The Youtuber Who Filmed Her 'Kidnapping' | Save Marina Joyce 

omg

Kings

this from you

​@@AidanPatko!!!

@@nicematerial at least he’s back to regular ish uploads now.

lmao true

Ikr?! Was here to comment that the biggest mystery on RU-vid was HIS disappearance now. But I guess we might never know, sounds like an NDA sitch... ::gulp::

@katymaloney Yeah I defo think whatever happened, law enforcement was involved if he's not sure what he can really say

Lol I didn't see the irony til you mentioned it 😂

The irony is not lost

Istgg

🥺 hopefully the king will return once again

Ikr 🥺

guess what

Guess whis back

See yaa! 🫡

See you all!

the f, dude your life is hell for everyone, might as well not be a man anymore, erectile dysfunction is no joke

see yall 🙃

hes backk!

We've been blessed.

Both

Seeing you liking good content is wild 😂

Dude no freaking way

...Am I hallucinating, or is that ElvistheAlien?

lmao missed seeing you as well!

We needed you back too.

Omg dangelo wallace and primink in the same comment section what is this a crossover episode??

Periodt.

DANGELO SAID IT BEST

Wake up, he’s back!!! New vid just dropped!

He's back as of today

he's back again!

.

mental health definitely wasnt near as big of a topic as it is now. people were much less aware. thankfully thats improved A LOTTTT :)

@@PhylliciaField as a mentally ill person, it hasnt. The rhetoric and semantics has, but its the same if people dont like you or what youre doing.

@@jazzyg6059 THANK YOU! The current narrative actually feels more like gaslighting at a societal level than actual mental health awareness. In the real world, the responses and reactions to mentally ill people feel no different than before. What I actually see is rampant virtue signaling by people whose understanding of mental health doesn't extend beyond pop psychology articles or tik tok videos.

thank you for this comment. Villainizing people with mental illness FOR being mentally ill is some of the most hateful shit imaginable

It's always made me so happy when I check and see that no matter how much time passes, the sub count didn't go down. I never would have unsubscribed cuz I didn't want to give up and I'm glad most people were still just waiting!

@@LunarEleven I agree!!

It helps that the fans are sweet. SO many commentary channels have pretty toxic communities, meanwhile down here it’s just kind of like: “Haha, messy RU-vid drama is messy.”

Coryxkenshin is the same, even he gained like 1 million+ subscribers in his last hiatus😂😂

@@LunarElevenI have a new phone and a new account so my phone hasn’t even searched for a Primink video before. An angel obviously put him on my recommended list and I am THRILLED

It’s been 3 years already????

@@Meowzer030 I can't believe it has been 3 years either, like what???

Huh? YT has been pushing his vids to me, every couple of weeks; were they old vids? I didn't even notice

IS THE LEGEND BACK OMFG!!!!

#SavePrimink

Bro went to get milk, stopped back in to drop it off and realized he forgot cigarettes

Hes back with the milk!!

@@nemoonemii yessss hahaha saw his new vid

I attempted a wellness check for my dad. I had a feeling he died. The cop refused to check on him. We fought for about an hour.

@@TheBrae13what was the result? Was your dad okay?

He was dead. Not sure for how long. We were not even sure why.

​@@TheBrae13 Wow, that sucks, i hope you could keep going after that shit my friend. People who don´t even really care are the worst.

Wow, I'm so sorry. That's awful. You shouldn't have had to go through something like that on top of a loss.

Genuinely looked to see if you came back multiple times! We missed you lad.

Bruh?💀

@@jamstahjamsame, I thought this was an old video

Tbh. Life goals lmao.

Same. I'm 40 with a kid and husband. But I'm weirdly attached to this dude and making sure he's ok. I guess it's the mom in us lol

I'm middle-aged with a kid, and I squealed like a teeniebopper! Great content is great content, even if we're old enough to be the creators parents/piblings.

31 with a toddler and honestly same lol😅

32yo who felt the same 😂

Oh god I’m sorry, is that permanent?

