- These four dangers could end our world | Jared Diamond | SVT/TV 2/Skavlan 

First read Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond and was impressed by his work. So much to unpack in that interview, but every time I hear an intellectual like Jared Diamond speak, I feel a little bit better about humans - and a little worse.

Geography has so much to contribute with its focus on how people interact with their environment and each other.

Are you a pessimist? No, I am a realist. And this Man is talking reality. After listening more then once to this interview, the tree example is explanation enough. For me.

When I read about Easter Island in "Collapse" I realized we're doing the same damn thing, only this time on a global scale. We're racing against each other to cut down the last tree.

Now at 51 I’m extremely cautious and have done some crazy shit in my youth.

Oh my word what another quality interview - thank you Skavlan. So informative and thought provoking. The added bonus was Mr Diamond's analysis on Finland's approach during the war. As a Finn I was proud to be listening to him bringing it up to the wider audience. Can't wait for the next brilliant Skavlan interview. All the best from Ina

An apt description of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. I will myself to keep from being terrified and to use the time I have on this planet to better myself and those around me.

Honestly, Skavlan is my go to RU-vid channel. I wish more than anything it was available on USA TV. The quality of programming (look here is Jared Diamond) is exceptional! It’s learned and in-depth, not silly or useless. Thank you.

His book subjects are fascinating, imo. Enjoyed the interview. Thank you.

Skvalan is top class Cracking work Mr S And Jared is a multi-genius

The problem arises when your "neighbors" come knocking on your bunker door.

Jared Diamond has a fascinating viewpoint on history and geography. I’ve read all his books , this is the first time I’ve seen him interviewed. It was great, thank you.

I enjoyed this conversation with the great Prof Diamond. Would have loved to hear more!

Facinating! I love this stuff! Diamond is genius.

that is what i told a friend today over the phone, if you are so afraid , why don't you built a bunker ? he is a pessimist, I am optimist. walking around now with my third pacemaker for 20 years.....

Jared is a brilliant man who finds "reality" through his researches. I read all of his books more than once. Seems like a real nice man, too. I liked your show and subscribed with the "ringing" bell!

What a treat!

Thank you Skavlan.. absolutely brilliant interviews..so much informative

Excellent!!! Thank you!!!!

I was camping near Twisp, WA, and I heard a loud sound. I looked up, and I saw the branch of an evergreen tree waving in the air. This was not very interesting, but I thought that I might check it out. To my unbelief, a large evergreen tree had just toppled over. The base was just a foot and a half high, where the tree had separated itself from it’s base. The rest of the tree was on the ground. About 50 feet of it. All I know is that there was a lot of red in the stump of that tree. It was a totally calm day. No wind at all. I could not believe it. I looked, and to be sure, small bushes were crushed under the newly fallen tree. Take from this what you will, I am still puzzling about it.

Interesting that he talks about contructive paranoia! Dalí wrote an essay about critical paranoia. It's a very helpful concept.

Constructive paranoia - what a nice wording.

As a fellow Los Angeleno, I’d love to hear more about his bunker. We can’t use generators in high density residential areas. So, is he using a Tesla solar battery to power the bunker? Storing enough water to sustain two people for two months (with a 20+ year shelf-life) that is affordable to hard to find. What brand and type of container did he choose to use? How does he secure and cool his bunker? Air conditioning would require at least one Tesla solar battery dedicated just to that alone. With the “big one” on the horizon, we can never be prepared enough

Lovely !

I grew up in the early forties shortly after World War II ended. I am living in 20/20 and never thought I would think my childhood years now seem like a dream and I.appreciate and so miss those times that today my children can’t even imagine the difference and describing it to them, they find it quite boring which was not the case in those years at all!!! I now realize how fortunate I was!!!

No one who ever existed or who exists now has ever truly been free.Thàt is because no one consulted us before being placed in this thing called life. Also, most of what happens to us in life is out of our control. I do not worry about those things. One of the few things that we DO control is our reaction to the things that happen to us. Thus, my reaction to this video is simply not to worry about it.

