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@journcy
@journcy 4 месяца назад
I'm not usually a Commander Clash viewer, but I found myself watching through this whole episode. I really like the change to Spelltable for this season, somehow it makes the battlefield way more readable to me.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 месяца назад
Glad you liked it!
@gzzuss
@gzzuss 4 месяца назад
That's probably because they are calling the cards and a big one pop on the screen when casted! 😅
@tardmonkey7319
@tardmonkey7319 4 месяца назад
Yeah, shoutout to the editor
@allenjohnson7355
@allenjohnson7355 4 месяца назад
Spelltable forever please.
@SmashPortal
@SmashPortal 4 месяца назад
As someone who's been watching Commander Clash for a long time, it's actually making it less watchable for me.
@kurowasanabe
@kurowasanabe 4 месяца назад
Phil getting free Eldrazi twice in a row, First on Cardmarket and now here. He is truly blessed by the Eldritch Gods of Magic.
@Tinnituss
@Tinnituss 4 месяца назад
card market scripts their games lol
@MrGrovak
@MrGrovak 4 месяца назад
I think the best part of the paper games is the edited games are a little shorter and easier to watch in one sitting while still getting the best banter from the crew. Great game though.
@brendanpulsford
@brendanpulsford 4 месяца назад
Phil's surprised smile and thumbs up when Crim said he's gonna trust Phil was the highlight for me
@SupernaturalSpectrum
@SupernaturalSpectrum 4 месяца назад
Seth playing a no one wins deck over excessive card draw or panharmonicon shenanigans was exactly what I needed this morning. Thanks guys! Awesome episode!
@toolittletoolate
@toolittletoolate 3 месяца назад
Him then winning with his no-win deck was poetic justice that I wasn't ready for.
@laytonjr6601
@laytonjr6601 2 месяца назад
@@toolittletoolate Crim killed everyone including himself
@iiGiacomo
@iiGiacomo 4 месяца назад
I respect Crim for the “mental health counterspell.” Sometimes it is the correct choice
@Discarabsnation3187y
@Discarabsnation3187y 4 месяца назад
Man the in person play is such a massive improvement its not even funny. One of my biggest issues with some of the older videos was that a good 40ish minutes of them were just waiting for Magic Online to resolve all the triggers, but, with that gone, it's gotten so much better. Liked and clicked the bell.
@JRBissett
@JRBissett 4 месяца назад
Absolutely loving the in person play! It’s been easy for me to follow, even though I’m not familiar with all of the cards and such. Great job to the editor and team!
@amisanthropicman
@amisanthropicman 4 месяца назад
I think they're on video chat, recording four separate videos of their paper game and combining them. Props to the editor, who combined 8 shots in total when you count the video of their faces.
@darthsnarf
@darthsnarf 4 месяца назад
Crim and Richard, father and son, matching playmats They must have had a 2 for 1 at the toys r us on playmats
@adamhenwood1114
@adamhenwood1114 4 месяца назад
Seeing game length 45 minutes: “oh god Phil is gonna combo off isn’t he”
@joshuaboniface
@joshuaboniface 4 месяца назад
Or Seth succeeds at a draw. Now I'm morbidly curious.
@jackl8025
@jackl8025 4 месяца назад
nah just Nekusar things
@RyanEglitis
@RyanEglitis 4 месяца назад
More just good editing and not waiting for MTGO triggers
@noahfriedrich4686
@noahfriedrich4686 4 месяца назад
Flashing opposition agent into your own humility to chump block another 1/1 is next level
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 4 месяца назад
Playing Humility so that your Opposition Agent can enter untapped so that it can flash block despite there being a Thalia Frog out is also next level
@allnightgamer792
@allnightgamer792 4 месяца назад
I greatly appreciate that, even though Tomer is out this season, CLASH ON STILL LIVES ON!!!!
@djbisson9819
@djbisson9819 4 месяца назад
Holy crap Batman when did you switch to paper? So happy I clicked on this vid and made this discovery! May have to go back and find the switch so I can catch up. Much prefer paper magic to digital. Clash On!
