These Runescape Myths need to be Solved 

It's not a myth that these things are really good - everything a chocolate bar isn't, everything a protein bar wishes it was! Find a Mid-Day Squares retailer near you by visiting - bit.ly/MDSSoupRS1 - Make sure to leave your runescape myths in the comments for me!

Is it faster to take the Draynor Shortcut (post AD) towards Port Sarim or running around manually.

I remember when Membership started years ago, and in the early days you could see member objects/npcs from free worlds, but couldn’t fight/interact with them. In fact you could cross the member gate west of tally switch worlds and explore the first member area on free side. You couldn’t do much, but I considered it fun. When white wolf mountain was added, that changed.

The myth about the Ardy knights I think more has to do when you have a splasher. If you have run on, its easier to run under the Knight which will cause him to move location because it screws up his collision or something. I don't know if I'm explaining the reason right, but I definitely know that when there is a splasher everyone is yelling RUN OFF

Myth: Due to the amount of time it takes to get kills, its actually faster to catch hellrats the normal way than it is to hunt for your specific spice when making spicy stews (using a grown cat).

Myth: Ironman popping party room balloons causes items to disappear? As an Ironman, I stumbled upon a private drop party (at the party room) once with a bunch of items in the chest and I jokingly popped a ton of balloons but didn’t see anything on the ground. I told the guests that there might be some items on the ground after a little bit, but the items never appeared on the ground to them

Myth: there is a 99.9% chance of failing the ardy log balance in the center of ardy that has a level 20 something agility requirement lol

Myth: I'm not addicted to Runescape, I can quit any time I like.

What about the myth of running through the DT pyramid, if you keep your energy above 80% you won't fail. I thought I saw it on a Mammal video, and it worked when I did DT, I didn't fall.

The ardy knight run energy off is useful when people are splashing and there's a lot of people stacked without entity hider on.

Myth: casting high alch on the same tick you fall off a rooftop agility course allows you to move sooner. If you have the spell selected before the jump, then click the banknote on the same tick as your hitsplat, I believe it shortens the delay/stall and lets you move a bit sooner, though I've never actually timed it. Also interested if it works with other no-bank actions like fletching.

In reference to the Ardy knight pickpocketing I'm almost sure he means in reference to when someone is splashing on the knight and the knight generally doesn't move but will spaz out sometimes to what some people claim is having the run energy on

Don't forget about game ticks on the teleports. When you click the teletab or spell you could be closer to one game tick than if you were to test it another time.

I don't know if this is a myth but I've always wondered if newly respawned trees have fewer logs than old ones.

The run/walk myth for traps can also apply to the bridge South of Tai Bwo Wannai, where one of the brothers resides with a few scorpions. I always felt like I was less likely to fall off the bridge with run turned off..

Myth: A lit candle has a higher chance of blowing out while running rather than walking in an area that requires a light source.

Cool myth: If you have members items in the GE and you run out of membership, they will not buy/sell

Myth: An amulet of glory (6) helps you get more gems while mining than an amulet of glory (4) or (1). Pretty sure it's supposedly the same gem increase for any charged glory, but in my experience a fully charged glory gets me more.

Regarding the Giant Dwarf item requests - there's 2 part of the quest that request items, first ores and then bars. IIRC it works fine with ores, but you actually get punished if you do it with bars, dropping your favour and potentially needing you to fulfil more requests

when u do your defender grind , do u really need to go out side and show her the defender? or can u just keep killings the cyclops

Myth: Does giving your kingdom in Miscellania one point in idle earn you more resources because they are happier? I've been told this before but not sure if I believe it, although it would be neat if true.

One other variable with the attas VS iasor seeds. Both start the moment they are planted, therefore theoretically the attas would have a slight time advantage, because you could have a run of fully grown herbs, plant it, immediately reap the benefits and immediately plant your second run. Whereas the iasor, to gain the full benefit, would need to be planted either before planting or directly after planting the herbs, to ensure that that FIRST run of herbs gains the benefits from it. Not sure how much this would skew the data, but definitely a consideration.