@@ravenID429for some, it can be, there are plenty cases where people who have a bad trip find themselves hallucinating uncontrollably for months after and those effects never going away, it’s like having a seizure, it happens but not in control of the person. May God bless Us All

Lmao this has nothing to do with tripping. It would never make you act dumb like this and continue to edit and post videos .

"AS YOU CAN SEE I AM NOT DEAD"

...bet he was being held hostage, after doing drugs in Peru.

​@@zoolog2012😂😂😂

Wait he uploaded only after 3 years. What happened to him?

Bro this is my first video on the channel and your here? Dude why are u everywhere

Proud of you for overcoming your addiction ❤️

as an ex iv drug user, of the bruises ive seen they dont appear to be caused by drug abuse.

​@Kenny-sc1ey I'm in recovery from IV drug addiction and i always had a few bruises on the backs of my arms from the tourniquet. But I was seriously underweight and malnourished too so that didnt help. But yeah they looked different than track marks.

if she says she was partying then it makes sense. my ex was her similar build, shorter, pale white girl, and she came home with tons of random bruises and whatnot after we got home from raves/parties/clubs. i dont bruise easy but pale girls with most likely iron/potassium deficiencies definitely bruise from random bumps.

@@Kenny-sc1ey no i know the bruises arent from iv. They would be on the other side. But you can be more prone to bruising from drugs in general.

Holy Shit... I didn't realize it was THREE years.

ITS BEEN SO LPNG 😭😭

3 YEARS???? IT WAS 3 YEARS??

wait was he actually sued?? i thought that was a joke 😭

​​@@mason96575or was it Venus' mom? Cuz he mentioned something about her suing him in the vid about Lillee

Then you become upset rather easily and without reason. Many comments (posted prior to yours) say exactly this. Also, it is addressed in the video. But why would you have an issue even if they didnt know? Do you think everyone should be associated with either thing? I only know because of my education. Not because I’ve ever seen it in person. Most people on the planet don’t actually understand mental illness.

I do believe she was using (likely a variety) of drugs. But as someone who has used (speed, benzos, psychedelics, etc.) extensively in the past, there's a stark difference between a "regular" drug user and someone whose addiction is comorbid with a more serious mental disorder. In a group of drug users, sometimes there's someone who seems to not "handle it as well" or they are never the same afterwards even if they get cleaned up. These are often people with bipolar, schizophrenia, or a dissociative disorder. While drug induced psychosis is possible on its own, it's not really true that drugs cause some of these more long term conditions (especially since there's a genetic component). It's more like they become "activated," as you said. I guess this is all to say, yes, Marina likely used drugs. However, her mannerisms indicate there's deeper issues that are likely only exacerbated by the drugs. Like, it's only a small part of the whole picture. As outsiders, we'll never be privy to that whole picture, but I hope she's coping and doing well in her day to day life regardless.

I considered the two being coexisting issues for this person pretty much immediately. I have mental health issues and I know from experience that the effects of mind-altering substances can change a lot due to the different neurodivergencies and mental illnesses one has, and that such substances can also act as triggers for symptoms either in some circumstances or in all of them. For me, my nervous system and mental health doesn't react well to sativa strands of marijuana (or at least, it hasn't before, tolerance might've changed). Also, I know indica is typically known for relaxing people in a way that might make them sleepy. However, for me, indica's sedative effects only serve as a counter stimulant to my ADHD, without putting undue strain on my nervous system (as sativa would). Doing indica allows me to focus and to choose whether to relax or do something with more activity, without my body and brain being as picky about it. I can rest if I want to, I can be more active than if I were sober if I want to, I can play video games (with tunnel vision, which works against me sometimes), I can do art without getting art block as easily, and I can do other creative things as well as think through emotional problems more easily with it. Sativa makes me overstimulated, and it's harder to focus on what I want to focus on. If I get high on it without being in a calm, relaxing, and safe feeling environment when I take it, especially if I don't have anything pleasant to distract myself as the effects of the high come on, it can trigger nerve pain, seizure-like episodes, panic attacks, and if I'm super high, confusion and terror. ADHD also changes how stimulants and depressants work in the brain, chemically, which changes how a person with an ADHD brain presents and experiences their ADHD. I am ADHD, autistic, and have PTSD/C-PTSD and panic disorder. I also have mobility issues with my spine, caused by early skeletal degeneration and spinal compression, and peripheral neuropathy. The only substances I use are FDA approve medications, and medical marijuana. THC can be used to help with symptoms of ADHD if used correctly, for some people, like myself.

