Thanks for showing my green screen room!! It's a complete cyclorama wall with 1/8 thick flexible board framed out and floating. It's a complete stage. I didn't start with the wall, I started with the room, which is why it's green (technically a darker green) then later added that cyclorama wall. Also all wiring is cable managed under the desk as it's a standing/sitting desk.
Makes me think about the one Tarkov RU-vidr's intros that incorporate him into the game space to talk about the game, would be neat to see that in other game spaces like for example Half Life Alyx for instance.
Thank you for featuring my setup, Jay! I really appreciated your take on it. So much time, money, and effort went into finally getting the setup to where I really wanted it and it felt good to finally reach that level. Rock on, man! Also fyi, the EVGA build lives with my channel partner (and close friend) Wayne so that's why you didn't see it.
@@MrRyudragon aww yissssss! This video had great setups all around too! Would love to see Jay do remote radiator "dumb experiment" vid. Though its a legit thing so wouldn't actually be dumb, but either way I'd watch.
I love that studio build. Jay, the panels you weren't sure about are used to break up the sound energy as well as absorbing the energy. Gives the room a little character so it doesn't sound "dead" while also stopping echos.
*TO ADDRESS "the difference between the soundclouds on the right and left versus the one in the center" (@ **5:19**)* - The fabric-covered "blocks" to the sides of center above listening position are conventional absorbers; i.e., they're basically fabric-covered Owens Corning 703 (or 704) used to attenuate low-to-high midrange reflection. The panel directly above (and on the side walls) is a *diffusor* or, more specifically, a Binary Amplitude Diffusor. Conventional diffusors used different depths and thicknesses of wood blocks and take up a lot more of the room due to their thickness; BADs use a specific hole pattern over a semi-absorbent material instead. Either way, diffusors "scatter" room reflections, which cuts down on splatter reflection without making the room too dead or dry. (In fact, diffusors can often make the room seem "bigger" and "less boxy"). BTW, the pitched walls (and ceiling) were probably done deliberately; (I'm guessing the room was purpose-built). When constructing a mix room, you want to avoid parallel walls (or floor and ceiling) to the greatest extent possible. This is also why the desk is away from the front wall; barring some exceptions (such as bass reflex monitors designed to be placed near a wall) you want your monitor speakers as far as practical from the floor, ceiling, and all walls.
Jay, there will be pressure loss due to the length of tube but that water high above is also being pulled back down by gravity. You should do an experiment with a long coolant loop fully filled with fluid and run it horizontally and then run it vertically and measure the "head loss" in each setup. I think you'll be surprised at the results.
I thought the same thing, but I think what Jay was mentioning is the static pressure at the pump outlet. While having a pump at the bottom of a loop is the most efficient location, it also means the pump is constantly exposed to higher pressures, potentially increasing the wear and tear on the pump (but effectively, it would only be marginally).
@GamerBoyPS360 Basically, the effort the pump needs to push the water up the pipe (against gravity) is cancelled out by the water falling back down the other pipe (with gravity). So once the loop is full, the pump won't have any issues.
Wouldn't the top of the loop have a lower absolute pressure as a result? Its that tallest height of a straw problem, except offset slightly by a little pump. A Funny question of how high you could raise it before you end up boiling water inside the radiator when the system is under load.
Jay I just wanted to say thanks for these kind of videos showing off all these awesome setups. I've been running a FX 8320 and evga 970 that's served me well for about 8 years now and I finally got my hands on a evga 3070ti at micro center while on vacation and I've been wanting to build a new pc for years now and hopefully someday soon I'll get to show off what I built on here someday
The panels that look like cork board is a partial-reflective absorber. Reflects high frequencies while absorbing bass, put simply. The "shapes" are scattering diffusion. The shape is required for the physics to work. And the pitched roof isn't pitched; that front top corner is filled for bass trapping, same as the vertical corners. Very nice home studio room.
In the sound guys setup, the Panels with holes and the triangular back board are for diffusion. Trying to defuse sound waves by scattering the reflections rather than pure absurbtion. This still allows sound reflections to occur for a pleasant/balance reverb sound while trying to avoid phasing or peaks & Nulls in the frequencies.
Absolutely spot-on Jay regarding some people (like myself) being severly negatively affected by clutter, mess or an unorganised workspace or similar areas. I just can't focus on a task at hand and get really stressed, and feel really hampered by an unorganised/messy/untidy environment. However, my 19-year old daughter and I are very similar in many aspects of our personalities, but when it comes to working hard and producing well, we're polar opposites - she functions best and is completely unfazed by her workspace being in a complete mess - that is "comfortable" for her and she doesn't find it unorganised etc. Best! /M
Pump head pressure is not an issue in the first system as like you said the liquid moving down puts the same pressure on the system as the water going up. The main pressure would be from trying to move the volume of fluid in the system and the amount of friction from fittings and corners. If the level of the water when turned off is an inch below the top of the system the pump is working to push the water over that inch no matter whether it's inside the case or 12 feet above it. I believe the "head height" would be the difference between the top of the loop and the water level on the outlet pipe at the time water starts to flow over the top.