I don’t know if it’s been stated before, but with the ardy knight one, the run on/off only really matters on mass worlds (supposedly). Sometimes because there are too many people the knight will flash in and out of view cause the games loading all the other people, pets etc. when that happens sometimes people click and move to the tile of the knight, then knight comes visible away and they click to pickpocket it, and if they fail that one pickpocket while they are partially under the knight and moves one tile away to hit them (since they were under him) and I believe it only works with run on, otherwise with run off the player moves one full tile out then pickpockets him. This is just my observation from thieving ardy knights.

Glad to see the answer to my question! I’ve always wondered! :) I believe that the disease/death rate is not affected by which herb seed you’ve planted, I think you just got really lucky with irit and/or unlucky with Torstol on the first attempt. I guess that could be another myth to test on your Ironman 😄

The ardy knight thieving myth needs to be busted using a splasher/bank tile. If your run energy is on and you somehow missclick the knight, it will pull the knight out from behind the bank rope and attack the splasher more often than it would if your run energy was off. At least that’s what I’d assume for the myth based on personal experience.

Myth: You get a better chance by putting ultimate compost after planting the seed than you would if before. Also Myth: Items buy faster inside of the grand exchange if you are on world 2. (Not trading players)

the desert treasure one is the fact you are clicking the minimap nothing else

These videos are amazing! Would love to see actual significance tests on these results :)

Isn't the DT pyramid trick just using minimap the whole way, not house interface?

the disease chance doesn't change depending the tier of seed you use

When it comes to seeing npcs in members areas on f2p worlds, yes. You used to be able to see them. Seeing them is why I bought membership back then, it made me want to experience what I was seeing but couldn't explore. Jagex really should put that in the game. It's a good and subtle marketing move to try to push f2pers into wanting membership. And it's nostalgic.

I would guess the quest items are determined before you even start by an account ID.

I definitely appreciate the pronunciation of "Mike Hawk" as well- really highlights your proper and deliberate enunciation skills. It goes without saying that you'd do the same justice in pronouncing the name of my good friend, Mike Hunt.

Thanks for testing that out, surprised to see it's quest based.

Great videos, quality content, thank you! Myth: If you are grinding for defenders in the warriors guild, killing the 3 or 4 ogres by the door, and you hit a draught, going around and killing each and every ogre spawn at least once increases you chances.

The necklace teleport timing has me interested… if you’re teleporting to a city instead of a guild/minigame does it take longer on average because of the amount that needs to load into the chunk? Also is the jewellery box any faster?

Soup I’m so happy your evolving in to your final form . Your videos are setting the bar so high for the whole community.

Yo Soup, love the vid! There’s so much untapped potential for a series like this. By the way, what’s that outro song you’ve got playing? It’s a groove.

All herb seeds actually have an equal disease rate based on your farming level and compost, so that myth was inaccurately assessed. Also, factoring in the Resurrect Crops spell changes the math significantly

13:14 you could put this test on further experiement by amassing barrels of coal tar with you, making you +800 kg. or abusing the quest death for dogashuun for the max weigh in the game.

For the leaf trap in the forest: yes, it's the same mechanics as the spear traps in PP. If you click on the further tiles it makes you try to walk passed the first part of the trap which will always count as an attempt to "walk passed" the first set of traps on the way to attempt to "jump" the second set which leads to failure.

to anyone yet to do desert treasure, you can just click the minimap when inside and youll never set off any traps, as long as you just click the minimap to get around

While doing Herbiboar… sometimes there are two hiding spots. Is it always a certain mushroom/muddy patch when approaching from a specific direction?

About the Chaos Ely one: when they had this bug that you could log into a f2p world in a very specific spot next to the east Ardougne mine, you could see there were no NPCs there on the f2p world, no bears, no nothing. Also, I remember that back in the days you could see "pickpocket" option on F2P, so maybe back then the NPCs were there

Amazing video :) I enjoy all of your content here on youtube! At 9:40 I think you may have misunderstood the issue with having run energy on while pickpocketing the ardy knight. In the location you showed this issue does not exist. But for people who do this method in the bank it is a real issue. It has a tendency to 'drag' the knight away from the locked location or around whatever is between it and the splasher at the bank. its probably something to do with how you start interacting with stuff 2 tiles away with run on, and only 1 tile away with run off. So if you are running up to the knight with run on and fail the knight then steps forward one tile to bonk you with his sword and is 'dragged' away from the barrier between him and the splasher.

