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@miah8163
@miah8163 Год назад
I absolutely adore the Ally of Justice monster that is allergic to light monsters.
@richardomilos8686
@richardomilos8686 Год назад
Its trying its best.
@molanogan7409
@molanogan7409 Год назад
"It's the reverse of its archetype, and it breaks." -Legacy of the Worthless
@richardomilos8686
@richardomilos8686 Год назад
@@molanogan7409 That train boi always has a way with words.
@AZ-rl7pg
@AZ-rl7pg Год назад
It kinda makes sense tho since the Worms are flip monsters and it auto destroys any face-down monster it attacks, so it'd only self-destruct if your opponent is willing to miss out on the Worm's flip effect. From a lore PoV think of it as a mine sweeper: it's entire purpose is to destroy the Worms before they awaken so once one wakes up (is face-up) it's no longer any use so it shuts down.
@richardomilos8686
@richardomilos8686 Год назад
@@AZ-rl7pg bro please dont try to justify bad card design. Lore should never be a priority
@coyraig8332
@coyraig8332 Год назад
Chronomaly has a "treat as 2 tributes" monster and zero monsters that take 2 tributes
@Straven93
@Straven93 Год назад
It's got the wind effigy issue going on I see
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 Год назад
Not just that. The tribute monsters they do have are rocks. And the 2 tribute thing only works on machines
@earlsaverson5387
@earlsaverson5387 Год назад
Chronomaly was *clearly* meant to be an engine for Monarchs, duh
@alsparkproductions7849
@alsparkproductions7849 Год назад
@@earlsaverson5387 make it happen.
@tobysmith2081
@tobysmith2081 Год назад
@@frankwest5388 Ancient Gear Chronomolies?
@ExplodingBacon
@ExplodingBacon Год назад
Batteryman C is still the wildest to me. It wasn’t a bad design, they just literally didn’t look at the other monsters when reviewing the archetype
@maxinator2869
@maxinator2869 Год назад
Funnily enough: If you can get one batteryman C on the field and change it to machine you can use machine duplication (it will have exactly 500atk) to summon 2 more, who will (as machines) gain you 3 B-man C with each 4500Atk in a 3 card combo.
@TheRealHiboman
@TheRealHiboman Год назад
People always give Batteryman C a hard time. It’s cute! He’s a battery that powers up machines! The problem is that they didn’t lean more into the “electrical power boost” gimmick!
@lefthandedscout9923
@lefthandedscout9923 Год назад
​@@maxinator2869...or it would if batteryman C wasn't worded by a moron, and only buffs them by 1500 when you have three, not 4500 as it would make sense for it to work
@Brawler_1337
@Brawler_1337 11 месяцев назад
@@lefthandedscout9923That can be fixed with DNA Surgery, which makes them ALL machines.
@Brawler_1337
@Brawler_1337 11 месяцев назад
I figured the Machine ATK boost was supposed to be for the archetype’s original boss monster, Super-Electromagnetic Voltech Dragon, but it turns out he’s ALSO Thunder. What the actual fuck.
@lyncario5515
@lyncario5515 Год назад
7:20 Ah, yes, my favorite reason to create anti-synergy, lore. The funniest part is that it's probably the least egregious case of it in the entire game since Nadir's Servant depicts Albaz falling into the Dogmatika Nation.
@mill_ania
@mill_ania Год назад
Card text: "Add a Fallen of Albaz" What actually happen: Maximus pointing at Albaz falling from the sky and saying "lol, he fell off"
@skeletonwar4445
@skeletonwar4445 Год назад
It actually makes even more sense, because the card art depicts Albaz falling from the sky *as Titaniklad* instead of his anime boy form. After the crash, he turns into the small boi Albaz. And the card intends for you to send Titaniklad from the ED to the GY, simulating his fall from the sky to the ground, then adds either a Dogmatika (cause they rush to the scene) or Albaz (cause he shrinks into his boy form) to hand.
@ashikjaman1940
@ashikjaman1940 Год назад
@@skeletonwar4445 basically Branded lore stays goated
@MP-cj6df
@MP-cj6df Год назад
I think the added Albaz was supposed to be summoned on the next turn with Dogmatika Encounter
@AZ-rl7pg
@AZ-rl7pg Год назад
7:36 Looks like someone forgot that there are three sides to the Cubic archetype it has a stall side (Cubic Seeds), burn side (Cubic Kings) and OTK side (Cubic Beasts). Dark Cubic Deity is the combination of those: stalling by being unaffected by monster affects, burn damage from the Cubic Kings, and multi-attack from the Cubic Beasts.
@TonioQuo7
@TonioQuo7 Год назад
🤓
@chaotixthefox
@chaotixthefox Год назад
So which side is Duza?
@idosarts_and_krafts
@idosarts_and_krafts Год назад
Where's the behemoth?
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
@@idosarts_and_krafts OTK
@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor
@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor Год назад
Aren't cubic seeds not just stall but more just the fuel for the whole archetype besides Crimson Nova, since you can get out all three of them to summon Duza and Behemoth, and I feel like cubic seeds have to do with the cubic kings burn.
@DoomToots
@DoomToots Год назад
I'm sure this was mentioned somewhere in the twitter thread but shoutout to the Fur Hire field spell. Skipping your draw phase to just add a Fur Hire monster and also being able to just nuke the board if you have five or more fur hire monsters which in theory is extremely easy, but there's so much wrong with the card. You have to send the field spell to the graveyard to clear the board, clearing the board stops your opponent from taking battle damage, and on top of that you have to DRAW THE FIELD SPELL cause the field spell does not have "fur hire" in it's name. Fandora, Fur Hire Flying Furtress is too long but we can have Training Fur Hire, Fur All Your Training Needs.
@jk844100
@jk844100 Год назад
No, it’s be “Fandora, Flying Fortress Fur Hire”. Gotta keep the dumb pun going
@namity
@namity Год назад
as a fur hire player it does make me furious also i want rafale and wiz to negate and destroy to proc folgo but they just negate, so no folgo proc
@Lyrog
@Lyrog Год назад
I'm still salty at how they made Verte Anaconda - the archetype's best spell locks you into fusions, but every other deck ever can abuse it.
