 surely boom's manager has some great mentality
Does anyone else think that valorant should do a league system like to ones you see in football (soccer) and depending on where you place will send you to different tournaments like if 1st 2nd 3rd went to champions and 4th and 5th went to masters and 6th 7th went to challengers. Any thoughts?
Gaming in India is super less man, its just evolving. People didn't even know they could make money from playing games just a while ago in India. Its a rough start to the our region but yeah it will turn out fine just like everywhere else.
Actually, the ping and sever drama has been a thing between Indian teams and SEA teams for many tournaments now. But mostly it's the SEA team who was forced to play in Mumbai server
SEA teams always decline invitations if the online tournament isn't going to be on SG servers, which isn't really a problem. The problem is from EO who keep trying to invite SEA teams when they can only make online tournaments.
what are you waffling about go look at every other including this one indian players never play on their own server .Last time a tournament was played on our server and won your players that we are having ping issues and shit .
"But mostly it was the SEA team forced to play on Mumbai" . Are you DUMB? or Blind? When was the last time any SG/SEA teams played on Mumbai? Do you even follow valorant apac? Last time ur Indo team BOOM got fked by washed GEs and before that noxxy aka natslorant was crying and Alter Ego were crying because of Ping diff. It's either you are the most dumbest person I have seen in a while or you are just Baiting people. This comment got 20 likes? Where's the FACT CHECK? or is this to comfort SEA fans?
India at it's root is nothing what you're thinking it is. Esports in India is highly impossible as the country is not ready to accept it. Damn we're talking about lan events while we don't even get proper internet and server maintenance to play the basic game.
About the fans betraying the team thing, it happens with every sports team in india( sports and esports) they expect great performances and dont trust the process at all Hence if a team loses 3 to 4 matches in a row for whatever reason, fans go against them and brutally troll them This shit needs to stop asap
can you also make video about Valorant India Invitational ?. i think that the worse tournament ever. the first day is delayed for 6 hours and because off that the schedule is fucked up. take example Paper Rex vs Bleed eSports who supposed to be a closing match in day 1 is playing at 3 am. not only that, the stage is really bad, the players must wear 2 headset (one for noise cancelling and one for mic), and imagine being the casters who must buy some time for 6 hours. the only good thing about this tournament is the prize pool
2:15 his opinion isn't the issue. The issue is that he's on the job and should be profesional on the job. It's not production's fault he said something that obviously would put his career at risk. Oversights on production is nothing new and nothing malicious. Especially when it's a tournament set in a place like India where there might be less chances that the production team is used to hosting events of the sort and where budget might be more limited. He was the one willfully doing something on his job that he shouldn't do. Blaming production for an oversight is a weird way of seeing things.
This doesn't mean that he should be crucified either. However if we are to blame someone for what happened, not blaming the person wilfully doing something and throwing blame at people who didn't wilfully do anything malicious is just plain weird
U look good in last pic 🤣😇 As a indian valorant we expect good results but in india they are fight among each other more than other region ...there is no brotherhood here sad facts ✌ Brotherhood ... It's sucks ....
I know right . But when anybody tries to raise voice against these injustices there voices are shut down by owner of diff orgs which are benifited .and as an Indian valo player ( casual player not interested in going pro anytime soon) our voice are not answered cause this doesn't benifit many investors and this is basically purely profit driven even they have put India valo name to dirt.
Look I have known that Indian Valorant is becoming a joke not because the teams are bad just because of how the community is but maybe all this drama from mickey mouse tournaments lead to bigger and better tournaments which would show if Indian Valorant teams are actually good or nah
5:51 i said that because vlt ff'd the make or break match, not that they lost. i don't even support vlt so it didn't matter to me at all. it was just amateur of them to ff when all the fans were waiting for their match up
I have always noticed that Indian Valorant servers are hated because of toxic community. But in my opinion, there are good players like me who treat other players nicely. I don't really know the main reason for this toxicity Indian players have. And for this drama. I guess we should give India more time to improve and shall see how things will work. Hopefully players competing in Indian tournaments receive a great experience and our Valorant community grows. Thanks for making this informative video and letting us know the situation.
Never,no matter how much time or effort is given, Indian servers will never be good,the amount of toxicity makes you feel like not playing games anymore.