My wife & I both read "Guns, Germs and Steel" and "Collapse", and we learned a ton of important things from this wise intellect. Glad to hear that he has a bunker and has given some thought to the threats to life & limb that his environment contains. Once upon a time, both Boy Scouts & Girl Scouts learned a thing or two about always being prepared. Preparedness is just an intelligent response in anticipation of what is essential to have on hand during a future crisis or emergency. Dumb people and pre-occupied people are the ones who probably could have prepared for emergencies but were either too oblivious or too distracted to take any proactive precautions. My wife & I each have an N95 mask, surgical gloves and even a homemade UVC Sterilizer because we prepared for the probability of a future pandemic years ago. It doesn't really take a degree in epidemiology to know that the conditions for pandemic outbreaks are rampant in many regions of the world, and, sooner or later, modern transportation will bring the contagion right to your front door. How could people be so cavalier with their lives that they won't use their God-given intelligence to make even the most basic emergency preparations? Do they think that manna & N95 masks will simply fall from Heaven when they desperately need them...

I live on a boat, with 4 other guys on the dock. I Always keep 20 to 30 gallons of potable water, Accessible. Anytime I need to leave, I leave. No questions asked.

Thank You! Very nice, kara

Loved his book Upheaval.

Helpful thinking

"Sustainable" is an interesting concept.

Japan resident of 37 years (from the U.S.) and former 'eclectic' Associate Professor speaking here. I am a fan or Jared Diamond, and bought both the paperback version and Kindle version of 'Collapse'. A couple of points regarding the talk here: 1 - Risks to humanity as a species ... nuclear, climate, resource depletion, inequality ... as Prof. Diamond correctly pointed put, are all limited to our self-destructive potential. But 'cautious optimism,' because we face none of the threats that caused extinction of species in the past such as super-volcanoes, astroids, sudden polar shift, etc.? I'm just wondering what makes our second of the geological time scale so exceptional? 2 - Although I often refer to Prof. Diamond's great final paragraph about the failed Norse Greenland colony in 'Collapse', if I am not mistaken, one distinction I did not see in the book were dysfunctions of societies directly correlated with scale. Three socio-psychological constructs that I've found useful in understanding our self-destructive tendency includes 'Dunbar's Number' ... the correlation between prefrontal cortex size and the number of people we can relate to as unique individuals, the roots of morality as being grounded in empathy between social species (Frans de Waal), and the consistent, small, but salient percentage of 'dark-triad' personality types in any population ... the narcissists, machiavellian opportunists, and morphologically defined psychopaths. Although we all fall somewhere on a spectrum of behaviors associated with those traits, a few people are genetically predisposed to behave more consistently on that end of the spectrum ... rather than more nurturing or altruistic behavior. Just a guess, but in triangulating between those three above variables, population size might be directly correlated with corruption due to the increased opportunity niches for the steady percentage of 'dark triad' personality types in any population. I am guessing the greater the empire, the harder the fall ... and as a species, we may have already reached a tipping point ... not unlike that failed Norse colony in Greenland.

Ropes,clothing etc. Can be made out of hemp,even henry ford had made a car out of hemp and was going to mass produce when American President Roosevelt said build me airplane bombers instead, which he did.a man recently built a one off hemp car,he had to send to China for hemp fabric. Completely sustainable.

Trusting paranoia = trusting your intuition and gut feeling.

Such a pleasure 💜❤️🧡💚💛💋

Experience is the greatest teacher.

Is that a landline and an electronic pencil sharpener I see on the side table there...?

Jared insights, again, are amazing and helpful. The interviewer should improve his delivery of questions.

Shared.

Very good

Usually a crisis is for most people, opportunity only for a few, in China as elsewhere. The Japanese invasion and occupation of China during WW2 was a bloody crisis for the Chinese people, but opportunity for the Chinese Communist Party, which gained power after the war, as Mao himself reportedly admitted.

Whether something is a "crisis" or an "opportunity" is dependent on the point of view of the participant.