@davidhansen5067
@davidhansen5067 4 месяца назад
The switch happened last week, the first episode of the current season.
@djbisson9819
@djbisson9819 4 месяца назад
@@davidhansen5067 thank you kind sir
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 месяца назад
It started last episode!
@MartianTechnoDonut
@MartianTechnoDonut 4 месяца назад
Dude, the celebration sound for the winner is just perfect :'D
@MstrKipper
@MstrKipper 4 месяца назад
I realized that we can actually get new precon content since the games are paper which I think is pretty sick Perhaps we can also do Doctor Who upgrades at some point? 👀
@metalclaw149474
@metalclaw149474 4 месяца назад
i like the in person style this season, particularly all the edits of playercam and card descriptions, since i dont really know any new cards im finding myself more engaged in the match in general, mtgo would be so rigid with gamepieces and priority id often tune out on complicated games. if this hive mind teferi happened on mtgo i likely wouldve turned off, but the editting for it here was very entertaining
@Lattle828
@Lattle828 4 месяца назад
Good content as always. I hope you guys do a stats episode though, they are always my favorite to watch and to go back to and see how your card tastes change over time.
@oneguy637
@oneguy637 4 месяца назад
Seconding this
@whoopsmymeds
@whoopsmymeds 4 месяца назад
Crim's doubletake at 38:27 is GOLD
@alaraplatt8104
@alaraplatt8104 4 месяца назад
38:22 for better comedic timing
@silentsnake96
@silentsnake96 4 месяца назад
I love Phil just actually using a banned card in commander 😂 not just banned at your lgs
@bondeulv
@bondeulv 4 месяца назад
Which one?
@copycat2696
@copycat2696 4 месяца назад
Coalition Victory@@bondeulv
@anamedninja5536
@anamedninja5536 3 месяца назад
@@bondeulv Coalition Victory is on the ban list
@laytonjr6601
@laytonjr6601 2 месяца назад
@@anamedninja5536 If your commander isn't a 5 color creature it's a lot harder to win with coalition victory (but why would you put it in the deck then)
@CentaurionArcher
@CentaurionArcher 4 месяца назад
Whoosh and sound effects are a better volume this week. Thanks for the video!
@TheGorick
@TheGorick 4 месяца назад
Play a second one if its so short! Also loved that Seth actually brought a deck that can't win... and won with it... crim and seth team up continues? :p
@Varler_
@Varler_ 4 месяца назад
That was a really fun game! I love seeing these games where salty cards are played but no one gets salty.
@stevomac102
@stevomac102 4 месяца назад
I have not watched CC in a long while. Coming back and seeing beautiful cardboard on tabletop instead of clunky MOTO was such a pleasant surprise. Loved it guys
@kkplx
@kkplx 7 дней назад
that was the most fascinating episode i've seen you play. GREAT job by you and your editor.
@godtiermtg
@godtiermtg 4 месяца назад
Personally, I prefer the MTGO setup for Commander Clash. It’s nice having a channel that’s unique in the landscape of countless paper gameplay channels.
@Princeofseance
@Princeofseance 4 месяца назад
Homogenization due to monetary pressure is sad to see
@zaclock-4228
@zaclock-4228 4 месяца назад
This new season explains why in a normal play group, you cannot strictly count on fog meta to win a game. Most players playing red or black will build their deck in a way that can win outside of combat.
@andrueurbane7361
@andrueurbane7361 4 месяца назад
Count on no. But man that was a sick memorable play.
@SleepTight7474
@SleepTight7474 4 месяца назад
The transition to spell table games has been amazing for Commander Clash. I hope this is something you guys plan to continue doing for the foreseeable future.
@valgeir80
@valgeir80 3 месяца назад
Everyone yapping at the same time while a player is taking and explaining actions, is super fun to listen to.
@shanedutton888
@shanedutton888 4 месяца назад
Loving the paper gameplay! Missed triggers are worth the shorter games to me.