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Год назад
Uh you talking about anaconda right? It locks you out of special summoning in general, unless you talking about branded fusion which anaconda cannot use to summon albion/lubellion because they cannot summon anything afterwards.
@rg03500
@rg03500 Год назад
@@CrnaStrela He's talking about Predapractice, the best spell for the Predaplant archetype that locks you into Fusion monsters, so the deck can't even go into Verte
@stephen4006
@stephen4006 Год назад
Also remember though that anaconda was made in master rule 4. It aged waaaay too well
@tickledeggz
@tickledeggz Год назад
Halq ands verte wernt really printed to be link monsters for their archetype, more like, broken synchro ands fusion support was designed and the it was theres around existing fusion and synchro heavy decks.
@theermac6024
@theermac6024 Год назад
8:07 Making an archetype support card anti-synergistic with the rest of the archetype is 1 thing. Making a card anti-synergistic with itself is a completely different story of "wtf were they thinking?"
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Год назад
_Loooooooore!_
@Talguy21
@Talguy21 Год назад
I posted this as a separate comment before scrolling, but it can probably apply here. You see, Earthbound Immortal Cusillu is actually Big Brain. You can run it into a big enemy beater to tribute a monster for 4k+ potential burn damage!!!!!! Which is more than the 2800 from it direct attacking... once. Sick 2-mat tribute summon with persistent requirements.
@Jack_Rakan
@Jack_Rakan Год назад
@@Talguy21 Since Cusilu doesn't mention it has to be a monster you control that gets tributed, can't you tribute the opponent's monster you just crashed into? So it's a kind of removal on top of burn?
@Talguy21
@Talguy21 Год назад
@@Jack_Rakan Usually if it doesn't specify any monster, it means yours.
@Jack_Rakan
@Jack_Rakan Год назад
@@Talguy21 Well that's lame. If it could tribute the opponent's monster that you just crashed into for the burn, then it could have been an interesting option: go around an opponent's boss monster for the direct attack damage, or crash into them for a removal effect + burn.
@gynobytewolf
@gynobytewolf Год назад
Earthbound Immortal Cusillu's battle protection effect is a carry over from the anime. See, in the anime Earthbound Immortals do not destroy themselves when there is no field spell. Instead, they lose their effect that lets them attack directly and lose their E that prevents them from being attacked. So Cusillu could avoid being destroyed by battle when the field spell was down.
@jackspicer5261
@jackspicer5261 Год назад
I thought they did?….. it wasn’t instant destruction but after the end phase ?
@joanaguayoplanell4912
@joanaguayoplanell4912 Год назад
@@jackspicer5261 yeah. But the effect was used to avoid the monkey from dying after running straight into a damage step Limiter Removal courtesy of Power Tool Dragon.
@jackspicer5261
@jackspicer5261 Год назад
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 oh ok
@valonyaver600
@valonyaver600 Год назад
6:35 the funniest thing is that they made a whole speed duel skill to allow you to fusion summon any roid fusion with it
@MFChanical
@MFChanical Год назад
For Raidraptors, there's the entire rank 3 branch of the deck with the exception of maybe Heel Eagle.
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Год назад
In their defense, fiend eagle exist and the lv 3 can be used to make wise strix, overall the archetype is well synergistic so I can think of 3 cards that at most inconvenient and almost anti-synergy for RR. 1. Necro vulture: it stops you from xyz summoning that doesn't use rank up magic. So you better use this the very last if you even gonna use it because typical blowing up/using arsenal falcon as material to summon ultimate falcon play won't work if you already used necro vulture beforehand. 2. Wild Vulture, how do you even special summon this when all of RR effects special summon lv 4 or lower? 3. Raptor's gust, this card is actually so useful in RR deck because it covers the thing RR desperately needs, spell/trap negation, not quite infernity barrier level but RR already has abudant monster negation if you combine it with PK to make 3 mats Requiem Dragon and usual cyber dragon infinity play with soul shave force. So what's the problem? This card is unsearchable for whatever reason because it doesn't have raidraptor on its name. So when they got new counter trap (Raidrapto's Phantom Knights Claw), I thought we finally got our own searchable infernity barrier, only to be disappointed as it only negates monster effect, something RR can already handle beforehand.
@Lord_Phoenix95
@Lord_Phoenix95 Год назад
I use Heel Eagle. It's a good Free Summon and a great way to keep that one of Nest reccuring.
@michaelgjrjvebs
@michaelgjrjvebs Год назад
Vendreads all have antisynergy with themselves. All the ritual spells are crazy and let you use monsters from your graveyard, deck, etc. for rituals. The effect monsters give the ritual monsters bonus effects when they are used as tributes, BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE TRIBUTED ON THE FIELD.
@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
You're supposed to fill up the graveyard with zombies and then special summon those zombies to the field. Basically, the way you're supposed to play the deck is to use the zombie engine to fill the graveyard with zombies to use as resources. If you're playing the deck right, all of the Vendread non-rituals should be in the graveyard ready to swarm the field or be used as resources for the effects, and the ritual monsters with their ritual spells should be in your hand.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Год назад
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 How exactly would you accomplish these copious special summons? So far it sounds as if Mezuki had to do some pretty heavy lifting.
@FakeHeroFang
@FakeHeroFang Год назад
@@xCorvus7x I think most of them have their own special summoning conditions from the GY. The one that has the best inherited effect, a quick effect monster banish, only revives if your opponent destroys it though lol
@Lord_Phoenix95
@Lord_Phoenix95 Год назад
@@xCorvus7x it's actually pretty easy. The only one in the Archetype that can't summon itself back on your turn, which is the really good one, is Revenants. It requires it to be destroyed by battle. Core is a Banish to Special. Anima Banishes itself to special another. Stirges only has to be sent to the GY and reveal a Vendread. Houndhorde discards a Vendread to special. Scar only Summons itself if you Tribute a monster on the field which the new Ritual Spell let's you do so easily.