​@@Rumplegirlskin and yet, most people on the planet are affected by mental illness/mental health adjacent issues, which are very important parts of life for both the individual and society. A basic understanding, above what is the average now, should be maintained. In communities were the average understanding of mental health and neurochemistry is higher, the rates of suicide, self harm, substance abuse, and so many other issues are quite lower.

Especially with pshycadelics. They are becoming more popular, and people are beggining to not look at them as drugs, which they are. Weed especially, which can cause severe pshycosis. I fell into doing Weed and pshycadelics for awhile, mainly shrooms, DMT, and weed (yes, Weed is a mild pshycadelic) and it put me in an episode of pshycosis that had me believing I was a God and acting a lot like how Marina was acting. It's terrifying, and these drugs should not be messed with. That doesn't go without saying that shrooms and dmt can actually be beneficial IF someone can guide the trip and under moderation. Your brain also should be fully developed, because it can fuck you up if it isn't. Out of every drug I did, shrooms were actually the one thing that I can confidently say helped me more than did harm, but dmt and Weed? Shit will have you believing you are the second coming of christ if abused lmao

Agree!

lol it sucked, but so do all other lame Ghostbusters movies

im like 80% sure that comment was sarcastic

Lol

i’m screaming 😂😂😂😂

Which is crazy because I was just about to start that very campaign! Day late & dollar short, eh? 😂

Lmao 😂 💀

Cool comment

I like your comment. :]

depends on what he did hope its nothing bad..

​@kayanono Pretty sure he was being sued by one or two of the batshit mothers he covered in past videos. They were hellbent on trying to get him to take down the videos he made exposing them.

I wonder if it has anything to do with Lillie Jean... 🤔

I basically don't remember anything from when I was depressed, so yeah it's very likely she doesn't either, especially with being on drugs

Yeah she seems extremely dissociated like 90% of the time

@@jodoodlyboi2963 Right? Depression alone can distort thoughts pretty badly but imagine that distorted sense of reality x 100 because it seems like she might be struggling from psychosis or mania. In that case, the person is so deep in that they don’t even realize there’s anything wrong.

And its SO gross how people were making fun of her.. like wtf??

​@@Ch39470We're (comment section) all thinking drug-induced psychosis considering everything outlined in this video.

Stalin no💀💀

Wha huh 💀

Ehhh?

SCREAMING HAHAHA

Just when I forgot we were in the matrix... 😩

VERY missed. I've binged the catalog probably six to eight separate times. I'm SO glad that you've been okay, Primink!

Yes just like Jesus, Primink died for our sins and 3 years later he resuscitated and he's now more glorious than ever.

I couldn't've worded it better myself. And, I'm wishing you well with your own situation; it can be rough climbing out of a hard spot, but the goal of feeling better I'm sure is so worth it

@@Alfred-Neumanthe word resuscitated took me out 😂

@@DirtyBngWatersomeone gave Jesus some really REALLY good CPR in that cave

@@mason96575 I think it was that human doll girls mom he mentioned it in a past video that she was trying to sue him

Oooo, the heart... Confirmation? Now was it Venus Angelic's Mom or Lily Gene?

He hearted it O.o

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sued or committed

But are you "literally shaking"?

@@iHaveTheDocuments well, duh… they’re like ✨literally✨ throwing up over a RU-vidr!

yesss

shes doing okay now i believe, shes still uploading actually and i agree im so glad hes back, i almost had a stroke when i seen the new upload.

same, crazy to finally get some kind of conclusion!

Yess! Even if he posts just a few videos a year I’ll be happy

Frrr, we want that quality over quantity 😤 would rather he enjoy what he’s making and continue to see that passion shine through his work instead of overworking himself

It’s not unique lol we love his videos cause he a twink

This! He can post whenever he wants to, even if it's not often. His channel, his life, his rules.