On the DT pyramid one, I dont think the house menu matters! I've done this quest quite a few times and always just use the minimap to move through it and dont think I've ever failed.

Myth: The nodes on the upper level of Motherlode Mine have an immunity window after spawning and can't be depleted for a brief period no matter how many people are mining there. (Saw this on Reddit) Also love the vids Soup, found you through GG and binge watched all your other series. Great presentation style

Hey soup, cool to see you use the myrth I sent, sad you wasted all that time for nothing. I don't know if you can test this myth, but joining the guthix portal in castle wars when the saradomin and zamorak team have an even number, joining the guthix portal will send you to the zamorak team more often then the saradomin team. PS a castle wars battle in Gielinor games could be very fun content

I wish i had my old videos, but I also remember seeing the chaos elly and hellhounds past the gate in F2P before the OSRS / RS3 split. I even remember wanting membership to go there and that being the first thing I tried doing.

Myth: It is always the second stone closest to draynor manor on the champions guild stepping stone shortcut which makes you fail the obstacle.

The house options thing is funny because back in the day in stealing creating creating if you hopped over the fence and the team was full it would kick you out, however if you pressed house options as you went in it didn't kick out out and at the start of the game everyone was teleported. Making stacking infinitely big teams possible.

sometimes when you kill someone after they just fought, someone else gets the loot. Can you use an alt to get your own loot key?

13:00 Just re the weight here... Get some coal tar barrels for anything you need to test weight on. One slot. 40 odd kilo. Stack your invent and weigh more than a truck. Thus will help you test with more confidence. Also: Welch's test is a good one to confirm with confidence if you are not sure!

I believe that for teleport tablets, if you click the teletab on the same where you take damage, the damage is cancelled and you teleport. If you cast a teleport spell this way, you can take damage upon arriving (and even die)

The reason for the run off while pickpocketing knights is, as I understand it, because when you have a splasher, a missclick with run ON will increase the chance of you running around/under the Knight, causing him to get unstuck from the spot where he wont move at all.

When getting the Angler outfit at Fishing Trawler, your chance is lowered for outfit pieces if you turn the camera sway off. I believe it used to cut the drop rate by half. Unfotubatly they did rework Fishing Trawler relatively recently.

The one about the Iasor / Attas seeds, this is one I've done the maths on a lot because I used to be a massive farming nerd back in the day. Basically what it comes down to is if you just plant, if it dies dig it up and replant etc, then yes, the extra chance to live makes you more herbs / money However if you go onto the arceus spellbook and use resurrect crop then you will make more herbs (and money) per seed, due to it effectively having an extra life, and therefore dying less often (with high level seeds at 99 farming anyway, because they're expensive, not sure about cheaper seeds)

Concerning the iasor vs attas myth: taking into account that dead herbs can be revived at a 75% success rate with 99 magic and there being protected patches for high lvl seeds, the attas seed is far superior. Planting high lvl seeds into the 3 save patches + catherby (for the diary buff) + low lvl seeds in the non protected patches and reviving them while having an attas seed up is always better than iasor.

Myth: you get less barbarian assault role points if the other people are shooting runners and healers with red/green eggs. It might just be that it takes way longer to shoot them if you have a bad defender/healer. If you run this experiment maybe try to do the shooting round first and then try to hit the same time doing the role legitimately. And make sure to block the cave so no runners get through on either trial :)

Myth: Majority of the people watching this series aren’t currently subscribed Or Myth: training strength first is the fastest way to train melee early. Anytime I started a new account, I always heard this and am curious if it’s true

great series :thumbsup: wish you timed smaller things in discrete ticks, lots of ways to visually see ticks on runelite to help out (report button counter, prayer flick helper, visual metronome)

The Ardy knights running thing isn't about when luring the knight into the house, it's about doing it on a mass world where the knight is trapped in the bank, usually by a splasher, and a stack of people all thieve at the same time. People always leave their run energy on which means when they msiclick, with the thieving animation delay, their character ends up catapulting into the knight's tile, breaking his "stuckness' in the corner of the bank, so the knight begins to wander again and needs trapping again. disabling run avoids this by like 99%

Having run off for Ardy nights just helps pickpocketing because when they move you don’t start zooming all over the room. Makes it faster and less visually disorienting to get back on the knight.