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x Год назад
@@Lord_Phoenix95 Aha. So the problem is rather the amount of monsters you need to mill/pitch and how good the inherited effects are. It also sucks that Origin and Revolution are the only Spell/Trap cards with graveyard effects.
@spiritomb108
@spiritomb108 Год назад
From my understanding of effect text: If an Armed Dragon Thunder's effects are negated for whatever reason, its name should be Armed Dragon Thunder on the field since the name change text is not in parenthesis and therefore isn't a constant. Would THAT let you pull out a ADT with the same name?
@H1_R3Z
@H1_R3Z Год назад
I'm, like, 90% sure it would, yes.
@DoctorOaks
@DoctorOaks Год назад
It's because the card doesn't say "This card is always treated as 'X'" that its name returns to normal. Not anything to do with parentheses. However yes, if it has its effect negated some way you'd be able to summon the same card with Blitz.
@MoskalMedia
@MoskalMedia Год назад
Ironically this is the reverse of the problem Harpies have, which is: if any Harpie card gets its effect negated on the field, they are no longer considered "Harpie Lady" but "Harpie Lady Perfumer," "Harpie Lady Oracle," etc, which means Elegant Egotist no longer works with them. Harpies getting their name change negated is devastating, but here in Armed Dragons it...works?
@Merilirem
@Merilirem Год назад
@@MoskalMedia Because the harpies want to be the originals while the thunders are basically just upgraded better versions with their own stuff.
@jarzz3601
@jarzz3601 Год назад
my favourite thing about reverse breaker is that for the downside of dying if there is a light monster it's a drillroid with less atk but has the marginal upside of destroying flip monsters before they flip face up
@hexi9595
@hexi9595 Год назад
Like drill roid
@illdoittomorrow2368
@illdoittomorrow2368 Год назад
Basically mystic swordsman lv2
@Anthintendo
@Anthintendo Год назад
I’m a bit of a Nordic apologist. I won’t for a second try to convince anyone that the deck is GOOD, but it is FUN. Something I realized while labbing the deck is that Tyr, Fenrir, and Jormungardr along with Lights form the backbone of an alternate win condition. Again, it’s NOT good, but it exists: During your Main Phase 2, while you control any Aesir synchro, you can Special Summon Fenrir and Jormungardr to your opponent’s field. How these two work is: They both die without an Aesir on the field. Fenrir, at the start of the Battle Phase, forces all of its controller’s monsters in Defense position to change to Attack Position, AND both players take battle damage from battles involving it. Jormungardr, if it’s changed from face-up Defense position to Attack position, burns its controller for 3000. So here’s where the Tyr and Lights combo comes in. Tyr can protect other Nordics from being attacked, and dies if there aren’t any other Nordic monsters on the field. This isn’t a problem if your opponent controls Fenrir or Jormungardr, since THEY are named Nordics. The other part of this is Lights, which prevents Nordic on the field from being destroyed by battle. So what you do, and not all at once but over a few turns, is: Make your own Aesir Synchro monster and lower your opponent’s LP as much as you can. Then, summon Fenrir (in Attack position) or Fenrir and Jormungardr (in Defense position) to your opponent’s field. If your opponent turns Jormungardr to Attack during their Main Phase or they enter their Battle Phase while they still control Fenrir, they’ll get burned for 3000, and any battle damage they inflict with Fenrir will be dealt back to them. If they wise up, but don’t have a way to get rid of those two (much easier today than it was back when these cards were released, I know), then you can summon Tyr (or any Nordic) and attack into Fenrir yourself to reverse-OTK your opponent. Under Lights, all Nordics can’t be destroyed by battle, so if it is Tyr, you have an invincible wall that’s inflicting 2000 damage to both players every turn. Would you play this “combo” in a normal Nordic deck? No, absolutely not. But you could play a deck specifically designed to make this “reverse OTK” work, if you wanted to. So yeah, Lights ISN’T “Nordic” support: it’s “Tyr-Fenrir-Jormungardr-reverse OTK” support.
@MoskalMedia
@MoskalMedia Год назад
Great analysis! I did not know this, excellent insight here!
@Azrael0088
@Azrael0088 Год назад
another way to otk is with odin and jormungardr- use megingjord on odin(you can set it with trap trick) and use enemy controller on jormungardr for 3k burn and atk with odin for 5k dmg =8k.
@Grimzo1234
@Grimzo1234 Год назад
Literally the beetrooper fusion released in burst of destiny. Its counterproductive to the decks strategy of being a link climbing mid-range deck that can resource loop with strong toolbox by giving them a card that allows your opponent to SUPER POLY YOUR BOARD!! Plus, it's an "end of battle phase" effect that seems pointless when, if you are summoning a 4K body - the opponent should be dead by the time it can trigger. The second wave generally made me super triggered.
@angelobluec
@angelobluec Год назад
I love that when BA was released on Duel Links, they only gave us Malacoda for a payoff. The ideal opener in the strategy in konamis eyes was open: BA, BA, Good and evil, malacoda. Ritual summon malacoda and just pass with no cards in hand.
@st4rm4n3
@st4rm4n3 Год назад
Shout out to Mellow Madonna, an amazing scale 0 that can search any Abyss Actor from the deck and locks you into only Abyss Actor PENDULUM MONSTERS, meaning that if you use Madonna's effect first you can't even summon any of the 2 Links afterwards, just amazing
@uninspiredname2974
@uninspiredname2974 Год назад
To be fair you usually go [any AA] -> link-1 -> madonna -> set other scale and go off Also the archetype has ways to make the link-2 as well before needing madonna's effect (i.e. curtain raiser + any normal summon) so it's not that big a deal; if you can search Superstar and then pend it to search Rise of the Abyss King you get a very funny field nuke They never see it coming
@ryanager8029
@ryanager8029 Год назад
Tbf Mellow Madonna was designed before Links existed. It’s not like Junk Speedster/Connector issues.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
@@ryanager8029 Not true. Mellow Madonna came out DURING Master Rule 4, in 2018. To be fair, the Abyss Actor Link 1 wasn't made yet, but still
@ryanager8029
@ryanager8029 Год назад
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 I meant before the Abyss actor links existed. Also I think she appeared in the arc-V anime, but they change anime cards all the time.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
@@ryanager8029 She didn't - None of the new cards in Legendary Duelists sets are cards that appeared in the anime. This is even made clearer by the fact that Mellow Madonna is a Scale 0, a scale number that only Z-ARC had in the anime
@dejavureal
@dejavureal Год назад
5:35 Shoutout to the stray pube on The Nordic Lights' effect text box.
