These Young Players Hit A Massive Wall...But Why? 

It’s crazy how 20 ppg guys can be out of all star level bubbles nowadays, expectations are insane and if u aren’t in the perfect scenario you’ll never meet them

Yea RJ has a huge tunnel vision problem that leads to him being predictable. It hurts on fast breaks when you see an open man but RJ instead opts for the floater/awkward layup that sometimes goes in.

RJ doesn't have a variety of offensive moves, isn't overly athletic, and lacks shooting touch. He can get to the basket very well, but decides to chuck up a contested shot instead of dishing out or turning around and keeping the dribble. I thought he would have improved by now. I don't ever think he'll be a star but he can be a good role player. It's just frustrating that the Knicks paid him all that money for him to regress.

glad you mentioned okoro. as a cavs fan, it has been disappointing to see how he has basically stayed stagnant offensively since his rookie year. he really seemed like he could be a legit 3 and d player earlier in his career, but he is just such a liability on the perimeter now, its just sad to see

I kinda disagree with your take on Ayton being the same player since he got drafted. He was a bad defender when he came to the league but as years progressed his defensive game also progressed and is one of the reasons why the Suns is a really good defensive team right now.

One can argue that the Suns acquisition of CP3 saved the perception of Ayton.

Barrett has never impressed me. Seems more suited to a bench scoring role than the focus of an offense

I was extremely hyped about Cam Reddish. I thought the dude could be anything he wanted if he just put in the work. Sad to see the road his career is going down at this point. I guess not everyone can put in the "work"

Nowadays, paying a guy who performed well beyond his initial contract is scary. Once they secure the bag, they just disappear, it's like robbing money from a bank

I think too many NBA Players are too afraid to admit that they get bored of basketball more often then the general population understands

I don't think it's any coincidence that the wizards haven't developed any of their draft picks from the last 5 years ago, they've all ended up looking like busts. I'd be willing it has more to do with their development program rather than scouting and proper drafting.

Ayton has actually improved as of recently

*1:30 i agree, hachimura was a terrible defender as a rookie, but defensive rating isnt good way to evaluate single player defense.

Hi Andy, how about making a video on why Yuta Watanabe was undrafted during the 2018 NBA Draft? Thanks.

Alot of my fellow Knicks fans were reluctant to give up RJ for Mitchell this past summer, i was ready to pack him up and now I’m proven right lol

You've been spitting hot bars for years now. How do you not have a record deal??

An interesting video to be sure. One aspect that came to mind is, especially for Rui, what's the incentive to overally improve. I know some players want to be all stars and get the big checks and accolades but I think mentally not many players see it that way and want to "coast" in a sense since they are still getting paid millions each year.

Hate to see this happen to young guys!! Hope they bounce back!!

Love this content 💞

I appreciate you actually explaining why RJ is playing so poorly for his expectations. Knicks refuse to actually put him in a situation to play good with shooters. And on top of that his shots just very cold right now

I thought Kendrick Nunn to be on list after his finished top 3 rookie of the year.

Great video as always I have to disagree with the fact that a player not living up to the expectations of us viewers or the media is their own fault! they did not chose that if anything it's just an obstacle in their way trying to meet the high expectations and hopes put on them instead of focusing on their own thing

I remember when 32% 3pt was above average a few years ago

I usually don't comment on these because I never have anything bad to say about your takes. Reading what you wrote about Ayton is just flat wrong though. He's made huge improvements to his efficiency, and most of all his defense. He's been told to play within the coaches system and he does so excellently. Also just a small tid bit about the contract situation. They had initially offered him a 4 year max contract so they could have some flexibility when Chris Paul inevitably leaves the team. He wanted a 5 year so he declined and as you know he signed that offer with the Pacers. The Suns had that offer matched within minutes because they had zero intention of letting him go. Just wanted to point all that out! Keep up the awesome content though because you're my favorite NBA channel out there!

Basketball is a game driven by fear. The fear to shoot the fear to succeed. The fear to get washed. Beautiful Game

Good video but disagree on the Ayton take. He has been balling as of late. He got western conference player of the week for the first time in his career so that alone shows improvement. He had an over looked 30 and 16 game last night due to Bookers 51 point performance.

Thing bout Rui, maybe he need a change of sceneries too? If in a different system it might help him more.

