THESE Modding Mistakes KILL YOUR DAMAGE in Warframe!... 

can u teach us how to build guandao prime bc everyone says something very Different

@@eng.abdulhadi make a crit build buddy cc+cd status viral to pair it w the high slash it has ...then depends how u like it but if possible add wepping wounds but if u like fast melees not enough space ....but this should be the basis then adjust to ur playstyle ...easy peasy!!

@@mauroalves317 thank you that is my build but in discord they told me it is not good (I think they do not know how to build guandao)

@@eng.abdulhadi not good ? did they told u why?im courious...but trust me on that....however if u want to also try a really fast build ...i use my melees with 2. or above for speed...with this u loose damage but if u add the speed u inflict small damage ...its death by 1000 cuts ...done in seconds...and guandao has good AOE stance to ...try something like that see if u like it ...if anything add in game PC: addex !!also 1 advice next time someone tells u a weird thing just listen pick the build simulacrukm and test it !1this way u are sure what works and what suits ur playstyle!!!

Forgetting to put in the mods. xD

ONG 😂😂😂

I basically keep a bane of grineer on my weapon loadout and never bother changing it. The other factions defenses just don't scale as well in SP. Even then, outside of SP Disruptions there's really very little content that cares if you take an extra few seconds to kill something. Against demolyst you're better off armor stripping, which will pretty much instantly kill the thing unless something very, very unfortunate happened to your mod layout.

Same Here... I only Switch for grinder for Grinder and Corrupted.... If it's Corpus I Just Laugh at Their Shields (or lack there of). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Imagine using faction mods. Fcking cringe

@@sneakoretardedfans cope

I couldn't agree more. I hate having to prime enemies, or be restricted to using a Panzer, so I prefer to just have viral on all my weapons.

2,000 hours? You've never touched a 😼 and rarely see a shower. No hate, if you're happy keep on keeping on.

@@joshuavandver3784 xD I mean like, to be fair, Steam says I have close to 3,000 hours in Warframe now. In-game, the time played reads as closer to 2k. In actuality, I've been lying since Warframe left closed Alpha back in 2014, and have done an account reset at least once xP so when all things are considered, 2000 hours isn't really that much time spent on just Warframe when there's people out there who -actually-don't have social lives, and are sitting closer to six digit numbers instead of four

@@joshuavandver3784”your a stinky virgin loser. no hate btw” is wild and also insane lmfao

" understand and respect the advice" Why? So much of it is incredibly arbitrary and the examples given are against strawmen to make his shitty advice seem great, the Warframe equivalent of "I've already depicted you as the Soyjak and me as the Chad." And several tips given are just misinformation or misrepresented, like with viral damage. And the weird simping for useless faction mods and being patronizing about it, lol.

The lack of pistol hunter meme makes me hate atomos even with incarnon stat buffs. and love the Torid incarnon. But for incarnon beams the furis is also strong but short, however, no chains or PT.

Holy shit are you the reddit porn person

You’re gonna have a much harder time then everyone else at that rate man Sh*t is funky in this side of the fence

I never use faction mods and don't struggle too much, but saryn is a bit squishy

Kahl smash

Viral slash is great, but I think you're overstating it. Against unarmored enemies slash is mid. And viral has nothing to do with getting around armor-it will be equally powerful at multiplying your damage against anything except for shields and specific viral-immune enemies. So +325% dmg will have the same effect vs your level 1000 heavy gunner as it will vs your level 1000 infested runner. It's just the heavy gunner has wayyyyyy higher EHP till you strip the armor so the added damage still doesn't feel like much

He Already Explained That Later On in The Video... Talk about Jumping The Gun. 🤔

that is not even the issue even with armor ! a build viral +slash melts anything with or without armor ...just diif time to kill ...but if u add heat to this ...well its the most powerful combo in game simple as that !strip0ping armor is nice ofc but u can easily make steel path without w far better results then using corrosive ...wich is poop in many other ways ....viral slash does not need armor stripper although good to have....once upon a time corrosive was good now...meh and ponctual at best!!

You mean you're not racist

​​@@sheldonmitchell4223some factions are racist; others' ideologies oppose others enough to incite violence, so basically religious wars

That is very true, indeed. About Ravage, I'd rather pick that one, too. PPP is surely more appealing to many players at first glance because the number is bigger.