I finished Collapse~ a short time ago. One of the best damn books I've ever read, and I read lots of different stuff. Diamond can make it interesting, like a mystery or adventure . . There is so much in that book that we need to get through our heads, collectively I mean, and we're running out of time.

Questions... great site... love the discussions. Please notice, these identified, so called crisis and risks, are part of an economy that has always and still is, being privately manipulated. Countries don't just decided to put themselves at risk... its forced upon them (in most cases) its because they're being targetted for minerals, precious metals or fossil fuels that another country needs economically. Divisions of education have been systematically delivered to enable years of economic manipulation, like in Africa, middle east and Venezuela. All these divisions, such as differing education, the building of walls, media control, religion etc etc... these are what cause hatred and economic disaster that we see as nuclear war, viruses, civil unrest etc etc. My question is... we have put our security and trust in people that are supposed to be THE best educated people on the planet... yet we find ourseves here, today, in this nightmare, why? Is it not time to identify the core parts of the economy that breeds distrust, hatred and above all shellfish corruption and wealth consolidation leading to genocide, social risk and war. 30 million Africans have died unnecessarily, over the last 20 years? War, bombs and bullets have been flying since 1945, why? Is this Dunning Kruger or just immoral use of power for a very small percentage of the population. Why does this continue? Its my view that if we ALL worshiped the planet instead of the sky, heaven would be here now on earyh for all to enjoy. At the moment, due to thoughts of ignorance, some cultures feel they are intrinsically better humans than others due to religion and education. This is THE root of the problem. Ignore this and we continue to be at risk... FEAR!! the great controller. Its utterly repugnant. Unity is key, No?

People have the power to change.

Inequality always existed. It was 'sustainable 50 years ago'? Because people in poor countries didn't know? It was because NOBODY knew how rich the rich actually are and how poor the poor are. It wasn't sustainable then and it isn't now. Moving the extremely poor into the richer countries will just make all the countries poor The poor coming in won't become as 'rich' as those already there. The ones already there will just have less too. The actual rich will stay rich and the rest of us will be spreading the crumbs amongst us.

thanks from N.Z. in lock down

Please, the Rapa Nui DIDN'T clear timber to move Moai, they used 3 ropes to "walk" them & had a remnant park built with them at Contact, the Europeans let the Pacific Rat finish the job, rats ate their seed pods why they became scarce. The long talk; 32:29; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rut16-AfoyA.html

I’m with Jared, I have constructed paranoia. It has served me well. And of course I get laughed out and made fun of about the fact that people think I’m negative. But I think a lot more about things then a lot of people do.

Bruh, I watched this guys war germs and steel documentary in AP World History

The circumstances of the quarantine have really gotten to both of you 🤣. We are all being forced to “shop our stash”, which is a rare positive ➕ outcome of this historic time❗️

If money makes the world go around Take a lesson from the meek Keep your money don't go to town Their love for money makes them weak Don't want pipelines Don't want oil Take a Lesson from the meek Buy a horse to till your soil Their love for money makes them weak Don't want gmo's or fake food take a lesson from the meek Grow your own you know what's good Their love for money makes them weak Don't like the stuff they teach at school Take a lesson from the meek Home education is a useful tool Their love for money makes them weak Don't like conflict and don't like wars Take a lesson from the meek Refrain at home and do your chores Their love for money makes them weak Don't want corruption or tyranny Take a lesson from the meek The answer seems so clear to me Their love for money makes them weak Hey now gold and riches We're not your bitches Or is it just me Rich or poor They all want more Their love for money makes them weak I want this and I want that Your love for money makes you weak Your a consumer and that's a fact Your the problem so to speak Your ego's bruised oh boo hoo Your love for laziness makes you weak You're the perfect corporate fool And your still protesting no not cool

inequality needs to be nearer the top of the list

An excellent program, along with the interview with Greta Thunberg last September. She accomplished in 2019 what is forbidden in 2020. What is it with the Swedes that I feel close to them as an American for centuries?

