The Yamaha Genos Digital Workstation | Review & Demo 

Same thing in Middle-East very popular.

I second this. I'd like to see a simplified arranging session first, then something a little more complicated.

Can you do some organ patches

So I dont need a computer or anything like that?

@JoOngleGamer: user memory in genos is around 56 gb actually. I guess you're talking an expansion memory, in genos indeed it was 1.8gb at the beginning but then yamaha released operating system update and now its 3.0 Gb actually. Still the whole procedure of expansion packs management is something that can be improved imho

@@genosman 3 GB, didn't know that, thanks, now I do :)

@@joonglegamer9898 :)

I disagree with the quality of the sounds. I think the Genos puts the Montage to shame with its acoustic sounds. Montage sounds okay, but the Genos sounds like a very high quality VST. I would LOVE a Yamaha synth to have all the Genos sounds without the arranger built in.

@@KevboKev They're both 24 Bit. You can load any sounds you want into the Montage, you can also simulate keystroke sounds, add variations to each of the 16 layers of sound you can add, and manipulate it to no end.

Dam. You could buy a decent amount of gear for that money.

Yeh I think it's different not awm2 but awm1

rotation needs longer instrument cords to swivwl the 360 degrees

Does the Genos have the same stunning Cathedral Organ sounds from the Tyros5?

If there are videos...we are not getting them from here. Send these ideas to Yamaha...see what they offer. I thinking you may already have a good understanding of the Genos and its limitations. It is an ARRANGER for live performance and limited editing. The Korg PA models are for deeper editing but less smooth acoustic instruments. Also research the Ketrons from Italy.

No arranger keyboards don't tend to have weighted keys because they are not intended for pianists. Arranger keyboards also need to be fairly lightweight so they can be taken to venues not that I would want to take a £4,000 keyboard out of the house.

Yes.

I Geoff, if I wanted to make my own compositions (solo) using keyboards and memory banks, would the Yam Genos or Montage be better - from a solo artist point of view who is making recording (not making live music, just composing recordings). Thanks.

@@oscarsheen3045 If you're using a DAW or recording multi-track, than the Montage is a better choice. The Montage can do drum tracks, bass lines and expressive performances. The advantages of the Genos are that you can set up arrangements of bass, drums and lead instrument and then play these back (with variations) quickly in a live setting. That's important for doing a full arrangement of a song as a solo live performer, but it doesn't give you any real advantages as a composer or recording artist. In fact, the Montage has some performance advantages for a keyboard player including a better action, the Superknob and scenes. The instrument sounds on the Montage are just as good, and it's more versitile as a synthesizer for creating new sounds. Finally, the Montage is about half the price of the Genos.

I use mine at home and i use it with Komplete Kontrol s49. I feel like i have the best of both worlds

thanks for this!

You can do midi sequencing on these arranger keyboards, the instrument sounds in this and even the Tyros 5 sound way more superior to the majority of VST instruments. However I'm not going to be getting a Genos even though I did consider it, I will be either getting a black Tyros 4 or a Tyros 5. Although it pains me to say it I'm not a big fan of the Genos's appearance but I like the black Tyros 4 because it looks reminiscent to an arranger keyboard from the 90s but I could tolerate a silver Tyros but at least the Tyros 5 is a dark silver. Another reason why a Tyros 4 or Tyros 5 appeals to me is because they also have a bank of legacy sounds so no matter what Tyros you get you will still get all the sounds from a Tyros 1 regardless of which model which is ideal if say you prefer the saxophone from Tyros 2 or want a drum kit from Tyros 1 or a clarinet from Tyros 3. The Tyros keyboards even have the XG sound set ( even though I already have a Yamaha MU50 ). I don't even use auto accompaniments unless I wanted to arrange public domain songs like traditional Christmas carols. I always sequence everything when I am doing song covers ( there is even an onboard sequencer on most arrangers ).

No arranger keyboards don't tend to have weighted keys.

Personally I would be happy with a Tyros 2 as you can now buy them for under a grand and the Tyros 2 still sounds just as good as it did back in the day. In fact many of Halion 6's sounds use those same samples, especially the drums, pianos and saxophones.

1. The price tag IS insane. Really insane. The sound palate very rich. Buy one [used] someday for half price. OR....buy a Tyros 4 or 5 soon as you can if you need an all around arranger for live performances now. These sound amazing in a live venue. In your studio you will be over picky but the audience will love your sound. I never like semi-weighte keybeds. So, , , if you are a pianist. . . Add a midi's weighted hammer action second board controller for a truerer piano feel keybed . . . like the Kawai's ES110's buttery smooth and heavenly keybed feel. Such a board will greatly enhance the AC pianos to a major auditory ACP experience. You want to ENJOY what your pianist hands touch...especially during tedious practice sessions [essential and required]. 2. The Tyros and Genos keybeds are a wonderful "gem for Organ and Synth touch. Your' paying for that high quality keybed. You won't miss out on anything [as a generalist] arranger performer. . . when used for live "arranging" performance venues. . . for many future years. Now I own the Genos, The deep workstation Korg PA5X is [different animal] for much extensive production work. The Yamaha Genos and previous Tyros 3 and 4and 5 emphasis is for venue performance: very light production work if at all. . . [a huge difference]. 3. Plus all these videos make them sound better than what you would ever. . . HEAR. .. even with your own powered speaker systems. Good headphones will always sound more amazing than speakers system but the 12 and 15' speakers like JBL EON [just one instance] are perfect especially the earlier speaker models "even 20 years old". . . built better. . . better materials. Don't EVER cheap out with speakers. The bigger lower speaker cone woofers bring 'out and forward' the hidden fat timbre spectrums.