Woo another not-a-fan of faction mods dudee! I have prime bane of infested for.. whatever reason (propably baby tenno me bought it cause yes), wondering if I shouldnt just sell it since now it just collects dust.. #banemodssuck

A big mistake I made early on was maxing some of my prime mods, because it meant that I would always have to have a slot with a polarity of that mod to fit it But like you showed with your last tip, having a bunch of mid-rank mods all multiplied together can often be more damage than a couple of maxed mods if you are limited on capacity

Makes sence ^^

Agreed, priming breaks the flow of normal combat

And resistances like machinery and infested only reduces the damage of the viral application. Not the to health damage bonus of the viral status effect. They will still take the same increased percentage damage to health as anyone else.

This. Also, since i missed quite some time not playing warframe, its gonna be pain in the ass waiting for baro to bring all faction mods, and i can't purchase platinum, so its harder to get lots of it. So screw it, im not going for factions mods until i have at least all of melee faction mods.

Your points are valid up to a certain lvl. But you don't really need to switch mods for each mission, take 30 mins of your time and create some loadouts. Mostly faction mods are used in disruption runs or other high lvl farming spots (beside khora) It kinda amazes me you are lazy enough to mod your weapons, but not lazy to write this whole bs

@@sprinngam2536 It amazes me that you found a counter argument to ONE of my FIVE points. Loadouts would btw only work if you have fixed warframes and weapons to use. Creating loadouts for all frame / weapon combinations just to switch out faction mods is something that most definitely takes more than 30 mins and clearly is not worth the effort. Then again... for what? Fancy numbers? I have not encountered any enemy in the game that would not die within seconds (or faster) even without faction mods.

@@SWATOPR8R1 you didn't encounter enemies higher than 1k it seems, also most of ur argument arent even valid

@@sprinngam2536 if you say so. You have absolutely no idea what enemies I have encountered and actually this validates one of my statements from earlier. But feel free to believe what you want. I stick to what I have said. 99% of all players will never even need to use these mods or want to use these mods for the various reasons I have pointed out because they are just simply not needed for normal gameplay. Seriously, with every update DE makes the players more and more powerful. Every new weapon is more powerful than the last. Every new mod has to overpower the existing ones and since we have weapon arcanes damage numbers go through roof. People did endurance runs to such high lvls before all that...maybe back then factions mods were a must have... but not today. These days we are even in a situation where the devs think that double buffing weapons is the way to go. Underperforming weapons were meant to get buffed via Rivens and Riven dispositions but now we also Incarnon on top of that... and Arcanes... and Galvanized mods... and... argh well... if you think you really need faction mods these days to do damage then use them.

i’m not trying to argue with you and i think your point is valid but the mission types you gave examples of having multiple factions to fight all are very simple when it comes to factions, eidolons faction mods are unneeded and useless, RJ has at most two factions with one of them being the main faction you fight unless it’s a void storm, duivri has only one faction you’ll be facing and that’s corrupted and thrax and afaik thrax don’t have a bane, and relic missions will be mostly either corrupted or the main faction for that node.

Very true ^^ I mean in case you go for DoT with Rhino then Faction Mods would still be helpful due to double dipping but in practice Roar is really all thf Faction Damage you need. Especially in mixed faction missions 😉

Yep, that's quite the number, indeed :O

consider: Ayatan treasures. They can be quick source of many endo. Even as a fellow newb I got decent endo rn from just one Ayatan treasure

MR 19 rn, still never used a "faction" bane card Never will so long as I can

3k hours on record, been playing since 2015 on and off never used a bane/faction damage mod once, and never felt the need to.

i am mr7 & i am still mindf*cked from how to mod for best damage against all factions in a whole, while still keeping good health, armour, and shield. put it like this; i am mr7 and i struggle solo on lvl 3 eudico bounties lol. is there a way to increase ability strength too? because i can't even make kills with embers inferno, i have to finish enemies off after using it; they get low on health after the burning but they never actually die :/, but with my frost i can perform avalanche and lvl 35 enemies will just drop dead instantly, i don't get it lol. ive made the mistake of maxing out my mod fusions too, and now the game is introducing these white mods that i can buy from syndicates and bounties with maxed out fusions, at a farmable cost. still have no clue what rivens are, how to get them or how to use them. i see little humans running around in open worlds and i have a little human as well, but can only use it as a ghost thing that pops out my chest lol. game is amazing & i cant get enough after 5 years on and off on 2 platforms, but it is probably the most confusing, mind scrambling, lose track game that i've ever played lol.

MR is only how many frames/wep you've upgraded to max. It has absolutely nothing to do with damage. Tf are you talking about?

