@@beybladefan1870after Dark Magician the other Ace’s are usually at 2000 instead, and while Stardust & Utopia both are level/rank 8/4 respectively they both require [at least] 2 materials to summon like most of the others.
@@-AirKat- ok I understand Utopia cause it's a XYZ monster but not stardust dragon cause they could have made its level 7 and also I count decode talker as playmaker ace not firewall dragon cause most of the time he would always summon a code talker link monster
If I were rich like Jeff Bezos I'd invest in hosting massive city wide Yugioh tournaments like Seto Kaiba and I'd invest in holographic technology for the cards
The illusion mechanic could also be great for character writing, maybe the protagonist doesn’t like destroying monsters or he sees them as actual creatures.
I would love a new yugioh anime focused on master duels, I'd be ok with even just a direct adaptation of OCG structures instead of something brand new even though it's more down to earth
@@nicholase82 personally link summoning as a mechanic is my favorite, shame Konami first made everyone hate it at first with MR4 ruining all other mechanics and after they fixed that mistake they just made link monster effects not interact with the arrows or depend on them as much to compensate for the shift in power(and ended up overcompensating with some cards like appolousa) turning them into basically just blue border contact fusions with a small extra restriction
I’d love to have a Yugioh series that went back to using supernatural themes.Fantasy doesn’t have to be as predominant as it was in Takahashi’s work, but post-Dark Signers Arc has ignored fantasy elements completely. And yeah, Yugioh has enough summoning mechanics; it doesn’t need more. But maybe rituals could finally get a series. Or maybe we could return to tribute summoning, or have a setting like Arc-V where multiple summoning mechanics are used.
2:13 The whole discussion of the 'newer' version of some old cards made me remember something. When I first saw Diabellstar and Flamberge Dragon, I thought they were similar to something. Turns out, with stat lines and names/type, they are just Dark Magician and Blue Eyes.
Also another point about illusions is that they were always meant to exist, being introduced in the duelist kingdom arc and appearing in quite a few of the original video games. They've just finally gotten around to making it a thing in the tcg/ocg due to the focus on updating & expanding old cards & themes.
We'll get them eventually, it seems like they're trickling out illusion retrains of all the monsters that were illusions in the games and manga... just very slowly. Personally I'm looking forward to the wall of illusion & dream clown retrains.
If it was a reboot of the DM era… I think how the plot would go would be some new villain unleashing a great evil being the Illusions and merging them into their decks to wreak havoc across the world and Only Yugi with the help of a new Illusions monster partner, would grant Yugi illusion monsters as well, so only the main villain, Yugi, and anyone who has a connection to Egypt or the Millennium Items would use Illusions, meanwhile Kaiba had recently introduced the world to Link monsters and was about to launch his VR system to the public when the Illusions start attacking, causing the launch to be delayed and Kaiba having to deal with the Illusion crisis. So Kaiba organizes another tournament in hopes of drawing out the person responsible for the illusions, defeat them in a duel, and end the illusion threat, with help from Yugi & Company
Its more likely that if we get a master duel related anime, it's probably going to be something like an Albaz anime or what have you. Modern Yugioh is about the monsters. Like, did everyone just forget how Labrynth broke Twitter for a day? Everyone was talking about or drawing fanart of her. Hell, they're STILL drawing fanart of her. If the recent animation we got for the 25th anniversary celebration is anything to go off of, its that Konami is finally beginning to capitalize on just how marketable these characters are. I mean, Konami literally has a quarter-century's worth of characters they could explore. They're already done it with Sky Striker, and they're currently doing so with Magistus. This is like if Pokemon had never made the Mystery Dungeon games until after 25 years of success. Frankly, it amazes me that they hadn't done this sooner. The closest we've had to this is Duel Terminal to my knowledge.
I'm actually SO down for a reboot that sticks to the story of the original manga, but changes the duels themselves to actually follow the irl card game rules. I would love that SO much. I'd call it "Shin Yu-Gi-Oh!" or "Yu-Gi-Oh! Shin". Then we'd see a "shin" take on GX and 5D's.
There's a subset of people who look at any deck where the core is a 2500/2000 monster and leap at, "omg new anime series soon" Which is extra funny because out of the 8 main protagonists 4 of them don't even have their main ace with the statline and 3 of them don't even have 2500 ATK on their ace.
All of their aces had that stat line, it's just that neos was introduced late (flame wingman is more an early call forward to yubel) and firewall got banned after its 2nd appearance - so vrains had to shift to just summoning firewall on VERY special occasions.