I didn’t watch the video yet but a young player that disappointed me so far is Saddiq Bey. I had him breaking out into a elite scorer this year but he have been too inconsistent and injuries have hindered him so far

Babe wake up Andy dropped a new video

RJ started worse last year then he did this year and picked it up. I think RJ will pick it up soon and become even better

I think De'Andre Hunter should be on here, been the same player for 4 seasons now, occasionally has a 25+ night with a bunch of 10-15 point nights

To your point about RJ’s offense being predictable, Opposing teams know they can sag off of him on the perimeter because he’s not a strong shooter. Almost all of his field goals come within 10 feet of the basket. Because of that they can commit very good on ball defense to him to force him into tough shots.

I'm a big stats guy, and you're right on the money with some of these players.

The last month of the season he gonna go crazy watch

Barrett slowly becoming like Josh Smith, putting decent to starter level ppg while attempting shots like a superstar

Dave joeger brought bagley off the bench and the coach corrected the team a lot. Kings front office probably did want bagley to start but the coach saw different. Bagley probably believed he is starter potential. Bagley’s dad didn’t help either. Luke Walton had the same issue with bagley. Bagley had low bbiq.

As a cavs fan I'm not really worried about okoro yet, he's a good defender, and he's like our 7th option offensively

Ayton getting as many shots per game as payne is crazy

Ayton is the classic 20/10 guy since he came to the league

RJ Barrett fooled us all.

or maybe its all of you peoples fault because u all put them in this high expextation but when they dont meet ur expectation u gonna call them any sort of name bust player bad player etc. so dont do that people.

I feel bad for Bagley cause I feel like he got stunted by the Kings.

Ayton way better than anybody on this list but to say he hasn’t got better is not a stretch

Barrel is a more efficient josh smith type of player streaky but good enough to get by

The 2 times I drafted Barrett for my fantasy team, I have been last. The second i drop him, my team starts winning

RJ is so overated and if you wonder why he people say that even tho he averages 20 points every season it’s because thibadeou plays him 40 minutes every game for no reason so by default he will keep shooting

RJ Barrett screams mid

I’m surprised u haven’t talked about Patrick Williams he’s another guy who I feel like has hit a wall

That wall is only an obstacle guys!! It’s beatable and you can go through it!!

Most of these dudes were drafted as what the team “needed” not as the best player available

Dude really tool 13 seconds to make the thumbnail lmao

Yo Andy rude for that “wall” which I thought was going to be “NBA players who keep laying bricks”

I think most people would agree with you on the Ayton take

De'andre Ayton is a tough one. He's never going to put up numbers with Devin Booker trying to score 50 every night.

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honestly tho , yeah i had a feeling Andy would get some flake big time for doing Ayton early like that, but like i said, once CP3 got traded to Phoenix, he made ayton better because of his overall playmaking ability

I think Barrett is actually living up 2 the hype

Most times its not the player its likely the team and sometimes its what's popular in the NBA when a player gets drafted. You have the case of Tyreke Evans who was made to be a SG when he was suited to play PG and thus didnt develop You have a rare case like Markelle Fultz or Dante Exum where injuries just stunt their growth too much or A case like Jahlil Okafor where his game was like Shaq's in the era of "floor spacing" and shooting 3s Most times players dont just stop knowing how to work hard. Its way more complicated

I wish some of these guys csn turn things around in particular RJ and Rui.

Did you make this before Deandre won player of the week?

Ayton is really good, might sound crazy but Phoenix should make him the focal point rather than Booker. He’s shooting 60 plus percent

Like any skill set in any work environment. They have to learn how to do the things around them as much as the thing they do. If they only focus on one skill set, thats all they understand. The balanced player may not get the singular highlight. But the balanced player plays better. So the singular player cannot adjust to the game. They just get boxed in.

Prime Melo was not the worst defender in the league, not even close. Throwing shade with your Hachi comp. Also, if you can't show you belong in 22+ mins a game, then you don't belong.

A massive wall was not the only impediment these players ran into. Not surprisingly their expected and predicted dominance encountered a fortified reality check in the NBA where a lack of speed, shot creativity and the ability to defend is more readily exposed and less tolerated than at the collegiate level. Performance appraisals and the competition are much tougher when BIG money is involved.

Watched Kenny few days before I watch this, he said Wizard are 1 team that's okay for being mediocre.... I'm sure that's hard for Rui as well

Teams and fans need to have more of a what you see is what you get mindset instead of putting these high “potential” expectations on players

Ayton just won WC player of the week... he heard you bro.

Rui Hachimura need improve his DEFENSE & footwork 🔥🔥🔥

The problem with Ayton is he doesn't have a go to move. He can't bully even smaller defenders. Every time I see him in the post, he looks hesitant.