@@scionixx9568what’re u talking abt 😭

yeah we don't expect a full happy ending with regular people, we shouldn't with influencers either

@@heroinfathr Exactly, I think people treat influencers like entertainment and expect a conclusion that would happen in a story but in real life that just doesn't happen. As much as some of them want us to think otherwise, they're just humans.

Yeah I think this is a big problem nowadays. We see influencers as our entertainment and equate them as fiction. So we see them and their lives as characters/stories instead of real.

It's not fine. Just because it happens to a lot of people doesn't make it fine. It's sad that so many people go through that and no one can or help them.

@@XCookieEaterX Then what are you going to do about it? How are you going to make sure not a single person falls back into addiction? You can't, hence it's fine. I'm not saying ignore it ffs I'm just saying this kind of obsession and acting like it's an outlier just makes things worse.

He came back with a "Save someone other than me" video 😅

@@mason96575 do you have proof or is it just an educated guess? I hope you have proof to be speaking so confidently about this across the comment section

@@sylviabarnes5928 that's fair. Taking the comments down. It's just he heavily implied it 3 years ago - then mentions it in the final frame of this video, too. Plus if you look her up she has been suing and copyright striking any channel that has mentioned her. As recently as three months ago with a guy named Price.

@@mason96575who is doing that?

@@mason96575 Fair enough! and sorry if I was harsh, which I think I was, I'm just tired rn. Also thanks for elaborating. It does make sense, I get where you were coming from

As someone who has also been in recovery and clean for 7 years, that's what it felt like to me as well. It all felt a little too familiar and made me uncomfortable the kind of attention she was receiving. She needed help with her mental health and instead everyone kept feeding in to her behavior ☹️

It seemed like everyone was looking for a movie-like spectacle when the answer was actually very simple. She needed help but the internet wanted a show. The sensationalism about her case was a disservice.

I always thought she was having some sort of psychotic episode or something like that.

@@talic-os5899you’re right pretty much if you watch the video that she posted about it recently it is that she talks about it idk why he didn’t go more in depth on that cause she didn’t say it was just drugs

Exactly and sadly social medi is the platform they love no human contact they only hear what you tell them and it’s made for narcissists

yeah, ppl will see weird stuff and assume there's some kind of secret code, and will comment shit like "omg wear orange in your next video if you need help!!!" and it always just confuses me bc like...in the hypothetical situation where you have a kidnapper who's making you make videos, you don't think the kidnapper would be watching the comments like a hawk? like even if they were being held hostage and being made to make videos i doubt the captors would be that stupid lmao

Or like they thought she was psychotic or had mental issues fr

​@@jasperjazziewell they're usually teenagers, children, or adults who have internet brain rot (aka online-children). They perceive things differently.

@@rach3092that IS what happened though? She took drugs and they gave her mental issues?

⁠@@alexbennet4195Not exactly, she was diagnosed with MS and went crazy after

THIS IS SO CUTE

That's so adorable! twisted, but adorable

You've summoned him (Happy anniversary!)

Happy anniversary 🥹🥹 that’s so adorable, God bless you both

When I met my husband, we bonded over your disappearance from the internet, and how fitting that you're back as we're hitting our anniversary lol

Lashing out after being embarrassed, that's what I'd guess.

She did play into it though...

i don’t think it necessarily means that people wanted to be the hero, she fed the idea of being kidnapped and everyone realizing she was just lying was part of the reason of everyone disliking her

bro what shes obviously safe💀💀

@@carobebebonita um she was just having a mental health episode she didn't feed into it at all... ppl are so fucking cruel jesus its getting embarrassing how no one on the internet has any kind of empathy anymore

For some reason a lot of people going through psychosis always are deeply interested in religion as u can notice by the way she gets more spiritual I’ve noticed that a lot with the people around me. Their speech is different everyone else notices but the person going through it. They almost feel more like themselves more in touch with themselves but it’s complete opposite in reality. They legitimately beleive the thing they’re saying even if it makes no sense to us, it’s the truth to them.

U can spot it so quickly, it’s ridiculous people made a bunch of bs up. The way they even move u can tell. U can see it in their eyes the most. It’s mania x10 complete delusion sometimes they can even hear and see things that aren’t there

I was wondering if some of it had a physiological/neurological diagnosis that could explain. I do not personally have MS, but with the groups of people i interact with regularly, it's a thing (thing refering to behavioral, speech, and such changes) I've noticed paired with a wide range of health conditions.

