THESE CLASSIC YU-GI-OH! FORMATS WOULD BE A LOT BETTER WITHOUT THESE CARDS! 

He really needs to see a therapist about this soul charge related trauma

Especially wild since he has deck profile videos up from this time running Soul Charge.

The fuck? It was legal that long?

I also confused it thinking it was banned in 2017 and I honestly don't remember it seeing play after 2017 so I just assumed it was banned then. I did not know it lived into vrains airing

@@kyleyuen245 it saw play in gouki extra link and ftk decks, which was... frustrating

To be fair it probably felt like a lot longer than it was because we had it on sims since its release in Japan but Konami TCG waited like 2.5 years to import it because they *knew* it would be broken and they also knew they couldn't hit it because pre-MR5 so many people wanted that card to exist so that synchros would be playable. It was definitely around for longer than it should've been and many other cards died for its sins before they finally got rid of it, but it technically wasn't as long as it felt in the TCG.

I dont think necessarily ruined. Adventure format had a lot of auororadon turbo decks and that was a fun format.

halq was fine without auradon

​@@Kevin_Anderson Halq should've joined shuttleroid imo

Halq should've had an errata where it and the tuners it summoned could not be used as Link material. Either since release, or since Konami saw how it was being used.

toss carrying whole vrains era for sure

Tier 0 Spyral, I guess. And pendulum, that could FTK you, but didn't have to. XD

@@kucukyilmert Well, TOSS was like 1/3 of the entire vrains era

Gumblar Handloop. Enjoy playing the game with 1 card.

@@sekaihunter9378 0 cards and Extra Link. XD

Card was so dumb. I would sit in vanity’s and wicked witch so I couldn’t die and opp couldn’t play 💀 idk how it stayed along for so long either. And why can I chain this card to your eff to special so you can’t 😃

Especially in ocg where vanities would probably *still* *be* *legal* if circular was never printed

The fact Vanty's is legal in the OCG until 2022 is even more astounding

There was a big chunk of time in 2016-2017 where everyone was playing TT and lots of people main decked it. I genuinely don’t feel like it was that bad for a while. Definitely deserves to stay on the list tho.

​@@ultimetacooler torrential?

I said the same thing, I could have sworn this card was banned back in 2015.

Eh as broken as gumbler is it not as bad I say summon sorcerer

@@lloydbagby8355summon sorc always felt like a win more card to me. In hands you would make it you were usually already in a winning position with that hand.

Colossus was all OVER the thread, I just didn't want to use it. For me, it was such an integral part of Thunder AND the format (Striker was VERY clearly the best deck sans Colossus Turbo) that I'd feel uncomfortable saying "the combo build of Thunder, which was arguably the worse one, is the "T" in "TOSS."

@@MBTYuGiOh True. Nats version of Crusadia Thunder Dragon was so cool though.

This also makes deck can't cheese out win game1 with main decking cards like DBarrier since it's a blank vs Mathmech. Striker won YCS exactly this way and I think it would be impossible if Circular is in the format.

i would move War Rocks and Digital Bugs to edison or an old format

I'll argue that's because it's not that sacky. It's good for sure, but there are other cards in Edison that spike way harder than Dustshoot. There are very few instances where Dustshoot on its own is gonna be a total blow-out.

@@Dramatic_Gaming nah dustshoot is extremely sacky and can 100% determine the outcome of a game and the fact it’s at 1 makes it worse. Though, 3 dustshoot in goat is also pretty annoying.

Edison revolves around many what ifs. "What if my opponent has Heavy storm? " "What if my opponent has Gorz? " What if my opponent has Ryko? " .Hand knowledge is so busted knowing you can play by ignoring specific threats. Pair it with the ability to remove a crucial normal summon/combo piece (I.e. goblin zombie) and you will make your opponent fall so behind in tempo that's really difficult for you to lose. Arguably in goat it is more okish even at 3. The pace is generally slower and you are able to recover momentum by just resolving a normal spell.

​@@Dramatic_GamingThat being said, it's only good on early game. It's a total brick in decks who dump their hand like plants or Zombies.

God that early day of master duel is just like in hell, every game you either playing againts full power drytron, floodgate eldlich and tri brigade zoodiac with milion handtrap.

@@jabermogwai5996 oh my favorite of all time. Back when I was so new to yugioh (yugi boomer returned) and getting pissed that ash blossom or imperm Insta beat junk synchron/synchrons in general

Me too. Im curious when the stream was because I’d go back to find the VOD and listen to it

Here's the link to the VOD where he talks about it and fights chat: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hhf6i0rXsfk.html

MBT already talked abt Oppression before, TLDR he would agree with u

@@magnus13245 thanks!

