feel so sorry for that guy who got mistaken for someone else. cant even begin to imagine not just the physical pain, but the pain of practically knowing he was gonna die a day before his sons birthday. fuck this gang violence man, the worlds a cold place.
You are correct on Yardie gangs not having been the only ones involved in gun violence in Britain but the documentary is interesting because of how those gangs had originated: political violence in Jamaica following the 1980 parliamentary election in the Caribbean country.
I remember how we used to hear about these shootings though word of mouth, never in the news. When I used to visit my cousins I would tell them that there's a war going on but they thought I was making it up. I remember there was a particularly nasty shooting around 2004 where gun men broke into a house, tied up two women and one man, and killed them execution style - they left a baby alone crying amongst the bodies but at least they didn't harm it. You'd think this would have made the prime time news - nope, only the local paper.
You know, I work in the field, criminology/forensic psychology & the UK has a reputation for under reporting violent crime. It's not an intentional thing, at least I don't think it is. British news does report bloody stories but they don't seek those stories out like US news does. Also, the UK defines murder differently than the US does so it looks like violent crime rates are drastically lower in the UK. The US has no intent requirement to count a murder in the stats so we count lots of things the UK doesn't. That results in much higher official murder rates & just a general fixation on violence in the US. Anyways, yea, you make a great point. There is a different perception of violence. It's almost like the UK is ashamed of violence & doesn't want to exploit it. That results in less news coverage. I think that's changing now but 10 or 15 years ago stuff that hits the national news now only got minimal local coverage back then. In the US it seems like the policy of If It Bleeds It Leads has always been the case & with technology & political influence it has only gotten worse. That's kind of sad because violence is down in most of the world, yet reporting practices have most people scared & thinking we are in the middle of a crime wave. I think that fear lowers everyone's quality of life & that fear is coming from how violence is reported.
lol Good luck with that. You won't be so quick to attack someone you don't know if you risk getting shot now will you? Did you even think about that? You can run around Britain all day long strong arming people without much risk to yourself. You try that in the US & someone will defend themselves in a very effective manor.
shananagans5 Isn't it better to have people running around strong arming people all day long than have people running around shooting other people all day long.
A lot of it was blown out of proportion making out that it was only black people involved (Perhaps in part due to racial prejudice by our media). There were plenty of white gangs doing the same thing.
Dear Racists... Can you explain why Dublin has one of Europe's highest gun murder rates and why Glasgow has Western Europe's highest murder rate both are predominantly white and both are related to poverty rather than race. It is a fact that people who have a good standard of living seldom commit violent crime.
btw, "yardie" is a term we Jamaicans use to identify each other. it's not a term associated with being dangerous in Jamaica or among the other people of the Jamaican diaspora. I don't know why British Jamaicans bought into that bs. Jamaicans everywhere else (US, Canada, etc) knows that the term "Yardie" is another way of saying "Jamaican" since Jamaica itself is also known as "Yard".
People are wierd. 1. Complain i come from a poor area with no opportunity. 2. Boast about how tough my neighbourhood is 1. Tell everyone how bad gun crime is. 2. Boast that you were in the club when blah blah got shot
The 'Yardie' phenomenon in London was & always will be PURE MEDIA HYPE & just shows how out of touch the British media really is. Growing up in Tottenham & Stockwell in the 80's & 90's I can tell you first hand that Jamaicans were perennial victims & unless they clicked up with some Londoners. A few begs aside British born Londoners never gave a shit about no 'Yardies' the idea that black gangs in London were apart of some sort of Jamaica mafia is a laughing matter. But truth never mattered to the media who just called any & every black criminals 'Yardies'. I remember there was a Brockley gang called Ghetto Boys in the late 80's who were Africans that the media called 'yardies' simply because they were black. Clueless.