@ 3:35 That reminds me of my old Corsair Hydrocool 200 ex I has back in 2004-2005 on my pentium 4. I made a shelf for it to hang out the window in the winter time. gave me good temps!
Damn that glow up at the end, I have a tiny space from the town home where I have to basically have my desk & rig at the corner of our living room at my town home (house prices in my state are a complete mess right now) and I can't hang or change much and seeing awesome setups that utilize small spaces like that are always awesome. One day I'll get to actually fix up a space dedicated just to my build, for now I gotta make due haha
Note on the first one, because it's a closed loop the pump isn't working any harder to push water up there because gravity is also equally helping pull it back down much like a sciphon works. If anything it's only harder because of the tube length.
Thanks, Jay! Glad you like the direction my retro TRS-80 project is going! I actually have active cooling added with 4 NF-F12s, 2 at the bottom for intake and 1 at the top for exhaust for a positive pressure setup - those fans came in after I took the pics. Nothing is in final assembly yet - I just took a few photos while fit testing and testing temps, etc. The display was challenging. Had to find an LCD that was about a 12" 4:3, large enough to fill the space, but small enough to fit the case while keeping some of the original black bezel look since the factory bezel is shaped to a CRT.
@@jasonmollett5308 Looks like a great start in a confined space. First mod attempt for me too and I still have a lot of work to do on it - I was just lucky to have so much volume to work in with the Model 4. I didn't have an original keyboard to re-engineer back into the system either but I looked into finding one and trying. Just ended up going with a new mechanical keyboard and going to build a new platform panel around it to make it flush. We'll learn from them and make them better / make future mods even cleaner. Awesome job!
The first setup would be better with the external rad near the floor, cold air sinks, so it would theoretically get a cooler supply through the fans / rad
Elevators have counterweights. The pump in the first will be fine as long as the system is a closed loop without air in it. Theoretically (not physically obviously) you could put the cooler all the way up into space with the same pump. If you have the same amount of water pulling down as you want to push up it's just a balanced seesaw, very little force is needed to tip it over and it wouldn't matter how much weight was on each side as long as it's equal.
for a while back in 2005 my radiator consisted of two 1m lengths of aluminium extrusion mounted outside my bedroom on the windowsill, worked really good in winter because Scotland, but not great when the sun was on them in summer. I sometimes used to get negative temps on start-up :)
On the sound one J, Looks like diffusers and absorbers. Need both for a good acoustical experience. Those rear panels that you don't like are sound diffusers, to break up the back waves
I upgraded my system a couple months ago from my $650 budget build (I5-2400 (4c), 16gb ddr3 @1333, and a gtx 1050ti) to a new build that came in just shy of $3,000 I was going to just do like a I5-5600k or something but decided if i was going to upgrade at all I better at least get an I7. So I went for an I7-10700k (8c/16t), 32gb ddr4 @3600, and a 3070. I also went from a Sata ssd at like 500 mb/s to a m.2 at 7000mb/s (
I just ended modding my desk into a bigger top and more shelves for more space, finally after 2 years wanting to do, so i spent nearly 2 days doing all the cable management on the back. Its so many cables but i think ive done what i wanted which was putting them managed individually for the reason you mentioned in the video xD
I'm surprise it took this long for an external radiator setup to show up, my previous case (CM HAF 912) still had tube grommets in the back for external radiators.
First System: I would put the radiator not where the warm air ends up, but where the cool air lays. So put it to the ground. The warm air will raise to the ceiling and the radiator will push new cold air through. My five cents :D
Kedmiri is doing acoustics right, different types of panel = absorption at different frequencies (Best way to get good RT-60). Shapes are for diffusion as opposed to asbsorbtion. Don't like the shapes? suck it up, they serve a purpose. That room must sound pretty good.
Thank you! Actually the panels behind the TV are for pure aesthetic. Maybe they're diffusing the sound reflections a little but I did them just for the looks. :D
Re first setup, the temps should be worse in that case (as the ambient temperature will be higher at the top of the room),it would be better to putt he rad on the floor basically. As for pump head pressure, it's a closed loop system (what you push up also pushes back down, it's not only helping, it's completely negating the height difference), you don't need head pressure to deal with the height difference. You only need it to cover hydraulic losses which do increase with the added tubing length.
13:45 I would 3D print faux 5.25 floppy drive faces (you could even rig up some red LEDs) and install fans behind them. You could have slits cut all around the faux faceplate for air intake, you could even rig up some dust filters. That would keep it looking period correct and running cool!!
