UPDATE: Scan are currently running a deal where the TGM-I27FQ is currently £20 off, bringing it to £299.99: www.scan.co.uk/products/27-thermaltake-i27fq-monitor-ips-2560x1440-165hz-1ms-freesync-hdr-10001-400cd-m-hdmi-dp-g-sync-compa
Thanks for the review Dominic, I cant understand all your testing to be perfectly honest, but as a gaming panel its good. The stand I would never see so it hardly matters
Thanks, this might help! www.kitguru.net/peripherals/monitors/dominic-moass/kitguru-updates-monitor-test-methodology-with-portrait-displays-calman-ultimate/
Looks like a decent screen overall. I think most people watching Kitguru will be slightly technically clued in anyway and will tweak stuff in an OSD to their liking. seems a simple tweak to remove the pink would make it quite decent
Thanks for the review, i just bought this - its great ! the technical data you presented is great, but these screens will never score well with all those tests - for gaming its awesome, love it !
Yeah you are right, it is possible to get better results using the user colour balance in the OSD, but the inaccurate presets are my biggest criticism here
Thanks, happy to help if you have specific questions! Otherwise you can read more here: www.kitguru.net/peripherals/monitors/dominic-moass/kitguru-updates-monitor-test-methodology-with-portrait-displays-calman-ultimate/
Seems after a bit of calibration and tuning it’s actually really good. Shake the factories can’t even get a slightly better out of factory tune on them.
Thank you. A pretty comprehensive review as usual. Well done for finding the best settings for colour balance and accuracy. Does this monitor use the new Gsync chip? With regards to the issues of default colour balance and accuracy, is this something that could be resolved by a firmware update? Or is it an indication of panel variance? That's a premium price for a 1440p monitor so I would expect premium features like support for both HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 2.1. As is, is it not competing with monitors half the price?
thanks Quentin, appreciate it. It's not using any G-sync chip - the new MediaTek units won't be out until later this year, and this one is 'G-Sync Compatible' rather than using a native G-Sync module. I do think default colour balance could be improved with a firmware update, but there's always going to be some variance from panel to panel - without testing 50 more it's hard to say! Premium features I do think this screen has, like USB-C, KVM over both USB-C and USB-B. DP 2.1 isn't necessary as DP 1.4 has enough bandwidth, HDMI 2.1 would be the difference between running at 1440p 165Hz vs 1440p 144Hz, which may or may not be worth the cost.
Its not a bad first effort, some quite major issues IMO based on your calman testing - its good you can fix it, but most of us wouldnt be buying all that hardware to sort the screen out
TT have been pretty good for me over the years. this one seems like a good first effort. They just maybe need to get a better out of the factory calibration - doesnt need to be perfect, just not pink
I dont understand some of the comments about this monitor being crap, its a high refresh gaming panel at 300 pounds, its a pretty good screen for what its designed for, you dont buy it for work
How did this outcome be so positive? the worst thing you said is the stand which looks ok to me, but I watched 5 minutes of technical testing where it did terribly?
i say at 13:10 the factory calibration is the monitor's weakest area, and also that the stand is personal preference. the main appeal is clearly going to be for gamers who want the fast response time and good motion clarity and don't necessarily need a super-accurate image
Dominic if this panel shipped like this and it was being sold to an average user, is the out of the box setting acceptable for a kid gaming? Your reviews are very technical and sometimes its hard to work out if its good to use without having to spend ages tweaking everything in the OSD. A bit more real world thoughts would help balance the massive technical overload
yeah absolutely, i think that's why i gave it an 8/10 review. it's default colour balance isn't great, but it's very fast for an LCD and offers solid motion clarity. for gamers, it's a saturated and vivid panel, so even if it's not the most accurate, i don't think that necessarily matters to a lot of the market this is primarily aimed at. edit: I do also talk about the real-world experience at 12:04, i agree with you so this is always something i include in my monitor videos
Your review is a bit soft, I appreciate you can fix all this stuff yourself as you know what you are doing, but those out of the factory settings are really bad IMO, or am I wrong?
The default presets aren't great and are the main area to be improved. If that's a deal breaker for you that's fine, I think people would still be interested in the other areas though, like impressive response times and motion clarity for gaming
This looks like a good screen for the price, no LCD at 300 dollars is going to give good technical performance in some of those tests, people need to get realistic
great analysis, but I dont buy TT anymore, I had a few things fail and their partners dont honor warranty terms. I spend more now on Corsair as I know they look after customers
I have this monitor my first one was a problem but I returned it to SCAN and they replaced it and this one has been fine. for a few weeks so far anyway
Wish I could be involved in the purchasing discussions. Do you want it to be 100% accurate out of the box? Will be another 20p per unit. No thanks we’d rather have it totally inaccurate.
Ive got the Acer X34 with a similar shaped stand. It takes up most of your desk. I got rid and stuck it on the wall. You lose all that adjustment then though
you can also get some decent third party stands that have a much smaller footprint and still give you ergonomic adjustments! or something like a desk mount
£320 for an LCD with a pink tinge to the image out of the box and a lot of technical issues based on the testing. Its fast and decent for gaming. I dont think I would buy this,. thanks for review tho
I'd expect it from a professional-oriented screen that wasn't high refresh rate, but most gaming LCD screens will probably disappoint if colour accuracy is your main goal
£320 is considered cheap for this? I dont think so, id rather put another 200 quid into getting that OLED you reviewed lately. Still lets see how TT go with this in the coming months
It's important to remember monitors don't come with ICC profiles baked in (most don't at least), I guess as a newcomer it's trickier to nail first time too
I have watched this review and am a little surprised you gave it such a positive outcome - it seems to ship with one of the worst calibrations I have seen !
it's by no means perfect in this regard, but i have seen worse - and for gaming especially, i think the pros outweigh the cons. if you're looking for something for colour sensitive work, you're probably not going to be looking at a Thermaltake monitor to begin with, right?
@@KitGuruTech Sure, but are there really worse calibrations on colour than this one? It looks like the image is pink at default and I dont know if most people can fix that or have your experience. Looks like a real donkey to me. I generally love your reviews, just seems like you let Thermaltake off with a lot with this review
@@EricDavidson-cx7bz definitely, i'd say the ASRock PG27QFT2A i reviewed recently was worse out of the box, as was the iiyama GCB3480WQSU - and that's just two from the past few months! i'm not saying it's perfect by any stretch of the imagination but i do show how the colour balance can be improved with some manual tweaks, and really i'm focusing on its positives for gaming, which is surely the key audience for this monitor.
@@KitGuruTech Thank you, my bad. I have only tended to watch your OLED reviews as I am in the market for one. clearly these LCD panels are just problematic in key areas.
@@EricDavidson-cx7bz no worries - it's especially tough at this end of the market, a lot of monitors are focused on gaming/response times rather than pristine colour accuracy
Looks like its a great gaming panel - most people buying this wont care about colour calibration or gamma. its a poor audience of uneducated people as a rule
Its a fast LCD - but the calibration is crap. Is this because its for gaming and noone cares about the rest of it ? I wouldnt touch this I dont think based on your technical data
Technically that screen seem bad, everything you said is not great - seems like you need to put a lot of work into fixing it before its set up right ! surely this is worse than most, I need to watch your other reviews
I dont know what people are complaining about, all the screens around 300 bucks are poor in areas, it just looks bad in the technical testing,. some of the key issues here are not for this audience
The monitor market is becoming insanely saturated. Most likely the LCD producers trying to maximise production to amortise the investment before the switchover to OLED.