Jamaicans just like in America and Canada were mostly constant victims of themselves. Where they brought rivalries from Jamaica to anywhere they operated. The constant rivalry was so strong that you even had Jamaicans leaving London and participating in shootings back in Jamaica, such as when a local don in Kingston was shot 14 times in a drive by. They clicked up with locals just like in America and Canada because they needed low level pushers on the street. They were the bigger heads at the time shipping in the supply, through such entities as British link up crew etc. But I do agree that there was a media campaign both in London and at a time in America to villainize Jamaicans for wider black on black crime
Yardies were not overly hyped my father use to tell me about the shootouts that happened and black Africans weren’t even on it then and were biggest victims in London especially Nigerians who denied there own nationality and claimed to be Jamaicans themselves it was well known bare Africans denied there nationally not only that the spike in deportation for Jamaicans was out of the roof them times. By early 2000s majority of Yardies were deported, only other groups that was on it in 80s was Albos and Turks, I heard the triads were in London them times aswell but I haven’t seen information about that. But the Yardies was not overhyped.
My friend was just passing from a street were Jamaican gangsters in london attacked him with acid even if he gave them his phone and money, and he is a poor immigrant seeking for a better life but now he is done, he wears a mask and can't talk anymore
wow unbelievable the lady said when the young man got shot in the club. Their were witnesses all around but when the cops showed up nobody knows nothing and 350 people were in the toilet really. That's one big ass bathroom
The gangs did/do a LOT of harm to British cities. We all know the type of people they are. Some of us have seen it first-hand, destroying businesses, leeching like parasites every day off decent people and ruining life for many people. No respect for any part of that culture and those people. Feel free to make legends of them in some of your minds but its a sign of your weakness and ignorance. Our cities were built on damned hard work, not this nonsense, so go out and work hard doing positive things. Long live decent people and Great Britain!
Competetion is why the yardees fled the US for the UK. They arrived here after our crack epidemic was already happening. Where do you think they learned to make it? When they came here we already had gangs that had already been for decades were more violent than they would ever become in the UK. NYC was getting 3K murders a year, and averaging a shooting every 45 minutes. The yardees are active in canada still to this day but not the US. Our criminal gangs were already too large, rich, powerful, and violent for them to compete with.
3K Murders a year? Massive exaggeration there mate. The difference between UK and US gangs is apparent almost instantly. Having lived in both the US and UK, the general British Gang Member is far better at fist fighting than the average American Gang Member. I would say American Gangsters are far more successful and generally larger, but British Gangsters mostly settle disputes with fighting and not killing. Gang Territories are also far smaller in the UK, with a single mile maybe having 5-6 gangs, whereas in the US I've been through areas where for three straight miles it's been all Crip.
Not really, it was deportations and a crack down on corruption at the borders. So it became harder for gang members to access the market and the ones there were caught and deported. The UK did the same with visa requirements to enter, for a long time you only needed a passport.
As the US ban on 'Assault rifles' Has proved, criminalising ceratin weapon types has actually had little to 0 effect of crimes involing those weapon types, in some cases they went up. Showing that its not the legally owned weapon that are the problem but the illegal supply which,even with the weapons ban, continues pretty much unhindered.
@@CallumPengelly I know this is old as fck but just really gotta say gangs don’t shoot anyone wtf 🤣 they shoot their rivals. It’s not like they wake up and go like ‘I feel like killing a civilian today’ lmao
Uk gangs are always hilarious. All the impressionable Chavs whove been listening to too much rap music, written by people who're actually well educated and disciplined. Trying to act all hard, like theyre from South Central LA or something. When in fact, if they were to go there, and go "Yo yo back off blood im from England innit" or something, theyd first get hysterically laughed at, and then shot.