@Maverickstyg
@Maverickstyg 3 месяца назад
I love this visual format. Editing is on point
@TMidander
@TMidander 4 месяца назад
Great theme, and I really like the editing :) Especially the T Pro fade out
@JR-xv6mv
@JR-xv6mv 4 месяца назад
This was, interestingly, some of the better content you guys have posted! It's actually fun watching broken magic rather than jank.
@lukecraig4984
@lukecraig4984 4 месяца назад
Absolutely love this format of commander clash!
@rosavanopheusden5211
@rosavanopheusden5211 4 месяца назад
the editing on this is still off the charts! if I can make a suggestion, it would be nice to see the casting costs noted next to the commanders, rather than just the color identity
@Arcadious10
@Arcadious10 4 месяца назад
Love the show, I just miss seeing everyone’s hands. It gave insight on all the bluffing, and internal analysis. Hopefully we get another episode of the team vs others. Thanks for the content!
@RyanEglitis
@RyanEglitis 4 месяца назад
Much tighter play this week - well done everyone, especially with that boardstate.
@Cloudy573
@Cloudy573 4 месяца назад
Love seeing Phil use the ODY 346 mountain! That's my favorite one.
@etten4536
@etten4536 4 месяца назад
Something that could be good would be to include the cost of the commander where it’s name is, and also add the commander tax each times it’s cast
@jonart8433
@jonart8433 4 месяца назад
Another reminder that Blood Moon is casual in a casual playgroup. Run it my dudes.
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock 4 месяца назад
I wish more people would play Blood Moon and Back to Basics. I pretty exclusively play mono-black and I wish that people would do things that help mono-color decks. Like one time on mtgo I played a game against mono-white, mono-red and a WUBRG deck, the red player jammed bloodmoon and the other three decks just stomped the non_basic.manabase deck.
@Bongus_Bubogus
@Bongus_Bubogus 4 месяца назад
Imagine doing that to someone running the Jared precon 💀
@54SCV8
@54SCV8 2 месяца назад
With all of the mana rocks available nowadays, you are slowed but not completely out of the game. If your deck has no single target permanent spot removal, you should really reconsider your deck building
@tierfunmtg
@tierfunmtg 4 месяца назад
This format is good. My only complaint is that, like in every other paper EDH show on the internet, people miss triggers and fail to properly observe the rules. I also can't see the hands. How many times have you guys puzzled over why MTGO did something only for the editor to note that none of you understood the interaction properly? Maybe y'all can spin off a new MTGO show for people who enjoyed the old client.
@2d_spartan
@2d_spartan 2 месяца назад
You 100% seem like the rules lawyer at the lgs who isn’t even a judge but acts like one.
@alexfrank594
@alexfrank594 4 месяца назад
This was a really fun game! Lots of weird interactions and I loved the deck concepts. Now I'm gonna be That Guy: Teferi's protection says your life total can't change. At around 32 minutes, Richard cast Vampiric Tutor after casting Teferi's Protection. If it still worked like the original wording "Pay 2 life, tutor a card" he actually wouldn't be able to cast it at all since Teferi's Pro prevents you from paying life. Luckily oracle texts makes losing the 2 life no longer a cost, so it turns into all upside. Richard should have been able to tutor without losing the 2 life.
@lutherturk5375
@lutherturk5375 4 месяца назад
If everything is phased out, he shouldn't be able to cast VT. No lands to tap for mana. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something... 🤔
@alexfrank594
@alexfrank594 4 месяца назад
@@lutherturk5375 He floated all his mana before casting TefPro. So he still had the mana for VT in his pool.
@lutherturk5375
@lutherturk5375 4 месяца назад
@@alexfrank594 Does Rule of Law phase out so he can cast 2 spells then?
@alexfrank594
@alexfrank594 4 месяца назад
@@lutherturk5375 I'm pretty sure that's the case yeah. 1. Float mana 2. Cast and resolve TefPro, rule of law phases out with everything else 3. Cast VT
@qubingjianshen8210
@qubingjianshen8210 4 месяца назад
Vampiric Tutor is lose 2 life, not pay 2. So he can cast it for just 1 mana without losing life since his lifetotal can not change.