@@magnus13245 I love that he actually looks through the decks that have just topped the most recent tournament. Probably the easiest way to lend authority to his POV. PWWB and trap stun are often game winning if you can chain them to oppression mid-push. One stacks a dead card on top of their deck when they are going to need to contest your field. Trap stun locks the opponent under their OWN floodgate after you’ve comboed on them.

Ehhh, it depends. My issue is that it favors mostly already great decks. That being said, it's a format where Cold Wave is legal and isn't a big deal so...

That's why I don't play combo decks, like good job going -1 when you shotgunned it in response to Fish Sonar when I'm just going to normal summon Ocean Dragon Lord - Kairyu-Shin.

​@A Z too bad your deck sucks

@@AZ-rl7pg good luck with that lol

@@xXkinghosssXx I don't know it gets me to Diamond 1 just fine lol

@@xXkinghosssXx didn't someone top with it last format and only lost to time lol

Wasn't that already a problem with earlier festivals that people just played Eldlich and shit that didn't even use the ED? How haven't they fixed that problem yet?

@@youtube-kit9450 They did ban those cards last time we had the Xyz festival. Who knows why they didn't do it for this one as well.

​@@youtube-kit9450 ah yes the 1st 5 events were just true Dragco every other game.

Thankfully, an emergency banlist is gonna take care of the flying roach.

Good news, XYZ roach got sniped. Bad news, you're still playing in the XYZ festival. I figured Zoo was still one of the best decks, 4 mat Zeus and a gorillion hand traps ain't nothing to scoff at. Even if the bug went though, you've definitely got enough disruption to live for a turn.

They are limited to 1 cards, so they are not as frequent as you think.

@@duelmasteryuya1205 his math is approximately correct.

@@jamismiscreant7514 Read the comment wrong. Thanks for the correction!

@@jamismiscreant7514 We do a little bit of rounding :)

Add to that Magician of Faith is at 3 and the game is slow enough for flip monsters not to be dogshit

Not sure if the facts on that one check out

Unless you're talking about Master Duel, Vanity's has been banned for years lmao

​@@Finalblue1234 the TCG is lucky there. On the OCG, it was only banned last summer, when Circular got released and @Ignister used the Mathmech XYZ to search it.

@Finalblue1234 I did, in fact, mean MD. The fact that it was already gone in the TCG but returned for MD is just komani.

Were both legal in master duel at the same time? I thought they banned it before Floo got added.

Also Emptiness was bad because MST was literally Twin Twisters against that card. And you couldn't turn it off super easily without going neg. Eventually both of those stopped mattering.

People were also terrible at yugioh until 2014

Don't hold your breath. Superheavy Samurai will break it AGAIN

Reminds me of how old Magic was in that there was a lot of good mana acceleration and card draw spells only it didn’t really matter as the best boards to end on involved like, a 7/6 with a penalty effect that could also die to the loads of excellent removal spells in the format as well. Discard spells usually weren’t an issue because they tended to be overcosted but yeah, everyone would have played Hymn to Tourach (similar card to Duo) if it didn’t cost anything lol.

Agreed, I think Graceful and Pot are fine mostly since they don't change game state THAT much (7 cards to 6 is fine) but Duo is just a win the game card going first or even second a lot of the time. It's way too strong if you hit ANYTHING good with it and being at 4 cards to 5 with an established board matters way more than 6 cards to 7 from Pot or whatever.

​@Seven Nights 6 to 7 and 6 to 4 (while your opponents loses a card as well) is the same thing (in both cases you make card economy 17% better than your opponent's). The problem arises when your opponent resolves Duo when he is already ahead in card advantage: -Opponent has 6 cards and you have 5: by resolving POG he would shift card economy in his favour by 17%. If he resolves Duo: he passes from 6 to 5 while you pass from 3 to 5, summed up he gets a 23% advantage. -Opponent has 6 and you have 4: doing the same calcs your opponent gains 33% by Duo. On the other hand, and I'll save you the cals, when you are behind in card advantage you ALWAYS want to resolve POG instead of Duo cause the net gain is higher. That being said: POG and Duo are equally sacky depending on the game state. The thing is you can still play around Duo in some capacity (i.e. sinister serpent, Thunder dragon, Assailant) while if they resolve POG you just have to deal with it. To sum it up: Graceful>>POG>Duo. Peeking your top 3 while setting up your GY and turning it to a plus 1 thanks to Serpent, Assailant or TD makes it hands down the most sacky card in Trinity. Edit: Also filling up your GY after being hit by Duo helps Chaos a lot. Another argument in favour of POG being better.

on the contrary, i think graceful is definitely the most toxic of the three. there are so many ways to play around Duo, or to construct your deck in such a way as to minimize the EV of duo. you can play thunder dragon, night assailant or sinister serpent. you can play a deck like warrior that sets its hand. but with graceful charity, the ability to sculpt your hand, to see three deep, to convert into a plus one with the same cards that stymie duo, to set up your graveyard...this one card does WAY too much.