​@@requiem4ameme929 it also keeps em from using some of the better weapons and mods in this game like rivens. It's also an indicator to how much experience and weapons/mods they have at their disposal however it's a soft indicator.

Some people really struggle with maths, yes. To the point that it's intimidating.

Heat gives a 50% armor strip. That's powerful, but it is objectively better to have an 80% strip (corrosive + heat), in addition to full viral stacks.

There's also orokin(corrupted), narmer, sentient and the murmur all of them are their own faction. Hit up the codex and check the factions tab. Also with the latest damage rework in steel path its best to try and match the right elements to the faction being fought or the big damage you see in one mission all of a sudden falls to doing almost nothing over a faction change ❤

i’m MR22 and just maxed it out 😂

same fr

Then regular ones

Especially the Primed Corrupted one

I feel that! I'd opt for Grineer and Corrupted first. Corpus and Infested are weak enough so you don't necessarily need them ;)

As a new player, that is really good to know, thanks

1600 hours, never bought a faction mod, simply can’t afford the extra ends and ducats with all The other staff that exist

it's much better now that we have the elementalist mods as an effective replacement

What would you correct? I don't know too much about status effects and kinda bad at building so the viral part looked helpful, but if it's wrong I'd appreciate some insight on what would be better

I agree. Most of this is fairly basic bad advice. The tips about viral and rivens is just bad. If feels like a video geared towards newer players and yet faction mods aren't worth it. I do enough damage to clap steel path without them.

​​@@GoodNewzzz heres the thing, while the effect of viral doesn't stack into high end by itself there is a caveat. The thing is when you get to high end if you dont have something armor stripping it doesn't matter what you use you're going to struggle. So while he's not entirely wrong, he's also not being entirely honest. Something to consider is while viral status may not be super damaging. What it is doing is multiplying your damage up to 10 times which when stripping armor means you're doing significantly more damage. And well. Yes, corrosive might be better for a certain enemy or radiation. The viral will always be useful. Especially if you have a slash based wep or using Hunter munitions. As the viral status will increase the damage of that bleed. This will always do more damage than modding for an element the enemies weak to. And this is all before you realize that a lot of content there are a mix of enemies so stop and think. Would you rather have an element that works against the one enemy or an element that'll boost your damage against all? Hope this helps.

Some more insight on the misinformation. 10 stacks is not the max amount of procs and you absolutely do more damage the more you proc (trigger a status effect). Viral increases health damage to everything it procs on not just two enemy types and it still works on armoured grineer just obviously they're armour still negates X amount of damage after the fact, except for true damage like slash which gets nutso when combined with viral. Additionally faction dmg mods apply their bonus as multiplier to your total damage on paper yes, but they also increase the damage from status affects as true damage which can get freaky good. The first tip makes no sense. You can't fully upgrade your level 10 mods as a beginner because you don't have the credits or endo to even try so yeah. "don't do that thing you can't do." No shit. My advice would be upgrade your level 10 mods two levels at a time and only invest large amounts of limited resources into what you're actually using. The rest made my brain mushy cbf going over it. Shit advice, don't listen to this channel. Oh yeah ah while having a panzer vulephafu fu whatever the fuck is good and meta it's not absolutely necessary and not that relevant to a player so early in the game they're struggling to upgrade their mods, good luck on Deimos at that point in your journey. Ugh that's enough RU-vid for today.

@@WhatIsSanity Why bro said vulpaphyla like that ☠️

That works for low level content like base Steel Path. But there's a reason you see people use a dedicated "primer" weapon for endurance runs.

⁠@@crushavg 100% correct. I actually went back and forth on whether to mention primer weapons, since the video was geared towards newer players.

I think Bane mods are good if you have Xata's Whisper since it double dips. Correct me if I'm wrong.

@@Greenleaf_ Yeah, It does double dip on that. Also double dips on body part weaknesses and it has weird interactions with certain weapons. A decent ability, for sure.

Yeah, it's technically more possible than matching health types since you know the faction whatever mission type you're going into, but it's a classic trade of convenience vs. cheese. The idea of switching loadouts per faction is laughable IMO. True garbage mechanic.