@joebob1533
@joebob1533 4 месяца назад
You guys should do an episode where you use commanders not available on MTGO, like UB, backgrounds, or commander product stuff
@alexliang1040
@alexliang1040 4 месяца назад
Props for the TPro overlay effect!
@florenttristan244
@florenttristan244 3 месяца назад
Thank you guys. I was happy to see you all get banned and play savoury cards. I really enjoy that you record paper games. I feel that the passing priority on Magic Online is really killing the pace of the game on 4 players.
@henrye3935
@henrye3935 4 месяца назад
I LOVE Wars Toll. I used to play it alongside Magus of the Tabernacle and Ghostly Prison, so - if you want to keep your creatures you can't attack, if you want to attack you can't keep your creatures.
@cloudroth6
@cloudroth6 4 месяца назад
Thsr past two commander clahses have been awesome. It feels like everyone is having more fun
@magnus6147
@magnus6147 4 месяца назад
I love this! I get that it’s harder to build paper decks but modo is so slow with the priority passes. What’s your setup with lighting and desk cams?
@ericfletcher7046
@ericfletcher7046 4 месяца назад
Phil should include as many cards as possible that flip from the top. First the Cardmarket video and now this. He could probably even beat Crim's blind Counterbalance record.
@ryanpena7327
@ryanpena7327 4 месяца назад
I think I prefer this over moto. Not only do you avoid the moto crashes and stuff, but moto tends to be slower overall when everyone has to say ok to every play and you see every trigger have to go on the stack. Sure you might make more mistakes but I think that can add to the fun! Keep up the fun content!
@alkhemia23
@alkhemia23 4 месяца назад
only issue is they have a far less diverse card pool since they get all cards on MTGO for free unless they start using proxies
@wesleywyndam-pryce5305
@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 2 месяца назад
man i wanna play with phil, the man never complains and never bullshits
@Skylersuzy
@Skylersuzy 4 месяца назад
Great content guys
@omnomnomnath415
@omnomnomnath415 4 месяца назад
The red Ojer with Nekuzar is pretty insane, would've loved seeing it on board. Add Pain Magnification with those 2 for extra salt.
@danielborkowski291
@danielborkowski291 4 месяца назад
Seth's "Clash On" frustration is everything. Glad that he now understands Tomer's struggle.
@malmasterson3890
@malmasterson3890 4 месяца назад
I saw ThalRog and immediately clicked, then read the title and realized, "Oh dear, it appears I'm being called out." I built my ThalRog deck in a very fun way though. Lot's of stuff to give my opponents goodies & battles, no other hatebears, and then obviously some landocrats stuff paired with +1/+1 counters for the win condition.
@Bigtasty63
@Bigtasty63 3 месяца назад
Wait does Esper Sentinel still trigger while you’re T Proed? I did not know this and have been missing card draw in some spots?
@theturnonescoop9626
@theturnonescoop9626 4 месяца назад
Love the switch to paper
@JalebJay
@JalebJay 4 месяца назад
The decks I'm afraid to run did their work. I love it
@evanprimeau3810
@evanprimeau3810 3 месяца назад
I can confirm, I've never been saltier in Commander than when someone brought a Draw Turbo deck to our LGS's Friday Night Commander tournament just to knock the whole table out of contention and make sure no one got to go on to the finals table. At the Rule 0 discussion, the rest of us decided to play more casual decks, and this guy said, and I quote, "This deck has a few infinite combos, but they don't win the game", without elaborating that the goal was the nuke the whole game turn 4 and end everyone's fun. I lost an immense amount of respect for that person, that day, and I WILL spite target them at any table they bring that deck to, even at the cost of the game for myself.
@KILOWATTE
@KILOWATTE 4 месяца назад
I love these camera works so much more than playing online :) keep up the good work guys
@wafflehaxxx
@wafflehaxxx 4 месяца назад
Nice, finally some gameplay that represents an average day at my LGS.