This stuff will blow your mind if you've just smoked weed. I just subscribed.

Remember, in many of our lives issues, there are really no "One Size Fits All" answers. Our Creator gave us individuality, common sense and 'free will' for a reason; To USE it, in hopes of leading each of us to OUR Highest Good. And COVID-19 is an Opportunity to bring out either the best, or the worst, most selfish parts of us. Also, KNOW that COVID-19 which is also known as SARS-CoV-2; WILL eventually be followed by SARS-CoV-3; so maybe we should be looking at this as a warning, a time to practice, become more self and other responsible, accountable, reliable; a time to prepare for even worse future viral pandemics.

An Electromagnetic Pulse (from a hostile power OR from a solar event) would fry a lot of the electrical grid. It seems that a whole society could collapse if 10-20% of the population dies soon after and cannot be resurrected for a long period (for example, electrical power plant transformers take a very long time to deliver under the best of circumstances). I am curious why this doesn't make Mr. Diamond's top 4 list.

Wide words on risk and life learning a pleasure to listen to. But I’m not convinced that pandemics are a bagatelle, precisely because the fallout of a pandemic may be to bring on conflict that leads to nuclear exchange

Is that a phone to his right? hahahaha

Sounds like we are in a global crisis and work together as one or we will have major consequences.

Opportunity really only exists where accurate knowledge is present and where critical thinking gets a warm welcome. In the Middle Ages and through much of early modern western history, new ideas tiptoed on thin ice. Today, in certain pockets of a given population, critical thinking gets the cold shoulder. Hard questions meet only with suspicion and so again, opportunity seems only to have a chance in the light of open minds.

Two hundred years from now there won't be one human on this planet ...

It looks like you're in an attic it just has that look

Society making bad choices, people voting for Brexit comes to mind.

But Jared, how many of your neighbors know about your bunker now? Some things are better left unpublicized ;)

Jared Diamond is a pinball wizard! Hay-ho!

I'm surprised he didn't mention the effect on society if we lose pollinating insects such as bees. That will mean the loss of many crops & the subsequent loss of species that feed on them. Including us!

The term “crisis”, when written in Chinese, is 危機. 危 means danger, 機 means opportunity. The typical Chinese thinking is danger and opportunity always go hand in hand.

People, people, people and people, there thats the four.

The tree also is an unnecessary risk. Why sleep under a tree when there are other options. On the other hand, activities like parachuting are leisure activities for most and unnecessary, but they are the goal of the activity. They are the activity.

I do not understand how anyone today can be informed, objective and realistic, and be anything but pessimistic.

We can all contribute to making this world a better place we don't have to wait for the government or supermarkets or big franchises to tell what to or when to make the changes. We are responsible for our own actions and the impact it has on the world good or bad. Humans are supposed to be intelligent. We know we are causing suffering and damage to animals/environment. There is enough information out there to educate us, but the real question is, do we care enough and are we willing to make those changes.

This is an interesting video, but it may actually be true that some societies DO choose to commit suicide. This subject is discussed in greater depth in the video entitled "The Ecstasy of Carbon: The Description of the End of Empire."

Clever guy

Does the good professor also keep a shotgun in his bunker?

Red China focus on that crisis their out detroying the world and your not even mentioning that.

Asteroid crash?

If Humanity were genuinely 'civilised' it would offer the option to live according to the 'laws' of nature, not force people into an artificial existence dressed up as 'progress'.. Greed has no option but to eventually consume itself..

Not in French too!😢

Thought this was limmy on the age app

I love it..."I'm not a pessimist I'm a cautious optimist". So in short he could simply just call himself a realist. "Constructive Paranoia" I love it. Us old farts can learn allot from those older farts. 😍

leaving God out, not repenting, lust, sin, and not loving one another. Exodus 15:26 God speak about it Exodus 9:14 plague of Egypt 2 Esdras 16:37-43 scriptures telling all. Matthew 24:7 warned us pestilence

Interesting did not mention what has caused the great extinctions, meteor strike and major volcanism.