Try a Montage or even an MODX. The acoustic sounds are excellent. In fact the Montage and Genos were introduced at around the same time.

@@geoffk777 Montage has no super articulation

@@Konigsberg39 That's technically true, but the Genos and Montage use the same Yamaha SWP70 tone generator and the Montage uses Expanded Articulation (XA) which is similar to Super Articulation. There are buttons to select various playing styles, and the Superknob and scenes also provide quick variations. I think that the sounds from both instruments are comparable and quite similar.

I sold my Kronos because I loved the Arranger experience with its backing tracks. Many have written well and "stunned" about the Kronos. Not me. I was UN-stunned by it.

i'm a producer and stage artist, also a fan of keyboards, i've tried top of the line synths from korg, roland, kurzwell and yamaha, all fantastic, but i also like arranger keyboards and their tools, i personally have a genos in my studio and I can say that it is a jewel of acoustic instrument sounds, very detailed and real. But in this demo the keyboardist wouldn't sell a dime.

Unless you own one…everything will be “cheesy” pouring not only out of this machine but RU-vid in general…from speakers headphones amps and whatever else you search…sound related..

@@OwlStudio73 what nonsense is this? We're not talking about reviews of speakers or headphones, playing back on some theoretical kid's iPhone speaker. We're talking about electronic music gear with its direct line outs being recorded.. 😅

Pretty mean, yet sounds true. 😄😝🤣 psr n tyros people have been stereotyped as restaurant church and wedding entertainers instead of serious musicians. That’s insulting but i do see the relevance because it does sound monotonous.

@@Wagoo No nonsense at as it’s all sound related and is relative to the listener..if you think the Genos sounds cheesy pumping out covers well than it’s truely little ignorant of you to think that way )

My suggestion ...until you play each for an hour or two...no written explanation will make a great reality for anyone. Arrangers serve a severely differe nt purpose than a nice Montage.

Please explain so we understand

Arranger keyboards are not intended for music production, I very nearly made the mistake of buying a Tyros 5 thinking it would be better than Halion 6 but that is not true. Halion is better for music production and in this instance I prefer software to hardware. The only hardware I like is PCM sound modules and drum machines like the Roland U-220, SC-88 Pro, R-8 or a Korg sound module. But as 80s synthesizers and lofi drum machines like the Roland TR-707 are extortionate I prefer VSTs.

@@LittleRichard1988 I respect that but this was a year ago now look at all the youtube producer's some of them told me I was crazy getting hardware now they done did a total 360 😆 🤣. As far as the arrangement keyboards go I just like going in a different direction than everyone one else. Everyone has the same VSTs I even have them. Hardware keeps you with fresh sounds

The jewel of it lies in its accompliment , not just the sound

Well I sold it. The end.@@sidhahappyface8782

I have one . . . but strongly t agree with you. I saved up. Got it for half price. . .so it made a LOT of sense. A huge amount of sense. . . as a venue performance ARRANGER. Not a deep work station.

Much better

@@albianco Please give us an explanation [I do not doubt your opinion]. . . WHY, for you, is the Korg pa5x better [more enjoyalbe]. I believe you. I like the rythyms on the Korg better but greatly enjoy the richer acoustics more on the Genos models. Also I have not time or use for a wonderful work station like the Korg [editing abilities]. I have both. I will never use the deep stuff on the Korg and may sell it soon unless their December 2022 updates smooths out the acoustic instruments. The Korg AC pianos are too harsh for my ear. Yet I understand many do praise the Korg PA line. They have important reasons for why. So I will learn from and respect your opinions and experiences. Thank-you for any advice and import.

@@richievpiano I use a Korg PA1000 (same engine as the PA4x, I think), and I'm impressed with the keyboard overall, but never liked the acoustic pianos, grand pianos, etc., that came with it. I downloaded a set of pianos that someone else created, and they're better and the ones I use on gigs, but I'm still disappointed with the piano sounds overall. I have my eye on the new PA5x and hope they upgraded the pianos. At $5,000 I'm hesitant to order one without getting to play one first somewhere.. we'll see. I use the PA 1000 on solo gigs and I'm just starting to really use more of its deep features. It's an awesome keyboard.