@LordDrieg
@LordDrieg 4 месяца назад
4:00 I can't even read some of that handwritten list in the right image. Dunno if it's the redditor's white board or the LGS's but whomever it belongs to, freaking print out your banlist in standard, legible type so people can read it without struggling. 😵
@Thaelkor
@Thaelkor 4 месяца назад
Phil is hilarious. Seth and Phil mid-game banter is great.
@NyahBoyOwO
@NyahBoyOwO 15 дней назад
Run more counters, mulligan to have interaction and a combo piece or tutor in your hand. The deck mulligans really well and can go down to 5 without issues. Is easy to fall on the trap of pursuing a lot of ramp in the deck in your opening hand, while it can be good, remember you want to combo ASAP.
@OvAeons
@OvAeons 4 месяца назад
Am i missing something? Wasn't hive mind still out when wheel of misfortune was cast?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 4 месяца назад
It was, maybe we should have explained it better, but basically everyone except Crim picked 0 for all the copies so they wouldn't have to wheel (and die to all of Crim's enchantments). Crim picked 1 for one copy to wheel and then 0 for the rest.
@Regalas788
@Regalas788 4 месяца назад
Did rule of law and hive mind phase out? I miss mtgo because rules interactions worked like 99% of the time.
@mac_arthurluu
@mac_arthurluu 4 месяца назад
~ Love this!
@Guevon_Pajaro
@Guevon_Pajaro 4 месяца назад
Whoa! I didn't see the IRL CC coming!!
@a7wingedsheep
@a7wingedsheep 4 месяца назад
I love this episode! Hive mind and Humility are some of the most fun cards to me.. ... Am i the baddie?
@Spirited_skiing
@Spirited_skiing 4 месяца назад
This is one of the best themes ever, it’s so funny
@RuneRaged
@RuneRaged Месяц назад
Funnily enough, because of how my group dose our own ban list for Commander, we dont play by the Commander Rules Committee set of Rules
@rexone9564
@rexone9564 4 месяца назад
Oh, paper magic AND a reasonable game time. Watching for sure!!
@Pazlum
@Pazlum 4 месяца назад
i love this style of playing over moto
@themagicgeek4765
@themagicgeek4765 4 месяца назад
I'm not sure if it would've mattered in the long run, but Richard Vamp Tutored after the T Pro. He shouldn't have lost 2 life from the tutor as his life total can't change. Also, you don't take commander damage under Teferi's Protection as you have protection from everything.
@smack80
@smack80 13 дней назад
are Crims lands not phased out so he doesnt get any avenger of zendikar tokens?
@Strakneus
@Strakneus 4 месяца назад
At 29:40 doesnt everyone get to wheel from all the Wheel of Misfortune copies since when you all choose 0, nobody technically choose the lowest number? So the table would take all the damage from the Spitefull Visions and all that?
@tierfunmtg
@tierfunmtg 4 месяца назад
Each player who didn't choose the lowest number wheels. That means if you choose 0, necessarily the lowest number, you will never wheel.
@Strakneus
@Strakneus 4 месяца назад
@@tierfunmtg oh, my bad.... the text still gets me sometimes.😅
@AlthalusKanemtg
@AlthalusKanemtg 4 месяца назад
Im curious, what made the MTG Goldfish crew change to paper? Was it due to the flexibility of cards and avoiding MOTO problems?
@mct685
@mct685 4 месяца назад
i think they said it mainly had to do with so many cards they want to try not making it to modo
@tomfisher6422
@tomfisher6422 Месяц назад
Currently, my LGS has only one banned card: Thassa's Oracle. It was hilarious that the deck that was only there to force a draw ended up winning...
@ursulcx299
@ursulcx299 4 месяца назад
Question, wouldn't the mindslaver stay because it's phased out my teferi's protection or am I missing something?
@Niuttuc
@Niuttuc 4 месяца назад
The Teferi's Protection is cast in response to the activation of Mindslaver targeting Richard. Since sacrificing Mindslaver is part of the cost of activating its ability, it was already in the graveyard when Teferi's protection was cast (and resolved)
@ursulcx299
@ursulcx299 4 месяца назад
@@Niuttuc Rightio, thank. I misremembered it as "Then sacrifice it"
@maahirashid5385
@maahirashid5385 4 месяца назад
Crimothy and the Codfather rocking the same mat.