My plea to the people of this planet I don't know how to make myself more clear We are at a turning point in earths history And where we are heading Is my worst fear Division of the people so we're far apart No not social distancing that's not what I mean I'm talking about physical distance between our hearts To block a connection that cannot be seen Affairs of the heart I'm talking about love I'm talking about when you meet someone They personally fit you like a glove I'm not saying sex although that can be fun I'm saying energy felt when you first meet Some how you know this persons unique You know in your gut or maybe your heart That something is wrong right from the start Or something is right if you know what I mean Some how you know without being seen You can't ignore it it's right in your face A certain vibration you get from the place Your gut starts to tighten or maybe it's calm Some how it tells you if you belong This unseen vibration or feeling you got Tells you to listen it tells you a lot But do we listen when it sounds the alarm To keep us safe and away from the harm That is currently threatening humanity That could potentially kill our civility Snitching on neighbors for dollars you owe Government payouts for online trolls Contact tracing to follow who knows Hiding the truth their lies it does show Our bodies are capable of hidden insight And what has been hidden or maybe just lost If we don't tune in and use it our future it may cost When making decisions that just don't feel right When something seems stupid and obvious to me And on this point you might disagree Isolate the healthy quarantined in your home Told When you can leave and where you can rome Booze and pot are essential they state Elective surgery will just have to wait Colored pictures of virus they tell you exist Electron microscopes a fact they might miss Only take images in black and white Something is fishy something ain't right My bullshit meter just gave me the sign My body screaming Will you listen this time I'm no one special or gifted or different than you I'm sure you've felt it like a slow turning screw A tightening of your inner core Do I have to tell you more We have to realize Mainstream media full of lies Use your heart not just your head Or you could wind up more than dead So stop and give humanity a hand Stop vaccinations while we still can Bill he's no doctor he's just a gate Help stop this now before it's to late

9 months and boom?

Every day the world ends for about 150 000 people. And everybody's world sooner or later ends...

I did enjoy his book "Collapse" but "Guns, germs, and steel" REALLY has some holes in it. Why was the wheel not invented and widely used in the New Word, ditto iron working, and many other things that have nothing to do with grains, animals, and such being limiting factors. There is a much stronger argument based upon latitude: people in northern climates had a shorter growing season and were forced to be more inventive to survive. This is a far better explanation for the technological differences between the Nahuatl (Aztecs) and Europeans upon contact. The Nahuatl and Maya had very high technology in many fields: astronomy, architecture, agriculture, etc. Diamond's ideas sound more like some sort of PC apologetics piece vs scientific thought. He is right about LA though- it is doomed.

Jared, These foreigners can get as angry and envious they want at our lifestyle and traditions, but rather than migrate they can make their homes where they were born a garden. The technology and knowledge is there for the asking (or thievery as in Communist China). I see no reason for anybody to try to migrate to the U.S.A. when there is so much room going to waste in their original countries. If there is a tyranny in their country, then they eliminate it and choose the style of government that suits them. At great cost, we eliminated tyranny in 1775-1783, 1859-1865 and probably will have to do it again. I find the division inside our present government offensive, and plan to eliminate it before I die. Many will ask: what can one man do? I say: a lot if he picks his words carefully. This is where the past can help me change my words to heal the divisive elements in our Government. This is where a man who wants no fame, no fortune, no victory, can excel. I have always been like this, working behind people and letting someone else claim their time of fame. Whether we have a bloody victory, or a peaceful consolidation is up to the circumstances of the times. I fear it will be a bloody victory, as this Country has been too lazy in their actions to gather peacefully to solve the problems we face today. We have no real outside oppressors to rally against at this time, so the changes have to be made from inside, and that can be a bloodletting we haven't seen since the "war of Northern Agression" as they still call it here. Time will tell.