@Tokumastu1
@Tokumastu1 Год назад
Shoutout to Destiny Hero Departed for just giving the opponent a free body with no draw backs.
@rythvicr3240
@rythvicr3240 7 месяцев назад
And having anti-synergy with D Draw lmao.
@edgelordgilford
@edgelordgilford Год назад
Fun fact about Spygal Misty. She was actually played in Zoodiac Spyral pre-MACR as her alongside Resort, Agent, and Tough were a level 4 engine that helped you deal with your worst matchup being Paleo. Misty being unsearchable obviously still sucked but her effect was good enough that you just played her anyway.
@Straven93
@Straven93 Год назад
Metaphys executioner sort of fits the bill here. Its summoning condition is banishing 5 metaphys cards from your field or *GRAVEYARD* with different names. Which is counter intuitive to how the deck wants to be played, under Marco. So in the best case scenario you can't even summon their boss monster without going -5. Although the deck will recoup most of this with some of their banished effects.
@yurisbest2892
@yurisbest2892 Год назад
you know, my favorite part about starving venom, is that in the anime yuri summon it one time using ultra poly, and brought back the materials to make clear wing, the synchro, however due to rulings in the tcg, if you make starving venom with ultra poly, you cannot bring back the materials because the materials used to make starving venom only count while they are on the field.
@matchanavi
@matchanavi Год назад
I want to give shoutouts to the Synchro retrain of Summoned Skull, Archfiend's Call. It floats into a Summoned Skull from your GY, which would be awesome if it wasn't a level 6 and therefore CANNOT BE SYNCHRO SUMMONED WITH SUMMONED SKULL.
@Straven93
@Straven93 Год назад
Honesty all the retrains have this kind of issue. The archfiend archtype doesn't have a searchable fusion spell, an in-arctype tuner, or a searchable ritual spell. And the only one the deck can summon with questionable ease is the one that protects itself from destruction. That and all the retrains only trigger their floating effect off opponents card effects. A restriction none of the other floaters have
@glitchyimpasta
@glitchyimpasta Год назад
Destruction Sword Memories can summon Buster Blader, the Destruction Swordmaster from the deck. The trap says that it can summon from the deck "Buster Blader" monsters. Key term here "monsters". If it was just "Buster Blader", then Buster Blader, the Destruction Swordmaster could not be summoned.
@cursedtg
@cursedtg Год назад
As someone who constantly played ghostricks before links came out, nekomusume was one of the better cards i ran during the rank 4 spam era. I've had countless game won because my opponent couldn't use his normal summon to go into some rank 4 to break my board, you usually have a ghostrick xyz face up because they dont have the flip face down effect and if you get ghostrick nights on the field they literally couldnt do anything. Not to mention its one of the few ghostricks level 2s you had at the time if you wanted to summon socuteboss. Also a lot of the trap cards would flip your cards up during your opponents turn so the negative of having to have the card face up doesn't really apply because you were going to have to flip it up regardless.
@ThagomizerZ
@ThagomizerZ Год назад
I think a decent thread would be Archtype cards that were expensive because it was new support and the Archtype was meta relevant, but the card was mediocre. This is specific to when Archetypes were often released across 2 (usually 3) main sets. I'm thinking cards like Mermail Abyssleed or Inzektor Exa-Stag. Have to think of a few more examples.
@samurexatlas7373
@samurexatlas7373 Год назад
2:15 To be frank Connector was released in a Link VRains pack before Speeder got made, so hold ya gahtdayum horses, he had reason.
@KamiKagutsuchi
@KamiKagutsuchi Год назад
As a Cyber Dragon fan, Cyber Ouroboros will misstime if used as fusion material with Overload Fusion for Chimeratech Overdragon, which is literally how it was used in the anime.
@afeathereddinosaur
@afeathereddinosaur Год назад
Performapals. What is the focus of the archetype even? Pendulum summoning? Battle tricks? Extra deck summoning
@digiing1992
@digiing1992 Год назад
Tbf, Galaxy Satellite Dragon was never supposed to support Kaito but Mizael, the other Galaxy Eyes user from ZeXal. Same goes for the LV8 Chaos Dragons.
@skyknighteman7022
@skyknighteman7022 Год назад
I'd like to add Rinyan, Lightsworn Rogue. On flip it returns a Lightsworn from your graveyard to the deck and draws you a card. Just what the deck focused on sending cards to the graveyard to summon their big boss needed, a way to not deck out! /s
@samurexatlas7373
@samurexatlas7373 Год назад
6:06 Ah yes, because as we all know Kite was the seventh Barian Emperor with 107. Boy I sure do love the heartfelt duel where Kite duels Kite to figure out who the better Kite is. *IF IT WASN'T CLEAR THIS IS TACHYON SUPPORT NOT PHOTON SUPPORT FUCK OFF!!!*
@SproingBoing
@SproingBoing Год назад
Twilightsworn almost seem tailor made for this kind of Twitter thread, because out of their 5 monsters that were printed all the way back in 2017 you don't really see any of them outside of some casual experimentation or Chaos jank
@MrGshinobi
@MrGshinobi Год назад
7:34 ok i can explain this one. In the DSOD movie the character that plays cubics named Aigami uses the cubic stall strategy to burn and lock the opponent out of the game, however at the end of the movie Aigami becomes possesed by the evil spirit inside the millenium ring and turns into a monster that now changes his duel strategy to a hyper aggresive one creating Crimson Nova as well as the fusion crimson nova trinity, so Crimson nova feels like an outsider to its archetype's playstyle...because it's meant to.