Pretty sure the Ardy knight walking refers to bank trapped knight. When run is left on the player travels two tiles quickly, this is faster than a splasher and the focus of the knight is taken and he gets an opportunity to move as that player "runs" to the bank. IF they walk it happens less often.

For herb runs, attas gives more herbs per seed if you use resurrect crop, but if you resurrect you have to wait until next run so iasor is better for getting more herbs per run (and generally more worth using)

awesome job soup, i barely play anymore but these are definitely questions i remember having and gielinor games is also awesome!

mmm, I remember walking to the wilderness fence and wondering what could possibly be behind the fence that incentivised me to beg my parents for membership, got members hopped to a member world went through and got clapped by the chaos elemental in a few hits.. I dont think it was visible from F2P worlds though

Regarding the Ardy Knights and run energy on or off, I've definitely seen a difference when someone with their run energy on gets caught and immediately misclicks away from the knight. They get caught, but their run registers, and the Ardy Knight runs up to hit them when they're three or four tiles away, plowing through any players. I've only seen this happen at the Ardy south bank, though.

The leaves trap was never a 'low chance to succeed' issue, It's that before Runelite, we couldn't see that it was made up of several different tiles and clickboxes instead of one large one. To pass the leaves you must click on the closest middle tile on your side. Perhaps this can be tested, too!

The myth about the pickpocketing ardy knights is different from what you've tested. The myth is that when someone is splashing an ardy knight in the bank below the marketplace from the other side of one of the ropes, having run on will push the knight out of that spot. This happens when someone is spam clicking and misclicks and they run around before going back on top of the knight while being animation locked in place for a few seconds which pushes it out. I've only ever seen it happen when people have their run on.

Myth: Soup's favorite food is actually Ugthanki Kebabs.

I was doing DT and I failed the pyramid almost immediately, when I remembered seeing this video back when it was first released, but I didn't remember the conclusion , and I'll say, despite it making no logical sense, the house menu thing worked for me, too. It could just be a coincidence, but I doubt it, so thanks for making that section of the quest run smoothly ^_^

On Mos Le'Harmless, west of the entrace to Cave Horrors, there is a statue where it seems a Black Mask can be fitted into. I know on Runescape (pre EOC) you would get a message with something like "Something sinister happens far off(...)". I never found out if anything ever happend when doing this. I fooled myself into thinking it would increase my black mask drop rng :)

I believe the run energy off only works when a splasher is attacking the ardy knight holding it in a single space. Run off = the knight never moves unless the splasher stops, run on = the knight will move often.

For the item collection of the giant dwarf quest; if you do it too often you will get reset :) I did so on the bar collecting section and I had to go back to the ore collection part..

the moving ardy knight myth has been executed wrong. the not moving is for the bank spot.

I’d like to ask for a follow up to your seed question, of is having crops not die better than the one that gives more. What about if you add in the ability to resurrect dead crops from the acreuss spell book?

I can 100% confirm in the last month someone was helping a few of us new players get this cosmetic armor by doing these cryptic clues. we kept dying at the step at the elder chaos druids and they realized we could go to a non members world to avoid them. as we spawned into it we saw the elder chaos druids but they 1 by one vanished. something does seem to cause it partway through typing this I realized that what client you are using might actually be the root of this myth, as the HDOS client does try to display far away enemies and NPCs and doesn't actually update their real location until you get close. maybe the entire root of this myth is people on HDOS, or maybe a similar runelite plugin, that lets them see things that arent there from a distance. who knows!