@RumpledNutskin
@RumpledNutskin 4 месяца назад
I've never been more excited to see Richard play a deck! MLD is right up his alley (Edit: and mine as well)
@davidgiroux8789
@davidgiroux8789 4 месяца назад
That was a super cool game !!
@peterelpanda304
@peterelpanda304 3 месяца назад
Can I Get Richard deck list? im trying to make the same deck but it doesnt work
@DCode504
@DCode504 4 месяца назад
We didn't really get to see Richard's and Seth's deck do anything. How come we didn't see a game 2 with such a short game? Is recording in real time much more time consuming? Or are you aiming for shorter run times now?
@jcdb2582
@jcdb2582 4 месяца назад
This is one of the more enjoyable games ive watch in a minute for laughs. Comparable to slivermania 😂
@ishotthepilot2904
@ishotthepilot2904 4 месяца назад
Love yalls channel and yall are by far my favorite commander group I watch. This was a great game and it was entertaining to see Seth get somewhat “angry” for once at his own spells. I think Spelltable is nice to shake things up on occasion, but it is not my preferred way of viewing. MTGO it is much easier to distinguish between cards, see where they are placed, and it also allows you see player’s hands. It’s not always intuitive to follow what’s going on in spelltable.
@Y00bi
@Y00bi Месяц назад
Phil should've tutored for those instants though, Humility doesn't stop things like that iirc.
@cameronmoerer6244
@cameronmoerer6244 24 дня назад
Does rule of law not stop seth from casting the copied teferi's pro since he can only cast one spell per turn?
@ParfaxGaming
@ParfaxGaming 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately I am really not a fan of the spelltable version.
@davidwipperfurth8465
@davidwipperfurth8465 4 месяца назад
So Spicy, I think I need Pepto! Keep playing these cards so we don't have to.
@joeytuney4197
@joeytuney4197 4 месяца назад
Richard backing the fog meta!
@moralessanchezoscarelias6412
@moralessanchezoscarelias6412 4 месяца назад
Love the face cams!
@jamesbeanmachine857
@jamesbeanmachine857 4 месяца назад
Crim's deck is too sweet this week!
@orrfannut9527
@orrfannut9527 4 месяца назад
I love salty games lol! My play group has land destruction players, mindslaver players who will recur it from the graveyard with muldrotha, Zacama turbo ramp and Eldrazi enjoyers. I have a mono black deck with both dictate of erebos and grave pact, running creatures like fleshbag marauder and demons disciple. I run a bunch of reanimation to do it every turn so I'm the only person with creatures on the board and top it off with big flying beaters to swing for 10-20 each turn
@TheNegoneco
@TheNegoneco 2 месяца назад
Richard should not have lost 2 life from vamp tutor, since he was under the effect of Teferi's Protection.
@realroliver
@realroliver 2 месяца назад
Came here to say this. "Your life total can't change"
@DaxRaider
@DaxRaider 4 месяца назад
because no armagedon was played we still need an episode with land destructions xD
@PolGamesOnTwitch
@PolGamesOnTwitch 4 месяца назад
Where is the link of the Nekusar deck?
@DanG626
@DanG626 4 месяца назад
🥇 Perfect Content Award 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@CompetitiveEDH
@CompetitiveEDH 4 месяца назад
Turn 9 Richard should have stayed at 27 for the vamp tutor as he waited for the t pros to resolve with floating mana.
@winssports4830
@winssports4830 4 месяца назад
Lol Seth winning this game was crazy. Richards Teferi's pro backfired hard lol.
@coincidenceXtheory
@coincidenceXtheory 4 месяца назад
Not just that... richards Teferi combined with Phil's hive mind combined with Crim's wheel (combined again with Phil's hive mind). It was a group effort.
@joshuacapps6717
@joshuacapps6717 4 месяца назад
Wow this video made me pro Crim. Dude kinda cool now
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