Oh wow thank you for clarifying this

Thats so interesting! I have MS, diagnosed at 15 and im 17 now, when I first got diagnosed i got really depressed (still do) and used a bunch of things to cope because I thought my life was over. Just commenting because she might have gone through the same thing as I did!!

I wish he’d included this because it’s definitely significant, thank you for sharing it!

Can confirm it isn’t a death sentence, my partners dad has MS & he’s in his late 70’s

Odd thing to specifically say about a guy fresh out of prison

​@@adambonesaw3689lmao sure

pretty sure he got sued for something lol

@@CaseyCorruptedfor what

@@CaseyCorrupted wait really?

@@ilyjoudi idk friend its speculation based on his "explanation" for being gone haha

@@thevilonesfr it's just speculation on my part based on what he said! probably had to sign NDA stuff so he can't talk about it at all.

James what are u doing here??.

Is this the multi verse too much happening I can't

@JamesWelsh ain't no way you're here too

Omg James here!!

I like this crossover

He might broke your heart.

You’re so much more calm than I was about this return lolll

Wasnt there also that weird 'Hope Everyone Likes Pancakes' tweet that people said spelled out 'help' ?

@@shipper-of-heart8898 I've never seen that, but I'm not surprised people would come to that conclusion. What I do remember was how Joyce was liking tweets of people showing concern or asking about her wellbeing.

I remember how people went all detective. Meanwhile sane people are sitting back going. So someone kidnapped, makes her do videos, steals her money, edits her videos whole she is leaving "cryptic" help me messages. Ya that makes total sense. It is a kidnappers dream to take someone and force them to make RU-vid videos. 😂

The worst was people framing her boyfriend who did absolutely nothing wrong except be there for Marina and be in her videos.

what? @Smash-gs5kd

omg he kidnapped her!

We should make a temple or sg😂

I believe she's mentioned she has multiple scelerios in one of her videos, which would explain a lot

Yup. I am diagnosed with bipolar disorder I resonate with a lot of the behaviors she was exhibiting because I did the exact same things.

she was on drugs. a friend of hers who is also a youtuber made a video a few years ago about how they did drugs together and then she really went off the deep end in her substance abuse

I'm 30 now and was diagnosed with Bipolar 1 when I was 15. Mania is a terrifying, often destructive symptom and while a lot of her behavior is consistent with mania, the fact that this behavior continued nearly uninterrupted for years simply doesn't support the nature of the disorder. Mania takes a tremendous toll on a person, both physically and emotionally, and as a result, the episodes don't normally last more than a few weeks at most. The body just can't sustain itself in that state for such an extended period of time. Drug abuse, while certainly common in people with chronic psychotic illness, seems to fit better here. I'm no psychiatrist, nor do I know marina, but I think long-term substance abuse is a more likely part of an accurate explanation.

Same! I’m bipolar too.

I’ve had drug induced psychosis as well. That’s what I immediately thought of watching this video. I’m glad you’re doing better and I hope Marina is too ❤

For a year???? That's insane! I didn't know effects could last that long

@@rawxane some people never recover! Drugs can cause life long psychosis or damage to the brain :( !! I’m lucky mine was only a year. I was def going off the deep end and was not a good person

May I aks what kind of drugs? My brother is an opioid addict dabbling with fentanyl he is a walking corpse , no one knows what to do for him. He's been in and out of jail and rehab for almost a decade. Just wondering how people get better 😊 glad for you!

@@krissyhenderson4089 mine was some LSD that wasn’t actually LSD. Idk what it was, but as soon as I put it on my tongue I could tell it was wrong based off the taste. Probably some sort of chemicals. Later, at a friends house he put meth in some weed were smoking and didn’t tell me. We aren’t friends anymore after that. But I lost my mind for 3 days after that. The last straw was doing MDMA that probably also wasn’t pure MDMA cuz I reacted really strangely to it. And I wasn’t the same after that. I was young and had no guidance whatsoever my whole life… now looking back, I would never do the things I did. I was stupid. And my brain paid the price!!