@windmirror7083
@windmirror7083 Год назад
Also Prologue GY effect only protect Destruction Sword cards in a deck where your end board is just Buster Dragon and fusion Buster Blader....2 monsters who are not Destruction Sword cards by name. It can protect the link... but you rather that die than have it sitting on the field being a target to OTK through
@Dsr8001
@Dsr8001 Год назад
Shoutout to 'Centrefrog'. A frog that cannot be used to xyz summon is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. Not to mention the weird ojama shit where it can lock out opponent monster zones (?). I just have no idea why it exists, and that sucks, because it's a really cool looking frog
@mattr791
@mattr791 Год назад
centerfrog is very funny with level resist wall crash a lv4 level resist wall summon 2 centerfrog then mp2 snatch steal your opponents entire board
@Rhino-n-Chips
@Rhino-n-Chips Год назад
I do kinda love that Spygal doesn't synergize with her archetype specifically because she's a traitor in the lore.
@jk844100
@jk844100 Год назад
I’d rather have a playable card than lore
@randomprotag9329
@randomprotag9329 Год назад
@@jk844100 I kinda like the pun but can pun names come with "this card is always treated as X". so that its actually a part of the archetype
@MoskalMedia
@MoskalMedia Год назад
How does Spygal betray the SPYRALs in the lore?
@jk844100
@jk844100 Год назад
@@MoskalMedia she’s a double agent. In the art of Spyral Mission: Recapture you can see Super Agent holding what is presumably a hard drive with important information; Tough and SA look pretty happy about it but Misty has a very shady expression looking at the hard drive. There’s some written lore too from a Magazines that explains it a bit more. You can just look up the Spyral lore if you’re interested.
@MoskalMedia
@MoskalMedia Год назад
@@jk844100 Got it! I didn't know this, thank you!
@chaotixthefox
@chaotixthefox Год назад
How the hell did no one mention Royal Knight of the Ice Barrier? DID RATA TEACH US NOTHING!?
@mageius
@mageius Год назад
Junk connector was printed when you couldn't summon extra deck monsters to Maine monster songs without a link arrow pointing to them. Although I wish that speeder read "for the rest of the turn after you activate this ability you can only Synchro summon.". But I guess it would be a little too good with a Link and Synchro Synchron strategy for Konami.
@GodzillaFreak
@GodzillaFreak Год назад
The metalfoes is well designed. It’s 9 so you are motivated to use its self summoning effect which isn’t even bad
@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong
I heard the name heavymetalfoes, and immediately wanted to get into metalfoes. Imagine the fucking disappointment when I learned it was NOT, in fact; an archetype based on heavy metal music. :,(
@thiccupcake
@thiccupcake 7 месяцев назад
​@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong if you are interested in kitchen utensils you might still like it
@user-dy7kl6kl1k
@user-dy7kl6kl1k Год назад
2:34 “Duos Megistius” where does the extra i come from?
@vincevodka9679
@vincevodka9679 Год назад
Shoutouts to Guardian Eatos, who does not have anti-synergy with Guardians because they were never meant to synergize with themselves, but there is no synergy with her equip spell Celestial Sword - Eatos. Eatos can send a equip spell that was equipped to her to banish up to 3 monsters to on grave to gain Atk. Celestial Sword has the effect that, when it is send to grave, it gives the monster that was equipped to it more Atk for each banish monster. The catch? The effect of the spell is a "When" and not "If" Which means that Eatos cannot send her Sword to gain more atk by her effect and her Sword's effect because the sword will miss the timing. The one time Guardians get a decent monster that can actually use the specific equip spell just to not synergize at all, despite that it should. Gotta love game mechanics.
@102094alex
@102094alex Год назад
vanisher is like one of the best one ofs in metalfoes while it would be better at level 7 or less, everything else about it is amazing.
@phillytothej4001
@phillytothej4001 Год назад
Genuinely, for the first time ever I left a stream out of pure rage. MBT saying the predaplant archetype doesn't synergize with Starving Venom is one of the worst takes of all time. Not only do they possess a way to search super poly, they have one built into the archetype and if your opponent has a monster with a predator counter (that makes it dark) . Plus multiple ways to give cards predator counters is SOMEHOW not good in the archetype. But Starving Venemy dragon that requires 3 dark pendulum monsters was released at a time when predaplant had 1 pendulum monster that was unplayable. And makes Venemy counters that lowers the attack of EVERYTHING that isn't a dark dragon exactly is better in the deck. Now I'm upset again. Swing and a miss on this one Joseph
@Bass_Mage
@Bass_Mage Год назад
But he's not wrong, Starving Venom just does not work with what Predas are trying to do, and he even says why. The damn dragon WANTS monsters to be Level 5 or higher, while the plants (outside of Verte) WANTS monsters to have counters and be reduced to Level 1 to negate effects. I'm failing to understand how the fact that he points out the clashing goals pisses you off so much. I know that what you're referencing with Venemy isn't part of this video, so I won't sit here and comment on that, but he isn't wrong about Starving Venom not synergizing with its foster archetype.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
@@Bass_Mage That also being said, literally no sane person uses the effect steal of Starving Venom. it's always the ATK gain and the nuke that are being used, and neither of them conflict with Predaps
@simpltonn6162
@simpltonn6162 Год назад
Shout outs to Red-Eyes Archfiend of Lightning. Archfiend of Lighting is supposed to be used to fusion summon Archfiend Black Skull Dragon but for some reason Black Skull specifically states it needs a Archfiend Normal monster and Gemini's don't count as normal monsters in the deck. so the only way you can summon Black Skull Dragon with Red-Eyes Fusion is to use Vanilla Summon Skull.
@notimportant493
@notimportant493 Год назад
Unironically all the channeler in Charmer. A deck that typically likes playing multi-attributes with a main deck of monsters of every attribute has now locked it's self into a single attribute.