No cheesing required with The Giant Dwarf. I've always just told them no, when i don't want to accept an ore/bar deal. Seemed pretty straightforward. 😂

Came back to comment this in case someone else didn't already mention it: Myth: You will trigger a trap if you run across the ground in the final room with the safes in the rogue's minigame puzzle room, but if you walk then you will not. I triggered a trap several times in a row with run on during my grind for graceful on my group ironman, but as soon as I walked it did not trigger a trap on the floor

This is just a hunch but the Fairy Tale items might be tied to some aspect of the account itself. It could be using something like your character id as the seed for a random number generator. The items aren't rolled during the quest but more or less determined the moment your account is created. Other other account locked randomness like the Underground Pass path or observatory stars might also use the same method.

I used to think Iasor seed was awesome but then I started using the Arc spellbook for rez with attas seeds and it's definitely more income.

I'm not sure about the teleport tablets vs spells conclusion. Keep in mind everything in runescape is timed by ticks, so unless you click the button exactly on the last 1/60th of a second of a tick, the time will vary. I'd suggest going frame by frame and measuring it from the first frame of the start of the animation, because theoretically that should be the start of the tick

Hey Soup I think you should do the ardy knight test again but instead of standing next to the two tiles that he can move between, try standing on the tile he’s not on and do the test the exact same way. I think the results will be different this time around! Thank you!

i remember back in the day you could actually create a members item in f2p by using a bowl of water on a range to get hot water. Not exactly a myth but worth testing boio

The Ardy knight myth is about how some people have their run on and accidentally run next to/beside the knight, allowing it to move out of place. When run is off it is much easier to correct/avoid. An annoying grind I've done a few times.

I didn't even know the desert treasure trap doors were a thing. After completing the quest 5 times total now, I've never fallen I'm one

According to legend, Finns are the largest group of players if the size of the population is taken into account. Swedes take second place. Is this true? This could be a question for a whole new episode!

The thing with the Ardy knight and the run energy ON is not about you solo pickpocketing him, it's about the same concept as stacking dust devils/nechs/every other npc. In "Thievinghost" cc's world you have a lot of people in the same spot, with the run energy ON you'll move much quicker between the 2 tiles in the bank making him move more often. It's not a myth nor an hearsay, it's purely game mechanics.

Supposedly, you have a better chance of successfully jumping the pit in the pyramid during Icthlarin’s Little Helper if your hands are empty (that is, nothing equipped in your weapon or shield slot). Is this true at all?

I definitely remember seeing the Chaos Elemental before becoming a member back in the day, since I was astonished it was possible to kill. lol

clicking on the floor in the desert pyramid totally causes traps to happen... I kept failing then tried just clicking the minimap and didn't get a trap until I had to click on the last door

I remember playing as a kid and seeing members items in the wildy everywhere and trying to pick them up and getting the "you need to be a members" prompt, so the chaos ele theory doesn't seem false to me, at least back in the day.

Does your run energy % being higher cause you to fall less in the underground pass? I had 90+ run energy before every jump (was only ~50 Agility) and didnt fall once the entire quest.

I remember being able to see the Hell Hounds and other Members-only NPCs and Members-only items back in 2004 on F2P worlds.

Myth: the closer you are to an npc while attacking with range/mage the better your accuracy

The run energy off is to prevent ppl from miss clicking the tile the ardy knight was on after it moves, this will block the ardy knight from moving but if the ardy knight doesnt move after a certain amount of time it will despawn and someone will have to dragon spear it back into the house.

for 99 herb on my iron. As for anima seeds, I use attas seeds but plant low level seeds in plots that can get diseased, and high level herbs in the protected pots that cant get diseased. Get more herbs, and save your good seeds.

Gotta love RuneScape here in the good old year of 2002. It really helps move past the tragedy and pain our country has gone through this past year. Somehow I feel like the world may never be the same again.. nahh that's probably just an overreaction... Right?

Heres a myth I have believed for years: you yield more herbs when you have more space in your inventory than when your inventory is full or almost full.