@@djmcbratney im not even saying for newer players cause they dont quite need faction dmg in the starchart but for high mastery i personally wouldnt mind them to tell me i need to fully upgrade all of the faction mods (that would already take quite literally a kidney of endo and credits to do so) to let me fuse them altogether into a single mod. That would be a smart move for them cause it would force players to actually farm for lots of ducats, credits and endo trought a couple of months since u would need to max 4 lvl 10 mods times 3 if u wanted for every weapon class lol. But they simply cannot see the opurtunity

@@AlexN0704 Ehhhhh - the purpose of faction mods is to force you to switch them for different enemies, though, and that's a stupid reason for a thing to exist, but it's still the *only* reason they do. I'm not going to say that DE has never introduced a mechanic that requires resources and grind or plat to simply invalidate another existing mechanic - that's what aura forma is, for instance, where polarizations are a mechanic for making you dedicate to a choice, and aura forma then turns around and lets you get the benefit to your builds without costing them anything, just costing your progression by being another thing you have to grind out. "Bane of Everything" wouldn't be so different from aura forma in that sense. But if you really did that, and had a weapon mod that's just 55% Roar? Weapon damage, multishot, crit chance, crit damage, and elemental damage are each a category of "stack that multiplies against the other stacks for your total damage output", each with some kind of flavor that at least affects the numbers coming out of the gun in slightly noticeably different ways. Faction damage is another, further stack, and one that's already mechanically uninteresting and has exactly the same effect on the numbers that weapon damage does, just again, in its own separate, multiplicatively applied stack. If you remove factions from faction damage, it's just Weapon Damage 2, Serration again but multiplying against the other Serration (or rather, against Primary Merciless, because if you're still using Serration now it'd be the slot to replace with Bane of Everything.) It's not something you'd have ever introduced if you were building the whole system fresh. I'd much rather just have faction damage ignored and forgotten than have it become usable as just another row on the spreadsheet. It's not as if weapons other than melee are even fun to build or involve any choices now, there's just always going to be one build that maximizes DPS and anything else is suboptimal means to the same end.

At this Point it's Going to Be an Uphill Battle Explaining to People what Diminishing Returns actually Is. 😱

I think it’s leyzargaming (I could be wrong) who says it’s not diminishing returns it’s just math

I remember The Kengineer Saying it's Not Diminishing Returns.... I don't Remember if Leyzar said that too... But then Again he makes so Many Videos... I can't Watch Them All 😱

(additive+additive)x(multiplier)

You're exactly right. It's kind of funny how he teaches about how damage works, and then goes on to say something that is completely wrong. You can easily find the correct answer by simply checking the first thing on the Wikipedia page. It's quite amusing, to be honest. "The status effect of Viral damage is Virus. It amplifies damage to the health of the afflicted target by 100% for 6 seconds. Subsequent procs add 25% increased damage to health up to 325% in total after 10 stacks, with each proc having their own duration. This effect will work even when the health is protected by armor ("yellow health"). Only the shield is not affected."

I am talking about the damage bonus, not the status effect. That is +75% against cloned- and Corpus flesh. I even explicitly said "While the status effect of Viral is pretty busted - making enemies more vulnerable to your damage - the actual damage bonus it gets..."

Viral does NOT bypass Armor. 😐 I might be Mistaken but I think one of the Reasons why people think that it Does is because of the Strange Way in how some Content Creators Explain what their Build Does. 🤔

Saaaame

That's a nice metaphor, thanks for sharing 😉

Same with me

Hahaha I believe that xD

In a way its like viral, u can get it from another sorce(roar)

My määän, I salute you, thank you so very much for this simple way of saying it. I have always been bad with warframe damages and always looked and copied other people's builds, thank you very much

😂😂😂😂

In hell you can have marshmallows. I bet it's nice down there, since in his opinion I'm going there either way

The Panzer is good because it can't die. It's not actually the best in terms of measurable results. But you deal with a lot less bs so I see why u call it the best.

@@sequence1217 Djinn can't die too, but somehow it's not even close to pv, hmmm

Faction mods are only ever needed for high end shit like steel path

@@STUPIDJUICE-qr9sr not really, you can shred anything on sp even w/o faction mods

@@steelsnake1493 Really? What special benefits? For specifically PV other then beast mods u can't pit on the djinn

Any bane mod works great, don't just listen blindly to everything someone says. Like you could have said "I don't care what he says I'm just using the normal ones. They're multiplicative damage, any bane is good

@@ghoulishgoober3122 right the problem isn’t the banes aren’t good. The problem is waggling your finger at people saying they are going to hell for not using them. You don’t need them. For anything. Lvl 999 doesn’t give anything extra over lvl 100. There isn’t a single thing I know of in this game that requires a bane to win. There are so many other avenues of power and telling people to level bane mods and spend the time swapping them out every mission or they’re “playing wrong” is the problem. If you want to do that then do it it’s probably fun for you. There’s nothing wrong with that.