@EntroVirical_Engima
@EntroVirical_Engima 6 месяцев назад
The Buster Blader stuff does actually work, swordmaster has buster blader in the name and memories wants a buster blader monster
@MrLednard
@MrLednard Год назад
Cards with Ice Counters are a good example. It's bad and forgotten by everyone, I know. But you get Snowman Creator and Ice Master, one put Ice counter on the opponent's monsters when summoned and can pop a card. The other can put Ice counters and tribute itself to pop all cards with Ice counters. But you also get Snowdust Dragon, which can be Summoned by removing 4 Ice Counters on the field and prevents attacks and changing battle position, which just puts a 2800 beater on the field and prevents attacks... When you could just pop cards. In an era where Xyz and Synchro were already a thing, mind you, so just stunning ressources is not good. But then you get Snow Dragon, who puts Tokens on EVERYONE when it dies by battle. So when it dies, you also fuck your own monsters. And then you get the last 2 monsters: Snowdust Giant and Cold Enchanter, whom both benefits from YOUR monsters having Ice Counters. One because he gains 300 ATK for each Ice counter, the other one because your opponent's monsters lose 200 for each Ice counter. But even still, one creates Ice Token by revealing the cards in your hand, meaning the more cards you have the better. And the other one needs you to discard your own cards, so even those two cards who seems to have an okay synergy just shoot at each other's legs.
@ShiroiKiba
@ShiroiKiba Год назад
Friendly reminder that while you have Buster Dragon on field, Alvaz can fuse with your opponent's whole field for Alba-Lenatus
@MrPikminmaster
@MrPikminmaster Год назад
Another example is machina metalcruncher's summoning condition requiring no face-up cards combined with the fact there are 2 mediocre machina continuous spells.
@wariggs16
@wariggs16 Год назад
I feel like Junk Connector should be given a bit of a break. It was printed during the time of MR4 pre 4/20 revision. It was basically good arrows for junk monsters.
@mateusrp1994
@mateusrp1994 Год назад
It was released a few weeks after Halq in Japan, so it already came out obsolete. Its even worse for the TCG because Junk Connector came out shortly afterwards here, but Halq wouldn't be imported until MR4 was already over, so the deck spent 2 years waiting for the link that actually made it playable, only for it to come out when it was no longer necessary.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
@@mateusrp1994 As insult to injury, it was released alongside Junk Speeder, who became the de facto win con for Synchrons after MR4 was over
@Vahnyu
@Vahnyu Год назад
Red-eyes The whole thing Shout out to Lord of the Red being basically entirely unsearchable by Black Metal Dragon
@Dw7freak
@Dw7freak Год назад
Azure-Eyes Silver Dragon is Blue-Eyes support that lets you reborn your normal dragons during your standby phase, including Dragon Spirit of White since it's a normal monster in the GY. It also applies a lingering effect to itself and all other dragons on your field when summoned that prevents targeting and destroying them for the current turn and the next, which makes it really good to summon off Spirit Dragon. The problem? It's not named "Blue-Eyes" so it doesn't benefit from the support and requires a normal non-tuner to legit synchro summon, which means you can only synchro summon it in a Blue-Eyes deck using the vanilla BEWD.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
You CAN cheat it out using Blue-Eyes Spirit Dragon and gain the blanket protection that way
@Dw7freak
@Dw7freak Год назад
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 That's what I meant. You can cheat it out with Spirit Dragon, since Spirit Dragon just summons a Light synchro, and it won't pop during the end phase because of its protection. What I meant is that because its name isn't "Blue-Eyes", it can't benefit from support like The Ultimate Creature of Destruction.
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
@@Dw7freak Then again, you don't play Ultimate Creature of Destruction anyway, no?
@Dw7freak
@Dw7freak Год назад
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Just an example of a card that supports "Blue-Eyes monster".
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
@@Dw7freak Even then, it's basically the worst one Blue-Eyes could use anyway.
@jorionrange8336
@jorionrange8336 8 месяцев назад
Nadir's Servant is literally the bane of my whole existence unless I'm playing Dogmatika.
@Soupliss
@Soupliss Год назад
Swordsoul Auspice Chunjun is not very good in Swordsoul but it’s a funny handtrap in Lair of Darkness
@Timeater
@Timeater Год назад
My candidate is the quick-play spell Strike of the Monarchs. To Tribute Summon a Monarch is difficult enough to tribute it in order to activate the effect of this card. Yes, you get a negate, you draw a card and you can banish it from the GY to change the attribute of your monsters (nobody cares about this effect) but you loose the monster that would had kept in effect Domain of the Monarch and Monarchs Erupt, for example.
@RSanchez111
@RSanchez111 Год назад
Metalfoes Vanisher has so much synergy with Metalfoes. Destroy Parametalfoes Melcaster and Raremetalfoes Bismugear with Vanisher's effect and you proc Bismugear's search, bring Bismugear back into your hand using Melcaster's effect, and you have fusion materials for Parametalfoes Fusion or even regular Metalfoes Fusion. Summon Vanisher using Metalfoes Counter and you can banish a monster in your opponent's field or GY. If you activate Counter after a monster you control is destroyed by battle then your opponent can't activate Ash or most negates. Summon Vanisher using Metalfoes Mithrilium's floating effect and you can banish too, with the same "protection" against negates if it happens in the damage step. Vanisher has sooooo much synergy with Metalfoes that I can't imagine playing Metalfoes without it.
@ethanbryan3748
@ethanbryan3748 Год назад
8:08 Ccapac Apu is arguably worse, as its Unique effect is a carbon copy of Flame wingman's burn effect WHEN IT CAN ALREADY ATTACK DIRECTLY
@voltrya6844
@voltrya6844 Год назад
The only real reason you'd use Arc Light in Herald is to send with Diviner, get search and get perfect level for Herald of Perfection.
@matthewryder343
@matthewryder343 Год назад
Nekomusume is meant to be paired with Ghostrick Night which also requires a face up Ghostrick on the field, although it would be 100% better if it worked on all monsters instead of just level 4 and higher. So have Nekomusume and Angel Of Mischief on your board remain face up and you still have 3 spots on the field for other possible face down Ghostricks.
@rosewarrior706
@rosewarrior706 Год назад
Can't forget the worst offender being naturia, they have several cards that proc WHEN sent to the GY... except MOST NATURIA SEND AS COST!
@colaocha1115
@colaocha1115 Год назад
Simorgh Bird of Perfection causing the other simorghs to miss timing if activated chain link 2 or higher, which okay you can't use it to chainblock here. BUT under OCG SECOG you can't have it be chain link 1 if you want to activate the on summon effect of the winged beast that triggered Perfection.