@@jaernihiltheus7817 I think zetact meant Dark Magician being 2500/2100 in stats unlike stardust, Odd eyes, etc. Firewall can barely be call an ace even in S1. It looked like they were going to managed it as a master duels mmonster so it appears mostly in those
Honestly, it would be better that another Yu-Protagonist anime doesn't show up as the Master Duel Format has been pushed as far as it can go at this point. The only direction the Anime can go now is to let itself be fully defined by the OCG/TCG itself instead of manipulating the card game from the background.
It might not be all that well known but the Illusion type is an old type from the previous version of Yu-gi-oh. It was one of those types that wasn't brought back to the current version of the game.
Yep, and a lot of the new illusions are either retrains of illusions (being made into actual illusion monsters) like chimera and tao the enchanter OR illusion monsters from the games finally being ported over like cornfield coatl, mirror swordknight, and shurinane.
they really should just do a hard reboot of the original yugioh storyline with them actually playing by the actual real world tcg rules instead of them pulling moves and card effects out of their asses and maybe even introduce the idea of banned cards that are only played by the villains when its a shadowrealm kind of a duel to stack the ods against the protag to make it more dramatic
Nightmare Magician and Apprentice don't rep Yugi tho. They rep Arkana. The other DM user who is more sick and twisted and uses the *illusion* that he plays fair, meanwhile he can stack his hand to be perfect with his fabled edge cutting technique.
You could also say the sinful spoils story is a soft reboot. It's a Dark spellcaster with the boss stats versus a dragon with rival boss' stats. We'll have to wait and see if snake-eyes flamberge comes back into the story later like how kaiba and other rivals became recurring characters.
Man, I also wanted to write a fanfic series where Illusion Magician was the ace, hell I made character decks and profiles for the mc, friend, rival, "love interest", and main villain. But man writer's block sucks
I have a similar issue with my writing, where it’s easier to think up ideas for my stories than it is to actually write, and I got some advice that has really helped me out. I needed an idea, not a structure. You’ve got all the mainstays of a Yugioh series, but do you know the story you want to tell? DM told the story of Yugi and Yami Yugi’s relationship. GX told the story of Jaden’s journey to adulthood. 5D’s told the story of strangers and enemies, separated by classism and their own unwise decisions, who became friends (ignoring everything Post-DS, which I’m not qualified to comment on anyway). I suppose “the characters duel for important reasons” is also structure. While duels will advance the plot, and maybe develop the characters, the story isn’t just about the characters dueling. What else are the characters actually trying to do?
the snake eye/diabellstar archetype also feels like a dark magician/blue eyes reference as Diabellstar the “Black Witch” (dark magician analogue) is a spell caster with the same 2500 atk and the protagonist boss monster 2000 def, while the other big monster of the deck is Snake-Eyes Flamberge Dragon (Blue-Eyes White Dragon) which is a dragon with 3000 atk and 2500 def AND the archetype still connects back to illusion monsters with diabelze.
0:34 wrong one, Bridge is the current studio behind Sevens and Go Rush, the Master Duel anime were under Studio Gallop and they dropped that trend in Vrains like they dropped the rival having a Dragon in Arc V
What annoys me, is that they keep on making Dark Magician expys and support cards for the archetype. Yet poor Summoned Skull gets little to no love, despite the fact it was Yugi's original Ace Monster. A fact that a lot of people sadly don't know about. 🙁 I really want a future protagonist with an Archfiend themed deck.
@@Player_04 yugi's GRANDFATHER's ace monster was Exodia. big distinction there. that's where the line "my grandfather's deck has no pathetic cards, Kaiba!" comes from....
Wouldn't it be his descendant instead? The dreams of the past surface in the present after Vrains tried so hard to bury their mystical roots. I had a typo with Yugi's name one time and ended up typing Yumi Moto instead. That sounds like a good protagonist name.
I’d like an anime where the protagonist returns to using mostly the main deck, instead of the extra deck. It would also be nice to dial back the futuristic and digital crap that plagued the latest series, like Arc-V and Vrains. And I like the Illusion archetype and its apparent link to Egyptian mysticism. I’m only wondering how the previous Illusionist monsters will fit into it and if there’s any synergy with spellcasters, as most if not all, Illusionist monsters are spellcasters.