They are showing that the NBA IS THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD. No one is gonna let you score 23ppg just because you was a McDonald’s all American 1st team all American in college that you was ranked top 20 since you was 13 years old or how many views your high school mixtape has. It’s the best playing the best every day. Becoming a above average player is incredibly hard. People you was ranked over pass you up sometimes Ja morant is a 0.0001 exception to go from basically number 100 in high school to the number 2 pick in 2 years and a superstar now he blazed past EVERYONE above him in his class by far save for Zion he just got injuries but he got same talent level. Rj Barrett is a solid player 15-20 ppg kinda guy at least on the team he on now. Julius randle is the leader on the team for now. Rj Barrett was the consensus number 1 pick going into high school Zion took that from him 2 weeks into the season he’s on another level talent wise. And ja morant took it 3 weeks into the season he’s on another level too. Rj is solid but he peaked a lil earlier than those guys and they are so much more talented. But Rj is still a solid player though 15-20 ppg a great addition to any team and plays tough defense.

Ngl I feel like Marvin still has a chance to be an all star or at least a double-double type of player with the young core the Detroit has

james wiseman should be in the list!

Crazy how wild you can talk about a near 20ppg scorer.

RJ neither did Rui hit a wall 😂. Rui don’t even get enough touches and only play for 19-22 minutes. 11 pts 5 rbs 1 AST 2 STLs 1 Blk isn’t bad for someone who doesn’t get the minutes they should. RJ has been doing better than a lot of ballers so I don’t understand. Stop stat watching and watch actual games.

My thing about RJ is he is similar to Wiggins and Barnes. Ranked #1 in his class, is a good starter, but until he is in the right system his full potential will never be on display.

Looks like "the next melo" is a curse for players. People called Parker the next melo and he hit a wall as well

I was getting dragged on this same channel for saying Barrett was on the decline instead of incline and now even Andy changed his tone smh lol

Barrett is stagnant. Every knicks game I’ve watched he forces shots as a very inconsistent jump shooter. But most of all he only goes left! Ball hogging lefty

haha that guy bagley

Ayton can be an all time center if he's the focal point of the Suns or any other team. That dude can easily average 24 & 13.

"efficient ball" be trying to have everyone play the same

a fair few of these players just need to be traded to teams who are better at developing players and can give some of these guys more minutes if thats what they need. I truly believe that if RJ got traded to a different team like the grizzlies, pacers, golden state, celtics, dallas or the bucks and a few other teams we could see his full potential come out cause i just dont think the knicks is the right team for him.

Rui came out of the draft and they were saying he was Draymond cause his defense was so good at zaga ..the melo comparisons are 2k players cause they gave rui melo release lol

RJ another knicks disappointment. Overpaid for a brick layer

No disrespect Andy but majority of the content you been putting out as of late has been negative, let's try something positive and more creative... Just a suggestion from a sub who appreciates your craft.. Peace

Okoro would be great on the mavs not the cavs

The spacing isn't an excuse for Barrett, he just was overhyped, PERIOD. Look at how well Randle and Jalen are doing, Jalen Looking every bit worth of his contract, heck, right now, it's looking like we got him for steal!!

RJ seems like a poor mans Wiggins😂

Eh RJ lacks the burst or quick hops to be one of the best in the game but if he improves on his shooting he can take another step up. He’s def still improving though so it’s not a lost cause. A lot of his weaknesses come from a lack In confidence and immature decision making. I think he can learn a lot from Brunson’s game. If he can become half the player Jaylen is in the post then he’ll have a long career

Bagley with Bey to the mavs. Bagley with Luka could be cool.

Bagley biggest problem is his defense, specially help defense. Ayton, give me him over Bagley all day everyday and they were drafted 1 after the other

I’d like Bagley getting into a winning culture like the Celtics.

Could have shortened the video to just say "development is non linear"

Ayton just knows his role he knows he’s a 2-3 bro that’s a stretch wtaf

It's because these teams draft these particular guys because they were still available pretty sure most of these players aren't even on these teams draft board if these guys get on other teams they might flourish

Okoro was cooked from start a 6”5 sf who can’t shoot labeled as a wing defender lol

....damn I got like 3 of these dudes on my fantasy team

Sometimes it's the organization has a crappy developmental program.

Ayton shoots a very good %, he just needs more touches 2 become an all-star

Rui has every tool to be a great defensive player. Too bad he's on a team that never plays defense.