No hate to Indians. However, I watched latest youtube vdo from a player participating in an Indian lan tournament (prefer not to mention the names, both the player and the tournament). At one point he told the story about his experience with the lan tournament he had in india. He mentioned that he could not aim properly because the surface of the table was not smooth (It's bumpy even with a mousepad). When he's dragging the mouse to aim, it cannot be done smoothly. If this is true, it's really mess up. I mean, how hard it is for the organizer to prepare proper tables.
Keeping all the other criticism aside.....boom are the one to be blamed regarding the 1hr break in between as they weren't making a peaceful decision for the TO
Money value low and greedy work environment also gaming is new thing in India 2015 was gaming arcade machines but after 2017 they got internet for cheap and now 70% of Indians have some sort of internet.
Bro you don’t know them. The only thing they care about is TRP. Just think link this, you wouldn’t make this video if they wouldn’t had made such comment. Only just because of this video 100k+ people know about them. This is their tradition bro, they always use this type of negative marketing policy to gain TRP.
So fucking shamed did the region. Used to feel such a pity that billion people can't produce five legit contenders on the world stage, forget winners. Now realise why that is. It's about bad management.. go figure.
lol the casters learnt it from playing in Valorant Mumbai server the whole community and most of players are toxic nomatter ur noob or a pro from iron to immortal that why we ranked NO.1 in most toxic server in world. for the people who ignore negativity they say its an another day in Mumbai server. if you wanna play in Mumbai server we welcome u with racist comments,trash talking and bullying , been there experienced it lol and that to in higher lobby
I am commenting this as an Indian. The harsh reality is that Indian tournaments will suck. It's the natural consequence of a) struggling Indian economy b) esports is a very small niche in this country. I hope it gets better in the future idk
One of the main reasons for this Is simply money because the total amount e sport's make and sponsorship they receive is very low compared with others sport's like cricket football ..etc
If zahk was provided low pay why did she even joined? She had options and she should be responsible for her choices. But, male casters getting 2x or 3x of what she is getting is unacceptable.
Sorry to say but this is a run-of-the-mill Indian analysis/commentary. You'll find this type of analysis in every high school, college conversation, which is the level e-sports is at right now in India. It is a long way from becoming a widely respected and professional event.
To be very honest except for PUBGM or BGMI, the infrastructure used or the quality used in other games by event organisers are bad. They only promote or host selected games, while investing more than 75% in my opinion on BGMI / PUBGM tournaments.
when someone complain about ping we bully them and make a joke, but sadly we are the worst one because a whole team is badmood mode 💀 iam dissapointed why vlt forfeit so they ruin the tournament ( other them have a chance to play ) u know thats not a problem because the qualifier is even worse. iam just accept that and not defending that, ovaratet karana band karen ham sirph ek bure hain aur ise sveekaar karate hain
Please take this video negatively. If you don't you're never going to stop doing things the way you are. Get offended and prove everyone wrong. Hoping to see some more Indian teams in VCT
its sad that as a Indian i cant even support my own esports since we all know how fucked up it is Infact , thanks for this video , it was very imp to show how bad it is. expecting more exposes so Indians can learn ffs.
Well, there you go. The sole reason why i myself stopped watching my own country's tournaments, not that i dont want to, but its just too bad; in terms of Production, not the players.
Can we have a small talk about the events and vtournaments (+lan events) held in a small south Indian state like Kerala. I think this Indian gaming community doesnt even take a look at the efforts put up by the streamers, gamers and Esports orgs from parts of South India and they are given little to no attention. The strive to do their best and yet they arent even given a look at. They do with what they have, but will do it with their 100% will and effort.
Biggest thing that nobody speaks of is how there are rarely any open tournaments with a good prize pool. Major broadcasters host- streamer , invite only tournaments and the people who play these tournaments are 34-40 year old players who are not good at the game . I don't understand how does one expect the indian scene to grow without giving space or opportunity for it to grow. If you look at upcoming tournaments they are usually streamer showdowns or some random tournaments with invite only teams. There are no new players in the indian scene, the same old CS players are playing major Valorant tournaments and will continue to do so because the broadcasters want more viewership and of course money. They advertise themselves as being platforms which expand the indian scene but all they care about is making money. There is no incentive for new players to play competitively since they are never given any attention. LOL
yooo im from india and used to play valorant when it was first launched and had no idea that valorant leagues in india would be an actual thing. loved to hear about it even though it was a mess. also mumbai is spelled as “mumba-E” :)))