For the anime explanation I thought the reboot happens in Arc. the main characters are piece of the original villain wiped out all the protagonists so that he can replace them with his OCs which each one of them replace the main characters that's why we never see Yugi, Jaden, Yusei and yuma and those OC never got involved in the main storyline no yugi means no Pharoah to battle bakura or Pegasus to save Kaiba, marlik never left Egypt or anybody going after the millennium puzzle, no Jaden means no Yubei so no issues at duel Academy inculding the 4th season , no Yusei means the signers are short staffed so Jack has to pull all the weight of dueling cuz he's not really a team leader couldn't gather all the signers, no Yuma means no key or involved with the numbers after that we get vrains and there's not a single reference of the past Yu-Gi-Oh series outside of the terrible things happened without them. All cus 5ds Created a second timeline by stopping Z-ONE and the Meklord Emperor Genocide, which is what brought the world into an apocalyptic future. That's why Yu-Gi-Oh movie with 3 of the main characters was the only movie that had that crossover. And we don't have any other movies that consist of the other main characters the bad ending of the timeline kicked in
Guys... I just finished a pilot of 3 minutes of my New animation project Its a fan animation of Yu-Gi vs kaiba in continuation of movie dark side of dimensions
I’ve long dreamed of duelist kingdom but with proper duels, decks and modern strategies. Imagine Joey getting a powerful link and then learning to summon it to win a game, him and Yugi fusing into Dragoon etc. obviously they can still put their usual anime spin to it but it’d be sooo coool!
I would not mind them rebooting the GAME. Like, why not make a more accessible version/set of rules of the game with less insane 1st turns with 10+ min. combos where you end up with your rival having 5 monsters, one of them with like 7000 attack points AND one blocking you from activating trap cards, another one preventing you from using magic cards and one more preventing you to breethe. Adding new mechanics? I honestly think they should even ban some for that hypothetical new category. Not wonder there are so many people making meme and videos of how ridiculously hard and harsh it is to get back into Yu-Gi.Oh! nowadays. Speed duels are great to play on your phone, but you can still be, literally, prevented from playing if you go second.
I think a reboot of sorts if the original could be cool, they would just have to tread carefully. The original anime is holy ground not just within the yugioh community but also the anime community and even broader because of how massive it was culturally back in the 2000s. I would like to see it, but similar to other anime reboots in the past you would really need some top notch writers and directors handling it for it to come out well. And it would be interesting to see how much they’d really be able to change before it became unrecognizable and better to just do as a different show entirely. Regardless the fact that Konami is showing more interest in the idea of making an anime based on the lore of the cards is awesome and something we really need, could be this games version of Arcane or Edgerunners which were HUGE for both of those properties even though they already were so big. Also just getting another sequel season that fallows the actual physical card game again, more in line with DM or 5Ds would be awesome to see too because you don’t necessarily need a new summoning mechanic to make a new series and they could even have a rotating or semi rotating set of decks for the main characters similar to how the real world works.
Ever since Vrains ended they have revisited legacy arch types from different generations. I had a feeling the old studio had a cool anniversary anime planned but they sadly went bankrupt 😢
Yeah I'm still struggling to enjoy modern Yu-Gi-Oh!. I don't see myself getting back into it, but I'd love to see a revival of Speed Duels as it has that classic feel to the game.
In all honesty, Nightmare Magician is a HUGE stepdown for Yugi Muto compared to Dark Magician, Nightmare Apprentice is fine but Dark Magician has Dragoon, Dark Paladin, Illusion of Chaos, Magicians' Souls, etc. Those stomp the crap outta Nightmare Magician, put him back in the bulk bin where he belongs and keep going with Dark Magician.
I have been saying since Snake Eyes that they're trying to "level the game up". Konami also just officially constructed a new animation branch of the studio and dropped that animation montage awhile back that featured characters from the cards themselves.
would love to see the concept you would make for a what if new master duel anime series focusing on an mc who uses illusions, question such as would it have yugi but redesigned for a new series or a completely new protagonist the cope for a fem mc will never end
Yup, I think it’d be fun to think about. Again, coming from Pokémon RU-vid, there’s so much “What If” kinda videos, so I couldn’t help be get a little idea.
Would be an interesting idea. Same story but different duels. But we can't just trash my boy, Dark Magician. So how about we buff the more wimpy characters of the series. Like giving Beetroopers to Weevil.
I wanna see a Yu-Gi-Oh reboot where there's a parallel conflict going on as the protagonist duel it out in the real world, like a protagonist pairing with Fallen of Albaz or Visas Starfrost. Some Fire Emblem Engage typa stuff and as they continue their journey in the real world, the "Monster dimension" is facing turmoil
Ngl, I've never heard of this reboot theory, ngl. Tbh, we dont need a reboot of the yugioh anime with current mechanics tbh. Then we'll just have the dbz problem where one Kamehameha took 3 episodes to be fired. But in yugioh, yugi's first turn takes 3 episodes. Then it's kiaba's turn for 3 episodes only for yugi to shut down any move kiaba could make for 3 turns. Then yugi just attacks kiaba directly for 2 more episodes. 🤣
or it could be that it is the 25th anniversary and they are making nostalgic things to celebrate, no, no, it must be an never seen anime reboot of course. lol
just to consider further possibility; around the same time as the Illusion typing being released was when Konami also introduced their IN-HOUSE animation studio. The only thing we've seen so far was that little trailer showcasing different archetypes/lores... Animation takes a lot of time and work. I could see a world where a) They've been working on a new YGO series in secret, or b) there could be some contractual/legal issue with the studio(s) and distributors of the previous series. I mean, Konami is notorious for keeping things hush-hush, even outside of YGO. Only time will tell, but I could see it being the case.