@@ivanmaterazzo2631 Running night assailant or TD is not "playing around Duo" it's deckbuilding and even then it is only a deckbuilding choice available to basically 1 deck, Chaos. See how many people are running night assailant and TD in Warrior or any deck that is not chaos. That's not an argument for it being worse, that's an argument for it making one deck better. Serpent at least is flexible but it's also a 1 of so saying "hopefully duo hits when you have serpent" is wishful thinking. My point was also that being down cards at the start is significantly worse than both players being up cards but having 6 or more to choose from. I would argue having 3 cards against 4 is a bigger disadvantage than 6 cards against 7, that was the whole point. You have less tools to problem solve with and less ways to hit your engine and cohesive strategy. Some decks do very well on fewer cards (Warrior) but Chaos and basically every other deck can feel really bad when you only have a few cards and can't put everything together. Generally I think Pot and to a lesser extent Graceful can definitely sack games but over the course of a long game generally both players have a good chance to see it whereas Duo is basically disastrous early game and horrible the rest of it. Not to mention ripping cards can hit key pieces (Warrior lady, Breaker, BLS, Chaos Sorc) and leave your deck without important parts which is much worse than your opponent having 1 extra card generally.

If you haven’t played Edison (I would recommend trying it) it really is only a powerful card but not even universally useful. One of the most common boss monsters in the format is caius which easily outs it or ignores it and dominates the board because it’s two sided Almost every deck can out it and Edison is a pretty slow format so they have time to find the outs plus it’s quite hard to set up otks and people just play monster removal so it being reciprocal really does matter

Just because Royal Oppression is a win con 2-3 years after Edison doesn't mean it is a win condition in Edison. Maxx C, at one point, was legal to play, and arguably a bad card against any deck that wasn't Six Sams.

MBT is literally babyraging because he didn't even try to learn the format. Tyler at TCGRewind had the patience of a saint in his reaction videos

goat format has a lot of tools to punish a less than skillful bls drop, namely ring and especially snatch steal

Also, given how they never bothered to understand the other decks in the format and thus played them like dog water still makes me think it is a good format.

Yeah, the card is a conditional draw 2 in HAT except when Soul Charge, but then again, SOUL CHARGE. That's strong, but not format-warping strong. It became busted the next format with Pendulums and Shadolls.

There are so many ways to deal with faith in goat other than noc but I do agree, opening duo dust shoot gets old really quick

It took them a year and a half to ban it. If you weren’t summoning it on your opponent’s turn, you were using it to stop your opponent from interrupting your ftk

Special summoning is how the game became solitaire in the first place. Getting rid of it is just one step among many if you want the game to be a 2 player game again.

Dark armed dragon was a ridiculously expensive single back in the day.

The fact that almost all of the relevant hand traps are UR told me all I needed to know when starting master duel.

MBT didn't say that, he was reading the person that posted that twitter post said it. Associating albatrosses with bad luck or bad signs is a relatively common metaphor. It's like calling a black cat a bad luck sign, it's just a common figure of speech. Both this post and the hearthstone card are just 2 out of literally thousands of similar references to the 200+ year old poem The Rime of the Ancient Mariner.

Because no one even plays Cold Wave in Edison format. Like Opression Edision is just the right pace the card simply isn't that good. Heavy Storm is way stronger.

For context in the last large online Edison tournment (Deck Devistators 3) one deck in the top 12 mained Cold wave and one mained Oppression. Thats it.

@@ducky36F or you run both

@@KindredFenrir And then loose to normal summon Caius :P

​​@@ducky36FThere are some decks who play Cold Wave, most notably Lightsworms... who are amazing against backro anyways so is more of an assurance for specific decks than an actual great card.

Then title it something super clickbait like "Oppression is good actually"

You can hear the gist of his argument in the vid. He's trying to argue that Edison has enought swing cards to get rid of it or flip it back, but that doesn't really pan out. There's just as many ways to protect Oppression as there are to pop it, and even if you do clear your opponent's board, as long as Oppression is up, at best you can only go even with your opponent rather than actually getting ahead.

They did. MBT replied to someone saying why he didn’t include it.

Yes, but only at 1. Being searchable with the equip spell support, especially Power Tool Dragon, is VERY dangerous. And even at 1, the trap card that can equip it from deck turns into a quickplay change of heart wich can be dangerous.

I kind of feel ya. Then again, I dislike the Tear format because I hate most of the principal archetypes of the format. But Bystial and Kashtira are really high up there.

Bystials being quick effects were a massive mistake. If they were just cool extenders for Dragon Link and Branded they'd be way more tolerable.

I hate the design of bystials and really feel they limit what decks are able to be good, but also take that raye