​@@Blahtomatica metaslave will forever be aetaslave

well call me blind,missed that detail

Honestly they seem like the most common mods brought by baro. The downside is that they are VERY tedious to use.

@@samreddig8819 issue is they come unranked from baro and 40k endo is fucked to max em, better off trading em maxed but that's where the plat cost comes in

It doesn't sound like you're at a point in the game where faction mods would matter. And if you aren't in a mission your arsenal can be accessed from any hub by simply pausing the game so changing out one mod takes zero time lol But it's true they arent necessary for doing stuff like basic star chart.

@user-eq3fl1qu2q I'm well into the throws of steel path at Mr 16, able to spike to like probably 19 cause of the recent account merge. I just hate the concept of the mod type, a way I can see of fixing this for me is to add a blueprint to the game to mod all the faction mods for a weapon type into 1 single mod for that weapon type to save a shit load of time and sanity, 2.4x damage is nice but I really cba sinking 40k endo into 4 different mods 3 times just so I'm playing 100% optimally for all my weapons against everything

Tbf it's better to have builds that are tailor made to kill certain factions... makes it a LOT less tedious when you need to do higher level crap. 90% of the time I don't even use them.

Nah they should be in the game, just not a requirement. Not everyone has the skills (or hardware) to take on high level enemies and get perfect accuracy/headshots all the time or have the warframes/companions to boost damage to insane figures. Having mods that make your builds extra powerful at the cost of convenience levels the playing field a bit to allow more casual players to do higher level stuff without trivialising the difficulty. Convienence is a luxury for those who've put the time in to exceed the power requirements of the game. It also means those who want to amp up their builds to pulll the craziest numbers have more tools with which to do it, which is no bad thing.

Their only real point is for player who intend to sit down and grind for a very long time one mission for resources. The benefits stack up over a long period of time, but the need to constant mission swap to do all the check listing make them less enticing for standard play. If you gonna grind for serval hours survival for Cells then yea you should put a faction mod on.

My thoughts exactly! Faction mods are really good but with the way my brain works, I know I’m gonna end up going into a mission with the wrong faction mod equipped and not even realizing it until later lol that and I’m also lazy 😆

I agree with you, I can add that mostly u only need grineer or corrupted mods. Corpus can be obliterated with just slash or toxin builds and infested are the least confronted faction

totally agree. we know that bane mod is good, but hate to change loadout

thats why theres mod configs also for the first 1 hour of steel path bane mods arnt really needed

​@@noahedenborg4221even with mod configs they aren't all that worth using since if ur in a party with randoms they barely even wait for u, so dont even think to change loadouts. I rather have a build that works for everything at a decent performance than having to switch mods depending on what im gping against

Constructive criticism, love to see that 👍

Honestly my most viral weapon builds destroy my other status builds, idk why. My viral 3 forma Ignis Wraith for example overshadows my every other aoe/beam weapon like Kuva Nukor, Larkspur, Amprex etc.

For your first point I think its because he may have forgotten that armor stripping is indeed a thing.

Yes.

To be fair, he just said not on the main weapon, just on a primer. To maximize damage

@@the_homie_nero I honestly just can’t get behind that line of thinking, it’s honestly all preference unless you’re using puncture and/or magnetic lmao. Everything in this game is the same thing but a different flavor except for a few positive and negative outliers. Other games you might actually have to worry about what’s good but warframe overall feels very balanced because everything has the ability to be good through mods. If you have enough time I’m the game and thorough enough understanding you can overcome any challenge with any build.

i use Xata's wisper as much as possible XD void dmg ftw

In general I would agree given that Corrupted are generally tougher than their uncorrupted counterparts 😉

Duviri enemies are all corrupted as well!

Yeah he really should have mentioned armor stripping when talking about viral since that's kind of the point.

@@Greenleaf_ the real irony is, he should have talked about using viral against infested. which is useless as most of them are imune to viral status in the first place

​@@marcosdheleno What he *actually* should have talked about is the fact that viral is often used in conjunction with bleed, which is incredibly busted.

Yeah, I strip all the time... I mean... armor strip...

Yes, that's totally true. Armor strip is king ^^

*Joe Cocker's "You can leave your hat on" playing in the background*

And to even build further on that, you don't need the most powerful build at all in order to have fun. Sometimes builds that are slightly weaker can actually be more enjoyable to play if you don't want to do the usual melee heavy play style for example

​@@falxonPSNyup! Just have fun. I have a totally anti-meta setup that I run with mainly, that relies on the sheer volume of corrosive and PUNCTURE procs a kuva drakgoon with primary frostbite and corrosive cold can do, to kill off basically any target, at least running hydroid. Why? Cause I got bored of how weak viral slash *feels* to use.