@aleksandarpocanic9513
@aleksandarpocanic9513 Год назад
Naturia molcricket in a deck focusing on Naturia fruitfly protecting Naturia bamboo shoot
@EthanKironus8067
@EthanKironus8067 4 месяца назад
2:22 - Metalfoes Vanisher isn't very fair, because literally the only thing counting against it is the inability to Pendulum Summon it and while that bites it's still way more playable than most of the others on this list.
@Jyxero
@Jyxero Год назад
Aroma Jar is a flip monster that can't be destroyed by battle and gets 500 LP at the end phase... But it's a goddamn rock on a plant deck, and Blessed winds can't put it back online cause neither can be shuffled back from gy to deck since it's a rock, or be revived cause both effects works if it was flipped Shout-out to Tindangles who can put back (any, literally any other is better) Jar
@ragedrock5945
@ragedrock5945 Год назад
Galaxy Satellite Dragon was designed as Tachyon support specifically (You can tell by the art, which looks similar to Tachyon dragon and the effect which boosts attack based on that monsters number, Tachyon is number 107 which gives it a boost of 10,700) which utilises lots of dragons (like Galactic Spiral Dragon and Nebula Dragon) it wasn't actually meant as Photon support, in the deck it's actually meant to be used in it's pretty good, it's just that the Tachyon deck is awful.
@xatuyou8045
@xatuyou8045 9 месяцев назад
Cards for black feathers would be an awesome blackwing card...except they put a special summon restriction on it.
@poro9084
@poro9084 Год назад
madolche is off meta deck, rogue, but i always wondered.. their main point are XYZ monsters which need to set up GY to use their other effects - and then there is bunch of trap cards which are really hard to resolve, because you set up GY for madolche tiramisu or sistart
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
The intent was there - sent a few Madolches to graveyard, then remove them from there to resolve effects and get itno your Xyz, after which your traps are live. It's just that Madolche didn't stick with it for long and decided to just go fully on the Xyz aspect
@DarkJ1425
@DarkJ1425 Год назад
5:32 “WAIT!!! IS THAT A LIGHT MON-“ *Dies*
@Talguy21
@Talguy21 Год назад
I tried finding a way to bring my archetype into this, but as it turns out, Mayakashi only has anti-synergy with MOST OTHER ARCHETYPES and not itself. Closest I found was Ghost Meets Girl - A Mayakashi's Manuscript, which lets you Special a Zombie with the same attribute as a Zombie Synchro you control from GY or Banished... in an archetype that has extremely variable attributes. At least it's probably good in Shiranui or something.
@HolyGiraffeMapleStory
@HolyGiraffeMapleStory Год назад
I'm a bit sad my take wasn't included, I really thought "Freki the Runick Fangs" - although not printed yet - is a good card to include on the list.
@kucukyilmert
@kucukyilmert Год назад
what is the problem with freki?
@alisethera9349
@alisethera9349 Год назад
Freki has been out for like 2 weeks now.
@MiguelitoJimz
@MiguelitoJimz Год назад
@@kucukyilmert It's a battle focused card... in an archetype about skipping your battle phase.
@dakotamcintire7419
@dakotamcintire7419 Год назад
The star bellied sneetch comment killed me XD thank you for the doctor Seuss reference
@bloodytyran9245
@bloodytyran9245 Год назад
The reason why Subterror Guru came to be was that the original Subterror boss monster was a link monster… in a flip archetype
@kokorikopi
@kokorikopi Год назад
Re: Thunder Armed Dragon: It exists because targeting a lv7, summoning the OG Lv7, and tributing it for OG lv10 is stronger than anything Thunder Lv10 will ever do in its entire life. I keep harping on this, but it's true; Thunder Lv10 is one of the worst bosses ever printed, while OG Lv10, while certainly not great, is a dragon that discards other dragons, thus making it synergize with the other ADTs.
@ManuelRiccobono
@ManuelRiccobono Год назад
3:21 what do you mean with “it does not work with the fusion”? It targets a buster blader monster, and the fusion is a buster blader monster…
@kichiroumitsurugi4363
@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Год назад
He assumed that the Fusion also shuts off your own Dragons, including Protector Whelp
@taild_fox7889
@taild_fox7889 Год назад
i like subterrors but their effect is in order to special summon the big ones you must control no face up monsters so their link monster is literally useless
@SheruMuko
@SheruMuko Год назад
Well at least Starving Venom is easy to bring out with your opponent’s cards in Predaplants. If you don’t place a counter on a card then you can use Starving Venom. Not every card needs a counter. You can also place the counter on it after you summon Starving Venom.
@moreplz
@moreplz 5 месяцев назад
So hear me out Nekomusume is actually a pretty good floodgate and it works well with ghostrick night which also requires a face up ghostrick but I will never understand why they would give doll a mandatory flip all your monsters face down during the END PHASE! so you cant even flip one of them back up before the end phase and ruining whatever lock you might have had with night and Nekomusume.
@ClovissenpaiDotR
@ClovissenpaiDotR Год назад
This video is actually a very good study case about how yugioh have NO IDEA what the f theyre doing with card designs. Some of these are actually just shocking
@apacheking7256
@apacheking7256 Год назад
buster blade: can't be out of contention for best legacy rogue deck when even i don't understand the correlation of my own legacy support 🦍💯
@ArtixRednik
@ArtixRednik Год назад
I do not understand how I missed the star-bellied sneech joke
@SheruMuko
@SheruMuko Год назад
Malacoda is actual able to activate the effects of the Burning Abyss monsters at quick effect speed while weakening your opponent’s monsters. It may not be powerful due to it’s summoning condition but it is still somewhat decent.
@Tattybirch96
@Tattybirch96 Год назад
Weird idea but what about doing a tournament with fixed cards? Stuff like the fabled cards that send now discard. I don't think there's much to this idea but we as a community are so starved for original ideas that this might make for a good video.