Same i watched those insta accounts like a hawk for updates

It only gets worse if you keep using, and even though it doesn't seem like it if you stop that feeling or urgency and craving does go away

I also remember following this. I was so concerned for her and I remember being very confused when she started getting into spirituality.

I’m currently going through this. The speech changes, everything. everything is like a blur, my mother asked if I was on drugs. I said I don’t touch anything but weed, but I’m high all day everyday. Sometimes I’d abuse other things like pills or sleeping medicine. I have ASPD so it’s hard to have that energy to quit because I like the feeling. It’s hard to let go of, but I know one day I’ll be okay, I hope she is okay.

​@@blushbb.sending you love, take it one step at a time ❤

Yeah he didn’t even mention it all he said was “drugs”

What is ms

She has MS? I had no idea. Someone I know has the disease and I always knew it was a bad disease to have, but I never understood the gravity. People with MS truly suffer and are in such a uniquely terrifying place

@@TosyaChanmultiple sclerosis

Where are ppl getting ms? How would a RU-vidr known for his research miss that. Bc it's prolly not true.

What's not touched on in this video is that she talks about her depression because she has MS. It's really weird that he didn't mention it at all.

@@BrennaDrawsalso the whole sam pepper situation was probably a factor.

@@BrennaDrawsdid not know she had MS. That makes a lot of sense. My brother is suffering from it as well

i’m so sorry for your loss.

@@Grace-ng4ko thank you

He?

​@@Mr.Larssonthey're talking about primink

@@sadgurlz ooh now i get it, thx. Happy new year BTW 🎆

'buddy' you're not friends.

@@jimmybalzac6021 My bad. I tend to call people that, and tbh I'm just happy to see him back. That's all there is to it.

@@scentist_error there's nothing wrong with you saying buddy, it's cute that buddy is what you say when you're happy!

Well the delulu was strong with me, but in this day and age, of course there's VISIBLE evidence of the depths of my ridiculous behaviors and thought process at that time 😬 Yikes! Cringe isn't a strong enough word... There's times that I absolutely utterly humiliated myself...... And had no idea that's what I was doing at the time!!!! 😢

I agree! I know someone who was heavy on drug use and watching them become clean from how they used to act to now is just completely different and a lot better for them!

She has MS I believe.

​@@lostandfound625it's weird it wasn't mentioned in this video

@@lostandfound625I do as well and the personality change happened to me as well from MS and robotic movements.

I feel like mental illness has to be involved in some way

as an autistic person, she just sounds neurodivergent. i dont know why people are making such a big fuss, this is normal to me.

​@lemonmeat except she didn't always act like this. Also I've never met an autistic person who speaks like this. This is more like someone in a psychosis or something

No she's clearly into BDSM stuff and if it makes her come to get slapped who are we to judge her?

@@lemonmeat i think people were making a big deal because it seemed like a complete shift in personality for her. the shift to that behavior seemed like it was because of drug abuse rather than being born neurodivergent. all of the mannerisms she displays now didn't exist when she was a teenager/young adult. drug abuse can permanently alter your brain as well so even if she isn't currently on drugs they still could potentially effect the way she acts to this day. she could have had some underlying mental illness that the drugs could have exacerbated but we'll never know for sure. i'm also neurodivergent and imo there's definitely more factors to it than just being born neurodivergent or developing those traits naturally later in life. i do wish the best for her though and she seems to be doing a little better so let's hope she continues to improve.

yeah she did, he cut out the whole rest of the vid where she talks about having MS /:

@@piercetvenjoyer2003 What is MS?

@@victoriaaro1301Multiple sclerosis

@@victoriaaro1301 ^ yerp multiple sclerosis, she talked about how her brain was basically dying and thats why she was laggy and talked weird. she also said she "cured" it with holistic medicine and weed so take from that what you will lol

@@piercetvenjoyer2003 Oh, that's a shame that he didn't acknowledge that at all. My Mum has MS and it can be very bad at times. Nothing you should just skip over, it's an very important detail.

Yes lol my exact thoughts we manifested this 😂