One thing to note is that while links are the ultimate "slop" extra deck cards, modern synchro decks being a close second, Fusion and shockingly to a lesser extent XYZs are very distinct and you could call it xenophobic or pure. I say shocking because back in the days XYZs were just generic toolbox things with honor ark, big eye, exciton, etc. This also makes it feel a bit more comfortable or old-but-newschool, as if you play a fusion deck you can more or less play it as in a distinct style without being forced to play little girls in a chimera dragon beast cool stuff deck. They also often have cool in-archetype plays and bosses instead of being baronne, borrel turbo (now banned) or apollousa, IP, SP, Accesscode slop resulting in an overall more cohesive feeling game / deck / strategy. Even the most mixed ones like invoked shadol dogmatika still feel closer to something you'd throw together from your random selection of "cool" cards as a kid, because they fit. Unlike robot dragon, flower horserider, bear riding archer, cyberpunk women and the fever dream of some IT technician. Anyways I'm rambling...
Synchro is only because of a lack of options. With Fusions it's that there's such a deluge of favoritism by Konami and so many ways to cheat the mechanic (when most don't even have the luxury of using materials that aren't explicitly on-field) that they always just run their strategy. People running DPE over Dragoon as a Verte target is an example - it's not that Dragoon is bad, it's just that there's so many broken Fusion cards that you can shift over at any moment. Like of course the mechanic that gets constantly slobbered over by the game makers will have the most options.
Did you saw contact fusion coming back on the Go Rush anime? I hope they won't start recycling the extra deck summons from old to new and stick to rush duels in anime forever. I also hope that the uncoming lore anime doesn't stop the production of the regular children's card game animes.
Alright im late to this but to feed your pokemon fanfic brain The MC could have the nightmare magician while the rival could have a level 8 wyrm with 3k.
Personally I think we could totally have a sequel series to Og Yugioh The way I see it playing out Joey is a pro duelist and the show starts with our main characters see him win a championship on Tv And we are introduced to our 2 main characters both Sons of the King of games Yugi now Game Creator Yugi His sons love playing new games with their dad and love playing duel monsters The Younger Brother’s deck is Filled with illusions and had his Ace Illusion Magician The Older brother plays a warrior deck with his Ace being a Paladin Monster of some kind After they see some Tv they go to junior high and the younger brother meets his supporting cast and a bully which will later be turned into a friend In the Background faraway Marik Ishtar gets a headache and feels there is something wrong as we then close up on coffin and it slides open and we hear a whispering that the Shadow games will return That book ends the first episode
I'm honestly pretty miffed that Illusion Magician came in to build hype and then was promptly shafted by his own archetype. It's nice that Chimera is meta and all, but come ON! We almost had Dark Magician 2.0! Now Shining Sarcophagus did kinda do that, of course, but my point still stands on Illusion Magician being shafted and basically just existing for hype.
I feel like they're building up to something at the very least. Every other time a new type was added to the game it was a big deal as usually it was the main focus of the anime weather it be a new extra deck type or just a new type in general like with psychics or cyberse. I don't see why Konami would make a new type and not try to use a new anime to promote it.
Nightmare magician design is not good enough to be an iconic anime mascot. It’s a callback to dark magician. It is not an anime reboot card. Not saying a reboot is a bad idea btw, but that artwork is weak.
3:52 i agree, Verte Anaconda has no business being a generic card and should not be legal in ANY format. its existence singlehandedly limits Design space for fusion support.
I wouldn't doubt them for rebooting yugioh, there is only so many times you make something until you run out of ideas, also people are slowly getting bored of the new stuff, even the show feels blah and so many times you can put support for an archetype, so why not
Nah i prefer Yugioh anime based lore archetype,even there a polling about that but reboot/remake DM with current mechanic summon is fine too,but(again) it will be confused for new player,look how horribel rating of VRAINS...thats why Konami make Rush Duel and Sevens in first place
There's also the new Exodia support to add to all the DM-era representation. However, Exodia being a fusion monster feels off to me. It kind of doesn't feel right to see the more mythical kinds of cards from Ancient Egypt to be extra deck cards. The Egyptian God cards being the ultimate expression of tribute summoning feels just right, for instance. Fusions feel more in line with GX, or at the very least, Battle City. Fusions feel modern, like the mass-produced card game Pegasus made, not the ancient spirits sealed inside stone tablets. Imagine if Horakhty is a fusion monster. It just doesn't feel right. That's how I feel about the new Exodia.