You are forgetting that head pressure/height can be offset by gravity siphoning effect. Remember, as the pump pushes some water up, there is water returning on the other side with gravity helping it down. If there are no leaks, that helps pull water behind it back up, easing load on the pump. The pump may have problems filling the system in the first place, but once it’s primed, it shouldn’t be an issue.
Haha the first one reminds me of what we did in the 1990's - I would have a car's heater raditor core with a fan strapped to it hanging out of my window... Good times.
I am 41, Jay my first PC was a Commadore 64. The went I was 15 I got from one of my mother's friends. A IBM box that had like a 10 or 12in green tinted screen with white letters and used the 8" floppy in one drive to load dos (like 1st IBM verson) and a basic word proccer. Now that would be a retro build. That box was so big you could mod it to fit a full ATX with power supply with room to spare.
I am a computer hardware engineer, myself, or an electrical engineer (the stuff I do overlaps both fields), and I've actually designed some basic CPUs before. Through the power of FPGAs, I've been able to actually test them outside of simulation. I work with FPGAs at my day job, too.
If the water is coming down again then there is no head pressure due to the syphonic action/gravity pressure of the water coming down again, they neutralize each other.
That second setup - the blue room music setup.. That's not a pitched roof/ceiling. Look to the right of the ceiling sound clouds - that angle at the top of the wall is another bass trap.
Head pressure from the height would only matter if it WASN'T a loop Once it's full and bled... you're just dealing with the pressure due to bend and pipe diameter.
i haven't checked out tacofist's video yet and he might address it, but if i had to guess, with the mixed reality setup, the green on the opposite side is to make sure there's an even amount of green spill hitting from the front as there is the back (think like....if you hold your arm up to any colored lighting, some of it will bounce back on to you) so any de-spilling (aka telling software "remove this amount of this color from the input being given") he might be doing is consistent. having different front or edge light than the green screen is actually really annoying to pull good mattes for even in film/tv, and so i'd imagine that live keying is much more finicky
2:37 and it is next to a window, sun rise I think is ok as the morning cold should nullify the sun's heat but sun set facing window will cook. Better if he puts it in his basement lol
Haha didn't think about it like that. Its a custom made LED light up clock engraved with my last name, just wanted to hang it somewhere. It's actually still in the room too, just in a shot you can't see there lol.
Those poor Tandys… 😭 Granted the beasty there was probably found quite dead and even someone like Adrian Black would make quite a project of trying to bring it back to life, but somewhere out there a poor CoCo is running around naked with its transformer flappin' in the breeze.
My pc was inspired by saving money lol. I recently got a new old stock Dell Inspiron 3668 with a 7th Gen i5, 12 GB ram, 1tb sata hdd, 2gb Geforce GTX760, DVD-R drive, Dell 22" widescreen monitor, keyboard, mouse and Win10 Home for $50.00 from a local computer recycling center. I did upgrade to a 700watt PSU (I had to make a 24 pin atx to Dell's 6 pin adapter) so I could use the video card.
Jay, you might get a cheap, durable glass desk from glass company if you ask them to cut you one from a recycled display window. Those can take a real beating and unless you smash your desk with a cinder block while you game you should be safe.
I just hope that last rigs custom loop inspires J to build some more custom loops and new liquid cooled products that come to market in past couple years ;)
19:10 you got to do what you got to do, and in my experience those picnic tables arnt to bad if you need a big desk, though over time the middle can get a bit un even so dont have your mouse space over the middle, its also kind of a deep desk if you are into that like me
I wish I had gotten you a picture of my setup now - I have my computers and server routed to the other side of the wall my desk is against in the room with the AC, washer/dryer, etc... so that my room stays perfectly quiet for VA and audio work.
Not a knock but a lot of pc content creators seem to be running out of ideas. I have I unsubscribed to many. I am loyal to Jay as he seems like a cool cat. So I’ll always drop a like.
most of those aquarium pumps have a 15 foot head lift .on a 3/8 tube line .hes about 50 % duty and should be ok .Replacements will come sooner for sure .
Im musician/sound engineer/gamer and I love that second setup. can't find weak link there.. wait I found one! I love that blue light, but realistically - blue light is not eyes friendly at all. yellow is. that is what I would change and I know, it would ruin whole thing so ignore me here:)
That first one, he would have being better putting the radiator at the bottom most part of the room, the floor, thats where its coldest, it would have being alot more effective
JAY!!! its a struggle bus finishing my build, having issues finding what fittings i need to order without ordering a bunch that wont work... Lian Li o11 xl ( yea i know) ek X MSI z690 carbon, 12700k Quantum reflection front mount Distro plate 3090 FE with EK block and active backplate, top and bottom 360 rads (360 classic PE rads) 6x 90degree pre bent 10/14 acrylic tubing.... only things that line up with plate is the bottom rad, need fittings for top rad to clear the 2x8 pin cpu power supply at top of MOBO, CPU and GPU dont line up at all and flow direction is wonky. I guess i thought these were designed to line up really well.