I have a job shit head I'm a welder and probably get paid more than you but and I don't have to be literate on the internet u fucking grammar nazi and not everyone finds it easy getting a job example people who struggle in school and don't get the help they need so the end up hating school And bunking it
sean melville Errrrrrrr .....no. Anyhoo, go watch some more gangster films from the US and then go and walk with a limp on your estate and hurl abuse at old age pensioners or something...
sean melville Sorry all i read was "Hi in my spare time i like to dress in a leotard and prance about. That is when im not having trouble with spelling and punctuation, rendering what i type on the internet to be wholly nonsenical".
btw it isn't always about race, every creed would be part of a gang we all have the capacity to comit violence people need to stop looking at the past times fucking change, its all about money nothing to do with race
Lil wild ass brother comin up in the west From the streets where the heat is never given a rest Role model past the bottle ain't no time for class Gun blaze, seem the only way to settle scraps What we doin? Let's get together Cause it don't make sense, if we all can't make it better Like the Crips and Bloods in nine deuce Tone B speakin on the truth USA Hip Hop
Yeah thing is when they come here to start with Jamaican police dont give us any criminal info on them so all yous r doin is trying to pass the blame u expect us to just put up with it dont think so
U cant compare america to the uk in anyway, the ghetto estates in london are tiny compared to the ghetto states in america. But in 2004 their was more gang related murders in london than any state in the US. The reason the gun type murder crimes is so low in london is because they dont sell guns here to anyone not even police only one type of special unit. Most of the gang murders were done by knife. But imagine if they did have guns, you have to remember london gangs is built up from ex 3rd world type people, carribean africa ect their experiences are much more brutal than your average wana be trend setter from america. The jamaica gangsters from london were the real deal.
Sur Raza London doesn't have ghetto estates it has council estates which are very similar and to think that London or anywhere in England isn't dangerous compared to America would be naive, to travel around South London at night is one of the scariest experiences you can probably have, I would dare you to try it and say London isnt bad
Sur Raza You mean central Brixton is full of bars, you go to any of the estates surrounding that its a total different scene. you probably haven't seen that side of things...
U can't really blame us u brought us here to build your empire and fight on the front lines of your wars and then put us in poor living conditions and refuse to provide work for us? People have to eat innit bruv? So don't cry now hardiest are all over London now especially where I'm at (Brixton)
no blacks were brought to the british isles to build it slaves were not allowed in britain slaves were took to former british colonies and then once they gained independence from britain and became independent nations all the blacks moved to the UK I wonder why LOL
BrokenThoughts Lil wild ass brother comin up in the west From the streets where the heat is never given a rest Role model past the bottle ain't no time for class Gun blaze, seem the only way to settle scraps What we doin? Let's get together Cause it don't make sense, if we all can't make it better Like the Crips and Bloods in nine deuce Tone B speakin on the truth USA Hip Hop
Northerners are poorer than you and their schools are all failing. Don't give me the wah wah downtrodden shite. Indians don't struggle, what's their secret?
***** Exactly. If anything European Imperialism help bring industrialization to Africa. Otherwise if left uncontacted most would still be living in mud huts.
the whole point in this documentary is saying that the yardies come over here because they got ran out of kingston (there home town, which is more dangerous than any other city/town in uk) and bringing there violence with them....did you take any of the documentarys information in,, or did you just watch it because it said UK gangs?
So making it illegal to own a firearm is going to make criminals stand in line to turn them in. That's just insane thinking. disarming an honest citizen only makes them unarmed victims.
Of course the fun ban in the good old UK had worked that's why it's not a daily occurrence (fact) even though it's not impossible to get a gun in UK it's certainly not easy by any means
Lee Thistlethwaite It is actually very easy to get hold of a gun in the UK. It is actually far easier then getting hold of criminalized drugs for example. Its just with a minimum of 5 years in jail few people would be so open about them. But yes any one with half a brain can get a gun in the UK within a few days for not a great deal of money.