When modding a weapon i always use this feature . It gives me the "best dps on paper" option, and them i can start customizing the weapon for my gameplay

I don't believe either of you 😱

@@lookalike4805 Try it out then!! It's so much better now, but you definitely need to fine tune it. Sometimes it puts lvl 0 mods in it just to fill the mod slots 🤣

Yeah I saw the patch notes for those Changes and I still don't believe Either Of You. 😱

Being a new player, you do not have to worry about most of this, just the bit at the start to not fully level your mods until you have abundant resources

The game could really show it more upfront to be honest. Long story short is build for the resistances the enemies suffer against, corrosive/rad against most grineer as an example. The damage will multiply higher

Its normal to understand most of these, as this guide is mostly meant for people who are fighting level 100s daily, right now you can ignore this video up until your first level 100, by then you should have enough experience with modding

The most important thing is to read the stat sheet, every part that you hover with you mouse has a pop up explaining their property, and dont try to understand all mods at once, you should get familiar with them as you find them and start worrying when you complete the war within.

60% multishot will never increase damage more than a faction bonus. The only valid reason to not run faction mods is convenience factor.

Faction bonus mods have funky interactions with DOT damage status effects like slash and heat. They double dip meaning their bonus gets applied twice. Some frame abilities like Saryn's toxic lash TRIPLE DIP with faction mods. So in the right situations they're extremely powerful

Do ppl rly think i was talking exactly about this single 60% multishot mod? I was talking about ALL the mods you use for your build. Sometimes you Just have no space for that one specific mod so you have to: Either change a single mod and lose something (multishot as an example) or keep your build unchanged.

@@Avid2757 Depends; multishot isn't just more damage, it's more chances to proc status and more chances to crit. As he said, real-world performance and paper damage isn't always the same thing and some people prefer to have a guaranteed second projectile with a 50% chance of a third than have a 10% chance of no second projectile with just Split Chamber. More projectiles can help normalise the RNG of CC and SC to a predictable level. Oftentimes consistency/reliability is more useful than a potential to hit higher as it allows you to plan around it - especially in a horde shooter. Against bosses with high HP dps will eventually normalise to make faction mods superior; against normal mobs you'll perform better know you need to double-tap all of them rather than one-shot some and 4-shot others based on the RNG. Obviously this also depends on weapon type; a bullet hose doesn't need multishot to stabilise it's CC/SC since fire rate does that job just fine.

I love messing around with mods and doing silly builds 😅

Build? These words mean nothing without the actual set up

@ghoulishgoober3122 take your current loadout, remove the faction mod and replace with something g else that makes sense. That's all I do.

Then I'm very happy I could help ^^

Also completely ignores that "drain cost / benefit" gets better at each level, so each point you spent on your weapon gives you more for the mods you do have equipped. For example: serration at one is 4 for 15% or 3.75% per drain point serration at 10 is 14 for 165 or ~11. 79% per drain point Likewise ignores that the main problem with the faction damage mods is that for that part of the drain pool you can almost always increase damage more with another mod. serration at 6 + grinner bane at 1 is the same cost as serration 10 in drain serration 5 + grineer 2 is the same cost as grineer 10. With weapons that can do things that require less mods or are all around just better before modding at end of game you can work around this. Noobs with a braton can't work around this. Following the advice in this video will absolutely crush their dps to like single digit numbers. They'd almost always be better off just running damage%, multishot, crit and crit damage as high as they can get it and maybe an elemental damage type appropriate for their mission (or just gas) with the bonus of being able to run fire and be pretty good most of the time until late when they hopefully understand better.

Welcome to the internet, where the ignorant are the experts.

Ah, i see,Its like risk of rain 2 then... cheers for this comment , this dude yapps like theres no tomorrow

SP Circuit pretty much blows through any argument for "priming" setups with a companion or another weapon. You better make sure your weapons can stand on their own, because you have no companions, and no idea what your loadout will be. This video is "technically" correct advice. But I think it's very unhelpful for enjoying the game, as it tries to pigeonhole players into one "meta" method they can't deviate from. This game has so many fun and valid choices. Why limit yourself?

@michaeldougherty6036 I agree. His math is correct, but there is no necessity to be so optimal with builds. Playing into the meta is boring.

Certified Verglas enjoyer. It absolutely shreds