@jcplays5831
@jcplays5831 7 месяцев назад
Something that is so funny to me about salamangreat is that one of their best monsters printed, salamangreat almiraj, is completely useless for their game plan. In salamangreat why would you ever use almiraj when balelynx is right there
@melcasucre2971
@melcasucre2971 Год назад
At first Bismugear was the only effect monster scale and was meant to be off level because of that, so vanisher being 9 was logic Bu they also printed melcaster, which is a effect monster but also a 7 so it doesn't make sence Luckyly the cards still works very well with the rest of the archetype and doesn't clash at all
@nathanielbass771
@nathanielbass771 2 месяца назад
"Red-Eyes Fusion" ... not only is this card ridiculously broken... it's also... ridiculously broken. This card: can not be activated if you have summoned ANYTHING that turn, is vulnerable to ash-blossom unless the cards you need are in your hand and, to top it all off, if the EFFECT is negated, the card's extraneous effect of preventing any and all summons BY YOU for that turn... remains in effect. Don't get me wrong, there are some absolutely broken red-eyes cards, but the fact that a single card can cripple your entire deck if ANYTHING goes wrong with it...yeah. Blue-eyes both has better boss monsters AND its cards don't cripple you XD Kaiba really hates that card.
@swarrior67
@swarrior67 Год назад
Sadly the Iron Chains didn't appeared. Sadge.
@doubl2480
@doubl2480 Год назад
Oh yeah I remember this one. The synchro was level 7 in the anime to be summonable from Repairman + Coil, right?
@swarrior67
@swarrior67 Год назад
@@doubl2480 That and also the Gimmick of the Archetype it's to Mill or Burn the opponent everytime you made Battle Damage. Oh let's give them a Continous Magic Card that will Mill cards equal to the number of Iron chain monsters in the field, only if you didn't conduct your BATTLE PHASE.
@manjackson2772
@manjackson2772 Год назад
@@doubl2480 Nope, they made Coil a level 4 and tuned it with Blaster. It was even less synergetic with Repairman cause at least in the real game you only need one level of modulation to get there
@ut7746
@ut7746 Год назад
Nadir servant search Albaz so that you can summon him during opponent turn with Dogmatika Encounter
@arctic227
@arctic227 Год назад
2 be fair for galaxy satellite dragon, there are galaxy cards that either can't be played in galaxy photon decks or don't help either, tomahawk can't be played either because it is rank 7, and galaxy photon focuses on rank 4 and 8, with exceptions for 9 due to xyz shenanigans
@jeremyadkins9665
@jeremyadkins9665 Год назад
Not an archetype, but Wind Effigy is notorious among the double tribute monsters (monsters that are treated as two tributes for a tribute summon), for being one for WIND Normal monsters... but with NO WIND NORMAL MONSTERS THAT CAN USE IT. They literally had to print an effect monster with an effect that says "this is treated as a Normal Monster in hand", because of it.
@antoniolopez1135
@antoniolopez1135 6 месяцев назад
sweetroom maid... WEVE BEEN WANTING THE CHAMBERS DRAGON CARD FOR 3 YEARS AND THIS IS THE NEW SUPPORT WE GET?!?!?!? IT CANT EVEN BE SEARCHED WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK KONAMI
@jaydenliberty9536
@jaydenliberty9536 Год назад
Since I don’t see anyone else defending it, I’ll say it now: Ghostrick Nekomusume is anti-synergy with its archetype because it’s pro-synergy with Angel of Mischief specifically. Namely because having 1 face up card turns off a lot of the stun tools that Nekomusume covers for Now, is that a good idea even remotely? No. But at least someone read part of the archetype
@r3zaful
@r3zaful Год назад
Nekomusume+revival : nekomusume lock down turn 1
@jaydenliberty9536
@jaydenliberty9536 9 месяцев назад
@@r3zafulsee, someone gets it. This card isn’t totally pointless
@absoul112
@absoul112 9 месяцев назад
I always laugh at the Buster Blader part because the deck has problems, but he doesn’t fully touch on them.
@awildkuribohappears5834
@awildkuribohappears5834 3 месяца назад
Id like to say that you can use nekomusume with the link and go round or something similar. Its still bad, but not useless now
@starfishturtle9963
@starfishturtle9963 Год назад
I read Fukyu as Fu-kyu until I realized it was supposed to be Fuk-yu
@RoyFokker93
@RoyFokker93 Год назад
0:33 Joseph´s mision in life is to butcher every card name, even the ones you think is imposible to.
@jamesbrincefield9879
@jamesbrincefield9879 Год назад
Spygal and Charming Resort Staff make me sad. Same with Utility Wire and that other one but at least the former has some…utility. They could have been literally anything else. Spyral was already broken, it’s not like they needed anything amazing. It just simply needed to not suck. Spyral is still ridiculously good in 2022, especially considering their age, but they still don’t have any one-card combos unless I’m just not thinking of something. If they had one more Super Agent-esque card I feel like they would be a solid Tier 1.5. I would suck a dick for a Spyral name that discards for cost to special summon itself or an in-archetype card in the same vein as World Wand or the Phantom Knights cards or something like that. I’m terrible at theorizing about what archetypes need to be good. The deck just feels way too reliant on resolving Magicians’ Souls in order to work.
@andrejv.2834
@andrejv.2834 Год назад
Well the deck is seeing success in the ocg again as the 3rd most represented, so that's something at least But they have 0 shot of being good here as long as master plan is banned
@jamesbrincefield9879
@jamesbrincefield9879 Год назад
@@andrejv.2834 I should have clarified. When I was referring to it being good I was talking about Master Duel. I imagine Master Plan being banned in the TCG makes the deck completely unplayable.
@andrejv.2834
@andrejv.2834 Год назад
@@jamesbrincefield9879 yeah basically, every spyral card could be at 3 and they still wouldn't be meta or maybe even rogue without master plan
@pamoon_
@pamoon_ Год назад
Cubics Aka Crimson Nova.dek with a bunch of garnets to summon a box with eyes that can OTK and burn everyone for 3K
@kallax7172
@kallax7172 Год назад
I play a lot of the dragon ball super tcg and the legacy support for so many decks can’t be played in those decks. It baffles me how often it happened.
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