+xXDarkBoltXx our free masons still own america lol Mexicos cartel is organised by Scotland right freemasons, just follow the leaders and who profits, CIA, MI6
+xXDarkBoltXx grandfather is ex freemason, 20% of gang led movement is controlled by yakuza and Triad, in the USA, triad and Yakuza answer to the CIA only, Afghanistan 's opium trade is fed straight into USA and who's pulling the strings?; MI6 , who controls MI6 ; Scottish Yard intelligence who has Total Authority in Scotland? Freemasons
the toughest gun laws in the world and the UK can't keep guns off of it's streets. i am an American, a gun owner, an ordinary civilian, and i have a permit that after training, a background check, routine follow up background checks, and a shooting test, allows me to carry a loaded firearm almost anywhere i want to. carry permit holders are an asset to public safety. criminals will be able to get guns wherever they are including the UK. this is proof that whatever money is chasing will be provided regardless of the law. gun control advocates in the Unite States believe the UK to be a gun-free paradise. it does not work that way. sex, guns, whatever it is, if money is chasing it, it will be provided. UK gun laws are no stumbling block for anyone willing to break the law.
you can say what you want about our gun laws, but in general all of our laws are much better than your laws. people in your country get prison time for crimes that are not serious. an example would be this, in the USA you get nicked, arrested, just for being high, stoned, even if you got nothing on ya. if I had a bag of weed on me I wouldn't get arrested in England, the scum would just take it off me and give me a warning. Real freedom.
You could even say since the 70's check out Coxon & Saxon sounds. Saxon Original London Rude Boys, Jah shaka, Coxon ect are more Rasta and black conscious movements. There has always been lyricist within Londons black community. dont be suprised at all by gangster rap in the 90's its always been a part of the black british culture. fist you had calypso singers in the 50's 60's, then you had Reggea singers in the 70's 80's in the 80's and 90's London had a vast amount of MC's from Raga mc's, Jungle mc's, Garage mc's, Rap mc's 00's Road Rap Mc's and Grime mc's. Ignorance is Bliss
Ireland, Dublin, Unemployment in the younger generation is very high and especially disadvantage areas like all countries. Their first and sometimes only job is selling drugs mainly weed. Even that's changing to one stop shop for whatever you want. In the last 2 years it's becoming normalised, the dealing of drugs by children and getting worse. Covert was the perfect storm for unleashing a cohort of youth in becoming drug pushers and takers . Is it any wonder why they start From ten/10 year's old up . This is a new phenomena. These youth are starved of honest role models, None. How could it be any other way for these deprived areas, its not just bricks and morter, people make up the neighbourhood. I know what I'm talking about, believe me when I tell you this. In the next 7 to 10 years the problem's this country will experience from drugs legal and illegal will be Hell on earth , the selling and consuming right across the board will be like nothing seen before. Government are afraid to move the rock , the country won't like what is under it 😱, ✊☘️.
I hate this gang violence spreading through our communities im not stupid enough to blame the people and understand the impact of our surroundings but we must work together to educate the youth.. I don't wanna spam but if any of you can check out Last Hope on my page an anti-gang violence song we did and leave feedback. If not thanks for your help and time anyway.
how come the UK is always being compared to the US, has there anybody been out there , who claimed that the uk is more violent than the US or what's going on below each and every crime documentary about the UK in the comment sections, I have never seen anybody bragging about the higher crime rate in e.g. Jamaica compared to the US...who cares that there is more crime overseas, this is europe guys...two very different animals
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226wolfman well unless tht guy at 14:30 is tryna speek black ya wrong cos nearly every scally in manchester talks like him its called an accent n the london n birmingham accents are daft as fuck which is why i they try and talk black cos there original accent is about as intimidatin as a fairy
david jones america is alot more dangerous than the uk ALOT but saying american accents are more intimidating dont be daft id be much more intimdated by a glasgow/edigburugh/liverpool/manchester accent than any accent in america
1:03 "It's a scene that's become almost commonplace, another *shitting* on the streets of London...." I've never heard 'shooting' pronounced like that before, or has this been edited to make it sound so? Funny either way!
Yard man doesn't fear anything or anybody , that's why there so notorious : ( They bring that mindset to fairly peaceful uk & states & tear shit up ..My advice to anyone is this in there language " Leff di yardman alone " simply put very dangerous set of individuals : O
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People on here saying this is an imitation of the us gang culture? I am sure us has some influence but it's clear to see that Kingston is the biggest influence here @