10:45 - That doesn't make sense to me. If we survive we won't be asking how late 20th and early 21st century capitalism and supply chain optimization with no stockpiling, or lipservice only to global warming, I don't think we'll be asking how people were so blind and stupid - we'll have an immediate response - we weren't taking game theory and its interactions with the commons seriously enough and for historical reasons too many of us had sacred objects in areas where game theory operated, thus it was a taboo topic and thus we just had to run faster and faster at what we were doing wrong to keep up with whoever was the most ruthless, had the most blatant disregard, and who'd conquer us or put us out of business if we didn't. I like the way Daniel Schmachtenberger put it recently about whaling, that it's a tragedy if certain whale species are ready to go extinct and fishermen/whalers are taking up the last few dozen of that species for oil, fat, meat, and other products but there's an understanding along with that - if a given whaler doesn't get that whale and have a hand in making that species go extinct that whale still won't stay on the ocean, it'll just be someone else's resource prosperity, the more scrupulous whaler's loss, and the species will still go extinct. It's a bit like we need some means to clean up undesirable / harmful arms races over the commons and if we're still alive as a species in 200 years that's something they'll be able to look back on our time and say some people are clued into it but most people found it a controversial concept.

Please dont cut diamond off

The Bronze Age Collapse - study this. We are right there again....

Wow what an intellect🎓🎓🎓 and $23 for a Chinese face mask compared to 60 cents, 6 months ago. #shit#times#for#amazing#people.💔💔💔

I, for one, am sick of living as someone else's property while being conditioned to think otherwise. I see the dominance hierarchy in this species, and academia plays a large role in it. Edward Bernays, Sigmund Freud's double nephew, bragged about how manipulable the masses are in a book called Propaganda (1928). My main concern is not asteroids or volcanism or diseases or anything else the universe might do. My main concern is the increasingly deceptive practices being implemented by shadowy people in the dominance hierarchy of this species. The news media, an artifact of academia, is making a psychological war against the masses. Is everyone aware that the birth certificate is copyrighted and that the name on it is not yours? The BC I use is claimed to be the intellectual property of Her Majesty in accordance with section 12 of Canada's copyright act. Why would law need to be complicated? Why are the fundamentals of law not taught to the young? Why is Jesus alleged to have said. "Woe unto you, Lawyers!"? Why are people naive enough to think presidents and prime ministers are stupid and that we suffer due to their mistakes? I'm not aware of chimps voting for the one they want to be the alpha male. The masses need to learn about themselves as the apes we are and then shine a light on the hierarchy. I don't see this happening, though. I think the shadowy people will continue to divide the rest of us against each other, successfully. We think of chimps as living a brutal existence, but they know how they are governed. We don't. The dominance hierarchy in our species is camouflaged. What we think of as government is their front. We're supposed to focus on that and keep our eyes off the folks that pretend to have no power, although they have great wealth and produce nothing of value.

Anyone combo fans of Jared diamond and Robert greene?

We are all doomed from birth.. make the best of it.

The 4 dangers: 1. Nuclear risks, 2. Global warming, 3. Resource depletion (esp. water), 4. Global inequality

Mr Diamond for Nobel Prize! Racism is a plague, as we have seen until recently, and it arises from a condescending look on the other. This is why I am launching a petition to propose Jared Diamond to the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize. His books restore their dignity to a number of civilizations, including the last hunter-gatherers still existing, which he frequented for years. One of his books particularly "kills" racism: "Inequality among men". I suggest that you sign this petition on @t @t

The four dangers: 6:15 min

beautiful roses. beautiful aura and home environment. beautiful man. insight accurate yet I believe in an even further transformation than a preparation for future madness. I believe in sending out pure love from the heart, forgiveness , for crisis is not a given of nature but of man. it is man who causes underlying effects of your four or 5?. if man can be forgiven? do you believe the universe i.e. god? source? will release a person from dark side control or also his control of the dark side? do you believe the universe responds to love, to higher consciousness as a means to mass transformation. do you believe a mass population transformation can create a new dimensional shifted world? I do. therefore I will keep expressing positive mantra and behaving correctly. which behaving correctly in the first place gives us the power to impact a flow of consciousness (environmentally/population wise) does this make sense to you? be love. you are love. be love. and receive love.